Celtic Banter Archive April 06 2019

 

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06 Apr 2019 22:16:32
The debate on who our next manager will be is as bad as Brexit the now. pretty
Much a 50/ 50 split but after today's game would say 70/ 30 against? Anyway so much garbage written about Lennon's Team etc etc. many a game last year under BR we were poor (at least until before the break) . the guy is doing well picking up the pieces after that rat left on the last train south! As to whether or not he will manager next season who knows but for fans to boo after todays game a thought was disgraceful! he's unbeaten since coming in! For me a cannot see the Board going for another big name,
Once bitten twice shy etc etc . NL is PL man and PL tends to get his way these days . HH.

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06 Apr 2019 23:40:32
No matter who is in place for 9 in a row they will always have my backing 100%. Wihelmus Marinus Anthonius Jansen for the 10th! The young team won't have a clue who the Legend was. His gift too us was stopping the rotten mob for 10 and signing the King of Kings!

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06 Apr 2019 23:46:30
How is it once bitten twice shy. It basically didn't cost us a penny to employ a top manager in Rogers.
Its common knowledge that NL and PL had some major run ins during the last time around so I certainly wouldn't say NL is a PL man.

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06 Apr 2019 20:11:29
Not a reaction, as I nailed my colours to the mast very early doors regarding NL taking over on an interim basis. But, of those supporting the idea of him being a permanent manager, and I ask this based on what I heard somebody asked today, a few month ago would you have swapped him for Rodgers? I know he's not long in the door, won't want to change too much at this sort of stage, but would people seriously think we would be the best we can be by appointing him going forward? I try to say this without being overdramatic as i've mocked posters the past for a few seasons for suggesting similar under BR. But under NL i'm really not sure 10IAR would happen šŸ˜Æ Just me? The footy wasn't great but it's ****in painful now.

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06 Apr 2019 20:56:52
Not going to start slagging Lennon off. My opinion though is we lacked the firepower before Xmas and we then brought in Burke and Weah to add much needed support. To go back and play the players that were struggling to score before Xmas and expect different is either plain stupid or very arrogant. No harm to NL intended as he has the club at heart.

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06 Apr 2019 21:30:17
I'm trying not to slag him of Kwaj. Club legend, aye. Man to take us forward, no. Fair point about the two forwards but even under BR I didn't think Burke was a striker. Weah I'm undecided on. He obviously can make an impact but would need to see more of his contribution over 90min.

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06 Apr 2019 21:50:09
We played our best this season with a fully fit trio in midfield, McGregor, Christie and Rogic. We had pace and plenty of intelligent movement both on and off the ball.
Lennon today was looking to get these guys much needed game time along with Benkovic and Tierney. I am happy with how things went today and I can see us getting better with these guys in the team.
Its not the end of the world not winning today, it means there is every chance we will win the league at paradise now in front of a full house. We could possibly have our day to celebrate, something the scottish league was trying to take away from us, with sevco playing before us after the split, which ment we could have won the league without actually playing.

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06 Apr 2019 22:41:12
I hate BR as much as the next fan but would be have waited till the 85 min to bring on more firepower at home to Livingston. No he would have changed the set up at about 60mins but he would have tinkered with the team to get the opening goal. But NL stays the same till 85 min wtf.

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06 Apr 2019 23:10:27
I have noticed a couple of fans are unhappy about the subs lenny made today.
After 60 minutes he takes off Benkovic who is just back from injury and brings on Hayes to get better cross balls into the box. It also gave us a better balance due to Ajar switching from left to right side of defence, with KT on left and Jozo in the middle of only 3 at the back.
After 70 minutes he takes off Rogic who again done better than last week and will get better, he was replaced with Weah which is a positive switch.
Then after 83 minutes he takes off Christie who again played well and will get sharper and replaces him with Burke who nearly and should have got the winner.
I don't see what he could have done differently, it was just one of those days and I am just happy there was not a forced sub for a change due to injury. Keep The Faith.

