Celtic Banter Archive July 05 2012

 

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05 Jul 2012 21:39:01
The teacher said,
"Let's begin by reviewing some American history.

Who said 'Give me Liberty , or give me Death'?"

She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Little
Hodaiki a bright foreign exchange student from
Japan , who had his hand up:
'Patrick Henry, 1775', he said.

'Very good!'

Who said, 'Government of the People, by the People,
for the People, shall not perish from the Earth?'

Again, no response except from Little Hodaiki:
'Abraham Lincoln, 1863'.

'Excellent!' said the teacher continuing,
'let's try one a bit more difficult...'

Who said, 'Ask not what your country can
do for you, but what you can do for your country?'

Once again, Hodaiki's was the only hand in
the air and he said:

'John F. Kennedy, 1961'.

The teacher snapped at the class,
'Class, you should be ashamed of yourselves,
Little Hodaiki isn't from this country and he
knows more about our history than you do.'

She heard a loud whisper: 'F . . k the Japs,'

'Who said that? I want to know right now!'
she angrily demanded.

Little Hodaiki put his hand up,
'General MacArthur, 1945.'

At that point, a student in the back said,
'I'm gonna puke.'

The teacher glared around and asks,
'All right! Now who said that!?'

Again, Little Hodaiki said,
'George Bush to the Japanese Prime
Minister, 1991.'

Now furious, another student yelled,
'Oh yeah? Suck this!'

Little Hodaiki jumped out of his chair
his hand and shouted to the teacher,
'Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!'

Now with almost mob hysteria someone said,
'You little s**t. If you say
anything else, I'll kill you.'

Little Hodaiki frantically yelled at the top of his voice,
"Michael Jackson to the child witness testifying against
him, 2004.'

The teacher fainted.

As the class gathered around the teacher
on the floor, someone said,
'Oh s**t, We're screwed!'

Little Hodaiki said quietly,

‘Ally McCoist, Rangers manager, 2012.' {Ed038's Note - Haha}

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That's a belter.pmsl

Jungle Bhoy.

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05 Jul 2012 21:14:18
Here is an interesting wee thing for
all the ex bears on here tonight and
it is a wee insight into their earlier posts...
I shall call it Schadenfreude or so all
can recognise it What goes around comes around.

In Sir Alex Ferguson's autobiography he
highlighted the reason he left Ibrox was
because senior members in the boardroom
objected to him being married to a
Roman Catholic.
Now picture this wee scenario...
If Sir Alex had been manager of RFC
during the "EBT" years signing all the
big name players. With his managerial
skills, man management skills and an
eye for a great player, he would most
probably have granted Murray his
main wish, namely winning the Big cup.
But one of their own, who would have
helped them achieve greatness was
denied this because of bigotry.
Another example of the biter being bitten.
Karma. hail hail Timalloy

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And the spin mob stried to change the story about the reason for Fergie being sold.

They claimed it was because he failed to mark Billy McNeill properly at a corner in the 1969 Scottish Cup Final, where McNeil scored and Celtic went on to win 4 - 0.

Aye right, we all believe that one. If every player was sold that failed to pick someone up at a corner, there would be no players left.

You're right Timalloy, this has been a period of Karma, where all their wrongdoings are coming back to haunt them.

But there is still more to look forward to, including the stripping of titles for dual contracts and the outcome of the BDO and the Police investigations - fraud charges are expected.

Oh happy days.

K-Dot

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And if he'd done it during the EBT years the big cup would be stripped. Thought more of you Timalloy.
VHSS

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Timalloy, that is nonsense mate. If anyone seen the guy play they will know why we got rid of him. I'm sure his last game was against you and he cost us the game. Nothing to do with his wife, who I don't believe he was even married to back then.

Mr Sporting Integrity

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Ah, Mr Sporting Integirty (not)

Fergie scored 44 goals in 57 games for Rangers.

I think you talk sh1t (know it actually).

K-Dot.

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So how many times did you see the guy playing and what did he do (playing wise) after he left Rangers ? The guy was mince. I actually know his wife personally and don't believe they were even married back then. Your goals to games is also wrong.

All this Rangers against catholics back then is a total myth. There was a few catholics who played for us before we signed Mo Johnston. You really ought to stop believeing what you read in the papers.

Mr Sporting Integrity

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05 Jul 2012 20:21:07
I do not believe that the majority of Rangers fans want to go to to Div 3 . I know that is what they are saying publically but privately they want Div 1 . Wait to see the outcry on Black Friday when Turnbull Hutton & Co turn them down.

