Celtic Banter Archive November 05 2020

 

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05 Nov 2020 23:13:28
I'm kinda glad we got horsed 4-1 tonight rather than losing narrowly or drawing and papering over the cracks, at least this way somethings got to give and Sunday will give an idea on how the rest of the season will pan out. Lose again and it proves the players have chucked it and don't care, come out and put on a performance then there's hope. The rest of EL games should be used to experiment giving Turnbull, Soro, Klimala etc game time.

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05 Nov 2020 23:19:05
I said this during the live chat, The semi against Aberdeen papered over the cracks. Aberdeen got past our backline 17 times at the weekend and didn't have the quality to hit a man if that was Rangers with Barasic or Tavener they'd have put a right few past us.

I don't know the best course of action but i can't see Lennon getting us out of this mess.

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05 Nov 2020 23:27:11
Agree steve. Use these players for rest of Europea league. They need games to settle in. Why we signed them and they only get 5 mins a game at the end. How can coaching staff see what players can do in 5mins . Also would drop Duffy and play Welsh.

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05 Nov 2020 23:27:31
It's mental to be typing this but I'm genuinely not even surprised that they managed to batter 4 past us tonight. This season has been a complete cluster from start to finish. We're still in touching distance in the league purely because our squad is so much better and expensive than the teams we play most weeks. Sitting here absolutely scunnered 3 months into the biggest season in our history.

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05 Nov 2020 23:27:44
The whole Europa should have been that opportunity. what does it say about these guys chances if players that don't want to stay play over them. They must wonder what the point is.

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05 Nov 2020 23:28:33
The usually in the know Stephen McGowan has tweeted that Lennon is now in the Tony Mowbray territory when Celtic lost 4-0 at St. Mirren in 2010.
That can’t be good news for Lennon since Mowbray was sacked within 24 hours of that defeat.

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05 Nov 2020 23:34:21
Never glad to get horsed, we had players on the bench who would have done better, Rogic disappears when he gets one hard tackle Griffiths not match fit, why the players have to stand up and have a good look at themselves, they are getting paid champions league wages, and that can come back to haunt us raging.

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06 Nov 2020 00:08:57
Sorry Stevie there is nothing to be glad about when you get spanked 4-1 at home,

Sparta are no mugs but this result brings nothing but embarrassment for the club. Just like the Cluj and Ferencvaros results did. Sparta have been ravaged by C.V., have not played domestically and still out ran, out fought and out played us in every department. This result for me is worse than back to back defeats against Molde under Deila and is up there with Bratislava.

Europe is gone for this season. Some fans already saying they don't care and its all about the league but in my opinion they are talking out their arses. Its the manner of the way we have went out and its reminiscent of how we have been all season. No heart, no desire, no creativity, no leadership.

We are regressing at an alarming rate. Lennon has said the attitudes need to change. Why now? We are 20 games into what could be the most historic season in the clubs history. Has he gave the players too much leeway? Have they hung themselves with it? We are TWENTY games into the season and had 2 good performances. Players are doing what they want whether its f*****g off to Spain or refusing to adhere to club protocols and diets and get fit. From Lennon admitting players want to leave then no one goes, to petulance from players being subbed or sitting on their phones in the dugout. It is an absolute piss take and total lack of respect.

I liked Lennon as a player and bought into what he tried as manager first time round but ultimately would have preferred he didn't get the job second time round. As much as he put out the team that most of us probably would have picked he clearly doesn't have them motivated to play for him and there seems to be a huge lack of respect from some players towards him. There will also be reasons that players want out that we will never know about.

Change needs to happen and it needs to happen now, unfortunately for Lennon I don't think he can change the mentality and will pay the price with his job on the next game we lose or perform like this.

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06 Nov 2020 05:50:06
How many games does lennon have to lose, to get the message his tactics don't work, if the players don't want to play for him either sack the manager or play the boys who do want to play for him. Butawell has a huge descion to make. We the fans have bought record season ticket sales and are paying the players a great wage and the manager a good wage. As I said Lawell has a huge decision to make and he needs to make it soon. When was the last time apart from the first half against Aberdeen did we look like we were interested in winning a game.

