Celtic Banter Archive August 06 2013

06 Aug 2013 22:31:09
Apparently The Rangers' draw with Newcastle proves they can handle Celtic.

1903

Should be more worried about handling brechin after the game against the bridie bakers was pleased to here their mass demo went well that mob deserve to be $hat all over spinless shower of zombie sheep

Lol the fact hey. Brag about drawing a friendly shows they've no class at all, friendly games are about trying new things and get fit Newcastle must be embarrassed drawing with division 3 scottish champions that's like lower than conference lol

06 Aug 2013 22:19:37
It would be a great bit of business if we could manage to get 4-5 m for Ambrose as he's a bomb scare of a centre half as for big kelvin never thought ad say it but will be sad to see him go but if he's homesick its understandable and 2m is a fair price. If we lost these two a think we should bring in a quality cb and push the boat out for a cf preferably Alfred finnbogasson and miby a young cm that would fit our signing policy ie a john park special lol if we did manage to get another 2-3 quality players in that Celtic team will not be far away atall as for the green brigade i'm disgusted in how they've been treated they back the team for the full 90 minutes and are part of what makes match day at cp unique, just think the least Celtic could have done would be to have introduce a safe standing area and made it over 2-3 sections as youd fill it no bother the gb have played a massive part in bringing the thunder back to Celtic park

stand up for the green brigade

kieran

Why couldn't the gb just follow the guidelines? How many times were they warned? How many more times must the club get in trouble for them? They are great for the club but not with some dumb things they do.

07 Aug 2013 00:31:42
i feel we must follow the dortmund example, take away the seats behinnd one goal, even allow drink in the stadium albiot with a net in front of us. the atmosphere will be ellectrick! but of course replace seats for champions leage games which have a storming atmosphere anyway!

Why should we copy what another club in another country to accommodate the GB? Why don't they abide by the rules of our club like the rest of us? They are no different to the rest of so no preferential treatment.

I agree with you @2 but not just for the gb for all the fans that want to go mental and get celtic park buzzing. I find it hard because they're are a lot of kids were a am and you can't really go mental. 25,000 standing section with drink would be amazing! Rule is you're only allowed to wear green and white too lol. Gandalf the green

Received my letter today explaining the reasons for the relocation of sec 111. Its what many of us with a brain already know, basically the continuation of overcrowding, moshing, body surfing, lateral movement and the broken seats etc
will end up with our club losing its stadium safety certificate, meaning the stadium canny open. Its all fair enough is its not the first letter that's been sent out over the seasons. I've had my season ticket for 15 years and a few years back me and my pals moved to sec 111 just for the atmosphere as our old sec was dying of death. Was good at first, still is when there's no nonsense but we were going to ask for a move anyway, every game we go to there's about 10 wee fuds standing at our seats, then after they get told to shift, its one of the 'big leaders' from the front would come up to see why they got moved and seeing as I'm a pretty big chap I presume that's why nothing gets said. Too many persons in there now, glad of a move LUBO25

06 Aug 2013 20:13:58
Ed I will say it clear Celtic pk will be a grave yard without the green brigade and speaking to my sons who are 9 and 12 telling them that the brigade won't be ther they said they don't want to go up to see Celtic after the shock drained away and I could speak again I seem to understand ther problem they have been brought up with noise and singing and banner shows from the brigade, my youngest son said so its going to be like peterborough if so he don't wants to travel that journey but I know this will be shocking to some but the more I thought about it it made sense as I've brought them to many games down in England but Celtic is the team for them but without the green brigade I think it would be a bit of getting use too as well, I'm behind the green brigade 100 per cent and cp won't be the same, but the Celtic board might just find them selfs in a worse position than the joke across Glasgow, next year they might just get a shock were Celtic fans will show the manky mob how to not buy season books

Celtic are bigger than the GB, also I've been watching the tic for 40 years, the thunder comes and goes but I always comes back

Vambo

You don't support Celtic then. You support the Green Brigade.

You have two options, take them to see Lazio- and you'll see what happens when Clubs don't step in early- or rather than complain that the place will be silent, make some noise yourself.

Too many people are showing their true colours with this issue- too lazy to create an atmosphere.

The GB are/were fantastic- but they are not bigger than the club.

The Patient

Celtic supporters don't talk like sh!e like that . You follow Celtic not for the self important GB but for the love of your club and its history . DH

I disagree.Everyone loves the songs, banners and atmosphere but I feel they were starting to get too big for their boots.NO-ONE is bigger than the club and maybe this might be the kick up their a**es that was needed.We might see things settle down before the next home game and they will be given another chance.My worry is they do something stupid tomorrow night or against Liverpool that casts the club in a bad light, if so then there should be no way back.I loved the club before the GB started and I will continue to love the club for the rest of my life so I hope they reign it in and get back to bringing the thunder in a safe and proper manner.