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Totally agree ,expect Hearts, Motherwell, Dundee utd, Aberdeen etc to become newco's and be debt free if the only punishment is to drop one division.......Stevie

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OP...you wish
VHSS

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05 Jul 2012 18:46:36
I am getting really fed up with all this
"Scottish football will die" rubbish.
I read that season ticket sales are
up or on par with last season.
The SKY/ESPN deal is still in place and
in fact one lucky SPL team will get
ex club's tv money.
I think also that it has made all clubs
much more aware that they need to do
more for their club and fans to raise
money and not be dependant on any
one or two teams.
You will start to see new iniatives
and new ideas to attract sponsorship.
I think we should also change name
of SPL to INTEGRITY LEAGUE lol Timalloy

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More aware ! Are you insinuating that clubs other than Rangers have been guilty of a lack of sincerity towards their own supporters ? My god... banish them all and throw away the key
VHSS

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05 Jul 2012 18:35:03
GET CELTIC INTO THE PREMIER LEAGUE {Ed038's Note - Celtic are in the Premier League}

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05 Jul 2012 17:55:40
No more Rangers, it feels good just sayin it {Ed038's Note - They should call the rangers rumours page SEVCO rumours IMO}

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Sounds good when you transpose it as rangers no more. Song there.
Yorkiebhoy.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. Afterall, along with cheating the whole of Scottish fitba, they were also guilty of providing you with an excuse for every whoa in your life....lol. No excuses now !
VHSS

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05 Jul 2012 17:44:28
I would like to see all celtic players celebrating all goals this season,like they did in the 1960s, hands in the air and a pat on the back,[ Lets celebrate 60s style] hail hail

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05 Jul 2012 16:58:42
Inter Milan join Celtic to celebrate 125 years of proud history

CELTIC Football Club is delighted to announce that it is to play Inter Milan in a high-profile glamour match at Celtic Park, kicking-off Celtic´s 125th anniversary celebrations in style.

The match will take place on Saturday, July 28, with a 1:30pm kick-off.
Italian Serie-A giants Inter will bring their star-studded international line up to Celtic Park and the fixture will also re-kindle memories of Celtic´s greatest achievement, when we became the first British club to lift the European Cup, the biggest prize in club football.

There will be a number of other activities around the match for supporters and members of the Lisbon Lions team will be present to join in the celebrations.

Celtic Manager Neil Lennon said: "History is something to respect and to cherish and we are delighted therefore to be celebrating 125 years of Celtic in such a manner.

“The match will be a magnificent event where we welcome some top players to Glasgow and, of course, honour those who have played such an important role in Celtic´s past.

“It is magnificent that Celtic is able to bring such a big name to Scottish football and I am sure this will be an occasion which our supporters, across many generations, will wish to experience.

"From my perspective, as well as being a very poignant fixture, this will also be a real test for my team and one they are looking forward to immensely.

“The next few weeks are very important to us as we prepare for the new season and, of course, European football - the match against Inter will be an important element in our preparation."

Celtic Legend and Ambassador Billy McNeill added: "This will be a tremendous occasion and one which all the Lions are looking forward to immensely.

“Myself and the other members of the Lisbon Lions team are fortunate enough to have a place in Celtic´s history and we are very proud to have played our part in the last 125 years.

“Celtic in our minds will always be one of the world´s greatest clubs in terms of its origins, its proud history of success, its spirit and of course its supporters.

“It will be all these things which we will celebrate on July 28 and what better way to do it, than against one of the other great names in European football".

Ticket Prices for the match are as follows:
Season Book Holders: £15 adults and £5 concessions
Non-season book holders: £20 and £10 concessions

These will be available firstly to season book holders and can be purchased from 9:30am tomorrow (Friday) at the Celtic Park ticket office, on www.celticfc.net or by calling 0871 226 1888*
Tickets are on general sale to non-season book holders from Friday, July 13.

Jungle Bhoy.

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05 Jul 2012 16:09:20
Not a transfer rumour but just a question ed , if the voting structure gets changed in spl could teams demand a 50-50 split in the gates for all games or is this just scaremongering ? {Ed038's Note - That will never happen}

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05 Jul 2012 14:43:49
GJ. You are one of the regular contributors to this site and the Rangers pages. You repeatedly harp on about morals and integrity.
Last week you accused me of being a "sectarian bigot" regarding my post about Donald Findlay. Given the fact that the highly regarded and so called respected journalist Alex Thomson only yesterday used an identical phrase in identical context to that of mine,i would be interested to hear what your thoughts are in regard to Mr Thomson.
If indeed as you purport yourself to be a champion of integrity and rightousness,
then the very least you can do is afford me the courtesy of an explanation.
Why has AT emerged unscathed,while i was venomously castigated.
Not a "Grand gesture" as such, but in the likely event of a concise explanation being impossible,it would be a gesture nonetheless if you stood by your self proclaimed principles of morality and integrity by either attempting one or offering an apology to me.
Could it be that the only difference between AT and myself is that i am a Rangers supporter,and he is not?
P.O.B.