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05 Nov 2020 23:01:30
Buzz we were all saying before the game that, that was our best team to put out, it can't be the manager all the time, I agree with earlier post give some of the fringe players that have the heart to play for us as something is definitely not right .

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05 Nov 2020 23:33:43
Brian your favourite team moment was in 1966.
You must be thinking of another team.

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06 Nov 2020 00:02:34
Julien and Ajer have been sorely missed. Duffy has had a nightmare since signing. Biton and Eddie are way off it after C.V. Elhamed woeful. Calmac Christie and Brown were just as bad. Laxalt is the only one giving his all. Frimpong is never a defender. It could have been 6 or 7.

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06 Nov 2020 05:52:02
Duffy is rank rotten I don't get all the hype surrounding him, I don't watch any other football. I only watch celtic so I can only go on how he has played for us and he is crap we need to get rid before he gets worse.

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05 Nov 2020 22:59:09
I feel for Lennon - he's clearly hurting and a Celtic man through and through. He has man up and get rid of the trouble makers or he has to go. It's his dream job but they're not responding to him.

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06 Nov 2020 00:21:48
I don't feel for Lennon no Celtic man would stand for this teams performances and would have wrung the change's weeks ago but he has persisted with the same players consistently.

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05 Nov 2020 22:52:48
Shambolic from start to finish defence all over the place and then the chopping and changing.

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05 Nov 2020 22:52:34
Very poor tonight, let's forget Europe, Sunday is a must.

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06 Nov 2020 01:00:33
Why so many new names on here, suddenly!

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05 Nov 2020 22:39:23
Ferencvaros; Rangers; Sparta Prague; How many 'rock bottoms' do we need to hit before it's too late?
The above games were the worst - off the top of my head - this season; but we have had a lot of very. very ordinary performances along the way, with far too few Celtic-style performances.
As each month passes we make the same mistakes, have the same stinking attitude from some players, the slow play and apparent lack of fitness and fail to address problems on the pitch until it is far too late - even though we have literally a full team on the bench to pick from? (some of whom should be starting) .
NL looks like he's banging his head off a brick wall and if we don't improve drastically and more importantly, consistently right now, it will be a long difficult road ahead with more of the same as tonight, or worse.
It's getting like Groundhog Day and how come he can't see how deplorable we are right through the spine of the team?

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05 Nov 2020 23:38:20
I can only think of the Hibs game when we actually played good in both halves.
Although we hammered both Hamilton and Ross County, we still gave them plenty of opportunities.

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05 Nov 2020 22:35:29
You know all this. Playing the Celtic way. I'd rather we were organised and hard to beat than get humiliated at home to a 2nd rate team.

We need a manager that can come in and organise.

At the moment 10 iar is a long way off.

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05 Nov 2020 23:18:52
Against Lille we were organised and played to a strict system, I could only watch the first twenty minutes tonight, but the team seemed to be playing at ninety miles an hour, all helter skelter, no obvious formation, they are going to tire themselves out, I was thinking.
I think they were trying too hard, because they were playing at home, because they wanted to prove they had turned the corner, because they didn't want to let Lenny down, and the end result was a shambles of a performance.

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05 Nov 2020 23:23:57
Change of management at this stage is a gamble, we showed against lille who beat Milan easily away from home tonight that we are capable, Frimpong too lightweight, Edourd not interested.

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05 Nov 2020 22:34:08
Appreciate Lennons somewhat honest (maybe slightly held back) interview. He recognised the fault comes on him and his dressing room. He apologised for the result and admits its unacceptable. Personally I want to say he's to late. We're out of Europe, we look an inferior team in comparison to rangers and someone else needs to take command. However if he comes back in gets some discipline and professionalism into this squad he could turn the league around at least - but his days are numbered.

Personally there is a list of players needing dropped out this side. Duffy for Welsh (get Julian, ayer or bitton in as the main centre back) get elhamed into right back as we need a defender even Taylor in at left back until we get a proper left winger. Until forrest is back we need to use frimpong as the right winger and laxalt on the left. We need a balance in the middle of the park turnball, calmac and christie/ moi (after his 2 week disciplinary for his actions) and then we go for grif upfront (even for the first half to get goals) and get Eddie in after he finds his confidence and form back. Ajeti couldn't get in a West ham side and looks more unfit than grif, and for all the effort klimala puts in he needs 7 shots to get a goal, it ain't good enough.

