Celtic Banter Archive September 05 2018

 

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05 Sep 2018 22:54:19
Many of our negative fans blame Lawwell for all the woes at Celtic .
Facts are Lawell is carrying out the will and the budget set by the Board and he has done a damn good job of it . He has surprised us often by how much he can get for players who insisted on moving on and also regularly brings in players at prices that appear very cheap.

What effects our club the most is the angry self seeking fans by their negative posts. On Celtic forums or by their abuse from our stands, both destroy some of our players confidence and certainly show no sign that they are Celtic supporters and support all the players .
It's amazing how well Boyata is playing, by playing in the World Cup he found his confidence and has played superbly in his 3 games . He looks the real deal as a centre half, we never seen that form before as Boyata had many fools giving him shoite.

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06 Sep 2018 01:37:35
Completely agree Chris. Despite the size of our club, our opportunities to generate revenue are severely hampered by the fact that we operate in a league outwith the elite club of countries who benefit from UEFA and the television companies vision of the future of football. Celtic nevertheless punch above our weight both on and off the field and Peter Lawell has overseen that performance for the last 15 years. He’s as important to Celtic as BR in my opinion.

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06 Sep 2018 01:43:19
Another point regarding ‘fools giving him ‘shoite’. I’m continually hearing people criticising our defence generally. We had three defenders playing in the World Cup in the summer, two of whom made the last eight. There are probably very few teams in the world that are in that position and none of those players are even our best defender.

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06 Sep 2018 06:56:53
I can't really see how having a grumble "effects your club the most. " Even the weather effects the club more than that.

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06 Sep 2018 07:21:55
Yip it's all those big bad Celtic fans fault. The one's who pay to watch their team. Follow them regardless of any mistakes made.

It was our fault Boyata and Dembele spat the dummy out.
It was our fault we had a nightmare in the transfer market.

If you want to be a board apologists fair enough but don't blame the fans.

Celtic plc are only babysitting Celtic it's our club and we have every right to question them. Some have a cheek saying the people are gullible.

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06 Sep 2018 09:19:36
On the Boyata front, I've heard his Agent was the main instigator in trying to get Boyata to leave. He was badly adviced and is looking for a new Agent. Yes in doesn't take away his part in the Saga but if he keeps playing the way he has, I'll be be more than happy if he signs a new contract.
PS I hate International Breaks!

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06 Sep 2018 14:40:41
one win against a terrible hun side and all of a sudden Lawwell is god again?

It's like Kim Jong-Un, the guy can do no wrong.

Lets just totally gloss over the fact that if "they" didn't die, Lawwell could not afford to underspend and still win the league.

For example we would have lost the league last season in which we were poor. Lennon done well for us but was still lucky after they died. Deila as well.

Lawwell took over in 2003, they died in 2011. In those 9 seasons Celtic won 5 titles. They won 4.

They had just won 3 titles in a row against us before going bust. Lawwell had lost the grip on domestic dominance built on the Oneill era.

These are just facts, so anyone trying to argue with them is just at it.

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06 Sep 2018 16:48:12
There is no Doubt Lawwell has done great for our club and is still doing a great job for our club but in my opinion negotiating to bring in payers he is not good at and IMO he should take a step to the side on that matter and give it to some one ealse.

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06 Sep 2018 17:05:49
Tesla369 in those 9 years your banging on about it's been discovered that rangers had been using illegal tax avoidance schemes and would not have been able to compete with us without them.

They're chairman and manager's all admitted to that.

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06 Sep 2018 17:46:16
That’s complete nonsense Chris, the fact remains that Celtic have an enormous amount of money in the bank, are making record breaking profits and sponsorship deals, selling players for fortunes.
The deficiencies in defence has been there for years, and I don’t want to see £m in bank or profits, I want to see good football on the park.

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06 Sep 2018 17:49:11
Things are what they are. Surely we have all made mistakes Boyatas mistake was employing a greedy greedy agent who wrongly advised him. He apologised. With all that has gone on yes we expected things differently however things don't always go to plan. I have ad feeling that no matter what we had done if different some folk would still find stuff to complain about, it's some people's nature and of course their right to voice their concerns.

It would be good though putting all different opinions aside if for the short term we all just supported the team, if BR puts them on the park that's good enough for me. BR and the board inc Lawell have given us what we have had over the last two seasons let's not be so quick to forget.

Even then some were still very very vocal about things they were unhappy about after a double treble. It's fair to say I think some criticism is way over the top but that's just my opinion which is in no way more valid than those who disagree. We are all after all Celtic supporters faithful through and through.