Jungle Bhoy.

I can't believe there is no uproar on this site regarding the GB.

I am a Rangers man and where I don't agree with the GB and what they often stand for, I am surprised that more of you are not concerned about match day atmosphere. I may be wrong in so much that the rest of the stadium makes up for their absence, however I think they will be sorely missed and your CL games, if you make it through, will suffer.

As I say I may be wrong and i'm certain a few of you will jump on and say you couldn't give a f*ck what I think.

I hope you get stuffed tonight (lol, that is a joke )

RTID
GDog

Let's get it straight the fact is we all go to see Celtic for the love of the club, But if ther is no mediation between the club and the gb this could get very nasty and could set ripples at the club which won't settle for a long time, the way some of the gb have been treated over the past two years is disgraceful by both Celtic and the police, the way I see it is the board have ther pocket money from the cl and selling of players with a bit left over and are in a good financial position to get rid of something they see as a threat, but I will say this clear I will always be a Celtic fan and will go to paradise, but without the gb ther the place will not be the same, and another thing that has got to me over the years Celtic treat the gb with no respect but don't hesitate in making money out of the name, and using them as a back drop in ther adverts, the fact is yes ther political but can anyone say they don't agree with ther views football is political like it or not and me for one is happy to support the gb

The zombies right but before the gb celtic park was always rocking alright we are missing the competition from our dead rivals but we are celtic supporters, greatest in the UK and one of the best in Europe, gb won't be missed that much. Gandalf the green

06 Aug 2013 19:45:35
Bit disappointed celtic are waiting until tomorrow to make their move for finbogason. Looks quality and I think we need that boost after losing hooper, wanyama, Wilson and possible ambrose. Get it done wages are not an issue and they have the funds! Ps if we go out tomorrow is that Europe done or do we fall into the Europa? {Ed007's Note - We would drop down to the play-off round of the EL.}

Cheers ed! Do u think the finbogason deal will happen? {Ed007's Note - I think that it might hinge on CL qualification.}

06 Aug 2013 17:27:36
This GB thing is doing my head in. I think they did a great job creating an atmosphere in CP but lately they think they are bigger than the club. If the want to go down the legal route rhen so be it. I certainly hope celtic just give them refunds if they go down this route.

Get behind them,, self police without hidden agendas,, too many zombie comments.
Stop reading MSM misinformation.
Just have a wee think at why this is being hightlighted so much now.
Another media driven deflection?
HH the GB

@1 nail on the head mate! Of course it's MSM making a huge issue about this to deflect from the circus happening in govan! Ripping off charities not a bigger story than this? let's face it there ain't much left for the low lifes at ibrox to do now, the have ripped off social taxes, not paid social taxes, ripped off hundreds of creditors and now been caught ripping off charities! All of these stories are far bigger than the GB malarky but still the silence from MSM is quite disturbing!

06 Aug 2013 15:22:50
Why are the green brigade seeking legal advice? Does anyone agree with their course of action if so why. I think that this is pathetic and not a proportionate reaction based on real and present safety concerns. I really think they can't win. I don't think they will have the money to bring any action against celtic. But if that's the route they choose they clearly are self interested and will cost the club more money defending the action. Not exactly looking after your club is it.

Cant think what grounds they have for legal action. Tickets are issued under terms and conditions you agree to and if you break them then the tickets are withdrawn. Celtic aren't withdrawing the tickets but offering a refund or relocation. Sounds fair to me.

Hopefully derk can do something similar for now as he looks good in front of goal, if only he was on the pitch longer.

06 Aug 2013 14:53:11
I remember the days not that long ago during the mccann years before the GB existed when the atmosphere was electric and everyone participated even sitting down. I also remember not being able to see the park because of the amount of banners being held up. again before the GB. I am not saying we don't need the GB but if they are not going to play by the rules and cause the club harm then so be it, they can go and do something else on match days. The bottom line is the GB do add go the atmosphere but we shouldn't rely on them, the rest of us need to get our fingers out and keep the thunder there just like the old days even although it was only about 12 years ago!

Totally agree I said similar post yesterday. The GB are breaking safety advise and regulations which would close the stadium. The fans don't sign anymore because of the incessant drum show meaning noone else wants to sing. Away matches where the GB don't have a section there is more communal singing. Also a standing section that they are on about have been outlawed since various stadium disasters. Do the GB want to take responsibility for someone falling and bring crushed. Erm no because the club would be accountable not THEM. Get some perspective GB.

I agree with OP the green brigade do bring atmosphere but there was fantastic atmosphere before they existed its up to the other fans to keep the singing going

06 Aug 2013 13:21:56
Nothing to do with football, but I thought I'd share my excitement with you all. Not everyone is interested in technology and I respect that totally but I am, and today I got one of those new Samsung Galaxy S4 phones. I had a Sony Xperia and hated it. Everyone will have their favourite but this is definitely mine.
WOW WOW WOW!