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P.O.B Green Jhedi has been found out for being a hypocrite before, wouldn't waste my time looking for an explanation.
JG

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P.O.B - GJ can answer for himself, but as someone reading both what you said and what Tomo said, here is my take on it:

You quite clearly condoned Donald Findlay singing sectarian songs. Simple as that.

Tomo condemed Findlay, stating:

"Infamous for leading sectarian singing at an Ibrox function in 1999, he may have been forced out of Rangers over that unfortunate musical issue ........ "

Tomo is condeming the guy. The use of the words "infamous" and "unfortunate" I think are a little clue to that.

What you and what Tomo have to say about Findlay are the complete opposites.

On here again are you, trying to stir things up. Why don't you simply go away as Ed007 has alreday warned you, and the regulars on this site know exactly what you are up to.

Any before you come back with your usual pathetic rantings in your own defence, stating that things have been taken out of context, etc. I will not be responding to you again as you are not welcome here.

K-Dot.

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We're all prone to errors of judgement from time to time JG everyone deserves a second chance. Let's see where we go from here. There can be no logical explanation anyway,but we'll see if he's man enough to at least apologise.
P.O.B.

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Green jedi,Celtic legend

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Does anyone else find it strange that immediately after "POB" posts another poster appears with initials this time "JG" in support of him without waiting for any reply?
POB or whatever, your paranoia is showing, chill out. You keep asking others for answers but never answer questions people ask you? I asked you last week had you bought a ST and what you thought of your ex club's banking arrangements, I am still waiting on an answer. You asked the ST question to our Mrs E, so please answer us.
As our ED007 told you, stop posting insults and engage in a proper debate.
Timalloy

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The only reason i will reply to this is because you seem to think you have been unjustly castigated.The reason i,and ED007 as it happens,criticized you was because of this:I actually did not call you a sectarian bigot,i accused you of being sympathetic to a sectarian bigot,Findlay.Your quote was along the lines of"it was a rangers night,in a rangers venue with rangers people" as if that somehow makes it ok.It clearly does not.The quote you refer to re Thommo,was not exactly the same,similar,but not exact,and was in your reply to my criticism.No apology here,just an explanation.i hope that will suffice as i am starting to find you tedious in the extreme.No need to reply. @JG: And when would that be? My view on the newco situation has not changed.Again having read some of your posts,please dont feel the need to reply as i will not.............green jhedi

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P.O.B Why do you insist on calling yourself a Rangers supporter? Rangers DO NOT EXIST!

DAMO1888

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P.O.B can u honestly justify anyone anywhere ever being bigoted and sharing bigoted views. Be it a bigoted celt or a bigoted sevco fan that is spewing the bile, it is upto good people to point out to them that what they are saying is unnaccceptable. If they will not stop we must report them. We have to send a message that bigoted behaviour in 21st century scotland will not be accepted. To defend someones bigoted behaviour is akin to the offense in the first place. If donald finlay wants to sing his songs in his own company there is nothing anyone can do about it , but as soon as that pish comes out of his mouth in public then good people should verbally slap him down. Again it doesnt matter what side u support u should not accept bigotry of any sort.
Johhnybhoy (proud of accepting people as they are regardless of race, religion or anything else for that matter.)

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I also slated u for ur comments about condoning Donald Findlay signing sectarian songs as "it was a rangers karaoke nite" and I stand by them P.O.B. It was a ridiculous statement to make! I feel sorry for the average, remorseful rangers (or what ever u want to call them) fans for ur clubs shocking antics but not people like u! Green Jhedi comes on here every day and speaks a lot off sense with his views n is well respected! U on the other hand come on here clutching straws, trying to stir sh*t up all the time! Get a life mate! Are u best mates with John Brown by any chance?

Byars

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The unfortunate thing about all of this is that gj and his wee sidekick tonka toy post their more controversial material
on the rangers site.they are less so when bleating to their own ed007. i have to take ed007's word that he does not view the pages from rr.
i had asked ed007 to review these in the interests of fairness as he was unaware of the full story,relying only on a distorted version from the two ronnies.
he declined to do so,stating that he had no desire to view the rangers site.this was hardly tantamount to agreeing with gj, as he was not aware of the full context behind the post.
ed007 therefore also did me a disservice.
i will when he returns(from illness) be asking the same of ed007 rearding alex thomson's use of the same term in the same context. fact gj.
your hypocrisy was not that obvious to me prior to tonight,however it is now evident to any fair minded individual that you are contrite and inconsistent.
jg's opinion is therefore substantiated, you are a hypocrite,a distorter of truth,and a manipulator of facts.
the evidence is there,it is uncontestable.
as for the jedhi's "supporters club" your blind faith is baffling. anyone can see the discrepancies in his posts,they are numerous and consistent. blind affinity only makes you look foolish and appear incapable of having your own mindset.
gj. an explanation of your smear campaign was never tenable,and you have merely consolidated this view with your reply.
i did however consider the possibility that you may have been man enough to apologise. clearly i was wrong. that is more indicative of your morals and integrity than anything i can possibly advocate. i take solace from the fact that the full presentation of facts is preserved for posterity on both sites.that fact alone satisfies me.
they say the battle is won when you can no longer hear the enemy.
p.o.b. {ed038's note - green jhedi is a legend!}

