Celtic Banter Archive March 06 2018

 

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06 Mar 2018 23:22:26
Just seen Fiorentina have extended the contract of Astori, the wages going to his family. Class.

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06 Mar 2018 23:45:30
A tremendous thing to do football was the man's passion and his team will look after his family the way he would have well done fc forintina.

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07 Mar 2018 01:20:12
Salah at Liverpool donated 500k to a bone marrow unit in Egypt. You would hope some young pampered millionaire a55 holes might learn something.

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06 Mar 2018 23:02:24
Ed just a thought for April 15th semi final do you think Celtic fans will have a tribute to the Hillsborough disaster as its the anniversary think it would be a nice touch as there has always been an affinity and the cities are similar.

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{Ed007's Note - It would be a nice gesture that, Sammy.}

06 Mar 2018 23:37:39
I think so ed my grandad was a big Liverpool fan he was heartbroken when it happened it was on my birthday but the next month we watched our teams win the Scottish and fa cup finals v are rivals everton and rangers I'll never forget it wee Joe Miller and what an assist lol.

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07 Mar 2018 09:31:01
Watch it! don't want the onion bears doing a Tifo.

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07 Mar 2018 10:21:02
I remember watching it all unfold live on the telly, it was my 13th birthday, i can distinctly remember asking my Granny what was going on here and how the fans are all lying about the pitch. She was in tears and i knew then that it was very bad, liverpool in the 70s and 80s were most Scottish football fans 2nd team then, the core of their great teams were Scottish. A tribute would be a nice idea.

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07 Mar 2018 10:34:23
Am sure the huns will join in you'll never walk alone in a tribute. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

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08 Mar 2018 00:47:44
I don't think so, simply another football jurisdiction. I think we should remember our own heritage first and have a day to commemorate " The Great. Hunger " when millions of Irish were displaced and many died and England took boats loads of food which was enough to feed the Irish, every week from our Ports.

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06 Mar 2018 22:15:03
Just a thought for the game on Sunday it the lad John plays at LB for them I think rodgers should tell dembele to move towards him if KT has the ball at LB for the likes of rogic and Forrest to play of because dembele outmuscles him everytime it's one of their week spots that teams haven't went for.

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06 Mar 2018 22:22:08
Isn't John Injured? Been playing Halliday there as an emergency LB. Not sure on the fitness of the grass Wallace (MW) Either way Forrest will torment whoever plays there.

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06 Mar 2018 22:41:57
Think John will play and he's a weakness if we play it right when he's defending and going forward.

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06 Mar 2018 22:44:29
Wallace played in the 1-1 draw against St Mirren. John may be ready as well.

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08 Mar 2018 00:50:31
I am sure Brendan has identified area where he can attack Rangers .
B R may just be as good as any of us identifying how to approach the game and if he isn't he has many coaches to help him.

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06 Mar 2018 18:59:29
I''m prepared and indeed hoping to be shot down given my glass as you know is always half empty rather than half full. As someone posted last night which I'm accepting as fact we've taken 38 points from the last 18 games they've taken 40 from last 19. They've also scored 3 goals more than us. While that's unbelievable given the financial disparity between both clubs I think the gap has closed and given we'd be as well playing with no goalkeeper than DDV which is my biggest concern I'm not sure the game is the stick on certainty we all think. Play our best and we'll win but it depends which Celtic turns up. Help me Ed!

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{Ed007's Note - How many goals have they conceded compared to us? We've only conceded ONE more goal than we had at the same stage of the league season last year. If you're going to compare things like that you need to do it over the same amount of games so how many points have we taken in our last 19 matches or them in their last 18?
BTW the figures you've posted give us an average of 2.111 points per game and theirs is 2.105 so we're doing better than them and that should put your mind at rest.
I hope that helps :-D

06 Mar 2018 19:27:00
Like it or not Europe is a big distraction, in terms of games played this season we must be 12-14 competitive games more, we've had serious injury problems, probably down to that. This season was never going to top last season. We will win the league by a minimum of 15 points I think. We will beat them in all 3 remaining games I've no doubts about it, all this talk of a title race is just that, talk, and it will do nothing but make our bhoys play better.

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06 Mar 2018 19:21:35
Thanks Ed I feel better now. Add counselling to your list of job titles and talents! It’s one of the spiritual works of mercy to Counsel the Doubtful. πŸ‘ ☘️ jfp.

