Celtic Banter Archive December 06 2020

06 Dec 2020 20:09:08
guys, still reeling from that pish today. we must ask why is he still there? if a potential new manager is approached the first thing he will ask is "what is my budget? "and if reports of lawwell leaving at the end of season are true, he won't want to spend any money incase it eats into his bonus. there is just no logic in keeping lennon in the post unless he has something big on the board.

06 Dec 2020 20:56:48
Nonsense.

06 Dec 2020 21:49:08
why is it nonsense. can you then explain what is going on?

06 Dec 2020 22:28:14
He’ll be gone and someone else will
Be brought in and he won’t have anything in the board. It’s a simple results driven business and he’s nearly gone barring a miraculous turnaround in form.

06 Dec 2020 22:38:56
I think Neil deserves his name rather than being referred to as he. And I think a potential new managers first question might rather be ‘do I want to manage a club if that’s how their fans behave when their team has won 11 out of the last 1 trophies and who are on the verge of a quadruple treble. ’ A bigger embarrassment for me every day of the week than losing the 10.

06 Dec 2020 22:49:52
So you think Lawwell who's bonus depends on winning trophies and progress in Europe is keeping Lennon where we are already out of Europe and it looks like we won't win anything because according to you Lennon has something on the board
I that makes sense!
Also all the new manager needs to know is that there are 5 or 6 players in the squad that want out and any money we make from the sales, he can spend on new players.

06 Dec 2020 23:05:23
Lennon has a team of players that have been suffering from hypertension for years big ego's apparently half the team were worth 20 million plus each if that's the case then Rangers will clear their debts no problem when they flog half their team and manager next season. Lennon has way too many players in the team not his type Ntcham, Eduard McGregor, Ajer, Christie and Frimpong all football players. you'll all remember the Brendan never shouted at us rumour. Now he has had 20 months this time around to sort things out but the board have mucked around with key positions they kept players at the club for the 10 who wanted to leave you can see that now what's their worth in January a lot less that last summer. But that's football Lenny hasn't got a magic wand but he can drop the lazy players who don't do what their asked to do. Remember Thomas Graveson and Paul Hartley even Neil Lennon hooked in the cup final Big Bobo excommunicated examples of being the Gaffer Gordan Strachan"s way or you dissappear didn't care what your worth was only to him.

I think Lenny has been looking at the long term trying to keep it ticking along get cash in and move them on. Big mistake I hope things turn around but it's not looking too good not sure who could come in and get a reaction as I still think we are short on the right side. Even if we bring another coach in a big personality is needed to give the squad a lift personally I would bring in John Hughes to coach the players till the end of the season with Lennon I don't see that happening but it's that type of Character required but I think it would take a Vieira and Keane double act it might get them running. onwards and upwards troops HH.

06 Dec 2020 23:24:12
I have defended NL and I still want him to stay. However, I also see that HE may be the one to go.
NL had a good team going last season but the players are just not doing it this season, Why? I have no idea.
I have heard rumours of fights, discontent, players wanting away etc. etc. I have no inside info so cannpot comment.
I do believe that if a player wants away then he should be playing to is best,
If players are deliberately playing bad then they should be ashamed of themselves (like they care)
Right now, they can't cross, pass, chase back, score, defend Second to every ball and those individuals who stood out last season look like they are on valium (Eddy is case in point)
Is THAT down to NL?
Players trying to get boss sacked? Is it that easy?
I will do a bad job and they will sack my boss? I n the real world I know how THAT would work.

06 Dec 2020 23:49:19
I caught part of Lennys after match interview on the radio, what I think he was saying, is that he can't understand how these same players were so good last season and now they can't perform, he thinks it's a lack of confidence or done phycological thingy, and he knows it will just take a spark of inspiration or something, to set the whole team alight, and everything will be hunky dory again, so he tries to keep playing the same players, because, he knows all they are missing is that elusive spark, but I think he is all wrong, the players that performed well last year, are now a year older, and, in some cases, a year slower, and in one case, even more slower, he should start playing Ntcham, Turnbull and Soro from the start, he should be playing LG and Eddi as a front two, in the next, whatever number of games, I was amazed when I seen the team selection for today, but when I listened to the aftermath interview, or the bit that I heard, I understood why he picked that team, but Lenny, you are wrong, that is yesterdays team, you have to let go of the past, just remember, tomorrow is the first day of the new Celtic team, and that team will be s lot different from the team that faced St Johnstone.