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Did everyone see what happened here ,everyone got together as a team to defend one of our own . Pity some others across the city could not do that instead of dividing their support . Although i suppose it helps to weed out some of the watp brigade for the decent Sevco fans.

din22

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POB your kind of trampled all over your "moral indignation" with silly name calling - again.
Still not answered my questions re ST or bank facilities. never mind leave you with this wee song...
OH IT'S CRYING TIME TONIGHT!!
hugs and xxxxxxx's Timalloy
PS Green Jhedi Rocks......

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While you are exhibiting all the attributes of a troll,namely posting till you get the last word,you must realise you are wrong.Bond was aware of the full context of that particular post,he told you that,and anybody who read it can see you clearly tried to defend it with your ludicrous,"night,venue and people" argument.There is no distorted version of your post,most of the posters here have read it.To deny that ED 007 did not agree with me is simply stupid and deluded.How on earth you seem to think i am "contrite and inconsistent" Really? Where do i show any contrition?You are correct on one thing though,the facts are there and apart from JG( your mum?) people agree with me. Smear campaign?, i will call out anyone i think has behaved in a racist or sectarian manner.One final question for you,a simple yes/no: was donald findlay behaving in a sectarian manner.............green jhedi

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Guys, we were wondering if P.O.B. was also someone else.

Indeed he is.

P.O.B. and Bomber Brown are one and the same - both full of absolute sh1t.

P.O.B. played for a stadium, hic, hic, pass me the buckie.

K-Dot.

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And your last line is exactly what this is all about isn't it K-Dot?
Such a shame,i'll really miss your articulated grown up comments.
P.O.B.

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Tonight won't be the first occasion Tim.
But you have already made a total backside of yourself on the same subject.
I did post a reply to your question last week. Try using the search option at the top the page.
Further proof of your ignorance and misrepresentation of facts. Blinding Innit!
P.O.B. {Ed038's Note - God you love this page P.O.B}

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I don't do walking away Ed! Lol.
P.O.B.

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Do you ever get bored of yourself P.O.B.? Get a f***ing life man, whit. What a waste of time m8 get outside and get living who gives a flying f*** about Donald Findlay or how many interpretations there are of the english language (spit) i'm on my lunch and you've just wasted it for me, my own choice but f**k me what a waste of my time. Boring b*****d. TRP.

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05 Jul 2012 14:10:04
To the people who run scottish football rangers no longer exist and no matter how hardyou try you cant bring them back,the spl clubs belive they can survive without newco and possibly the sfl also , the fans of newco want to do the right thing now and apply for entrance into div3 but still you tell us we cant survive without rangers a club that no longer exists this makes me think .(A) you are all bigots who cant bearto live without your old club or(B)you are out of touch with the fans and in reallity cant run your organisations properly ,,,,,deep river bhoy

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Can you explain "your all bigots"? What exactly has that to do with which league Rangers play in?
What a stupid remark.

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"The SPL clubs believe they can survive"
Are you mad DRB?
What about Kilmarnock,St Mirren,and Motherwell.They have already stated their concern regarding the financial implications.
You know what's really annoying? The amount of arrogant deluded Celtic fans who despite other club's chairmen repeatedly voicing their concerns,CFC fans still think scottish football is in a good place and can only prosper without one of the bigger clubs.
All of this has absolutely NOTHING to do with bias,affinity,or even integrity. It is simply about trying to preserve what we have. And at best that can only be viewed as average. Why can't you see that?
It is not arrogance from RFC fans our game should not have to rely on the success or downfall of a single club all things being equal but it does need the "Old firm". For various reasons,if people can't see that then quite simply they are arrogant misguided fools.
A good analogy would be the Boat race.
Oxford vs Cambridge. Take one of them away,what are you left with?
P.O.B.