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy {Ed001's Note - how you getting on with it? I didn't like it when I tried it, preferred my Note 2, but I only had a play, didn't get to try it over a few days to get used to it.}

I have the Galaxy S3 after having a trusty Nokia for years, it did take me a while to get used to it though.

I don't know what I would do without it now lol ~ Mrs E

Ed, it feels like I have come home! lol I had the S2 and loved it but then I decided to be a bit more adventurous and went for the Nokia Windows 8 phone. Hated it. Then got the Xperia Z. I just didn't like it. Samsung is the way to go (for me) and the S4 is just like the S2 as far as structure is concerned but a hundred times better. Again, this is just my opinion and I hope others won't feel this is now a mobile phone discussion but I was so delighted with the S4 that I felt I had to tell someone. And the Celtic family are as close to a group of great friends as it gets!

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy {Ed001's Note - glad you like it mate, just don't convince Ed007 to get one, please! I still have nightmares about the last time he had a new phone and spent 3 weeks just trying to figure out how to open the box.}

06 Aug 2013 10:07:41
Rogic van dijk and boerrigter ruled out for tomorrow think boerrigter is a massive blow although not totally unexpected on the plus side sammi and wilson passed fit so at least our away euro talisman there what you think about wilson ed i'm assuming if fit hell start but do you think hell be 100% focussed with all the stuff with forest and that {Ed007's Note - If Wilson plays I fully expect him to play as well as he can. He knows he will be moving soon and will want to help the club as much as he can before then.}

06 Aug 2013 20:33:13
You seem to be right 9.5 times out of 10 so thatll do for me ed {Ed007's Note - Cheers Graham.}

06 Aug 2013 10:05:59
Like many of you I was surprised to read yesterday about the closing of section 111 at Paradise. The colour, vibrancy and atmosphere the Green Brigade bring to games is fantastic. However, after reading the comments by both the GB and our club it is quite clear that Celtic FC have done everything they can to keep everyone happy and have been open and honest in their handling of this matter. They have even said they will look at opening it up again if they receive assurances on safety from the individuals involved. The GB, on the other hand, seem to think they can do whatever they want as self-proclaimed super fans who think they are mini-celebrities. Their hostile reaction to the club's statement with threats of legal action is a perfect demonstration of the general mood among their camp and shows the public that they really do believe they stand on a self-erected pedestal which is outside of the law and common sense.
What would they do if someone was injured or killed as part of their shenanigans? Would they accept responsibility as individuals and willingly suffer the consequences? Or would they shrug their shoulders, shuffle off and say "It's nothing to do with me mate"? I imagine it would be the latter.
So it's a big thumbs up to PL and the Board at Celtic Park. Yet another shining example of their "The club comes first" philosophy and one of which we should all be very proud.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Excellent post.
It's not a difficult decision at all. There's an Health and safety very real hazard and it MUST be shut down. Simples. Easy call.

Providing a good atmosphere by singing and chanting is ok but that doesn't come with vandalism, breakages and sectarian singing, body surfing and overcrowding and lateral movement.

You cannot justify the bad stuff by saying it comes together with the good stuff.

Finally, a poll on the issue is ridiculous. Fans opinion on this matter are of no consequence. The issue is a legal one.

The green brigade are bigger than no one. Like a drunk friend at a party, they are fun to watch and provide the entertainment, but they start to piss people off when they take it too far.

As for all the posts that say they provide atmosphere and the stadium would be dead; how about rather than sitting eating pies you create some atmosphere?

MgC

Well said MgC
I think many fans have been content to watch the GB rather than participate themselves. It's human nature though. why do something yourself when you can watch someone else do it for you?
A good call by the club and hopefully all other fans will accept some responsibility (and show some enthusiasm) for creating a terrific atmosphere at Paradise.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

06 Aug 2013 13:34:30
The GB is a small group of people. Many people want to join them in the area of 111 so they can join in the singing, and I don't blame them. THIS is the problem, not the GB. The club have walked right into this one. I think a safe standing area could have been and still could be easily achieved and managed. Then there would be a place for people, who quite rightly, do not have nor want to sit down at the football.
Football without the fans is nothing, and atmosphere brought by fans should be a high priority for all clubs. Look at what Manchester United have done, they've brought in engineers to look at ways of making the stadium 'louder'. It is something that has to be addressed in most modern football arenas, which although good looking, tend to be devoid of atmosphere.
"They think they're bigger/better than etc." Hmm or is the sentence "I think that they think they are bigger than the club"? pea hates sitting down at the football.

Well said mate I totally agree, nobody is bigger than the club.