06 Dec 2020 23:58:34
I think Lennon has been well backed this season and last.

No player sales despite CL exit.

The players we have signed are of decent pedigree - Elyounoussi, Ajeti, Barkas, Turnbull, Duffy to name a few.

Gone are the days when managers have full control over players brought in. IF Lawell interferes in football matters then this is wrong. From the outside looking in it seems he likes his managers to be peppets on his string. Some of the recruitment has been poor but the main concern for me is the regression of established players. Not one player has improved under Lennon. This is down to poor and outdated coaching methods. The buck stop with the manager. End of.

Without sounding like a Lawell fanboy:
£9M on Edouard.
£7M on Julien.
£5M on Ajeti.
£5M on Barkas.
£3.5M on Bolingoli.
£3.5M on Turnbull.
£3M on Klimala.
Massive outlays on guys like Forster, Elyounoussi, Laxalt and Duffy on loan deals.

Then there's guys like Taylor, Soro, Elhamed etc.

Thats not bad going for a team playing in Scotland. I don't think Lawell and the board can be criticised for not backing the quest for 10 in a row but what they certainly can be held to account for is appointing Lennon as manager a d now stubbornlystandingby him. there's a reason why teams down south didn't want him when he left us 1st time around. there's also a reason why he left Hibs. Think about that, when would Celtic ever consider a manager sacked by Hibs?

Its sad that he believes in himself when no one else does not even his players. I doubt he will resign as he will want his payoff.

I read an interview Desmond gave around 2004 where he said he would never bow to mob mentality he is standing by that now and its the only reason Lennon is still in a job.

Not pressing the panic button yet but change is needed and its needed soon if we are to salvage the league campaign.

07 Dec 2020 00:00:53
Its nonsense that Lawwell won't want to spend any money because well its just bull$hit. We have always spent in January added to that board have already said they are looking to bring players in.

06 Dec 2020 19:18:53
Right now for me the worry is not if we can win the league. The way this is going l am worried if we can finish second! Without a change we won't finish second and god help us in the derby match coming up. We could be in for a serious hammering unless action is taken asap. How o how can we have let a team who a few years ago were playing division 3 football have taken us over and now passed us out. Shocking by all at Celtic who allowed this to happen from the board all the way down to Lennon.

06 Dec 2020 20:31:19
We have played two games less than most and are still second. We will finish a distant second the way things are going. 15-20 behind them and 15-20 ahead of aberdeen and hibs.

06 Dec 2020 21:49:22
Yes we have 2 games in hand fifer but are u confident we will win them after what u have seen over the last few weeks under the current manager? I'm not!

06 Dec 2020 22:51:42
No I'm not but given current standings we will be a comfortable second.

06 Dec 2020 19:17:15
If success as a business man means you can't ever admit you are wrong I am happy that I am poor If PL can't admit he got it terribly wrong in appointing Lenny then In away I feel sorry for him because everyone needs to be humble and honest some time.

06 Dec 2020
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Time to get your lawn in order Lenny.

06 Dec 2020 19:09:09
When i watch us play we are so easy to play against all teams have to do is set up how to follow and pressure a pass that's all we do is try to basic pass around teams, we hardly have anyone run and actually try to take players on give that bit of magic that disrupts a organised team, we are so slow and obvious. If we had players actually run and drive into the box we will get something but it's just the same old run forward stop then play it back or across. This is obviously what there working on so training must be so boring for players i know they aren't giving 100% and most should be dropped but playing boring football is draining the players and the supporters.

06 Dec 2020 22:56:39
Agree SteveBhoy been saying for ages the team is too narrow as there isn't any natural width in the team with inverted wingers or people playing out of position. Even when in decent areas to cross the players movement is lacking, no one attacks the ball or the delivery is terrible and doesn't beat the first man. That just forces play into the middle where the teams have everyone behind the ball. Like you say easy to play against.

06 Dec 2020 18:51:29
It's clear to all Lenny has to go, he knows it, everybody knows but the board. This is a financial head to head dispute settlement between the board and Lennon. In the meantime the club is neglected and abandoned and going down like a lead balloon. They've forgotten our clubs directions and interests for their personal financial rewards.