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06 Sep 2018 19:17:47
Does everyone that's shouting about deficiencies in defence realise that we have signed 4 defenders and 2 goalkeepers in 2 years. The reason we have deficiencies in defence lie at the gaffer and the recruitment teams door.

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06 Sep 2018 20:04:44
Sitting here on my balcony on my mid season break😎 and nothing changes, Teslas still spouting Shiite. Why did they die? Does it not enter your head they died trying to match us on the park I. e spending money they didn't have between 2003 and 2012.

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06 Sep 2018 20:30:49
I’ve had no issue with Lawell, the board, the manager or anyone else at the club whether it was before or after the Sevco game. Making a profit is a good thing. Having cash reserves is also a good thing. The concept of spending money because you’ve got it is akin to a wee boy going into a sweet shop, putting all his money on the counter and asking the shopkeeper what he can get for that. Rangers had this approach to running their club/ company and it didn’t end well. To suggest that a club who has just won every domestic trophy put in front of them for the last two years and has just broken their incoming and outgoing transfer records and has allegedly refused offers in excess of £10M for several of their players, has a problem with their recruitment is just fekin ridiculous. There has been a ridiculous media campaign ever since slippy arrived in Glasgow and whether or not you read the Scottish press or not, everyone comes into contact with those that do and when you hear this nonsense being regurgitated day after day, the more gullible among us start to believe it and the lie gathers momentum. Celtic are in great shape and PL and the board are to be congratulated for that.

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06 Sep 2018 21:01:09
Well said COYBIG 👏👏.

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06 Sep 2018 22:28:48
Stevie are you claiming Lawwell has done a good job this season?

despite the fact that we have downsized to the point we can't even beat AEK Athens who have a terrible budget in comparison.

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06 Sep 2018 22:37:20
I'm hoping the game last week gave the team a reset. We looked sharp early pre season. The media and club troubles took a sharpness from us when we needed it. We should of moved more on in this window fringe player wise. Should of addressed problem areas quicker. We have made some very capable additions but i think we could of and should of been more aggressive. The facts are that even our fringe players are starters for other teams in the division. Which is fine. It's not pushing forward and bringing the 4players that will keep the first 11 on their toes. Eddy is a starter. Benkovic could be. The rest are good back ups that will do us a turn. I really rate mulumbu and Morgan looked exciting but bar injuries I can't see them as first picks if our cms and wingers are on it. I'm a greedy b@st##d but my heart is in the right place and I'm not alone in my thinking. The lads that are here have my full backing and there will be a hunger in the squad to push on, of that I'm sure.

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07 Sep 2018 00:11:37
What is AEK Athens budget, Tesla?

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07 Sep 2018 00:28:02
Tesla, only a fool would judge a CEO over a club's transfers over one season . Also P L doesn't do the whole work regarding transfers . At least 2 or 3 other people at Celtic have a major role in getting players in .
John McGinn is probably the player most people think of when they are considering the transfer window just past . Now I am led to believe that Petrie the Hibs Chairman vowed that PL at Celtic would never sign another player after P L signed Bains from Dundee when he was already on loan to Hibs .
Sometimes there can be a reason why certain things don't happen . All I know that if we really started protesting about wanting P L out, we as a club would be weaker, there is strength in unity . Of course we want improvement, we should try to improve the whole club.

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07 Sep 2018 05:42:37
COYBIG. that is perhaps the best analogy with kids in a sweetie shop. We have started to become like our neighbours in that we are demanding what actually might be not there. Two trebles, still in europe, in perhaps a competition where we don't face a 500 mill strike force and can compete. Defence failure is definitely a mystery to me, but their stevie g train is like a politicians soundbite. substanceless.

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07 Sep 2018 11:03:42
Name the 4 defenders and 2 goal keepers kev, as well as fees.
Some signings don’t work out, but your thinking is we just stick with the dross, there has been plenty money brought in that more than covers the bad buys that have been made.

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07 Sep 2018 11:36:40
I’m afraid I don’t buy the defence failure line. Yes we have lost goals very cheaply in some games, mainly in Europe it has to be said where sadly there is no longer a level playing field but I’ll concede we have lost a couple of howlers in domestic competition as well. The point is that every team at every level loses cheap goals at times, Slippy G will testify to that. I make no apology for harking back once again to the fact that three separate international managers consider our defenders good enough to play at a World Cup so I think there may be substantial room for debate about how strong/ weak they are. As far as the Stevie G revolution goes, this is just comedy gold. As you mention Bribhoy, sound bites and unsubstantiated nonsense printed and re-printed by lazy talentless hacks are being lapped up by the persons who are so desperate for anybody to come in and be their saviour that they’ll believe almost anything and ignore all the really serious problems that exist at the club/ company, and these problems aren’t just going to go away. There are more good times ahead.