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06 Apr 2019 23:48:33
He could have put on a guy that's scored 17 and made 6 this season and scored over 60 in less than 3 season.
But left a proven goal scorer on the bench when we are chasing a goal.

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07 Apr 2019 00:01:42
Agree Leon, the games we don't win domestically these days we don't need to win. Over the last 3 seasons we have won EVERY must win game and I'm fully confident that will continue next Sunday, which will put us one game away from a famous Rebel Treble.

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07 Apr 2019 01:07:34
We basically played with a 3 at the back and 6 in midfield at home to Livingston and then constantly cross balls to 1 man being marked with 3 defenders!
I have said over and over again, why play 1 up front at home against teams in the bottom 6.
We have been poor this season but since Lennon has can in we have been Chronic and before Everyone starts shouting, I know we are unbeaten and miraculously we are still going for the treble but Lennon is not the way forward.

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08 Apr 2019 20:48:40
Jimtim wasnt having a go at you as your entitled to your opinion and I agree with you about NL. I was merely stating that I was not.

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06 Apr 2019
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06 Apr 2019 16:54:03
Today killed the Lennon debate stone dead. No chance he should get the job.
That line up and subs were just bizarre.

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06 Apr 2019 17:11:48
I really hope you are right Kev.

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06 Apr 2019 17:14:46
Kev

The guy is clueless. He was clueless first time round and nothing has changed.

Letā€™s hope the squad has enough about them to secure the treble but not as confident as I was 2 months ago.

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06 Apr 2019 17:32:10
Clueless in beating Barcelona but no let's remember judas who lost 7-0 to barca,7-1 to psg and 5-0 at home to psg. Judas gave us our worst results ever in europe be careful what u people wish for.

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06 Apr 2019 17:33:01
Agreed Kev but heard from a few that Michael Oneil is under serious consideration which breaks my heart. No moyes Keane Lennon or Oneil for me.

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06 Apr 2019 17:36:46
Have to agree lads. The pace of play is so slow. The tactics are Lennon and Kennedy simple as that. People going on about rogers tactics is rubbish. He gone and Lennon is in charge. They need to get this sorted and wrap up the league asap and get ready for the semi final against the dons.

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06 Apr 2019 17:46:29
I reckon if he was getting the job he would already have it, so I presume they have someone else in mind.

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06 Apr 2019 18:13:26
Mike Tyson

You have clearly had a few too many blows to the head so I will take it easy on you.

Beating Barcelona doesnā€™t make you a great manager. Just like scoring against them doesnā€™t make you a great player, remind me again what happened to Tony Watt.

The team have gone backwards massively in terms of entertainment and being clinical since Lennon took charge. 3 last minute winners needed and our record of winning every home game gone with two 0-0 draws in the last 3 home games.

I hope to god he doesnā€™t get the job permanently as he just isnā€™t good enough.

You will also notice that I didnā€™t mention anything about Rodgers, I just said I was more confident a few months ago that we could complete the treble. On current form I am worried about it.

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06 Apr 2019 18:21:19
I have to agree; but really don't want to slag the guy off too much, because the real culprit here - is Rodgers, but for whatever reason, we are really struggling for form and inspiration and it's hard-going watching us these days; although we will win the league
On the bright side we are 14 points clear; whereas we were 8 points ahead when he took over so that is a definite plus and although we have really struggled to score in recent games the defense is fairly tight and one goal victories have been enough.
However, we really have to snap out of it if the 3 x 3 is going to happen as Aberdeen will be a tougher game than expected at this rate and I would think we may need to score two or three?

I remember quite a few games before NL arrived, where we were poor against packed defenses and were too pedantic and predictable, but it's still happening and maybe the players need to take much more initiative on the park with quicker movement and slicker passing?
The manager can only do so much and the players we have are mostly experienced Internationals who have been signed for their ability; but a ridiculous lack of dead-ball quality or inability to beat a man and cut the ball back, are basic flaws in our game too often.