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{Ed007's Note - I do my best to keep all of you on the path of the righteous man. :)

06 Mar 2018 19:35:34
Although I concede they are much more consistent under 'Muttley', than they have been in the SPL since they were formed; there is still a huge gulf in class and ability - player by player (Dorus apart? ) .
We have only been beaten in the league twice, in two seasons and although we have not reached the amazing standards of performance of last term, we have had many injury and form issues to contend with, that none of our rivals could live with - while still staying ahead of the pack, winning a cup and in another semi final of the SC.
The team have also been relieved of European pressures, plus Dembele finding his scoring touch again and with Griffiths, Roberts and Armstrong still to return, we are not in such a bad position at all.

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06 Mar 2018 19:56:45
They are a far better unit now than they where in the new year game but that’s just makes it even better when we beat them

Hope is a cruel cruel thing πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜­.

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06 Mar 2018 20:06:02
They have recently shipped goals to Ayr, Falkirk and Hamilton (3) . They have improved under Murty but I very relaxed about Sunday and expect a straightforward victory.

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06 Mar 2018 20:12:49
Last night UJ posted that Rangers have won more points under Murty than any other team in the league. However, when I started calculating the points won by both teams since the 26th of October, both teams had won 34 points each.

At the end of the day, it does not matter how many points a team has won in 18-19 games. What matters is how many points a team earns over and entire season and at the moment we are 9 ahead.

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06 Mar 2018 21:02:46
6 points ahead with a game in hand RAW.

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06 Mar 2018 21:11:00
@JFP1888 - I stand corrected :D.

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06 Mar 2018 21:16:09
Any manager following Pedro was bound to be an improvement, whoever it was could hardly fail
I think though that you have to put Sevco's improvement into context, scoring 6 against Ayr and 4 against Falkirk is okay but it hardly makes them Barcelona. The fact that they conceded goals to these teams probably says more about them. Could you imagine the headlines if we gave away goals against that level of opposition.
Celtic could lose the game on Sunday, any team can lose a football match against another team. That doesn't alter the fact though that we have better players in virtually every position. The league table doesn't lie. We are a game in hand away from a 9 point lead, if we win on Sunday make that 12, it's hardly a crisis.
I wouldn't swap our squad of players for theirs, as long as it stays that way I'll be happy.

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06 Mar 2018 21:21:22
Yes we are 9 ahead but since Murty took over Rangers have accumulated more points than we have. I see all the posts saying this is going to be easy but they have better form over the last 12 games. I think this will be close.

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06 Mar 2018 21:27:40
@Johnnymac - Murty has not got more points than Rodgers since he took over. Here are the stats from 26th October, which is the date he took over:

Rangers 3 - 0 Aberdeen
Celtic 0 - 0 Rangers
Rangers 2 - 0 Motherwell
Kilmarnock 2 - 1 Rangers
Rangers 1 - 3 St Johnstone
Hibernian 1 - 2 Rangers
Rangers 2 - 1 Ross County
Aberdeen 1 - 2 Rangers
Ross County 1 - 2 Rangers
Rangers 2 - 0 Aberdeen
St Johnstone 1 - 4 Rangers
Rangers 2 - 0 Hearts
Hamilton Academical 3 - 5 Rangers
Partick Thistle 0 - 2 Rangers
Rangers 1 - 2 Hibernian

34 points

Motherwell 0 - 2 Celtic
Motherwell 1 - 1 Celtic
Celtic 0 - 0 Rangers
Dundee 0 - 2 Celtic
Celtic 3 - 0 Aberdeen
Celtic 2 - 0 Partick Thistle
Heart of Midlothian 4 - 0 Celtic
Celtic 3 - 1 Hamilton
Hibernian 2 - 2 Celtic
Celtic 5 - 1 Motherwell
Celtic 3 - 1 Hearts
Celtic 1 - 0 Hibernian
Partick Thistle 1 - 2 Celtic
Aberdeen 0 - 2 Celtic
Celtic 0 - 0 St Johnstone
Kilmarnock 1 - 0 Celtic

34 points

As you can see both teams have the exact same points total for that period.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the outcome on Sunday. I am confident that if we play our A game, we will blow them away, even if they play theirs. We will just need to wait and see who performs best on the day.

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06 Mar 2018 21:46:42
The same number of points and Sevco didn't have any distraction of Europe . I wouldn't quote Union Jack because he doesn't know what team he supports.