Lennon needs to set a standard for players stop wrapping them in wool, if the fans had attended they'd of been calling for resignations and players to come out answering. Hopefully this is the light bulb moment for the manager and his team and they recognise change is needed.

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06 Nov 2020 00:27:11
Lennon needs to walk end off, if he doesn't walk PL needs to sack him, its Lennon no 1 else just leave, u might love my club but so do I and I couldn't manage just leave NOW.

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05 Nov 2020 22:32:21
Well tonight we were out played and thought for large parts of the game. Sparta had players missing and managed to make us look even worse than usual.

Whatever the reason we're just not clicking this season.

We look unorganized and no pattern to our play.

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05 Nov 2020 22:23:49
Elyounoussi on his phone disgusting. Attitude is shocking.
Duffy is certainly not good enough to play for our great club.
If we are to be honest, we can say goodbye to TIAR when we have players who perform like that.
Everything Sutton has said tonight is 100%. correct. If we don't get a result on Sunday, Lennon will be under severe pressure to keep his job. But the next question will be? Who will replace him?

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06 Nov 2020 01:16:09
Well maybe if the clueless excuse of a manager hadn't taken a guy off who has scored 4 in 4 and one of our only players that looked like a goal threat, he wouldn't have been looking at his phone!

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06 Nov 2020 19:11:58
Nobody knows why Elyounoussi was on his phone, his wife / girlfriend could be pregnant, his parents might be ill etc, who knows.
Apart from Griffiths and Ajeti, he seems to be the only person who has been trying.

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05 Nov 2020 22:19:47
It will be the same team on Sunday. What do you need to be dropped.

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05 Nov 2020 22:22:48
NL has no idea what his best team or formation is. And after he called them out they have downed tools.

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05 Nov 2020 22:26:14
It's Lennon that needs dropped. Let Kennedy take control for Sunday. It couldn't get any worse than the pish we have to suffer week in week out.

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05 Nov 2020 22:16:00
We will make nothing from the Europa League this season and qualification is nowhere in sight. It's a squad game, so we should not risk our main players in the next 2 games, both away, in C.V. risk areas.
Play our younger players and we may get a player who wants to play for us.
Tonight, we should have played Welsh instead of Duffer, Turnbull instead of Rogic and Griffiths should have been on from the start instead of Edouard.

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05 Nov 2020 22:31:45
You make money from points and because we have no fans coming in we need every penny.

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05 Nov 2020 22:39:43
Typical Celtic arrogance. Think they have won the game before a ball is kicked. When will you ever learn?

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05 Nov 2020 22:55:45
Agree Welsh before Duffy, how can a player with all his experience be so bad he is costing us dearly!

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06 Nov 2020 19:13:43
Dazza, people have paid their season ticket, so the money has still come in.

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05 Nov 2020 21:56:12
That was a shocking performance if u can even call it that. If the like of Edward doesn't want to be here then fine piss off! I had thought we had turned a corner but how wrong l was.

Some players are clearly not caring one bit about playing for this great club. We have no defence and are leaking goals like no tomorrow. Players should hold their head in shame.

Talk of going for 10 IAR seems a long way off. The way we are second might be a challenge. Lennon position is surely under serious threat after tonight.

We have now becoming a laughing stock. I am so discussed and can't take much more of this rubbish. Something needs to happen and soon one way or the other.

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05 Nov 2020 21:59:30
If we don’t win on Sunday,
I don’t see Lennon surviving the International break.

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05 Nov 2020 22:04:00
I'm lost for words after this.

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05 Nov 2020 22:06:07
Its hard buzz seeing it after tonight.

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05 Nov 2020 22:06:39
With Biton and Duffy starting at CB, we never stood a chance.

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05 Nov 2020 22:09:11
It's my birthday today, 66 years old and a Celtic fan for 62 of those. Seen the good, great and bad times and tonight is among the worst of them, that team don't want to play for Lennon and you can't not see that. Yes we'll probably beat Hearts as they are garbage but 10IAR is gone.

