Celtic Banter Archive June 05 2016

 

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05 Jun 2016 21:06:28
I'd like Brendan to just go ahead and sign Ronaldinho right now please. Still got it. Sensational!

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06 Jun 2016 00:13:31
Mate i'm a bear and dam that guy is still unbelievable, what a touch and what a footballing mind if only he would lay down roots in the spl can you imagine him on a frosty monday night at firhill lol, what a great cause though and well played apart from that guy that got a red card dam he could of had five.

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06 Jun 2016 09:40:00
It's all about how you sell it. You'd be the main man, potential CL football and a stage to show the doubters you've still got it. Obviously a half decent wage as well. I can dream.

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05 Jun 2016 20:35:30
Seeing that Roy Keane has apparently walked out on Ireland if true thank f! k we never got him supposedly slagging of the players. also letting Martin O'Neil and his country down again I think it's totally disrespectful.

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05 Jun 2016 21:43:27
Think it was a piss take article mate.

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05 Jun 2016 21:49:45
Read the story mate it was a piss take! After what he said after there last game slagging players, I read it it ended with him hack sawing the goals down! Lol.

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05 Jun 2016 21:56:11
Think its a wind up man.

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05 Jun 2016 21:56:49
Think it is a joke article that is saying that is it not?

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05 Jun 2016 22:05:16
It's a load of Rubbish mate.

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05 Jun 2016 23:35:05
Total nonsense, but it is not unbelievable . Poor Roy needs help but no one is brave enough to tell him.

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05 Jun 2016 23:57:54
Really hope you read that and believed it. Must think keanes a nutter hack sawing goals, burning bibs and making mc geady cry lol.

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05 Jun 2016 15:48:08
Not directly Celtic related but I see Ronald Koeman has agreed a deal with Everton poor David Moyes did not get it and wonder where that will leave the Ex Celtic lads?

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05 Jun 2016 16:11:11
Wanyama has already been trying to force a move by all accounts
Forster will end up at one of the big clubs soon enough because he is to good for Southampton

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05 Jun 2016 17:58:03
Would been interesting to see had van dijk not signed a new 6 year deal and with stones looking like moving on there's a gap needs filling and maybe some extra money coming our way this summer.

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05 Jun 2016 18:25:51
I am not sure that selling your best players would be good for Southampton as Leicester showed how poor these big teams are . Of course players like big Victor who have money as their God, I'll always put themselves first.

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05 Jun 2016 19:32:27
Yes winyama is all about the money

It has ruined football and China hasn't even really got out of first year with transfer fees and wages and already they're head and shoulders above. CFC will find it even harder. How long would a recognisably good player now last at CFC 1 year .2 .3 if they breakthrough when they're sub 20 years old

We will only enjoy short term heroes from now on in

Of course we will get the odd player who had made a few wrong turns or has " baggage " and we may get a stint out of those sorts that larger wealthier clubs aren't prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to

CFC will have to do more homework and work harder still to unearth the next Mahrez or Lubo.

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06 Jun 2016 09:34:45
I agree Paradise although I think we will see a good few years out of young Teirney before he moves onto greener pastures and looking foward to see how he improves this season.

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05 Jun 2016 15:33:23
Taylor is a terrible player!

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05 Jun 2016 15:46:03
He's worst than that.

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05 Jun 2016 18:26:47
So Gav and Kev we would be better not signing him.

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05 Jun 2016 12:09:41
Another day means another Liverpool players linked with us. Andre Wisdom for £3million. I wonder if there is anything in these stories or whether they are simply linking us with every player Rodgers has ever managed in hope they got one right (hopefully its Suarez) ! Good athlete who can play right back and centre back so would add to areas where we need more strength in depth.