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06 Mar 2018 21:52:45
RAW my friend with the disparity in finances we should be going there with 100% absolute confidence of a victory and that they will be shown no mercy even during Lent not discussing who’ll be the best on the day. Ed had cheered me up and did a fantastic job counselling now you’ve depressed me before retiring for the evening! πŸ˜‚πŸ‘β˜˜οΈ jfp.

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06 Mar 2018 22:28:50
Rogersatwork. If you look at your table Rangers have 34 points from 15 games. Celtic have 34 points from 16 games. So remove the last game for Celtic and they have more points. So when posters are talking about how well we are doing, we are not any better than Rangers. That's not very good.

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{Ed007's Note - Who cares? Just to be abundantly clear here, in reality we've actually played 28 games this season and are 6 points clear with a game in hand - that's the reality of it no matter how many stats people come up with to suit their ever negative arguments. I sometimes wonder what pleasure people like you actually get out of supporting Celtic, Johnny.}

06 Mar 2018 22:36:52
My apologies JFP, hopefully Sunday will bring the smile back buddy ;)

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06 Mar 2018 22:47:29
The only thing being argued over is whether or not Murty's team got more points than Rodgers' team. As I have shown, both teams have the exact same points since 26th October. Therefore, both you and UJ are wrong in what you say. The facts don't lie.

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07 Mar 2018 09:03:53
I’ve no looked at a league table in 6 years πŸ‘€.

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07 Mar 2018 10:20:07
Good posts, Forget the stats and figures from the past they are done and dusted and will never count as anything when an old firm game or a new game pops up. simples.

We all want a win, of course, but it's not the end of the world if we draw, that would make it we gained a point each, we both dropped 2 points. They are behind us and trying to catch us and they will stay behind us. win draw lose.

Success to us is winning the league, success to them is closing the gap.

The game we need to win is the semi final for the treble. BR wll be as shrewd as ever, he will play to his game plan and pick them off. Keep the faith. hail hail.

Make my enemy brave and strong, so that if defeated, I will not be ashamed.

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07 Mar 2018 10:36:22
You don't expect us to be believe that Welsbhoy?

I know you would have looked at the Championship table for a wee laugh when sevco were in it. ;)

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07 Mar 2018 19:20:18
Ed because i don't shout about how we will smash Rangers does not mean I don't support Celtic. The point was this. We are 6 clear. Over the last 20 games there is virtually no points difference that's the fact of it. If you or anyone here thinks that is good then go ahead. Over the last 20 games we have let that mob get close. Not good enough. That's the point. You may not like the facts but there they are.

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{Ed007's Note - No the point is that over our last 28 games and their 29 we've got a 6 point lead and we still a game in hand and THAT is the only fact that matters.}

07 Mar 2018 19:38:34
It only matters because you say so? Nice one. Teams are in form and out of form. Right now there is no difference in form. All that matters to me is that we win on Sunday but firm points to a draw. That's the point i am making and the stats show that. Anything else is opinion.

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{Ed007's Note - So aren't 6 points clear with a game in hand, you're saying that's my opinion?}

07 Mar 2018 20:05:28
WRead the previous post. We are 6 points clear over the season. I said that. My point is over the last 18 or so games since Murty came in there is little difference between our results. Both your point and my points are facts. We have better players and over the last 20 games we should be miles ahead. We are not. All that matters is that we win on Sunday but we are in my opinion since Murty came in no better a team than Rangers and that's not acceptable.

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{Ed007's Note - You keep blabbering about 20 games this and 18 games that, I prefer to look at the 28 we've played which is THE only number that matters.}

07 Mar 2018 20:42:07
Well you look at what you prefer to look at. In your opinion the only number that matters is the 6 points. that's your opinion. All that matters to me is the result on Sunday and why we have even let Rangers get so close. Since Christmas we have been average that's why Rangers are close. If we are average on Sunday then you will need to change your opinion or will the 3 points difference be all that matters?

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{Ed007's Note - Yes. We'll be a game closer to winning the league.}

06 Mar 2018 16:34:53
Posted my starting 11 prediction for Sunday few days ago but thinking Eboue might come into the fold if we opt to play both Dembele and Edouard from the start.