I know injuries haven't helped and playing with no penalty-box striker all season has been a disadvantage, but we have more than enough quality in this squad, who have done it all before- capable of much better form and we need them to stand up and be counted.
The team needs to progress and improve and I still maintain that going back for an ex-manager would be a backward step after going 'Extra Large' when RD left; we must support NL in the meantime and hope the players get a second-wind for the run-in and do the 3x3.

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06 Apr 2019 18:31:15
Would you take Moyes before Lennon.

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06 Apr 2019 17:28:04
I couldn't disagree more.
I enjoyed the game today, I thought we played okay.
There was a lot of positives to take out of the team and game.
A clean sheet and solid at the back again.
Benkovic game time, Tierney came through unscathed.
Rogic and Christie some much needed minutes.
Edouard playing 90 minutes and McGregor back to full fitness.
I can see Celtic with all our best players coming back are going to start playing the way we did in November and tear teams apart.
We still had 11 shots on target and I thought our shape was good and with a little more sharpness the goals will fly in.
I believe we are in a fantastic position to make history because our players have not played a full long season like other clubs due to our horrendous injury record.
Most of our players have had much needed rest time and I think when it counts it will start to show.

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06 Apr 2019 18:54:09
Lennon hasn't had a transfer window and is using a team quite the opposite of how he likes to play.

Lennon sides are usually physical and good from set pieces and corners

We don't have any players for that. We have players based on total possession. One dimensional, because of Rodgers.

Lennon got to last 16 with Celtic. Which is better European achievement that Rodgers ever made with Liverpool and their money.

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06 Apr 2019 19:07:49
I donā€™t think we can put this on Lennon. Our performance under the previous manager even when we won matches were awful. The brand of football we played was mind numbingly boring. Letā€™s reserve judgment for the end of the season as there is still a treble to secure. Lennon still has my vote up to now. One player Iā€™m starting to have doubts about is Burke. That miss in injury time was incredible šŸ™ˆ.

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06 Apr 2019 19:13:57
Celtic fans need to calm down, Lennon will win us 10 in a row.
Plenty of times this season under Brendan we never scored and never looked like scoring because he wouldn't change anything. No high balls, no putting the big men up, everything stayed the same.
Since Lennon came in I always feel we are going to score, even if it is the last kick of the game because he will throw caution to the wind.
Today we had 11 shots on target and when we beat Livi 3-1 in the first game of the season we only had 8 shots on target.
But that's football we can't win all the time but I can see the big picture and I am happy with our best players gradually getting fitter.

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06 Apr 2019 19:48:04
Am sorry but physical good from set piece teams is not the way we should be looking to play and isnā€™t the correct way to play thatā€™s ok for a team/ club thatā€™s limited we should be looking to play teams off the pitch.

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06 Apr 2019 20:31:02
iceman if you are happy with that drivel today then you are in for a long season next year. that was clueless today, wee griff would have been better today than eddy. we desperately need a real No9.that sort of play doesn't suit eddy he needs room and as we seen last week he will destroy teams.

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06 Apr 2019 21:00:38
Robroy1967 I never at any point mentioned I was happy with the performance today. My point was we canā€™t pin the blame on Lennon for it. If weā€™re all honest the performance levels of the team all season have been very poor. You can literally count on one hand the amount of decent performances we have produced this season. I have said on previous threads there are names out there I would take before Lenny (Rose, Benitez, Martinez etc although Iā€™m not sure those names are realistic) but there are also names being mentioned where I would much rather Lenny got the job ahead of these (Clark, neal, Oā€™Neil) . We donā€™t know where the boards heads are at. We shall see.

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06 Apr 2019 21:43:45
iceman i stand corrected. i like you, want to see change but only if it is going to mean PROGRESS.