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{Ed001's Note - it would be a surprise, he is a decent player, but Rodgers tried to sell him and continually loaned him out season after season. It seems strange he would then go and sign him. Though he is available.}

05 Jun 2016 12:32:41
You heard anything about a bid Ed? Still fairly young so could improve with a good run of games.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing mate, he has been made available though, so any deal would be very easy to do and would not require much haggling that might give us a chance to find out for sure. Seems an unlikely move though, like I said, Rodgers never gave him a chance at Liverpool, tried to sell him and sent him on a loan to buy deal to Norwich.}

05 Jun 2016 13:34:07
Seen it happen before Ed001 that a player wasn't right for the manager at one club but then at another he is right.
Could be the case he rated him but just not enough for Liverpool 1st team?

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{Ed001's Note - it is perfectly possible, but the point is he broke promises to the lad, so he would be unlikely to want to play for Rodgers. Mind money talks, so I am sure he would be willing to forgive him if Celtic are offering a good wage and first team football.}

05 Jun 2016 13:54:59
So Ed 001, Who do you expect BR to try and get in from Liverpool (if any? ) is there any contact been made (y)

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{Ed001's Note - there has been contact to ask about Gomez on loan and if there is anyone else available for loan. Most of them available will not play for Rodgers, he never wanted them while he was there, so it leaves a very small potential pool. Gomez being the only really likely one. Even then, it is not certain. He is just recovering from almost a full season on the sidelines. He might need a loan though, depending on Klopp managing to get the left backs he is after and another centre half. It might leave a loan as his only option for first team football.}

05 Jun 2016 15:12:44
Strong Stuff 001 saying no one (ex Liverpool) would want to play for him! But accept you more than most on here better placed to judge I have never heard any ex player bad mouth BR In the way you have heard ex players bad mouth the likes of Fergie, Souness could go on

BR seems very personable new Asst manager saying he will all the players wife's names, kids names etc there a nice touch in that a sense of caring even!

A know he made a pigs ear of transfer targets/ fees etc but other than that as I said not much negative stuff out there (y)

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{Ed001's Note - not anyone, just anyone that is within Celtic's reach mate, there is a difference. Players very rarely bad mouth managers that are still in the game. Rodgers is a nice guy, but he is also full of promises, which he then breaks. That upset a lot of the youngsters at the club who had been assured of chances then ignored or forced out on loan.}

05 Jun 2016 18:34:00
Isn't it wonderful how much knowledge a Manchester United fan has of a former Liverpool manager.
I would have thought that if a person had any love for Celtic he wouldn't use prejudices from his EPL loves and hates, to make Rodgers job at Celtic harder than necessary .
It seems no matter who the Board appointed as manager was going to be ridiculed by some for matters that are totally irrelevant .
Hail Hail . Celtic supporters don't let begrudgers strike.

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{Ed001's Note - what are you wittering on about? I am a Liverpool fan. You really need to get off your high horse.}

05 jun 2016 19:21:25
calm down calm down clam down! this is getting more like the liverpool site instead of the celtic site.

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05 Jun 2016 13:42:02
When the first source is Here Is The Shitty, forget anything you've just read.

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05 Jun 2016 20:21:36
Calm down Oldbhoy, Ed001 has always made it clear that he is a pool fan, is that you not bothering to read something properly again?, you've probably got me down as a begudger as well, but I am going to give Brendan my full support untill I see what he brings to the job.

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05 Jun 2016 23:48:35
Right. , I am sorry I made a mistake, however I don't think supporters of English teams should have their prejudices should judge a manager coming into do a job .
I want B Rodgers to be given every opportunity to do a wonderful job for Celtic
Celtic supporters shouldn't be putting their alleged knowledge of B Rodgers at Liverpool to the detriment of Celtic
The hatred of B R is so great that he even got criticised for getting his teeth whitened I must be bad because as an OA P I got my whitened for a daughters wedding .

I am sorry again Ed I could hardly insult u more. than call you an Utd fan, people could be banned for less. Pls give B R a honeymoon period, he will need it, you know how difficult things became for R D when posters turned against him.