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DDV

Ajer Jozo Compper

Kouassi

Forrest Ntcham Brown Tierney

Edouard

Dembele
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06 Mar 2018 18:45:47
Eboue would be a decent shout if he can keep his sensible head on, your team does not have callum or tom rogic very unlikely those 2 will both be out of starting 11.

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06 Mar 2018 22:30:39
Brown back with Eboue and Ntcham a bit of a free role to move up and support Edouard and Dembele.

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06 Mar 2018 14:48:54
@ED . Looking at your team one thing strikes me, if we play we will stroll it. They have nothing to touch that five.

I agree with Cal Mac, Odds On might be a better sub, but as you say he links with Moussa well. Happy with either to be honest. I don't really think who they play will affect our game plan. Plus, on our game we can be very fluent in shape.

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{Ed007's Note - If we play like we did in the first leg against Zenit we'll romp it, if we play like we did against Hearts (win), Aberdeen and Morton we'll win comfortably - if we play like we did in the loss to Hearts or Zenit away we might only get a draw.}

06 Mar 2018 15:48:16
Agreed. Even allowing for Wee Willie!

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{Ed007's Note - Anything less than a win will be a bigger shock than the loss to Kilmarnock.}

06 Mar 2018 18:42:10
If we put 11 players out on the Park and keep 11 on the park we will win the game . Rangers are playing at the standard you would expect from a club not yet six years old .
I don't believe any of the Rangers waifs and strays would get a place on our Celtic team.

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06 Mar 2018 19:28:31
Not one Chris. Their best player is morelos n he'd be our fourth choice striker.

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06 Mar 2018 21:48:18
Aye but if they get the 20 million they are holding out for, he could be gone before Sunday .

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06 Mar 2018 13:04:21
Confirmed that it is Collum to ref Sundays game with Dallas as 4th official! Trying their best to keep this title race alive!

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06 Mar 2018 14:02:32
What title race? Don't believe what the media tell u.

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06 Mar 2018 14:44:16
I actually prefer Collum to guys like beaton Madden or Dallas
Collum is just a poor ref. He's not a cheat.
The other 3 don't even try to hide what they do.

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06 Mar 2018 14:47:17
Gollum.

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06 Mar 2018 14:52:39
It makes no difference what establishment, honest mistake merchant we get as long as the team do the business.
Although things may change when we get VAR in Scotland.
(Vatican Assisted Referee) ha ha ha.

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06 Mar 2018 14:54:46
When was the last time there was a decent referee in Scotland. Will need an answer from you oldies on this one i'm only 39 😁.

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06 Mar 2018 16:23:33
Stan Petrov 19 I’m 69 and remember a good referee called Hugh Phillips, then he gave Celtic two penalties in the 1965-66 league cup final against rangers and that was the end of his career. Maybe it had something to do that he was one of our own some things never change . oldkilly.

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06 Mar 2018 16:57:38
Cheers oldkilly, I'm not surprised by that. Good referees in Scotland are few and far between. Not just with ourselves there has been incidents with other clubs recently they are very poor, they look a level below amateur.

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06 Mar 2018 17:37:58
If you think these guys are bad wait until Craig Napier gets here.

He is one of the young refs coming through just now.

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06 Mar 2018 18:46:50
head soup taker.

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06 Mar 2018 18:50:25
Kev83, I doubt if you could describe Collum as an incompetent referee not a biased ref . Hold your assessment until after Sunday's game .
We will all be sitting near someone who claims to be a Celtic fan but if there is any period of the game we are not over powering them completely, our so called fans will take it out on whatever Celtic player they have taken a dislike too. At a time like this we should politely ask the loud mouths to leave off our players and get at the referee if he is giving decisions against us.

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06 Mar 2018 22:37:08
Agree he isn't biased he is literally hopeless and a bit card happy. Anyone fast tracked through by Hugh can't be trusted though. As always I'm just hoping for a clean referees performance all round amd let the better team on the day win. us. There's no room for passengers in this fixture Chris.

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07 Mar 2018 08:05:17
Old man chris. I have watch Collum for years now and have actually met him on several occasions. The guy isn't a cheat in my opinion he's just end rotten ref.

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08 Mar 2018 01:03:19
Kev83 .
I was always advised to be careful of the company I kept .
I know thank my dead parents for advising me to steer clear of cheats and con men, they have a skill in taking people in who then trust them no matter what .
Gullible Kev83 . How did W Collum use the eyes in the back of his head to give a penalty against Celtic . Had Specsavers new trial package available and why did they not mass produce these back of the head eves.