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07 Sep 2018 15:12:13
Place is full of board apologists.

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07 Sep 2018 18:55:29
I have never come across a sane person who is a Board apologist .
I have frequently came across persons who blame board members for all Celtic woes .
Those of us who were born in the '40's 50's 60's or 70's are fully aware off what
Fergus Mc Cann achieved with Celtic, idiots booed Mr McCann and actually disgraced the good name of the Celtic supporters . McCann took over the club when Scotland's anti Celtic Society tried to close us down and built the club stadium and team t the best in the Country . Thankfully he is now feted by everyone connected to Celtic as one of Celtic's all time greats.

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07 Sep 2018 20:32:15
Yeah what a hero walking away with millions of the Celtic fans money. Mind you he's a massive Celtic man he's at the games all the time.

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07 Sep 2018 21:24:13
Happyhoopy didn't some posters on here think u were a Rangers2012 fan?
Of course Happy hoopy knows plenty of Celtic supporters living in Canada and aged between late 70's or early 80's who attend Celtic home games on a regular basis.

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07 Sep 2018 21:39:39
Yeah he's been in Canada all his life and always been that age. He was a member of the same supporters bus my uncle run in Croy. Very rarely went to games. Left owing them money.

Yeah I have been accused of being a support of the dark side. As I've said I will meet anyone at any game and prove my Celtic credentials.

You mentioned people remember what Fergus done. If he had built the training ground which he said would happen if all targets were meet I wouldn't begrudge him. All targets were meet no training.

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05 Sep 2018
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Ntcham Analysis

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05 Sep 2018 17:35:14
One for Tim . sevco trophy rooms been broken into the polis are looking for 2 men way a carpet . al get ma coat.

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05 Sep 2018 17:59:16
I’ve called you a taxi. That jokes aulder than my granda who died 30 years ago. :)

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05 Sep 2018 19:18:22
Straight out the Tim joke book.

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05 Sep 2018 13:59:59
Anybody see the boy devlins sending off killie striker dives Thomson gets it wrong red card not rescinded he should have stuck a blue tap Ian he'd have been fine.

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05 Sep 2018 09:39:54
Ed, was wondering if you could help me out with a little bit of info? Do you have anything about The Hills of Donegal Celtic Supporters meeting in Bundoran next week or the week after?
I have a friend of mine who is going home to Derry for the first time in almost 40 yrs next week, he will go to Bundoran as it is where our families spent all of our summer holidays in Rooneys Caravan park and wants to show his family. I was trying to get info on this years event but can't find anything, just to give him the dates and activities.

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{Ed007's Note - Have a look at this mate: https://goo.gl/5WMH4d

05 Sep 2018 15:46:26
Thanks Ed, the server address cannot be found, so I can't open, will keep on trying, it doesn't appear on the Bundoran tourist board site so not sure if it's even on this year.

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{Ed007's Note - Sorry about that 👍
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06 Sep 2018 17:47:13
I see your mates band are playing there ed, looks like a belter. I'd love to go over for that with the bhoys. Am going to look into it, that's one place in Ireland I've never been. Some of my mates went years ago with the celtic roadshow and loved it.

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07 Sep 2018 00:29:14
Surely that's last year's programme.

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07 Sep 2018 08:32:42
Haha well spotted chris.

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05 Sep 2018 11:22:31
Jesus ajer has said he's pit 10 kilos on since coming back fae Kilmarnock.

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{Ed007's Note - Is Jesus Ajer, Kris' brother?

05 Sep 2018 12:27:45
Oh deary me Ed.

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05 Sep 2018 14:24:13
That was poor ed 🤦‍♂️.

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{Ed007's Note - Aye, your grammar and punctuation! 😉

05 Sep 2018 16:22:11
Here is lucky this phone corrects most of my spelling mistakes never mind my grammar and punctuation.

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{Ed007's Note - Where? 😂

05 Sep 2018 19:27:02
Whit the feck is a Kilo?

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{Ed007's Note - Depends if you want cooncil or prop mate.}

05 Sep 2018 20:26:43
Ed 😂👍☘️.

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06 Sep 2018 08:52:46
U can get 50/ 50 now. It's like business class on an easyJet plane. 😂.