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06 Apr 2019 22:47:33
Lennon is not clueless. Would never say that.
He's probably what I'd call a say pair of hands but I want new ideas not same old same old.

People try to use Lennon beating Barcelona and Rogers losing heavily against them bust forget the took 6 of a Lennon team as well.

His line up and subs today was bizarre and clearly didn't work.

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{Ed007's Note - I never seen the game today, Kev but I see we had 73% possession, 18 shots at goal with 11 on target to their 1 so it sounds like it's the same old problem of not putting our chances away. Going by the stats we could have just as easily won by 3 or 4. With 18 shots at goal it doesn't sound as if we didn't create - the other same old story for the last 18 months.}

07 Apr 2019 02:25:44
The Livingston keeper was outstanding today. Our fans never really credit others

Also campsie Bhoy? The right way to play?

Often long balls are called "ignorant" but the only ignorance is people who think there is only one way to play football.

Our best recent era was with long and direct play with a huge physical element.

You tell me our open possession sides who have done well?

Rodgers? Deila? Mowbray? All embarrassed in Europe.

What about the other mob? Le guen? Caixinha?

Ok let's look at managers who either played physical or defensive.

O'Neill, Strachan, Walter Smith even Lennon got us to last 16 playing more tight.

What would you prefer really?

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07 Apr 2019 08:27:26
Lennon got us doings in Europe and Smith parked the bus. If your happy playing long balls or hoping for a corner or free kick into the box then fine mate thatā€™s your opinion.
Some of the fball we played under BR was excellent also RD does not get enough credit for a lot of what he was trying to implement! Iā€™m for getting the ball forward quickly and trying to hurt teams that way but Lennon is not the man to take us forward his ideas are backwards and his selections have always been weird.

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07 Apr 2019 00:31:33
That's my point with the subs ed. We left a proven goal scorer on the bench. Love him or not Sinclair gets goals.

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{Ed007's Note - I noticed Tesla mention it and how many times on the live chat have we spoken about how average opposition 'keepers seem to have a worldly performance whenever they play us?}

07 Apr 2019 11:25:37
Everyone always try and lift there game against us ed. Wouldn't be surprised if livi got skepted in their next game.

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{Ed007's Note - That and the fact we've struggled to break down teams who park the bus for the past 18 months or so. }

07 Apr 2019 13:10:00
Campsie I'd love to play like Barcelona and skelp teams in Europe and domestically

But I'm living in the real world. We don't spend any money. Even cash rich side who try to be open have crashed and burned.

It's takes a very very high level of player to play so open.

Say what you want about other styles but simple fact is O'Neill got us to European final.

Walter Smith got them toa European final.

Lennon and Strachan got us to last 16 3 times between them.

I'd rather have those achievements than leaking goals

Even sides like Astana were putting goals past us at ease. Same with beer Sheva.

The board have to take responsibility also. We have gone miles backwards in quality of individual player.

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06 Apr 2019 16:04:39
Yet another 10-man defense at Celtic Park and a huff-n-puff first half, with nothing to show.
Could have had one or two, but to be honest we have created very little, considering possession.
I know we had games like this before NL, but apart from the Sevco game, when it mattered;
It's been a while since we actually played like we can do and took advantage of the massive gap in class between us and the rest of the SPL, (especially the bottom half) with pace, flair and conviction. Maybe it's a sign of the long campaign, the injuries and of course the recent upheaval?
Anyway; let's hope for a better more productive second half and maybe one hand on the trophy, before their game tomorrow?

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06 Apr 2019 14:41:26
Enjoyed watching that rat Levein's Lot getting gubbed by Hibs; especially after their customary lying down to Sevco on Wednesday.
Hibs worked hard but were nothing special, all the same, but Hearts once again proved that they only seem to give 100% against teams in green/ white - and still get beat lol
The coconut was not a shock, as there was 'bounty' be controversy.

