Celtic Banter Archive March 05 2016

05 Mar 2016 22:55:12
How bizarre sitting watching Sportscene with a tinge of jealousy watching 10 man Dundee United's fighting spirit against Ross County. It's getting to that time of the season that every team seem to be battling and playing for the jersey, trying to win leagues, cups, avoid relegation etc then we've got Celtic who look as if they don't give a f***. Shameful.

05 Mar 2016 23:54:03
Well, you know where Tannadice is.

06 Mar 2016 00:33:36
TPP aka The Ostrich has spoken

06 Mar 2016 00:36:47
Some people are stuck on the one page of the hymn book all the time . If they cared anything about Celtic they would turn the page or close the book altogether.

06 Mar 2016 00:54:22
Sorry Stevie I thought you said you were jealous of Dundee Utd.

I'd rather be 4 points ahead at the top of the table than rock bottom and hanging on to my top flight status by the skin if my teeth.

What about that makes me have my head in the sand? I'll give you a hint: nothing.

06 Mar 2016 00:55:02
And there's another Ostrich aka old bhoy

06 Mar 2016 01:05:22
How many times lads! it is possible to care dearly for Celtic and still want a change if management. the original poster makes an interesting point in that it is possible to win a game with ten men if the manger can be flexible and tactically astute. Let's hope tomorrow brings a god performance which can set us back on the right track to win the league in May.

06 Mar 2016 01:34:58
Tpp I am jealous of Uniteds fighting spirit. You are trying to make out by being top of the one horse race spl by 4 pts is some kind of achievement, get a grip and don't accept slipping standards

06 Mar 2016 07:22:51
Call me an ostrich but this is some of the worst posting i've ever seen. stevie.

05 Mar 2016 19:40:28
I refuse to subscribe to the *un, what's this i've just been told about Hartson 'claiming' Deila is already penciled in for the chop?

05 Mar 2016 20:09:11
U sound surprised Jim. Big bad John's been spouting pish for years. How do u think he got a job wae the hun.

05 Mar 2016 20:17:28
Starting to dislike Hartson, selling himself nowadays. That video he done a couple week back was the most cringey thing I've seen in a while! Sutton can go take a flying F too himself aswell.

05 Mar 2016 20:28:06
Ronny has maximum 13 games left as so called celtic manager FACT.

05 Mar 2016 20:38:54
Was he claiming to know RD is getting sacked and it's yet to be released? Because that's the way a friend I spoke to phrased it.

As for Sutton, calling for a managers head the day before a cup tie. Real classy. He's been having too many afternoon teas with the Scottish press.

05 Mar 2016 20:44:36
They're entitled to their opinions and tbh it must be hard to watch a team fall from European heavyweights to the shambles we are now when they achieved so much with the club barely a decade ago. People expect ex players to say nothing but positive things about Celtic and when they don't it's because they've sold out to appease the supposed biased media.

05 Mar 2016 20:59:13
JT I think he is saying he knows his "ticket's punched" but with no timeline as much as I like hartson I don't think this innuendo helps

It is getting harder to endure this

I had heard a few month back and asked Ed that RD would be replaced at the end of the season?

But you see the signing of Ajer and the two physio's and it's hard to envisage them sighing knowing RD was off

I gave up second guessing

On a separate note is there any chance of sticking the clock back up too see the updates mate?

05 Mar 2016 21:16:10
He said ronnies a goner regardless of what happens next but there's no point doing it till seasons over. Don't think he said he had inside info. Might be wrong but, just glanced over it.

05 Mar 2016 21:20:55
European heavyweights kevbhoy?

05 Mar 2016 21:26:12
They are both Celtic fans know and aren't saying much different to what 70% of Celtic supporters are saying I really have backed Ronnie to the hill but we are in a major decline right now the problem is there is no quick fix either sacking Rd wouldn't achieve much because who would they bring in.