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06 Mar 2018 03:39:49
Hello one and all,

Long time reader first time poster, just a quick thank you to ED and all the posters, you keep me up to speed with my beloved Celtic family even though I'm 12000 miles away.

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{Ed007's Note - You're welcome cobber and welcome to the site too.}

06 Mar 2018 11:48:18
Welcome DownunderBhoy

I live in Sydney and this is my go to site
Totally agree with the great job Ed and our fellow posters Do.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Jimmy.}

06 Mar 2018 12:51:49
Welcome downunderbhoy to our forum, hail hail
If you know "Sydney" you must know "Mel Burne" also lol.

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06 Mar 2018 14:43:13
D'day down under and welcome to the site, Hail Hail, keep the green flag flying for us in Oz,

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06 Mar 2018 14:42:40
Jeeze Tim give the Bhoy a chance to settle before inflicting your jokes mate!

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06 Mar 2018 14:45:29
Tim wi gags like that they"ll no come back on here.

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06 Mar 2018 14:57:35
Stop inflicting them on anyone Tim. A see u never took my advice about spending your winnings on a joke book.

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06 Mar 2018 09:09:06
Chopped and changed this so many times but settled on this for the weekend. Would have liked to have seen Bain get some game time so that he could start but it ain't to be. Similar line up to Hearts game but no Boyata so Tierney drops back and McGregor comes in after a break at the weekend. Added Kouassi because of his no nonsense approach against Hearts and Zenit, strong in the tackle and kept it simple. We need to bully them from the off. On the bench 4 attack minded players any of which can come on and run riot.

De Vries

Ajer Simunovic Tierney

Brown Kouassi
Forrest Ntcham McGregor

Edouard Dembele

Rogic
Sinclair
Roberts
Musonda
Hendry.

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06 Mar 2018 09:26:01
I would agree along the same lines, with one or two variations

De Vries

Ajer
Simunovic
Tierney

Forrest
Brown
Rogic
Ntcham
McGregor

Dembele
Edouarde


Bain
Compper
Roberts
Sinclair
Kouasse
Musonda
Hendry.

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06 Mar 2018 09:52:59
The Kouassi/ Rogic thing has been bugging me since last night OAB. I really like both just feel Kouassi will help the shape more if Edouard starts.

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06 Mar 2018 10:00:42
De Vrise

Ajer
Jozo
Compper

Forrest
Brown
Ntcham
Rogic
Tierney

Edourad

Dembele.

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06 Mar 2018 10:09:36
But Rodgers will go with

De Vrise

Hendry
Jozo
Compper
Tierney

Brown
Ntcham

Forrest
Rogic
Edouard

Dembele.

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06 Mar 2018 10:38:25
Would be very surprised if Compper starts Rich T, unless it's left CB of a back 4.

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06 Mar 2018 10:50:39
Sorry just noticed you posted another selection with him there.

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06 Mar 2018 11:02:37
Yeah I think he will go with a back 4 he might even go with a 4-3-3 will c.

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06 Mar 2018 12:24:34
I like Kouassi too, but McGregor has sampled The Ibrox 'atmosphere' before and Rogic has scored there as well; just have to wait and see what BR decides - although he may not want to play Dembele and Edouarde right away as he has been reluctant before?
Also think De Vries is a worry and will need protection and as always
I suspect there will be the usual 'honest mistakes', a penalty and red card in a very volatile game; but we have the superior squad and just need to assert the class and experience.

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06 Mar 2018 13:50:28
I don't think Hendry will start, it will be Ajer in preferable back four.

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06 Mar 2018 14:42:54
No chance will Brendan leave out big Ajer Rich.

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06 Mar 2018 15:12:04
Ajer has more right starting ahead of any other CB we have Lh86. He has earned it these last couple of months the bhoy is going to be world class in time. We need to get him on a 15 year contract haha.

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06 Mar 2018 18:50:22
tierney is great as a wing back but id never have tierney as main defender in a back 3 as he is poor in the air. Going forward he could give them serious problems.

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06 Mar 2018 18:54:39
RichT it's nonsense to suggest that Rodgers won't pick Ajer, having given him a decent run of games to now .
Believe it or not B R wants Celtic to win on Sunday just as much as you or me.

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Review Of The Day 6th March 2018

06 Mar 2018 05:30:57
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