06 Mar 2015 23:24:09
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06 Mar 2015 23:42:59
Oh oh did he just say the people are deed, lol . Que public outcry . Celtic player charged with singing the truth 😊
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07 Mar 2015 00:16:58
Would be good if he did put "the ball in the netti" more often! Lol
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07 Mar 2015 12:07:50
Gone off him lately especially if reports are true he has met more than once with feyernoord officials who also have travelled to Glasgow, I feel he is showing Celtic no respect and if this is true I hope deila does not pick him for rest of season, why should we get him back to match sharpness for other teams.
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07 Mar 2015 19:51:42
Deila will pick him, if he thinks Guidetti is the man to do a job for him . We want to win the treble, our squad is not that strong that we can afford to turn our back on a player who only 3/4 months ago was our golden eyed boy. Board was getting shouted at daily for not signing him up, now we are becoming small minded and want Guidetti nowhere near the team .
If we can't trust Deila to do what is right we shouldn't have him as manager .
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06 Mar 2015 13:37:42
I read that Deila is saying about the summer transfer plans are unknown until CL qualification is sealed. The board haven't learnt their lesson from last season! We won't hardly have a defense come the summer so how can we expect to qualify without signing?
Ed is it true the CL money will be close to £30m now with this new broadcasting deal?
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{Ed007's Note - That seemsto be the estimate mate.}
06 Mar 2015 15:37:33
Possibly could mean that fees won't be paid untill CL qualification and players could be signed on bosman.
If we don't get CBs in, we won't qualify for CL. I have absolutely no faith in Ambrose
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06 Mar 2015 18:13:51
If we don't have a worse back four defender than Ambrose next season I will be happy . Ambrose didn't make the mistakes to put us out of Europe . Mr Lawwell has said our new sponsorship deal with new Balane will help Deila .
Mentioning Lawwell, indicates how he and the board have certainly backed Deila, Our CEO said that early on there were doubters among the playing squad about Deila's training ideas and fitness regime . No doubt many agents were on to Lawwell complaining that their special players should be treated differently and no man from the arse hole of Norway would tell them how to live their lives. The Board backed Deila, nearly all the players have backed him and we are reaping the benefit .
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06 Mar 2015 18:51:35
ED007 as earlier posters have said it seems worrying that Delia has no plans (or at the moment no funds) to recruit some players, I will not count CL money just now as we do not know if we will qualify, but surely we will receive money from this years Europa league circa £5m+, it is also certain most of the loan players will leave freeing up both spaces and wages, it also looks like VVD will leave we should get upwards of £7m for him I know Lawwell will not make all this money available but surely a kitty of say £5m plus 3 extra wages is not out of reach. We need to learn lessons of last few seasons when we have went into important CL qualifiers ill prepared.
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06 Mar 2015 19:07:22
Not about the current "template" this is about a bit of vision surely?
We know our deficiencies, we know we are probably going to lose our preferred centre half PAIRING!
RD has also said he knows we need a vocal leader nothing better than that being a COMMANDING CH IMO and he would go and get one if needed, time is on our side there a good few out there so let's let the scouts do there work! let's face it folks easily there could be a £100 - £150K A WEEK! of the wage bill dependant on who is shifted out (and there are plenty)!
As a said before there could be at least EIGHT shifted without making a dent in the first preferred 11 ish!
ATVB JB7
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06 Mar 2015 23:00:03
Jamiebhoy I reckon the scouts can come up with any amount of key players for key positions every year but unfortunately the vast majority of these players will look on Scottish football even with Celtic as a last resort, So no matter how we try we are likely to be fighting over the scraps at the end of season .
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07 Mar 2015 00:58:00
I thougth Delias strong point was bringing on and developing young players from inside the club, i.e. Celtic, why don't you all stop mouthing off about someone, anyone who looks good on a few european league games and tell tell RD to concentrare on young Scottish, Irish english players, hopefully he won't employ another Berger
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07 Mar 2015 10:07:13
@Chris - "Ambrose didn't make the mistakes to put us out of Europe"!?!? Are you serious? You don't class error for second goal and subsaquently getting sent of in the first quarter of the first of 2 legs against that Polish mob as a mistake?
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07 Mar 2015 16:36:01
Tompo88, it's great having a super memory. Of what Ambrose has done and not done but I think you just wanrt to remember what you think Ambrose has done wrong and want to bring up historical events . The sending off that you refer to was when Mulgrew sent a horrible back pass in the general direction of Ambrose . Ambrose's speed got him in contact with the player and the referee judge a foul and sent him off. Most normal Celtic. Fans who haven't got a hate Ambrose brain put that mistake down to Mulgrew. I prefer Celtic fans who encourage all Celtic players to do their best .