05 Mar 2016 21:40:25
Ronny won't be at celtic next season because he's not good enough at the start a bought into his philosophy of sorta the Chile national teams way of playing but atm celtic are going backwards and the mob across the city are going forward it's time for change all celtic fans are entitled to have a different view as I am to mine if by some miracle Ronny is there next season I'll be worried I have to say I'm worried now about the league title under Ronny and the new club isn't there we have been warned we need to up are level.

05 Mar 2016 21:55:38
It was good of P L to tell Paddy Maguire that R D was going at the end of the season Facts like these are so important and useful .
Although I a slightly worried Paddy is now watering down his early fact . How disappointing would it be if Paddy didn't know any more than the rest of us.

05 Mar 2016 22:31:13
Yes Gerrybhoy, there wasn't a team in Europe I'd have feared playing during those days. We never made it as far in the CL as we could have due mainly to bad luck. We were every bit as good as the Porto team that won the CL as we showed in Seville.

05 Mar 2016 22:35:22
I don't get the surprise in it? Deila won't be at parkhead come the new season if he lasts that long!?
Sutton and Hartson haven't said anything different to what every one else is lol
We get to have our wee opinion on here, they have they're opinion and it's in the media, wide spread, no quotes needed, they're just saying what they see same as the rest. And it's 100% true
If I was on camera outside parkhead and said the same after a game, most would agree!
When ex players say it. it's a dig!
Everyone is spot on barring the twats that wear blinkers.

05 Mar 2016 22:40:01
Oldbhoy Emm the dogs in the street no this and any1 that watches this current celtic built side by Ronny ya get what u pay for Roy Keane turned it down so did henrik why because they wanted a cheap guy and they got one he's clearly out of his depth.

05 Mar 2016 23:19:05
I've no doubting Chris suttons affection for Celtic, are John Hartson for that matter despite that article in the sun regarding Dundee game . What I see is they care for Celtic, and pretty much getting it bang on. We're not good enough .

05 Mar 2016 23:33:53
Well said Kevbhoy, we were a team that was respected in Europe, i remember a CL game against Bayern and being gutted at only getting a draw and them going home delighted with a point. Gerrybhoy obviously can only remember our recent pathetic efforts

06 Mar 2016 00:09:28
Can remember a lot Stevie and we certainly weren't 'heavy weights'. A few good results at home in CL doesn't make us heavy weights.

06 Mar 2016 00:46:55
Paddymaguire I don't u get the dogs in the street to post, cut out any chance of u misinterpreting them, fact . If Celtic turned down Keane and Larsson the last time for a cheaper option, surely with a smaller turnover now they will chase after some one cheaper .
I know some people list well known out of work managers who they feel won't accept bullshit from Board . I think the dogs on the street will tell u that type of manager won't get Celtic job .
Sutton and Hartson have no love for Celtic, love for their pocket, hence they sell the SMSM line.

06 Mar 2016 00:50:28
We were heavyweights considering the league we were playing in. Juve, Barca twice,AC Milan, Porto , Lyon, Valencia, Bayern, Stuttgart, Man U, Liverpool, Celta Vigo,Anderlecht, Benfica to name a few all failed at Celtic park.Just a few good results Gerry

06 Mar 2016 08:24:14
C'mon lads, we have to be sensible here when talking about past players now pundits. These guys know what they are talking about when discussing manager failings.
Sutton, who managed (eh, it will come back to me) and won all those trophies with those smooth attacking teams and Hartson, whose teams were unbeatable when he managed (oh, what's that team again? Its on the tip of my tongue) . These guys know what they are talking about. On top of that we have Pat Nevin and co. spouting, sorry, giving us the benefits of their wisdom and how managers, players, refs and linesmen all made mistakes. Of course, they have had 6 hours to analyse games from a variety of angles but they were just as good when they managed successful teams.
They are pundits because no one wants them as managers (Alan Shearer case in point. Every vacant managers job has his name n the hat after his successful run with Newcastle) .
Their job is to sell papers and create some controversy for audience figures. Most sports radio shows have two guys who take opposite stands on subjects to bait the punters.
The only pundits I listen to are those who have had success on the subject they are talking about.