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06 Sep 2018 12:58:45
Get charged extra for same but you get a ticket with a fancy name. will never understand. Sure I must have encountered a 50 50 pint before where half of it must have been piss. 😂😂.

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06 Sep 2018 15:15:00
A thought a 50 50 pint was snakebite, can remember drinking that in the old scruffy murphys in Coatbridge on a Saturday nite while the blarney pilgrims played. Now that's a band I wish were still going. Those were the days, school Monday to Friday then scruffys at the weekend.

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05 Sep 2018 10:16:22
Any idea when Morgan will be back can’t wait to see what the lad can do?

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05 Sep 2018 10:59:05
Looking forward to seeing the kid. Got a feeling when he's up to speed he will a real asset.

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05 Sep 2018 16:25:45
If Rogic doesn't start having more influence on games I can see CalMac being deployed as a No. 10 and Morgan taking the LW position.

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05 Sep 2018 16:55:02
It was a wee operation seemingly. Thought the boy looked great when he came on in that qualifier. Can’t believe Arzani is left out of the EL squad. Another Lawell signing, maybe Rogers has said enough.

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05 Sep 2018 18:22:48
Magic if he was just a lawell signing why did Rogers phone the bhoy to persuade him to sign for us?

It was explained today why he's not in the squad.
He's not ready yet.

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05 Sep 2018 22:36:25
It seems odd he could make the Aussie World Cup squad but not our 42 man squad for EL? BR did say the “club” identified him so maybe it is a message. If BR wanted him signed he would be in the squad. Kouassi is in it?

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07 Sep 2018 18:59:37
Are we looking for a problem and dissent where not exists .
We are not in that bad a place, the glass is half full.

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05 Sep 2018 07:49:57
Time for Charlie to reign it in, was my idol growing up but some of the stuff he's coming away with is nonsense. on the back of saying sevco are improving and all the Stevie g nonsense, he's now criticizing a lap of honour, for me it was more about all the guff that had been said and written on the build up to the game from Charlie himself, think the players felt relieved but it just seems Charlie has a pop whenever he can maybe he's keeping in line with his sky pay masters.

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05 Sep 2018 09:07:40
Mally this clown is incapable of keeping his mouth shut about us, and it’s never anything other than having a pop at us! Said it before and I’ll say it again, it boils ma blood that he once wore our top and anything he did when he was playing for us disappeared a long time ago! He’s actually worse than a person in my eyes! your kris boyds mccoists raes McCulloch have digs and open there gubs because it kills them that we’re so dominant! But this scumbag who ED said is a massive Celtic fan doesn’t have that exuse! Hate is a really strong word to use but this can't brings out an anger in me every time I see his face or god forbid actually listen to his voice and the utter shoite he spouts! Said on here before I wouldn’t let him in the door of park head ever again, and I mean ever! We have to listen to English run our game down constantly, and this clown is worse than the lot of them! Sorry for the rant lads lol.

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05 Sep 2018 09:47:41
@Lh88 he is the same as Davie Provan. Seems to be if your an ex Celt you must wear blue tinted specs to get a job on Sky. The sky money must mean more to these guys than their “love” of the club. Sevco seam to be the favourite down there just now coz of greety g. But don’t worry if his great record keeps up he’ll be gone by Christmas HH🍀🍀.

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05 Sep 2018 10:12:10
Bhoys a for one don't want him to wax lyrical about us for the sake of it. but the last 2 years has been near perfect domestically. and this year haven just started and he's banging on about being second and looking up at hearts it's just garbage at least big Sutton backs us up but also gives us it if it's deserved. i've lost all respect for the man and as av said absolutely loved him as a player but am finished with him . clown.

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05 Sep 2018 10:12:26
They took their 30 pieces of silver and should never be allowed to back near our ground never mind in it.

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05 Sep 2018 10:40:00
I have a couple of points to make, one of which Kev83 has already hinted at.

The first point is Charlie Nicholas has very low intelligence and his insight into football is severely lacking as a result. Fo this reason alone, his opinion is not worth listening to, unless you like listening to cliches or factually incorrect statements.

The second point is about how the systsem works in Scotland. Rangers have high up people in the media on their payroll and spend a lot of money trying to paint themselves in a good light and us in a bad light. Charlie Nicholas, Davie Provan, Murdo McLeod and Mark Wilson are just some of our ex players who are on that payroll. As Kev said, they have taken their 30 pieces of silver and are happy to put us down so they can get their next pay cheque. This is another reason you are best ignoring anything that comes out their mouths.