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P.o.b how many divisions are there in scotland , celtic or the old rangers have not been in 3 of them yet they survive , all the premier teams will have to review their structures but saying that scottish football cant survive without newco is arrogant and deluded this will have to be proven over the next few seasons ,also if if newco fans follow follow in the same numbers then the shot in the arm to the lower divisions would be immense , also re the boat race analogy there are 42 teams in scotland not two or am i arrogant and deluded again,,, to the person with no name i think my view is clear enough, the spl sfl sfa leaders are either rabid rangers fans or incompetent, or are you thinking that by your all i meant everybody in scotland apart from me,,,,,,deep river bhoy

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You are missing the point DRB.
I'm unsure as to whether this is deliberate to avoid facts,or you genuinely cant see what's going on here.
The SPL is "The Daddy" or has been until now. Why do you think this is?
Fans are the lifeblood of the game. This is unquestionable.The "old firm" were the catalyst for the power held and weilded by the SPL over both the SFL and the SFA. The money generated by the SPL through fanbase,sponsorship,investment tv,radio,and other media outlets is paramount to it's survival. As is the financial output that is drip fed down the divisions.
If TRFC are out of the SPL for one year,there will be a £5million deficit to the SPL. Three years out,and this multiplies to almost £16million.
That is why the SFA and SFL are considering league reconstruction.They have wanted it for years,but Rangers and Celtic,alongside the SPL vetoed this.
Rangers being out of the SPL weakens both Celtic and the SPL's clout. It also puts the SFL and the SFA in a stronger position to negotiate with the other clubs.More clubs = more fans collectively.
Div1,Div2,and Div3 plus Rangers,i'd say that was more influential than even Celtic, and the other poorly supported leeches in the SPL,wouldn't you GRB?
Celtic are more vulnerable today than they ever were without their old firm bed buddy.You just watch how the others carve them up.
This is not arrogance DRB,it is simple economic reality.
P.O.B.

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Pob , the point is we are at this position because the old co and then whyte are guilty of mismanaging old co / newco, cheating the Taxman and might yet be Found guilty of cheating all the other clubs with the ebt dual contracts scheme and not because to use the words of an oldco song no one likes us we dont care, this whole saga was of oldco/newcos making and They need to be punished for it , otherwise we should just scrap all the leagues now , i dont know What you do for a living it could be you are some sort of financial whizzkid or a clarvoyant but no one can Tell with 100% certainty What will happen of newco go to div3

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05 Jul 2012 13:38:45
can someone explain to me how without rangers
scottish football will die yet if they have to go to div three
they will come back bigger and stonger am I missing something ?..col

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I think you must have went for a "wee nap" proportionate to that of Rip Van Winkle, if you don't know the answer to that one Col. Scottish football won't die but the future of the SPL is hanging on a very shaky peg. The SFA have been trying for years to oust the SPL, and introduce league reconstruction which embraces all clubs under the one umbrella with fairer distribution of finances.
Rangers,Celtic and the SPL vetoed this repeatedly.
Just watch what happens. Don't be surprised by anything.
Ironically the so called "weaker" association (SFL) hold all the aces at present.If they have any sense they will vote RFC into their league set up. If they don't yes Scottish football may die,but i doubt they will kick us out entirely for this reason. However they may want three years of a cash cow scenario from us in preference to one. This means less money for the SPL over a longer period.
I think it will be Div1 personally.
P.O.B.

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05 Jul 2012 13:24:32
was it a 11-1 vote ?

MurphyBhoy {Ed038's Note - 10-1 and Killmarnock abstained}

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Ed,do you know why Killie abstained?I haven't seen anywhere the reason why they did.I've heard their fans are raging with Johnston but nothing else.

Jungle Bhoy. {Ed038's Note - I don't know why they abstained mate but your right killie fans are calling for Johnston to be sacked.}

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It may have something to do with the fact that Killie are £11.2 million in debt.

Ian

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Abstained because lawwell has him by the short and curlys through his complicity in ebt deals for boyd and naismith

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I have said it on here before Kilmarnock were supposedly in on the EBTs with Rangers they were introduced to them via the Boyd and Naismith deals,this was the reason they have been so quiet!! It will come out shortly that this was celtics nuclear info

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05 Jul 2012 13:24:08
am i right in thinking now celtic are
the only team in britain to have
played top flight football.

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Not too sure about that 1.
Think Liverpool, Everton and possibly a couple of London clubs have never been relegated. I could be wrong with all of them though.

Joeshmo1888

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They have all been relegated from top flight
think i read somewhere only wigan havent been relegeted from top flight footy

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Arsenal have alway played in the top flight along with Everton , neither has ever been relegated , in Scotland Celtic have been in the top division in every season since it started in 1890 , Aberdeen are the only other team never to be relegated from the top flight . {Ed001's Note - not true, both Everton and Arsenal have been relegated.}

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05 Jul 2012 12:44:47
Stewart Regan The Hampden supremo talked of meltdown and Armageddon for the game in an emotional declaration designed to persuade SFL clubs to back the SFA’s plea to let Rangers join the First Division.