06 Dec 2020 18:13:32
Evening Ed and the fellow posters, not been posting a lot recently due to my mother going through some major chemotherapy and my family struggling to cope. I now have 5mins to post my disgust at what's going on! I actually forgot Celtic were even playing today due to my life going into turmoil the last few months and only realised the result when my mate ( a Hibernian fan) hibs move closer to securing 2nd place all good spirits and for a hibs fan he is a laugh I suppose. But what's isn't a laugh is the State of Celtic Footballl Club, from the top to the bottom this club is rotten to the core and it's time to cut out the rot before it keeps spreading! How Lennon has not resigned ( any die hard Celtic fan would for the sake of the club) or board haven't sacked him ( should walk along with Lennon) is an absolute disgrace. Obviously my mind is elsewhere at the moment but even the most green tinted supporter could see the club is done at the moment and we need a change from the very top, all the way to the bottom. Am I against the protests? Absolutely not as it's the fans that keep this club going and we deserve some respect. You can't be throwing items and assaulting people tho even if you are angry! But it's only matter of time before these protest get worse unless changes are made. Hope all is well with everyone and hope everyone has a nice Christmas as going to struggle to get on to post before then. I will will read what fellow posters are saying tho and visit the site a few times a day. HH.

{Ed007's Note - Aw Mikey I'm really sorry to hear that buddy, I was wondering where you had been on the live chat. Keep your chin up and I will pray for all of you, God bless 🙏

06 Dec 2020 18:39:31
really hope all works out well for you micheal.

06 Dec 2020 18:44:30
Sorry to hear what you and the family are going Micheal_Dundee_7, I lost my mum in June, my prayers are with you all 🙏.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry to hear that, AGG. Stay strong buddy🙏

06 Dec 2020 19:12:09
Michael I am so sorry to hear about your position just now I really hope and pray for happy times ahead for you and all your family.

06 Dec 2020 19:23:13
Just reminded me of life's priorities Michael. God bless.

06 Dec 2020 19:38:16
Michael, We are all thinking and praying for you and yours.

06 Dec 2020 19:38:18
Michael, thoughts and prayers are with you. It’s been a terrible year on it’s own without something like that to deal with . Take care.

06 Dec 2020 20:44:27
@MD7. Take care of yous buddy. Chemo is a sh1tty time but it is obviously survivable. I don’t know which type of chemo your mum is getting but it all makes you feel rotten and the problem is that it’s indiscriminate and just attacks everything it touches. I had my first sessions of chemo back in 2014 but I’m out the other side now. I’m currently going through immunotherapy but at least it is targeted and it ends on 23rd December so over for Christmas. Hopefully you can spoil your mum at Christmas buddy. I’ll add her to my prayers.

{Ed007's Note - 🙏

06 Dec 2020 17:37:03
lennon is still coming out saying he's the man omg this man is deluded.

06 Dec 2020 17:46:46
Looks like we are stuck with lennon. can't see him quitting and the board are too spineless to sack him.

06 Dec 2020 17:49:15
As a fan of the team surely he must do the decent thing and walk away now. If he doesn't he will further tarnish everything he achieved. Any poll now would surely show 90% want a change.

06 Dec 2020 17:54:22
This is like Groundhog Day, surely this is beyond a joke now. He needs it taken out of his hands, then a good appointment made. Go and get Benitez and let him organise us and build us again. If they pump him then put in Kennedy or strachan until the end of the year it will be more of the same.

{Ed007's Note - Benitez is on £12 million a year in China - and that's after tax.}

06 Dec 2020 17:56:07
He should be replaced, that is simple, but he won't walk its his job at the end of the day, doesn't show your next suitor any great confidence of you walk, this is a board issue and they should do the right thing, I hope the crowds don't gather and cause anymore unnecessary carry on outside the ground, NL has been a great servant to the club on and off the field, his time is up let's remember the good with Lenny not the current.

06 Dec 2020 18:01:08
He is being very arrogant and selfish. Just wish he would go.

06 Dec 2020 18:03:29
This is absolutely unbearable and verging on insanity.
It has been crystal clear for weeks, that he's incapable of turning this disastrous season around. Yet, he is still there, picking the same under-performing players, making the same predictable changes, feeding us excuses, but fooling no-one.
The Board are guilty of absolute incompetence in allowing this farce to continue, while the players who got us into this mess - instead of going down in history - will feature in 'They Shamed The Hoops' 2020.