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{Ed001's Note - I am here to inform not to tell you everything is rosey, but to give an honest appraisal of how I see it. It doesn't matter whether it is Man Utd, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers or anyone else, I try and put aside my blinkers. At the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is how he is doing on the pitch. If he had Liverpool producing great performances, no one would have cared that he dicked his secretary and then had a makeover. It is purely up to him to ensure that no one cares about stuff like that.

The problem is that the performances were awful, and, instead of doing things like watching opponents or youth team games etc, being seen to do more work, he was obviously far too busy with teeth whitening and sunbeds to do his job. That is why it became a problem.

From what I can see, he has the vast majority of the fans behind him, you all see him, pretty much 99% of you anyway, to think you have a big coup and he will lead you to glory. I don't think my words are really going to have much of an effect on that.}

06 Jun 2016 22:28:43
I am not going to argue with you, but one way of looking at it is he brought Liverpool to 2nd place in league after over 20 yrs in the league doldrums . At that time not too many were bemoaning B R or his style of play. At L'pool he wasn't given a free hand in buying those he wanted and in his time the best players were sold or retired .
In his third season journalists, posters on L'pool forums and fans at matches became disillusioned and B R and team lost confidence and the game was up for him .
Would this have happened if the league had been won instead of lost to a stupid mistake .
I have no great love for Rodgers, but I know that we have a manager from the best group of managers we could dream of .
I just want us to give him our very best support we can, we may never appoint as potentially as good a manager again, certainly not in my life time .
We are not appointing God or a Pope, it's likely our appointee will have some faults . It's also likely that in the 8 mths he has been out of work he has reviewed his time at L'pool and may correct things that could be done better .
I know and I think u know that if things don't go perfect for Celtic there will be posters who won't wait too long to start putting him under pressure.

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{Ed001's Note - actually people were on his back after the first season, which was woeful. The second season started terribly and and people were on his back, as he could not figure out how to set up the team. Then he received some advice from a great coach, Marcelo Bielsa, and set out his team differently and it all changed.

The slip did not cost the title, it had already been thrown away by the team bottling it, that just confirmed it. It was more to do with Henderson's suspension than the slip.

The problem was that all the press attention and fan adulation went to his head and he completely forgot what worked and went straight back to 'his' chosen way of playing. Which was what had been so bad in the first season and beginning of the second. It was passing for passing's sake. It was boring, negative and didn't work.

As for the transfers, he had the final say in every transfer, except the sale of Suarez, but he had known for over a year that Suarez would go. The problem was his transfer policy was ridiculously bad. He would have young players in and around the team doing well, in 2013/14,. Then he spent the following summer signing a bunch of players to make sure he would not have to call on those youth players the following season. Those youth players he discarded were his success. But he discarded them. That is why he failed.

I really do not know why you are arguining about this, it is clear you have no idea what happened at Liverpool.}

05 Jun 2016 09:44:38
Was never a fan of WGS when he was at Celtic, think he is one vastly overrated manager, why has he not used these friendlies to throw a whole lot of younger players into the team, sure they might still get beat, but they are only friendly matches and you would learn more about what some of the younger ones are capable of rather than just seeing once more that the two fletchers best days are behind them, that Ritchie is'nt good enough, that playing a centre half at right back is crazy, are there no young right backs?, thought it was a bad move to give Strachan, the job after the euro failure, and still do, he'll probably spend the rest of his time as manager telling us that Scotland don't have any good players, rather than owning up to being a crap manager.

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05 Jun 2016 12:08:01
The team was a joke are we so bad that Greer and Hanley are the best pairing.

Ritchie was awful, but has been ok previously.

Fletcher is dire and much like the RD system we can't play that way get back to 5 3 2 like it was under Craig Brown it's no surprise we haven't qualified since we changed our formation.

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05 Jun 2016 16:14:56
I thought WGS was a fantastic manager at Celtic. 3 titles in a row and 2 last 16 places in the CL. Can't say fairer than that.

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05 Jun 2016 16:51:29
Strachan was a great celtic manager
Successful and stood up for club when people trying to put boot in.