Regan, said: “Without Rangers, there is social unrest and a big problem for Scottish society.

Wait a minute am I missing something here, I thought that with Rangers (In Liquidation) there were serious problems for , well need I list them, suffice to say just about everyone.

Has this man no shame at all, give us a break Stewart, think about how it was not so many years ago (before Murray) Dundee United, Aberdeen winning European trophies.

Who can really say this will not happen again, please stop with all the doom and gloom just accept that your team is pretty much cone and dusted, live with it, no one to blame but themselves, move on.

Lost Bhoy 50

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Don't think Regan is doing Sevco any favours here. We know Sevco supporters do not want to be placed in Div 1. They want to try and regain some dignity by doing the right thing re: starting again in Div 3. Gotta wonder if this guy has another ajenda up his sleeve because to me, his comments of "civil unrest" and Scottish Fitba will suffer greatly if Sevco aren't allowed into Div 1, seem more likely to heap more mud on Sevco . At some point, a healing process will have to begin and I for one would like to think that if there's one thing that any SFA supremo should be attempting to do, at this moment in time, it should be encouraging that process to happen. Sadly, it appears to me, that his statements will do anything but
VHSS

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05 Jul 2012 12:23:33
how does this sound. newco start in division 3. sfl promise spartans and cove that they will be guaranteed admission at the start of season 14/15. at the start of 14/15 we go to two leagues of 16 and one league of 12. in the leagues of 16 we all play each other twice = 30 games then a split where the top eight play each other another twice as would the bottom eight = 44 games. more games = more revenue , this would give celtic a chance to play our massive squad.. the league of 12 play each other four times each = 44 games.. one up one down automatically 2nd and third bottom and 2nd and 3rd top of the league below go into a draw for a home and away play off for relegation/ promotion place. exciting games at end of season. .. or how about the argentinian way relegation / promotion is decided on a three season average , and that means no team can rest on their laurels , just because they are already safe . ? opinions.. shamrock

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05 Jul 2012 11:38:53
Just checking out the feedback from the newco supporters meeting last night,and very interesting it is.It would seem John Brown is starting to annoy a lot of the decent fans with his stupidity and publicity seeking.Regarding the issue that seems to trouble him most,who owns ibrokes and murray park,it would appear that the rfff have seen the deeds and were happy with them.Would that be enough for Brown? Nah! Then Mr Stockbridge,director of newco,offered Brown and his sharp legal mind,exposed bigot donald findlay,a meeting at ibrokes to show the relevant documents.From a rainy interview outside ibrokes on sly,through the farcical steps of ibrokes meeting to the Radio Clyde slot,Brown has had one constant,the deeds and donald findlays perusing of them.Knowing this i would have expected Brown and findlay to be pictured striding up to look this documentation over with a fine tooth comb.Brown then,unbelievably,refused the meeting saying findlay did not want to be seen to be helping rangers! His last gambit was to claim a consortium he was involved with bid 11m,this was refused by D&P in favour of the Green consortium 5.5m bid.This is illegal,lets hope you have proof of this one John as we know D&P dont mind going to court.Some supporters asked brown to name his backer or backers in this bid.A fair question,and very pertinent considering the last couple of purchasers.Brown,the man who demands clarity refused! I hope all those mugs who cheered him at ibrokes were listening..............green jhedi

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05 Jul 2012 11:29:46
First time poster would be grateful if you could post.
Was listening to talksport this morning(not the most reliable I know) but they (Alan Brazil i think)was saying that should rangers go down to div. 3 that Celtic would only last 12-18 months before having to sell their top players.This he claimed was from a top guy in Scottish football hence the reason 80% of the huns voting for 3rd division status. Is this true do you know.
Dublin Celt {Ed038's Note - Welcome to the site mate, no I don't know sorry}

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Brazil is by far the most arrogant to55er on radio,and on talksh*te thats saying something.Dont be fooled by his !im a celtic fan" crap,he appears when there is a freebie against rangers.He knows nothing about the game up here and to make things worse he is a TORY and loves bankers( no rhyming slang intended!).......green jhedi

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05 Jul 2012 10:34:02
DR now claiming the SPL chairmen duped Charlse Green into believing the would welcome his newco into their league...hmmm havent 8 of the 11 clebs publicly stated in the past 2 weeks that they would be voting no?

On another note, dont know what the most embarassing thing would be from the vote....that the Kilmarnock chairmen didnt have the blls to vote either way or that the only yes they got came from themselves, who should never have had any right to a vote in the first place.