Historic achievements, and blunders.that happened two or three seasons ago are unlikely to have an input this season or next .
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07 Mar 2015 17:37:27
Hi Chris, The scouts will know exactly, the budgets, the types we need, even those available on Bosman's, its the nuggets in Belguim & Holland, The Scandinavian's on RD's wish list, if not they are in wrong job
We are not shopping at Harrod's mate with Aldi's budget
There a few of us on here who are not Scouts! but could take a real good guess at it, different levels of a "wish list" who would improve us IMO
Top of my list would be Havard Nordtveit of Munchengladbach
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07 Mar 2015 20:08:05
There are many people on forums who think they have a really good guess at it different levels of a wish list that would improve us in YMO
The thing is the amateur hacks on forums can name drop to the cows come home . They are rarely wrong as know one knows how the named performer would perform in Scotland and European football. The amateur pundits don't know whether his Wag wants to spend the next three years or so in gloomy Glasgow .
A couple of years ago the amateurs almost to a man were beseeching the board to throw money at Finnbogason and not one has admitted he got it wrong .
Mate, we might have an Aldi budget but no young exciting players who have faith in themselves are going on to the Aldi lines, until the window is about to close .
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07 Mar 2015 20:53:06
No Chris, sorry but I disagree big time the day we need to start factoring WAGs into our signing policy is a day to give up altogether IMO ffs!
There must be plenty out there who would ADORE the chance for there next club to be us giving the European platform/arena we have
That is the clubs ideology for now "rough diamond" signings factor that in with a quality of decent Joe Ledley type Bosman's where we can bin the transfer fee and bump up the wages is ideal for me
There are plenty on here with a great/good knowledge of players that would be realistic signings like JimTim . DN30, another with one of the best knowledge's is Hamiltonbhoy who a have not seen in donks!
All for the greater benefit of our club, nothing more
As for Finbogasson again a few wanted him to make the transition from Helsinborg to Celtic instead of the Dutch club Herneveen he then want on to Spain for circa £8 mill so maybe they were right after all?
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08 Mar 2015 00:42:10
Jamiebhoy I assume you are a lot younger than myself 65, however you might have old fashioned ideas and maybe even a hatred of women if you are not going to factor WAGs into the equation when having players coming to Celtic to play .
As far back as mid to late 60's Jock Stein who was a very forward thinking manager often spoke how pleased he was that a player had got a permanent or regular girlfriend . He was always encouraging his players to get married .
Thankfully Jamie, you don't have any say in signing players, keep coming up with your random players and if they are good and if we lose them to Nottingham Forrest after 12 months that's fine, wives and girlfriends don't count .
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08 Mar 2015 00:48:26
Jamiebhoy, no harm to the posters you mention. How do you know that they have a great knowledge of players who could come to us and do a good job . That's Virgin territory, it hasn't been tested .
You cannot say they they were right after all, now that Finnbogason isn't scoring, if he did in Scotland what he is doing in Spain who was right .
The answer is mate, we don't know, but the hundreds on the Scottish forums seemed to know.
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08 Mar 2015 13:32:13
Chris am 42 no a don't have a hatred of women and as someone who is the youngest with 5 sisters above me a object to that suggestion! but further down the post you say wives & girlfriends don't count?! So a don't understand your point
To harp back to Jock Stein years morale's / standards / expectations for good and bad have moved on Chris
As for the other posters surely when they highlight a player you do your own homework it is not that hard in this day and age and form a view on them?
Clearly Chris, you are beginning to irk/annoy quite a few on here by suggesting they are ANTI Celtic or RD! or should go and support another team or question there loyalty at 65 a would have thought a man of that years would appreciate differing viewpoints? Maybe your just stubborn?
The people that formed the view that Fingbossan was a steal at circa £650k at Helsingborg who made the ONE move he did only to move on again for CIRCA £8 MILLION a think they are entitled to be viewed very favourably as this is the current model at Celtic
This is a forum for all Chris you never seem to post an OP but feel the need to interject I find that a bit ODD if am honest but a hope you have a change of tact as you appear to be irking more than you are winning over
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06 Mar 2015 11:19:52
Reading Peter Lawwell's interview yesterday was quite eye opening in that he admitted at the start some of the team did not take to Delia's fitness regime and in effect "rebelled" for a spell. I was a critic of the new manager at the start, based purely on on field events and going out of CL so tamely.We can now all see the improvement in the team are are now all behind Ronnie, but that does not mean he is above criticism when merited, some posters on here see it almost as an act of treason to say anything negative about Delia yet in same post berate previous managers, we all want Celtic to succeed and we all hold different views which makes Celtic fans what we are a big inclusive family who hold so many differing viewpoints but still support Celtic Football Club.