Darrenbhoy

We need an area like dortmund behind a goal with terracing for leage/cup games also bring back drinking, albiot with a net in front of us. repace with seating for champion leage games, what's the problem?

@6 The laws of the land for a start.

MgC

06 Aug 2013 03:55:03
Psychologically the existence of the GB means people will just sit on their hands and let others do the work in terms of singing. The GB are calling the tunes. It's had an adverse affect rather than people follow the conductor they just listen and watch. So by removing then it won't suddenly stop noise it will encourage noise that previously didn't exist. Personally the drumming gets right on my tits. Reminds me too much of English World Cup games and Vuvuzelas. It's the right time to stop

06 Aug 2013 00:43:25
Literally can't believe the amount of supporters on here and on social media tearing strips off the club and Peter Lawwell over this closure of section 111.

I mean, have they not read the club statement? It couldn't be clearer we have been threatened with refusal of the renewal of our health and safety license for the stadium if they didn't act now. 190 seats broke in the last 4 games and under investigation from UEFA after Cliftonville game which will incur the club another fine.

The club had no choice! Like a bunch of typical neddy teenagers (I speak of the element who are going into that area without a seat and causing over crowding, crowd surfing etc) they have game by game went a wee bit further each time seeing how far they can push there luck until inevitably the club have had to act and they have ruined it for themselves and all the others around them. It's f*cking embarrassing.


My first experience of the Green Brigade was at a youth cup game a few years ago against Livingston. I went with my brother and wasn't expecting to walk into a youth cup game at Celtic Park and be met by around a thousand of them, drummer at the front conducting the songs. Toytown, Disco land and all the classic Celtic songs, not a single rebel tune. It was a sight to behold, amazing. They performed like that for the rest of the season and have since then played a major part in the atmosphere that Celtic park is revered for. Since then however it's as if the rules stopped being payed notice to and for some reason coming to the games getting to stand for 90 mins and sings with the drummer wasn't enough! Lateral movement, overcrowding, jumping on the seats till they are broken, smoke bombs, flares and crowd surfing? I mean crowd surfing? What the f*cks that all about. You want to crowd surf buy a f*cking ticket for T in the park and get it out your system, its a football match your at ya f@king plebs!

The argument about other teams, stadiums, sets of supporters getting away with this at other grounds and in other countries makes no difference either as the fact is they are after us over it and they mean business by the sounds of it. Like that's a big surprise in this sectarian rubbish hole of a country we live in eh! But we have to toe the line and though I'm angry to see the area closed its more anger to the punters in there for letting it happen, letting this element of wee fandans come into 111 without a ticket and ruin it for everyone else.


This was coming, and even after numerous warnings the last 4 games has seen rule breaking as bad as it has been at any point so I don't see where the big outcry and surprise from the Green Brigade comes from. Blaming Celtic football club for making sure we avoid the absolute disaster and utter embarrassment of having sections forcedly closed or worse a stadium closure for even a few home games is ridiculous and short sighted.

Members of 111 have been offered a refund on their season books so they can either come and support the club or jack it in, that's up to them however if they choose the latter it will speak volumes.

Ideally, and I don't know if there is even a possibility now but hopefully after a time out they will open up the section again, better stewarded and ensuring no one outwith that section is allowed in and we can have the thunder back because I for one will miss the sound and passion of those boys I first seen at that youth cup game a few years ago.

Stevensee88

I think Celtic have to do something about it if not the the city council will force their hand into it. There was plenty warning before it. I see a new group is trying to gain supports just singing no pyro just support the team get everyone in no ultra etc. I stand I 109 last season & saw a lot of the things that were going on in 111. Getting dragged from the GB banner right up to the back throwing about etc.

There is a good Celtic podcast HH that was on last night they had a few good topics, bit like the Clyde phone in expect its for Celtic fans. I love what the GB brought to the games and the protest last year showed they drum up the team but they really drew the line. How many fines over the last 10 years had because of GB? I'm a bit too young to remember the jungle boys but what I hear is they were going about for years then they stopped then came the GB.

Celtic aren't the only club in the wrong but we need to dirt out own house out 1st before we start to point the finger. A new group or section singing getting all the fans going then happy days.

I still stand by plc shutting then down 3 warning before it happened? Can't really complain.

Lenny

Loads of common sense in your post mate. Whilst I enjoyed (most of) the displays and the noise generated I've been concerned about the direction of the GB ever since the infamous poppy banner. Celtic is a football club, our football club, it is not a political party and has nothing to do with Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan or the Basque Country.

However the most compelling issue for me is that this section is now costing the club money in reputational damage, UEFA fines and broken seats - that's not on. Add to the numerous warnings we've been given about shutting sections or all of the stadium and it makes Celtic's action completely justified.
CBP