Mikey Bhoy

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05 Jul 2012 09:10:47
i know you all hate the red tops papers on here but there was an interesting piece in one of them yesterday. it was broken down club by club with specific numbers. basically what it said was if a team loses 6 visits from newco over the next 3 years at a total loss of £500,000 , divide that amount by 114 { home games over 3 years} and all they need is an extra 200 fans per home game to make up the loss . so for example if your average crowd is 7000 up that to 7200 and no loss of income, add another 200 and sky would not be missed either . if i mind right inverness would only need an extra 96 people at home games.. doesn't seem so bad whe put like that. for celtic around 650 .. shamrock

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Although they have been pushing this financial agenda i have still to see an argument that stands up to scrutiny.The theory has been discredited every time.Maybe if we got a chance to question reporters properly on phone ins it would help........green jhedi

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04 Jul 2012 23:51:59
So no Newco in the SPL. Great to see that integrity has won today! Because of this, it is vital that we qualify for the Champions League. If we do, at least we won't feel the hurt that other SPL clubs may suffer.
Ed, if we failed to make it to the Champions League, what kind of financial issues would we have to face.

Thanks,

Ontario Bhoy {Ed001's Note - Celtic will just have to tighten their belts, nothing more, the club is not reliant on Champions League money to survive.}

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04 Jul 2012 23:38:56
A tell u what this is a romours site but this is fact use will be signing no player over a million it will b free tranfers or players like fantastic Freddie that warmed ure bench for his wages that's the people use will get and and when use go out of the cl lawell wo get use somebody like du wee to get money from Japan or wherever there r millions of people lawell is fooling use guys aswell as for the clubs wanting there share of the money why don't they stop ripping the old firm fans off charging us a fortune for tickets

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Just signed a player for £2M go and boil your head!! VEGIEBHOY

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What old firm ole rangers are dead celtics on ther own you are a new company an name now.. derbycelt

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Dear god,try and type in English. Dont worry about us,Always were and always will be CELTIC...........green jhedi

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We have just signed a player for £2m just to prove you wrong.

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WE HAVE JUST SIGNED A KEEPER FOR £2 MILLION YA TRUMPET

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What are you talking about can you break this down into proper english please. I got the free transfers and nothing over 1 million then I lost you. As for the 1 million we have just spent 2 million on our keeper so thats the 1 million pound fact blown out the water.

Ian

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We just signed Forster for 2million is that not more than 1 mystic meg

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Can someone buy this guy a full stop please?Celtic don't need to spend big on players anymore,look at the gems that are being signed.Buy low,sell high,that's the way all businesses should be run not buy high,pay them money a club doesn't have,create a disaster and hope everyone just bends over and allows a club all the benefits that it cheated to get before.Why do you think we have scouts at all our games?Teams have noticed we have a fantastic scouting system in place and IMO that is the way to go.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Lawell has kept us solvent whilst you have been cooking the books, our prudence has benifited with us staying spl champions, whilst you have died due to financial irregularities, use your season book money to get a spell check,

Ska bhoy

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I hardly think so but even if we did I'm sure we'll get yoused to it and either way we'll still have a team to follow! You walked into that one! TRP.

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Dry your eyes you sad bitter little man

hoopey67

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Du Wei is Korean not Japanise, and am sure our last Japanise player, Nakamura brought plenty of coffers in to CFC, and wee are already looking at players around the 2.5m price, also there is no old firm to have old firm fans, I'm only interested in Celtic not the rip off to ex Rangers fans, although I do believe that you may have been ripped off enough over the last while

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Oi Einstein, can you bog off and polute your unwashed, insolvent, league-less pages please. Nobody wants brain dead moron's who cant even use a simple word like "use" in the correct context. Did you see how I managed to get it right there. At least Mr. Lawell is creditable, solvent and hasnt sold the season ticket money nor (yes thats correct, its nor not or) has he made a royal d1ck of himself to get your former club reformed and called it something silly and then pleaded to get back into SPL only to; now what is the word i am looking for............"FAIL". You will be familiar with that word, end result of all your exams at school if you took any, your driving test if you took it, job interviews.....That one was a joke as "use" are on the dole eh........WATP (we aren't tax payers). CFC1888 (and still going).

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The shift and full stop keys are not your enemy, using them will make your fevered rantings more legible. Secondly, having just signed Fraser Forster for £2mil that's your theory blown to bits already. Thirdly, Du Wei was Chinese not Japanese...or do they all look alike to you?

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I don't get this, blame Peter Lawell for everything nonsense. Let me guess, he also stole all the full stops in the land?

It's because of people like Lawell that Celtic are in such a sound financial position. But no, (some) Celtic fans call him penny pinching and (some of) the old Rangers fans called him Liewell. The irony of that isn't lost on me. So maybe people should get of Lawell's back.

The Patient.