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05 Nov 2020 22:11:03
Sunday shouldn't be Lennon's concern. players are failing to deliver or turn up for the manager. If they won't play for him drop them and save us watching fakes and frauds. He's probably the most infuriating manager to watch. In years to come I'll be interested to see what went on.

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05 Nov 2020 22:13:55
I’ve stuck up for lennie before but that was woeful, We have no pattern to our play, we bomb forward with no shape leaving an abject centre back pairing exposed, neither with pace. Centre midfield passing is shambolic, headers and passes going straight into midfield cutting out about 5/ 6 of our team. This team is littered with experience and internationals. They should all hang their heads in shame, they have obviously stopped playing for him and his coaching team, either that or they have no trust in what he’s doing. Either way there can only be one outcome, although the players are as culpable as the coaching staff. If a change isn’t made we can kiss goodbye to the league, who can come in to reinvigorate them I’m not sure . Although I’m not paid 2-3 million a year to make these decisions.

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05 Nov 2020 22:16:44
Lennon should have been gone over a year ago he is wasting the club getting worse and worse I can't understand why the board have still backed him instead of sacking him most important year and they give it too a guy that has clearly made the team worse by a mile than when Rodgers was in charge.

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05 Nov 2020 22:18:28
Lennon is out of his depth absolutely but the board need to take control because he has been left with players that don't want to be here and what can you do with a bunch of players that just don't give a sh**.

Lennon - I know fans will be on your case, but no player is bigger than the club. If the contingent that want out (Ajer, Edouard, Ntcham, Christie . we know who you are! ) are a toxic presence in the club then get them away from our first team. Stick them in the reserves or on a bus to hell for all I care but focus your coaching efforts on the guys that want to pull on the jersey. Oh and do us all a favour and drop Duffy - I think he is a rangers fan coming in to ensure they stop ten!

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05 Nov 2020 22:21:07
Yeah we were Pish but 10 In a row is far from gone we have only dropped 3 points more than them in league when we have been rotten.
Lennon has deserved chance to try and turn around the league form, yeah if we don’t beat Motherwell and Hibs in next 2 games then maybe that’s the end of the road for me, but win both and we are bang there.

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05 Nov 2020 22:37:25
Worst run at home in 30 years! How long do we have to put up with this before the board takes action? The performances have been abysmal. No one looks interested, the players look clueless especially in defence. And the fans have no confidence in Lennon turning it around. He has been financially backed so he can't have any excuses. Points dropped on Sunday surely he has to go. Desmond and Lawwell must be considering alternative options otherwise we can wave goodbye to history.

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05 Nov 2020 22:50:31
Happy birthday Hugh. I hope that you had a good day no matter what happened tonight. I'm sure that you did because, I count myself here, as you get older there are more things to life. Having said that. We were awful and I, like you went to Parkhead when I was 4.we need a complete revamp. Now, I know people will say if we do that we risk the 10 but, seriously, does anyone think that we will get anywhere near the 10 the way we are just now. I certainly don't. and haven't for some time. Personally, and you may get this Hugh. Like the Flashing Blade it's better to have loved and lost than never loved all. We need a change now because we will not get to 10 if we don't. I'm not specifically blaming NL (although you all know my feelings on him) but also the players, coaches and higher. It is still salvageable at the moment but not for much longer. Feel free to disagree and if I am totally wrong, come the end of the season, there will be no one more delighted than me. HH. Best to one and all. 🦊.

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05 Nov 2020 23:58:05
bring back wee fergus. he would chase the lot of them.

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05 Nov 2020 10:39:01
My brother in law was an old neighbour of Hugh Dallas.
He said his boys wore Rangers tops in their teens.
Yet Hugh felt he needed to publicly parade both of them as mascots at Fir Park a couple of times a season whilst he was still a referee.
Celtic have got Baby Dallas again on Sunday who has been listed in 43% of our away games.
On Sunday Celtic will have a referee who was supporter of the old club Rangers who was a constant mascot for his local team Motherwell in such a massive game.
What could possible go wrong?