06 Dec 2020 18:09:26
He may be slightly out of our price range then Ed, we will have to make do with Malkay mackay then 😂.

{Ed007's Note - No chance - I'd rather have Fulton Mackay (if he's still alive)}

06 Dec 2020 18:18:18
We had a chance to get Rafa when BR left but we got Lennon instead and the fans celebrated.

06 Dec 2020 18:30:01
He’s deid Ed but still a better shout.

{Ed007's Note - The Porridge film was on TV yesterday and it's still quality.}

06 Dec 2020 18:38:01
I sat in santa ponsa as we beat hearts to win Scottish Cup n lennon then got job n can tell you no 1 celebrated he got it whole place went flat.

06 Dec 2020 18:48:29
I was on a 17 seater back down the road talk about a come down.

06 Dec 2020 17:20:31
We're watching a decade of hope and anticipation being squandered by a gang of parasites in the boardroom. It's not even Lennon's fault anymore. He should have been gone long ago. Lots of us called it the minute he was appointed. I'll admit I, along with many others, convinced myself it would work after some really good moments last season but how wrong I was.

06 Dec 2020 17:25:22
I said it on here already kev but at the rate we are going we will do well to finish second. From top to bottom it's just so bad. Surely the whole management team have to go now.

06 Dec 2020 17:40:04
The whole management team should have walked the day after we lost to sevco, it's not the fact we lost but it was how we lost, not a single shot on target at HOME that's just pathetic.

06 Dec 2020 17:54:12
I work in an enviroment where i have to highlight risk to the management. If the managemnet choose to ignore my recommendations then they are then culpable for their decisions and are at fault when rubbish goea south. We as celtic fans have spoken since old firm game and the board have failed to listen to our assement of risk. So to me they are the ones in the dock. I like lennon but it is now out of his hands and the board are now to blame for our demise and probable loss of 10iar.

06 Dec 2020 17:59:43
My mate just pointed out that by the time we play our next league game, we could be in 4th place. Shocking!

{Ed007's Note - I know, who'd have thought you had a mate!}

06 Dec 2020 18:19:33
ED, The problem is that they are all Sevco supporters.

{Ed007's Note - Ach well it serves you right for mixing with them 😁

06 Dec 2020 15:49:24
Soro must start games the boy looks a player.

06 Dec 2020 16:15:23
Then there's Turnbull.

06 Dec 2020 17:02:01
A joke bought these players never plays them plays players who let him down and they done it again a draw same players madness same system same results shambolic what is he doing?

06 Dec 2020 17:13:35
The constant repeat of a formula that's produced rubbish makes me wonder if it's his intention.

06 Dec 2020 17:17:13
I think it is.

06 Dec 2020 17:20:09
Has Lennon ever used the full allocation of subs once this year?
I honestly can't remember him using the 5 subs, you have got to wonder what the boys on the bench are thinking when he can make another 2 subs when we are chasing the game but he doesnt.

06 Dec 2020 17:20:43
He knows who aren't trying for him yet keeps playing them. I think he's given up himself because he's not even getting angry now. What tf has happened?

06 Dec 2020 17:46:36
He probably brought 5 on in the last min of a game we were losing in. He is a tactical moron he has to go but he is too stubborn. He will come out and say that he can turn this around and he will probably say look at the positives. There are none except we didn't lose for a change. I just wish lennon would look on fans forums to see what people think of him. Maybe then he will get the hint.

06 Dec 2020 15:01:07
Great hearing Stan today talking about passion and what it should mean to the player to play for Celtic.

06 Dec 2020 15:50:05
get him on the coaching setup.

06 Dec 2020 16:03:43
Why Liam.

06 Dec 2020 17:09:16
because stephbhoy listen to the man his insight his knowledge his passion everybody needs a chance at one point that's why.

06 Dec 2020 17:11:15
tell me why you wouldn't.

06 Dec 2020 17:22:40
We've already got Kennedy in there out of sympathy if we're being honest here. Love Stan but he's not the answer either. We've all got passion.