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06 Apr 2019 14:54:52
I remember earlier in the season we were struggling to score at home to Aberdeen and hearts were 2 up, we were looking at going 9 points behind them. Then Sinclairs cheeky back heel won that game and we then kicked on from then.
If we win today we can go 29 points ahead of a team which could stand between us winning a historic treble treble. Massive turnaround. Good patter Once a Bhoy.

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06 Apr 2019 13:33:31
Let's hope there's no kids at Tynecastle allergic to coconut... šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™

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06 Apr 2019 14:04:45
What have I missed?

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{Ed007's Note - There's been smoke bombs and a coconut thrown onto the pitch during the Edinburgh Derby.}

06 Apr 2019 14:36:24
As long as nobody smiled or celebrated then itā€™s bad but not as bad as it couldā€™ve been? Smoke bombs and coconuts. itā€™s all Scott Browns fault šŸ’£ šŸ„„šŸ˜‚āš½ļø.

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06 Apr 2019 14:46:10
Does the coconut have any significance or did someone bring it as a half time snack!? lol.

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06 Apr 2019 15:51:57
They'd never seen wan before and thought it was an orange in disguise.

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07 Apr 2019 23:11:24
The SPL hierarchy have been informed by the CURRENT rangers manager Slippy G who was at the game and saw Broony throw the Coconut in an attempt to hit Craig Levin for the no show against the wrtp mob and will be adding it to the already trumped up charges he will be getting banned for.

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06 Apr 2019 09:19:31
Just a general comment.
Ajer is showing himself to be a decent player recently. I know he has been getting a lot of flak from some fans but the the lad is young and will get significantly better. HH.

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06 Apr 2019 10:30:49
He was a stand-out against Sevco and has been improving all the time. One of the reasons I would prefer better manager in the summer is to continue the coaching and development of all our young talent like Kris, to their full potential - and then we will have some team.

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06 Apr 2019 10:38:13
I wouldn't say Ajar is showing to be a decent player recently, he has always been a great player who has turned into a colossal for Celtic this season.
In an earlier post this season I noticed with Ajar in the team Celtic went 12 hours without conceding a goal whilst Ajar was on the pitch, in between him being injured.
Thats when I started paying particular attention to the big man because the statistics don't lie.
He has played part in 36 games this season for Celtic all not 90 minutes.
Ajar has played almost 45 hours for Celtic this season and whilst he was on the pitch we have only conceded 14 goals, which is one goal conceded in over 3 hours of football.
Counting the 18 games Ajar has missed and the goals conceded before he took to the field of play we have let in 20 goals without him which is more than a goal a game.
In summary this season with Ajar in the team Celtic have conceded a goal every 190 minutes and with Ajar out the team we are conceding a goal in half that time.

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06 Apr 2019 11:49:45
He looks a great player.
Gets a bit ā€˜involvedā€™ at times but I like that. Sometimes you see him get pumped and and you can tell heā€™s going to get a yellow. But time will sort that.

How long is his contract?

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06 Apr 2019 12:35:39
He's definitely looking the part the one thing big virg had was long range passing the big man needs to work on that.

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06 Apr 2019 13:45:17
I never lost faith in the bhoy, he's showed all the attributes of a top class CB, only game time and experience are going to help him, he will be our 1st choice CB for years to come, he will get caught out from time to time but he will learn like he has been for the past few seasons, I personally can't wait to see how good he will be in a couple of years time as he's already a top quality defender right now.

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06 Apr 2019 00:05:28
Extremely disappointed in some of the reactions to my post about uncontrolled use of pyrotechnics in a crowded area. It's clear that a number of you failed to read it properly and chose to post a knee jerk reaction. That suggests a level of intolerance that I wouldn't expect at Celtic but maybe we're not as inclusive as I previously thought we were. Perhaps some of you would be happy to go back to the days of fights breaking out as people pish down the back of others legs and wading through a sea of cans and bottles as you leave the stadium?