06 Mar 2016 14:54:52
Ok Gerrybhoy maybe heavyweights is a bit strong but as Stevie said we were highly respected and even the best teams used to dread a visit to CP.

05 Mar 2016 18:33:33
OK guys we all have our opinions on Deila and the team, but tomorrow let us all turn up in big numbers and show how TRUE Celtic supporters back their team. I have my 3 tickets purchased. COME ON YOU BHOYS IN GREEN.

05 Mar 2016 18:58:54
Got my ticket bought too Tim and after Wednesday up until an hour ago I wasnt going but I've never had much will power giving up anything so I"ll be there. PS changed the date of Mothers day to today and went up to see the old dear .She understands.

05 Mar 2016 19:05:20
Good man Timalley , that's the right attitude, no matter what are views on R D, board or whoever, our team needs us . I will be there and I hope there is a decent crowd actually getting behind the team.

05 Mar 2016 19:07:23
Good on you Timalloy, I personally will probably struggle to watch it on TV. I could only bear to watch 70 mins of the Dundee game.

I was a fan of RD but it's just not happening IMO, I don't know if a change of manager or if RD gets full control of all football related issues is the way forward as this decline has been on the cards for many a year.

05 Mar 2016 19:30:21
I will be there also, I'm hoping that we get a result and a performance to go with it.
I don't know enough of what goes on behind the scenes to know why we have been so poor in recent matches, but hopefully if we win tomorrow the lure of a double will surely shake the players out of their lethargy, if it doesn't, then there's no hope for them.

05 Mar 2016 21:00:04
Paddy saying FACT doesn't necessarily make it so.

05 Mar 2016 22:01:45
Paddy's fact means " it might happen"

05 Mar 2016 16:56:11
New to this guys so here goes. After watching Sevco today albeit against a poor Dundee side can anyone honestly say we could comprehensively beat them the way we have been performing of late? That result today should be incentive enough for the players to get their act together as a possible semi or final against them is a possibility. We are lacking leadership from top to bottom and although I think the job is too big for RD, the players have to realise they are playing for Glasgow Celtic, and if they can't handle it, ship out. We need a Roy Aitken or Peter the Pointer type character on the park, not the greatest player's we ever had, but big hearts and would never have stood for the garage we have had to witness lately. A league and cup double is still doable and tomorrow can go along way in achieving that, ie a solid performance with a style. As I said, a potential game against Sevco should be enough incentive to get through tomorrow and a good performance should hopefully get us through the next few league games. Time for these players and management to stand up and give us the standards we expect from our great club. Hail Hail to you all.

05 Mar 2016 17:17:43
Sorry u have a distorted opinion of Peter Grant mate he was a very average player. And if u want a player to run 50 yards to close a goalie down who is only going to boot it into the area that you should be in them Grant was a great player.
SJ does that job very well as it is.

05 Mar 2016 17:50:37
But to be serious the Sevco performance today will give all of us an eye opener as its the first I have seen them play in a while.
For all of those who say "Name" a mangager who can do a better job than Deila just have to look at Sevco,
Their team is night and day compared to the team we walked over 2-0.
The answer is clearly most managers with any bit of savvy about them as a manager can fill his team of Accrington Stanley type of players and transform it.

05 Mar 2016 18:48:37
Youve etook that the wrong way rayman the boys obviously pointing out we've no players with green n white coursing through there veins the type who would never go through the motions like the mob were watching just now, and just a reply to the othef posts regarding rangers if we drew them in next round i'm confident we would beat them.