06 Dec 2020 17:33:46
how do we know he's not the answer and it certainly wouldn't be out of sympathy. and yes the two muppets that are our coaching staff are showing loads of passion slumped on the bench game after game.

06 Dec 2020 18:26:55
There isn't one coach on that bench every week showing passion Caese.
It was the same today when Lennon turned and said something to Kennedy, he just shrugged his shoulders, it's like the blind leading the blind knowing they are heading straight towards a cliff and you are just waiting to fall over the edge.

06 Dec 2020 13:43:31
14 points behind going into today's game. Nothing other than 3 points is acceptable.

06 Dec 2020 13:49:47
I fear the worst if brown starts and also if he goes with ntcham, brown and mcgregor.

Should be playing 4-4-2.

06 Dec 2020 13:52:48
Agreed 4-4-2. Ntcham would have played his last game for me against them.

06 Dec 2020 14:05:35
Expected them to win - and that's the difference from last season's Sevco - however, it's all down to us, our attitude, effort and fight. We have already surrendered one trophy with a whimper, have been made whipping-bhoys of The EL. I know we have been saying this for far too long, but the real Celtic need to turn-up or else.

06 Dec 2020 14:25:06
Browns 600th game today. A grear achievement and a great captain however he needs rotated more often.5-0 the hoops.

{Ed007's Note - It's CalMac's 300th appearance for us as well.}

06 Dec 2020 14:48:30
Is that why thier both starting? hh.

06 Dec 2020 15:08:04
#freesoroandturnbull#.

06 Dec 2020 15:10:37
Get soro and turnbull playing why chase the latter for a year and then not play him.

06 Dec 2020 12:50:38
I’ve just read what Peterborough chief Barry Fry had to say about Ivan Toney who is scoring for fun at Brentford.
He said Toney would’ve walked to Celtic and that he wasn’t only their best forward but also their best DEFENDER because he was brilliant at clearing corner kicks.
I wonder if he’s also good in goals.

06 Dec 2020 13:04:52
Sounds more versatile than a Swiss army knife. Really think he would of made a massive difference this season, but then again knowing lennon he probably would of been a very expensive bench warmer.

06 Dec 2020 13:18:37
I think Ivan Toney was another one that got away.

06 Dec 2020 13:42:07
I think they were probably waiting to see if Edouard was leaving and would then have went for him.

06 Dec 2020 11:01:52
Why is Griffiths shouting his mouth off about the Sevco players not getting into the Celtic team?
A Celtic team who’ve conceded 27 goals in our last 11 games. It’s embarrassing.
It’s coming from a guy who hasn’t been capable of playing 90 minutes since lockdown in March.
He should start by getting himself fit and doing his shouting on the park.

06 Dec 2020 11:24:34
He should be taken aside fined told to shut the feck up and to start doing his talking on the park.

06 Dec 2020 12:00:14
Fined for talking?

06 Dec 2020 12:06:10
No fined for making a hard job harder and damaging the club. The last thing Celtic need is giving them more motivation I’m sure his comments will be up on their dressing room wall.

06 Dec 2020 12:27:38
Have you read his comments? Or just the clickbait headline. What he says is what I would expect any team mate to say if asked.

06 Dec 2020 12:37:32
When asked if he believed Celtic still had the best squad in Scotland, he said: “One million percent’

I think he’d have been better commenting that that would become clear at the end of the season.

06 Dec 2020 12:37:43
I don’t think he’s damaged the club at all by his comments.

06 Dec 2020 12:39:38
Stop talking start playing.

06 Dec 2020 13:10:31
I think if asked that question he would’ve been stupid to say they have better players 😂.

06 Dec 2020 13:13:19
What else could he say? Sounds like a bit of a set up to me. Lose lose situation for him, imagine he said opposite? There would be uproar.

06 Dec 2020 16:05:26
At least their players are available to play week in week out. What good is having players like Griffiths if he contributes little to the first team by being out continuously. Agree he should focus on getting fit and priving that point on the pitch.

05 Dec 2020 23:28:17
prosinecki or xavi / ineista the best i've seen . hagi, giannini, baggio up there skill wise with diego but he did it all. best celt. i've seen Larsson, dicanio and lubo no far behind. big pierre was mighty 2.