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05 Sep 2018 11:11:06
"What about you Jeff? " Muppet!

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05 Sep 2018 11:36:18
Raw i take everythi g he says with a pinch of salt a mean we're 4 or 5 games in and he's wittering on about hearts being top when everyone and there granny knows not for one min does Charlie think that hearts will win the league. he sounds like he has an agenda something happened we don't know about and even then am stretching.

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05 Sep 2018 12:21:42
@Mally - He does have an agenda, his agenda is to get paid by his Rangers' paymasters.

He will get contacted by someone like Jim Traynor, who will say Charlie we are sending you a script, which we need you to say on air and we will send your cheque once its done. Charlie, will say no problem Jim just send the script when its ready and I'll get it done.

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{Ed007's Note - That's just nonsense, RAW.}

05 Sep 2018 13:25:45
They’re just playing the media game of trying to be controversial. Facts disappear quickly, controversy keeps their “ profile” up a wee bit longer.

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05 Sep 2018 14:28:24
Seems it all stems back to when Martin O'Neill came in.
Guy like Nicholas were just wandering in and out training and dressing rooms when they felt like it.
Oneill thought there were to many leaks about what was happening behind closed door, so he banned them all.
Told them to stick to the hospitality areas.

Heard that a few times but could be Chinese whispers.

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05 Sep 2018 15:05:05
So Ed, you don't think ex Celtic players are on Level 5's payroll?

Granted the scenario I outlined may not be the exact way it is done but level 5 do pay ex Celtic players to speak out against Celtic.

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{Ed007's Note - I never said that but Charlie Nicholas, no he isn't on Level 5's payroll. MacLeod and Wilson are and I don't think Provan is, I've no idea what his problem but I suspect he's just a miserable sod about everything Celtic - we've got people on here who are the same, who always post negativity and try to hijack & twist threads to a negative discussion.
Nicholas huff started when Tommy Burns/Fergus McCann released him after the '95 Cup Final. Remember Macari let Nicholas go after the end of season 93/94 only for Tommy Burns to resign him a few weeks later on a two-year deal, which would take Nicholas up to his planned retirement, that was ideal as he had always wanted to finish his career at Celtic. Nicholas was extremely disappointed and angry about being dropped for the '95 Cup Final against Airdrie and his subsequent release that summer - a year early.
After that there was the issue under MON about the access ex-players had to certain areas or departments at the Club, especially the ones who had media jobs or connections.}

05 Sep 2018 16:43:50
I don't take much notice of any of the pundits particularely the ones on Sky.
They nearly always base their opinions on how much a team spends and nothing else. They were all saying at the start of the season that West ham would finish quite high up because they spent about £100m on their squad, now they are scratching their heads because they have lost their first four games.
Liverpool finished second behind Man City last season and these same pundits think that as they have spent £150m in the summer they will reduce the points gap between them and City. To think that they are paid absolute fortunes to come up with this.

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{Ed007's Note - But they're speaking a language that the majority of supporters speak as well, the more money you spend the better your team is, and how a player is automatically judged by what he cost. Yet wiser people - like us on here 😋 - know that's not necessarily true.
If every team has no money to spend it comes down to the coach/manager, his training, tactics and formations etc, but the same happens in England where every club has stupid money to start with, it a then also comes down to the coach/manager, his training, tactics and formations etc.
Could Pep Guardiola come up here with say Accies and win the league while sticking to the Accies budget? Not a chance in hell but neither could Martin Canning manage Man City and win the Pub League, even with their budget.}

05 Sep 2018 17:39:56
What was that about MON ex players, Ed? Can't remember reading/ hearing about that?

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{Ed007's Note - MON had an issue with the amount of access ex-players had to certain areas or departments at the Club, especially the ones who worked in the media.}

05 Sep 2018 18:22:05
Ok, I thought he might of had a run in with someone in particular. cheers.

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{Ed007's Note - No mate it was in general, thinking back now could that have affected Andy Walker as well?}

05 Sep 2018 18:29:22
The 2 of tham are prob raging that they never got asked to do any of the hospitality or stadium tours.

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05 Sep 2018 18:51:21
Charlie Nicholas and his ego would of done the same thing if he played for Celtic today. I can't take to him, he seems to have a massive chip on his shoulder about anything and everything. I suspect though his main gripe about life is the wages players are earning today compared to what he was earning.

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05 Sep 2018 18:27:15
Though that was something to do with it ed.
Can always mind most of the leaks stopped after that.

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