05 Mar 2016 19:11:17
No rayman mate, player for player I would not take one sevconian over any of our players

Confidence might be low and RD might not be the answer but we are still a squad rippled with international players

As for the Magic bread maker am not buying into that either he couldn't take Brentford forward and the owner is the same guy who owns Midgyland (sorry Ed) it's the team that we bought big Erik from but he is stats mad for an owner

I like you bud but its hard for me to take anyone serious that thinks Sevco is a threat maybe am looking at that via too much as a business angle though (y)

05 Mar 2016 19:14:09
I never had any intention of watching the new club today and won't watch them unless we have to play them . Somehow I think we wont be beaten by a new club toddling along.

05 Mar 2016 19:59:49
I'd take their Rb over lustig he's done in my opinion apart from that dunno anyone else.

05 Mar 2016 21:40:15
You guys are kidding yourself if you think this Celtic team would walk over them (certainly not in this current form) . As much as I hate to admit it they had the hunger we are lacking and that would be a big factor in any future game. I hope whoever calls the shots sorts themselves right out before that time ever comes as a defeat to them ( and possibly them winning the cup) would be an absolute embarrassment and near impossible to live down. It would also turn this club in to the full blown joke it is becoming.

05 Mar 2016 23:31:07
Jamie I warned you about RD and you didn't take heed mate. Now you have seen the light lol. This sevco team are a threat on current form believe me mate.
I would take Tavernier over Lustig in a heartbeat.
Wallace I always liked tho Tierney is proving to be good.
I would take anyone over Boyata.
Their midfield is not as good as ours or their attack in personell.
Difference is they play as a team we DONT.
And they have a manager that KNOWS what he is doing.
I am with you mate when it comes to the manager he is the most important person there. Spend a bit more on him and u save long term.
At this point in time if we played them tomoz I would be worried.
Compare this to only a short time ago when we played them it was men against boys.
This is how far Ronny has progressed us.

05 Mar 2016 14:00:28
How much worse does mid weeks result looks now

05 Mar 2016 14:26:08
Embarrasing.

05 Mar 2016 14:31:56
Why not post it on the Rangers page via the live match update?

05 Mar 2016 14:38:39
Because I am talking about celtic.
If you don't think it's bad that a 1ST DIVISION team hammered a team that we NEVER looked like scoring against then that's up to you.

05 Mar 2016 14:50:19
It's all about timing in football and right now we are struggling, with a lack of confidence and harmony engulfing the club, breeding negativity and doubt, with more questions than answers.
Over the river - no matter how we perceive them - their title rivals have imploded, plus a couple of home scalps against higher division teams in the cup and they've built a winning mentality.

The 'clear-the-air-talks' scenario two thirds into RD's second season has also been an unwanted distraction and I hope the players took heed? However, they just have to look at the players and teams adorning the corridors of Celtic Park - then take a look in the mirror. The guilt and embarrassment should do the rest.
Looking for a big improvement tomorrow - perfect timing.

05 Mar 2016 14:50:23
They also lost to Aberdeen (at home) which is way more relevant to us - but then again they beat St Johnstone and as we all know, St Johstone beat Rangers so that's good.

But then again, they were beaten by Kilmarnock who only managed a draw and a defeat against Rangers so if that doesn't prove whatever nonsense you are trying to prove, nothing will.

Drawing with Dundee at Celtic Park, whichever team they put out, whatever team they played the week previous, or are playing the week after, is a bad result. A result made worse by the fact we are closing in on a Championship. It's got little to do with anything else, no matter how it's spun. By your rationale, if Dundee had won, Wednesday's result would somehow be better.

05 Mar 2016 15:27:41
You're only as good (or bad) as your next game.

05 Mar 2016 15:36:50
If you can't see that this highlights how bad the teams that are coming away with results against us then I am shocked
Yes 1st division teams win in cup game every now and then but today was a hammering a total going over.
We could have played to Xmas and never looked like scoring against Dundee.
There are people talking about how it won't be a big shock if we lose tomorrow.
That's a disgrace.
Even poor teams think they can get a result against us and they are right.