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05 Nov 2020 11:44:41
It only took me 10 minutes to get a bite from the other side.
And Laudrup took the time to type out my full post about Baby Dallas and then added in his reply.
Well Done to Laudrup for obsessing on the Champions page.
It only took him a few minutes to get caught on my line before typing. 😂🎣
That must be a record.

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05 Nov 2020 12:00:44
Buzz they never look at the champions site even tho oldco and a few other rockets knows all our posts on here. funny that.

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05 Nov 2020 13:32:27
Ed's pigeon analogy of them is so true.

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05 Nov 2020 20:48:23
I think we have a bit more to worry about than referees buzz, are you this calamity? If we get pumped it will be because defensively we are dug meat, nothing to do with referees or who their weans supported jeez.

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05 Nov 2020 20:54:33
True Malky dug meat not the word for it, 2 -0 down to a team that's hardly played a game in months and missing a load of first team players, terrible defending.

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05 Nov 2020 21:50:24
That can't be defended, go now NL and take Duffy with, for the sake of Celtic go!

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05 Nov 2020 22:14:24
Watch your manners Malky
It’s not my fault the players are gutless.

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06 Nov 2020 09:41:15
correct mally. they all claim they never go on here but always know what the posts say on here.

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05 Nov 2020 09:54:08
lennon needs applauded that's 3 stories he's now called out the media on he seems to be getting his mojo back and its great to see him calling them out.

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05 Nov 2020 20:11:32
As you know not the biggest fan but 100% correct. Well done NL. 👏👏👏.

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05 Nov 2020 20:49:00
Lennon needs the sack nevermind applauded!

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05 Nov 2020 21:34:50
Must get the chop after this game.

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05 Nov 2020 21:55:52
Worst performance since the days of macari and brady. Sevvies will be laughing at this sh&£#. 😠😠😠 This team would struggle to keep elgin city at bay. This is EMBARRASSING. something has to give.

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05 Nov 2020 09:08:54
Glad someone from Celtic has spoke out about way were treated during the boli fiasco.

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05 Nov 2020 10:29:39
Sorry but it needs a full Club approach to this inequalitun of treatment and not for the manager or players to make the case that so far the position taken by the SFA/ SPFL and the Scottish Government is inconsistent and discriminatory. So come. on our Tory Board, let's get some due diligence going.

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05 Nov 2020 10:49:51
Exactly someone from the hierarchy needs to leave the bunker and let the manager concentrate on the football.

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05 Nov 2020 12:52:30
I never seen Bitton or Elhamed named in the Israel squad for the upcoming International games.
Can anyone confirm this.

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05 Nov 2020 13:12:31
Still don't think we handled the bolongoli situation very well. Whether that was the club or players fault i don't know. Whataboutary going on here doesn't help anyone in the long run.

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05 Nov 2020 16:24:41
I said on the Sevconians page yesterday that our Board are spineless. That lots Board issue scatter gun nonsensical statements most of the time but at least they don't leave it for the manager to front it up. The Sevconian and Daily Rectum should be barred from pressers. We should do our own in house interviews. I never but then or click their links, I just read the comments as there some laugh apart from the vile trolls.

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05 Nov 2020 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th November 2020

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05 Nov 2020 05:25:44
Well Done to the Green Brigade for displaying what should be an inspirational banner inside paradise at the North Curve.

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05 Nov 2020 11:04:40
Banners inside stadiums with no fans is unlikely to inspire players imo. How much Influence did the green brigades actions have on results against rangers/ Aberdeen? I personally have major concerns for this season as the players can't string 90 minutes together which I put down to a lack of atmosphere which drives them on.

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05 Nov 2020 11:41:55
Or lack of fitness Jim?

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05 Nov 2020 14:43:35
Fitness certainly wasn't the issue with rangers or Aberdeen bubs.

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05 Nov 2020 15:51:48
Not the Rangers game no but we look dead on our feet after 80mins in every game since then. May be the lack of a proper pre season but we don't look as fit as we have been in recent years. I remember that being a criticism of NLs last reign.

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05 Nov 2020 17:42:22
I was listening to the Celtic v Aberdeen game last Sunday and the commentators were saying that in the 62 minutes of the game.

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