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05 Jun 2016 18:41:38
When WGS did the correct thing and not call up Celtic players for these meaningless friendlies he was always going to have difficulties . Plenty of players had turned their back on him and Scotland and if he had left out some of the experience players who had made themselves available, then the problems may have been even greater in future internationals. The Scottish International team is rank rotten at the moment, WGS cannot be expected to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear .
I am not sure if any credible manager would be interested in the job just now and I think the SFA were glad to get WGS.

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05 Jun 2016 20:28:33
WGS is another manager who follows a system blindly and try's to make players play acertsin way, instead of using the best players available and then using s system that brings out the best in the players, after a honeymoon period he has taken Scotland backwards, he is an international manager now he just can't tranfer players in to suit his system, he has to utilise the best players availsble.

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05 Jun 2016 23:50:53
Tell me Aindoh, who were the best players available that he didn't utilise for these two meaningless friendlies, that seemed so important to you .

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06 Jun 2016 01:54:45
Tell me oldbhoy, who were the young players that Strachan didn't utilise for these meaningless freindliess?, there are too many to mention, as for older players that he has constantly overlooked, again there are too many, Strachan believed all the hype that he is a good manager, what makes a good manager?, is it somebody that just gets lucky and has a certain mix of players that gel together, and all he has to do is stand back and let them get on with it, but what makes a bad manager, is it someone who gets a group of players that don't gel together, and stands back with his arms folded bemoaning the fact he just doesn't have any good players , well I'll tell you, WGS like Ronnie, is a bad manager, I don't usually agree with Roy Keane, but he said something I empathised with, when he said modern teams seem to have coaches, but they should go back to having managers, or words to that effect.

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06 Jun 2016 22:31:01
In other words Aindoh, you cannot name any, fair enough that puts you at the same level as WGS and he is a pro.

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05 Jun 2016 06:29:17
Jordon Larsson get that bhoy in now before some other top European club gets him.

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05 Jun 2016 10:46:50
Could the young boy handle the pressure of being here and what his dad did here. We the fans might expect too much from him.

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05 Jun 2016 12:19:39
Lol, let's get Jordi Cruyff while we're at it. In my heart, I would love us to sign him and qet a clone of his dad but my head says only 2 chances of that working out.

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05 Jun 2016 13:07:28
Would anyone even know this Bhoy if his dad wasn't Henrik?
Cant see why we would sign him.

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05 Jun 2016 18:44:28
A stupid idea, how many sons of exceptional footballers become stars in own right . I think if his father thought it was in the bhoy's and Celtic's interest he would be with us.

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05 Jun 2016 21:18:23
Kasper schmeichel comes Tom mind but the pressure of the same club would take its toll on the boy even if he is good enough!

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05 Jun 2016 23:56:39
The fact that only one comes to your mind SOSBHOY, indicates there isn't too many even if u could name 20/ 30 it would still prove the point we don't get many top class players following their father brilliance .
I think both George Connolly and Jimmy Johnstone had sons that were quite useful, but both couldn't put up with people telling them they will never be as good as their fathers and stopped playing in mid teens.

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04 Jun 2016 16:45:21
Hi ed

Sorry to hear about your sad news ( mother in law ) . Hope the arrangements go well and that those struggling most get whatever comfort is going

On a matter that pales in to irrelevance, I wanted to qualify my David Moyes rumour. It was true and it was real. He was offered the job in February. RD was going and it wasn't TRFC result that drove change.

Celtic wanted Moyes andoues fancied it but he stalled believing that an opportunity would come up down south. DD took the job offer away believing that his reluctance demonstrated a high level of disrespect

BR was not a second choice. He wasn't even contemplated back then

I apologise for being so emphatic but Moyes was the front runner

Heard that Jason denayer could be up for a year.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate.}

05 Jun 2016 04:05:46
I don't think denayer will be back to be honest . Think he will be sitting on man cities bench this season.

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