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{Ed001's Note - I did try and tell you all that some of the team were not keen and causing issues! I seem to remember being given grief (you being one of the main culprits!) and very few believed me, all too ready to blame it all on the new manager.}
06 Mar 2015 12:56:43
I still don't see any difference in the team from when we had Wanyama, Hooper and Ledley etc.
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06 Mar 2015 13:19:46
@ed001 Personally I think getting paid upwards of £10k a week, to play football for any massive club is an honour. Extra fitness training is not a big ask and can be the difference towards playing final moments of a game against a multi-million opposing team.
Total witch hunt against Deila at start from some supporters and all he was trying to do was implement much needed change for the benefit of the team.
No player is bigger than club and personally I don't care how good a player they are, if they think they can cause problems then they can go.
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{Ed001's Note - sadly players think they are entitled to do very little for their huge wages.}
06 Mar 2015 13:30:37
I was arguing yesterday on FB about this, If people are to be praised for the good they do then they should be criticised for the bad also. Just because some fans air their views on things some supporters make out you ain't a real fan, Its annoying.
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06 Mar 2015 13:33:05
Not really, what players will be leaving for £11m anytime soon?
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{Ed001's Note - sorry but are you judging players on whether they leave for big money or how they play? Ridiculous post, you will not get a player valued by £11m while you play in a league with only one club. Until you have a competitive league, the players values will be low, even if they stand out a mile.}
06 Mar 2015 15:35:17
So in your opinion wanyamma is a better player than brown or Johansen Mrs e, as a matter of fact by your calculation is he the best player ever to play for us because he left us for the most money?
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06 Mar 2015 15:57:06
Wanyama was a great player for us. no doubt. proved himself time and again in the CL. Bossed the midfield bigtime. that's why we got big money for him. could play CB, RB, CM with ease. different type of players so unfair to compare but I would take Wanyama back in a heartbeat.
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06 Mar 2015 16:19:06
I am not so sure Deila demanded extra sessions in training . I think Deila demanded and later on got more efforts out of their training . Deila demanded far far more the players and I think we have seen the big benefits of this . From reading up on modern training, the player or athlete must rest completely when not actively training. One thing that would please me, no going out shopping with WAG .
The bookies are out., the nights out are out, minimum 12 hours sleeping.
This plus the proper diet, would certainly be a major change for our bhoys .
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06 Mar 2015 13:51:25
Eh? Wanyama went for that price mainly due to a decent performance in the Champions League and this was nothing to do with one team league.
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06 Mar 2015 14:04:19
Mrs E if response was directed at my post, I was meaning football players in general so yes really. There are many players valued at £11m upwards.
Ed001 its a sad state of affairs and money has truly killed not only football, but some players ethics. With training issue at celtic, I would not be surprised if a certain player (who shall remain nameless in case certain folk spit dummy out) who has previous was involved.
Football is a sport and unless its darts, majority of sports require fitness. i'm disgusted to know there are players at club who caused issues all because they were asked to do extra fitness.
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06 Mar 2015 17:57:44
I think Wanyama was well worth what we got for him, I wouldn't be surprised if he is worth a lot more than that, given the form he's been in for Southampton this season.
Sadly most footballers these days are mercenaries, they tend to play for themselves rather than the club. I always smile when I see the Lisbon Lions, they not only take pride in winning the European Cup, but loved playing for Celtic. I doubt football let alone Celtic will see their like again.
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06 Mar 2015 18:07:34
Giving this one last go
I have seen written on here (and it's very easy to find) positions that posters having given their opinion need strengthened, why?
Yes Ronny is using different training methods to the previous Manager - why is that haud the front page stuff? Most Managers have different training methods but the way some think it's going to turn Griffiths into Messi was ridiculous.
I see no difference in this team to the one that made the last 16 of the CL and that should be Celtic's plan for next season?
Gimme the treble and trophies all day long, fab! But we do not have the TV cash of England and without CL football you tell me the long term prospects of Celtic.
This isn't a go at Ronny, it's this misconception that ability somehow doesn't count it that all our players were fat.
GMS and Armstrong have walked straight into this team and do not look in anyway less fit to me. Sure Armstrong made a comment about the training but he's hardly struggled.
And before we go again with chipgate, I'd expect it to be a given footballers were fit.