05 Mar 2016 15:51:03
As I said, by your rationale, had Dundee won today it would have somehow made Wednesday's result somewhat more palpable. I don't agree with that. Not in the slightest.

05 Mar 2016 16:10:42
What a load of bull
The mid week result was a terrible result and performance
What happened today just compounded it by showing us how poor Dundee really are.

05 Mar 2016 16:34:51
Football doesn't work like that Kev83 just because you beat a team someone else doesn't mean they are any better.

05 Mar 2016 16:48:40
It isn't about them being worse or better
It's about how BAD we were against a team that a 1ST DIVISION team hammered today.
They should have lost by a lot more and we hardly made a chance against them.
The other teams in this league are rotten and at the minute everyone of them fancy their chances against us.

05 Mar 2016 17:01:59
Totally true kev, unfortunately an element of our support choose to bury there heads in the sand and can see no wrong in our club.

05 Mar 2016 17:02:42
Kev Bhoy my point was never about the 1st division side getting better
It's was about how bad Dundee are

05 Mar 2016 16:59:46
Hibernian skekped Aberdeen. Aberdeen beat us. So Hibs are better than us. Dumbarton beat Hibs. So they are better than us. Utter mince Kev. Worry about Celtic not the Championship, or the 1ST DIVISION as you call it.

05 Mar 2016 17:30:49
I have never said it proves they are better than us.
Not once you are making that up to have a dig
What I said was it proves DUNDEE was a bad team
This post was never about rangers as you keep trying to make it
I would be saying same if it was hibs that had hammered them
The result tody shows how badly we are playing at the moment when we can't even dominate that Dundee tean

05 Mar 2016 18:05:03
I didn't say you did. I'm making the point that a team's result before/ after we play them makes no difference to the game/ result against us. It's irrelevant. Today's result means nothing to us other than one of those two teams would be in the last four of the Scottish cup, as we hopefully will be after tomorrow. As far as relevance goes that's about it.

Today's result doesn't prove Dundee are a bad team, in an SPFL context they're not. It simply proves they were well beaten today, because by all accounts they were. (I didn't watch it)

And that's the crux of what I'm saying: if you attribute weight to today's result in the form of, "they were defeated thus they are poor thus Wednesday's result is (somehow) worse", then you must also think that "had they won, they'd be good, thus Wednesday's result isn't so bad for us". Both are equally preposterous and I'm steadfast in my belief that no matter what happened today, our result (and performance) on Wednesday was unacceptable.

The post was about Rangers because that's who they are/ were playing and you posted about the result, I didn't. You can say you'd be posting it whether Hibs beat them, or Aberdeen beat them, or whatever -- and maybe that's true -- but the fact is they weren't playing Hibs/ Aberdeen etc, they were playing Rangers and you posted about it.

As I said above, today's result means nothing to Celtic outwith the context of the Scottish cup and it certainly has no bearing on whether or not Wednesday's result was good/ bad.

We had a shocker on Wednesday night, plain and simple, and had Dundee won today it would have changed nothing about that result/ performance; so neither does the fact they were soundly beaten.

05 Mar 2016 19:28:35
All this negative chat about recent performances, maybe true, but it doesn't do anything to enthuse fans Manager and players for the important cup games and last ten leagues . I take it as a given that we all want to win the SPL this season . Harping on about how bad we are and magnifying our disastrous recent form won't maintain or increase our 4 points lead . Unlike Rangers we know we don't deserve better . Aberdeen can run us close in league but hopefully they won't .
In the EPL the fans of Man City and Utd, Spurs Chelsea Liverpoool must all be booing their teams and a using their players for allowing last season's relegation' candidates Leicester City to lead them nearly through the league . L City wage bill would be a small fraction of any of these obscene budgets
We must get behind R D and the bhoys .

05 Mar 2016 19:47:38
Wee teams from lower divisions always go on a good cup run don't buy into there crap.