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06 Apr 2019 08:30:44
Daft post.

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06 Apr 2019 09:26:56
COYBIG,
I suspect you are disappointed because so many people did not agree with your suggestion.
Pyrotechnics fail sometimes and just because someone thinks its great fun - some one else may get injured.
In addition, not all of us enjoy the smoke wafting across and you cannot control the breeze.
The only controlled area I would accept is a sealed booth where the person can let off as many of those pyrotechnics as he wishes and enjoy the green smoke and any failure which may occur.
Your comment regarding bottles, cans and pee is not even worthy of a response I find it so silly.

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06 Apr 2019 09:36:52
Eff sake yet right COYBIG just don't take them to the game. it's a nonsense more bother than there worth a can't remember coming home from a game and talking about the pyros total waste of time and money.

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06 Apr 2019 10:17:22
I wasnā€™t aware that Iā€™d made a suggestion, Tim. You might also notice, if you read all the posts, that I wasnā€™t the one who brought up the bottles, cans and pish. I What disappointed me were the comments that would appear to suggest intolerance to what Stevie referred to as the snowflake generation. Stevie you mentioned standing on beer crates back in the day. I remember stuff like that as well. When I started going regularly, Celtic had average home attendances of 22 to 23 thousand. There were very few women at the games and the few that went had to queue for ages to get into the woefully inadequate toilet facilities at the end of the jungle. Bizarrely, I do look back on it fondly and reminisce with my friends at times but is that really what we aspire to now? Wee Fergus came in and changed all that and created the conditions that allowed us to become the dominant force in Scottish football. We are a modern innovative football club, we have the only safe standing section in the country. We have an atmosphere that is the envy of clubs throughout Europe. Weā€™ve done that by accommodation groups like the Green Brigade within a stadium that also caters for families, not by creating an atmosphere that excludes people because theyā€™re not tough enough or not willing to accept an unwelcoming environment.

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06 Apr 2019 11:12:10
You should have your pointless little firework party šŸŽ‰ before you go to the match.

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06 Apr 2019 13:14:18
COYBIG I never said standing on beer crates and dodging cans of piss is what we aspire to nowadays, I was making a comparison of attending games then and now, I was talking about what 8 year olds were subject to then at games compared to now. Do you not think football grounds are more family friendly nowadays? Yet you still complain that your little one gets frightened of the disco lights and a couple of firecrackers. There is no doubt in my mind that many parents nowadays over protect their little darlings. There has always been things going on at matches that doesn't please all, when I was a youngster it was things like mentioned above, nowadays it's smoke bombs and firecrackers. It's life my friend, you can't expect everyone in a huge crowd to behave impeccably . If you want to wrap your little one up in cotton wool and not let her witness real life then that's your choice. For the record there is a wee guy of around 8 and a young girl of around 10 that sit with their dad near me and they love all the smokies and explosions, everyone to their own.

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06 Apr 2019 18:30:59
Stevie, youā€™re right about some parents overprotecting their kids but it was my daughter who made the decision not to go back to European games, not me. She made her decision about European nights because she had the freedom to make that choice. Weā€™ll still go to Saturday afternoon games and no one will be inconvenienced by her decision. However, if a small number of fans decide they want to let off fireworks in a random, uncontrolled manner, there will almost certainly be other fans inconvenienced by that and probably players, managers, stewards and police as well. Ideally, Iā€™d prefer to not have them at all but if the compromise is to have them in a designated area with some level of control about when they can be used, I wouldnā€™t argue with that.

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06 Apr 2019 19:02:18
Your daughter is a kid. Other kids might also love the bangers and noise etc. It's not all about your wean mate.

As for your dig at the old jungle atmosphere. I'd bring that back any day of the week.

Put it this way what would you rather experience, a Galatasaray fenerbahce derby?

Or a man city man Utd derby at the silent Etihad?

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