Quote from Jock Stein (over 40 yrs ago) 'There is no excuse for a professional footballer not be 100% fit'
I don't think that was on the back pages for weeks upon end.
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06 Mar 2015 18:27:23
I think we have more exact ways of measuring players fitness and their work rate at training with the equipment they can have .
Fitness is relative, Jock Stein's Celtic were one of the fitest teams in Europe in the later part of the 60's. That doesn't say that the Lisbon Lions would match the fittest teams of today .
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06 Mar 2015 18:37:11
I'll see if Ronny can get me fit, maybe stick me up at centre forward.
Do you see how ridiculous it's become
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06 Mar 2015 19:27:16
Mrs E, fitness is crucial and was a concern untill new regime implemented. Was not so long ago Shrewsbury Town were complaining about Atajic's fitness and Notts County were the same with McGregor, clearly there was an issue if smaller clubs have issue with our players.
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06 Mar 2015 19:37:18
Mrs E you make a good point, fitness only counts if you are already a good footballer, it may give you an edge over another good footballer.
What no fitness regime can do is make a bad player into a good one. Players must have ability in the first place.
I know it's not the modern way, but I tend to judge a player on their ability to play football.
I wonder out of interest, would people rather a player go home to rest after a training session, or would they rather he stayed behind, and tried to improve his skills?
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06 Mar 2015 19:44:40
@DN, I know we have had our differing opinions, but I cudnt disagree with you more. I feel total outrage. Darts is a sport!! lol.
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06 Mar 2015 20:19:02
@DN that's 2 players and their ability has hardly improved.
Gerry attitude and discipline are also very important, definitely! And not just in football, in all walks of life.
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06 Mar 2015 20:21:11
Mrs e should all the players that make it as far as the Celtic first team not be talented footballers, so the one way we can improve them is to make them very fit talented footballers . You intimated that none of the current squad would fetch 11 million, I agree but my question is does that make him a better player than brown or Johansen?
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06 Mar 2015 20:32:00
@rayman nothing beats a good night out with mates like getting absolutely smashed at the darts lol
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06 Mar 2015 23:10:44
Fitness is something that the management staff have to get all the players to buy into. Players can go through the motions at training ( although modern gadgets make it harder to bluff . The fittest players at Celtic are the players who do voluntary gym work after training . Top GAA amateur footballers and hurlers train four or five times a day and keep their day job . Sutton huffed and left Celtic because WGS wanted him to train twice a day. Most players themselves think that they are training well and are fit . It's only managers like Deila and his back-up team like McGuinness that can get a higher level of fitness out of them . I believe the Celtic team will be building up their fitness all the time .
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06 Mar 2015 23:26:46
Mrs E Ability is not the issue, fitness is. Bad day when 2 lower league english clubs, criticise fitness standard.
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07 Mar 2015 00:39:06
DN you could go around in circles all night with this, McGregor was a stand out at Notts County but still can't cut it at Celtic. Atajic is quite lightweight anyway and not getting many games which could account for lack of 1st team match fitness so not a bad day,
Think we're reading to much into it.
I'm giving up on this, on here anyway. Away to get my eyes tested, taking the scouts at Southampton with me :-)
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07 Mar 2015 05:31:45
There must be a problem at Southampton, our most expensive export isn't getting much game time .
The manager and his fitness team cannot make a player get fit, if wants to cheat the system . It doesn't look as Guidetti is too fit just now .
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07 Mar 2015 11:01:59
Chris if Wanyama is not injured then he plays for Southampton, he is one of their best players, and is a big miss for them when he is out.
Ki is the same at Swansea, he has become one of their best players, the reason for this is that he is a talented player, and not just because he is fit.
I don't know where this myth came from that Celtic players were unfit before Ronny came. The way we played in the matches against Barcelona in 2012 would not have been possible with unfit players.
Last season we lost heavily to them because we had sold a few of those players, the fitness levels were no doubt the same as the previous year, but the talent in the team was a lot less. Why people have started to blame fitness for this is beyond me.
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07 Mar 2015 20:17:50
Gerryc no doubt you think Victor is one of Southampton's best players. He must be injured a lot as he is out of the team often . Ki didn't have a good first year in England but this season he is playing very well.
Fitness is one of the key areas that a manager can influence.
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08 Mar 2015 00:54:55
Brave tart .
I have to say if you were an impartial reporter for a Scottish Newspaper I would agree that if players get praised when they do well, they should get critised if they don't perform .
However we are Celtic supporters are role should be to support and encourage players through thick and thin .
( by the way we all know impartial Scottish Football journalists don't exist )
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