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I think you'll find we've just paid 2 million for our gk so thats you wrong straight away.
ps enjoy peterhead,elgin,berwick next season thats if they vote you in
davy

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04 Jul 2012 22:48:34
After a day spent digesting the reporting of the newco situation i have a strange warm feeling! Firstly,well done to the fans of the clubs who exerted pressure on boardrooms the length of the country to ensure the right choices were made.Make no mistake,this is a momentous day,sporting integrity over financial gain,clubs listening to fans and acting on their wishes.We now,at last,have a chance to regain football from faceless men in suits who are more interested in pension top ups than keepy ups.
I would urge fans of other clubs,support your teams,get the season book or if it is not financially possible,get to as many games as possible.I also feel that Celtic must step up and show support at this time.Lets try and get more supporters travelling to away games.Thinking on these lines how about this:Why dont Celtic,as a grand gesture,offer to let clubs visiting Parkhead keep their own supports ticket money? As a reciprocal gesture,they could drop £5 from what we pay when visiting them and give a larger allocation.
We of course have an enormous part to play in this.Lets follow the lead of the Green Brigade,lets get to as many games as possible,home and away,and back the Bhoys 100%.These could be amazing times of change,we the fans,of all clubs,could influence the game in Scotland and beyond.Lets show some respect,no more IRA chants,not even added on at the end is acceptable.Remember other people find this wrong,as i do,and i think after the newco vote,these fans deserve our respect.As for Killie,Lots of their fans are raging that Johnston abstained instead of showing leadership,so lets not hear talk of boycotts,i think his days are numbered going ny what i have read...............green jhedi

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Good post Jhedi!! VEGIEBHOY

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GJ I totally agree with you statement from start to finish. I for one would go to every game involving Celtic if tickets were available and work commitments permit. I also have to say Peter Lawell is a genius. I think the way he has handled this has been fantastic. I just hope now that we push ahead with some signings for the CL and push on in Scotland also.


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Very good post GJ. I wasn't surprised by Killie - as the old saying about more buses leave there to go to Govan than Rugby Park - so they were 'diplomatic' lol.
Totally agree re Republican chants/songs as we have a huge repertoire of Celtic anthems and chorus (not to mention the additional humorous verses that our creative supporters often think up.
I also hope the remaining SPL clubs come up with ticket plans and incentives to bring more armchair fans back to football.
All that remains is devising a new TV deal or 'stream' facility well away from SLY.
Apart from the derisory pittance of a share that Scots clubs obtain from their huge coffers - in relation to England; They have conducted themselves disgracefully in their coverage of 'The Piss-Artists Formerly Known as Rangers'.
Their reports have been totally one-sided and selective and their latest offering yesterday with 'conflict of interest' merchant Gordon Smith - who gloated and pontificated about how their fans wanted to go to Div3 so Scottish football will die in the next 3 years...
I hope The Celtic hierarchy have taken note of the tone and content of these 'totally impartial' media outlets (inc STV) for future reference.

Jungle Jim

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WELL SAID.

JAMBO

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Well said GJ, my books all bought and paid for, and will support team home and away, even at killie, I think attendances will rise at other clubs,

Ska bhoy

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Great post GJ , you took the word straight out my mouth , it is time fans of the other clubs start buying season books and attending games in their numbers , Celtic fans will support yous by attending games in your stadiums , we need your help , we can't do it all , together we can show Mssrs Regan , Doncaster , Longmuir , the Laptop Loyal and all detractors of a Zombie FC persuasion that we can not only survive , but prosper and flourish without them , let's do this c'mon . Drewzybhoy .

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GJ's last comment about avoiding boycotts of Kilmarnock says it all. Good points about a time for erradicating offensive songs though.

One point to consider GJ - Stewart Regan's comments about the possible death of Scottish Football in Rangers are not in Division 1 next year should set alarm bells ringing all over - as well as the 'get out' clauses in sponsorship/ tv contracts. What's to stop Rangers now merely seeking entry into Division 3 and not seeking entry into Division 1? If that's the choice of all fans, Rangers, Celtic and other clubs alike, then unless Rangers AGREE to go into Division 1 (assuming, of course, that the SFL clubs are pressganged into making such a decision to allow us in the first place) Regan is effively saying that aslow and lingering death will follow. I said it before about Turkeys voting for Christmas, so unless 'sporting integrity' is conveniently forgotten by the other clubs everyone is goosed................Will you still harbour that 'warm feeling' if that happens?

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Maybe now the families can start to return to other clubs stadiums so all the other chairman need to do is go with family oriented matchdays.Say buy adult season ticket get kid's free,as the money comes in then they could pay for face painters,etc to create a good atmosphere.

Jungle Bhoy.

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For the benefit of the wealth of sarcastic posters slagging off the OP's punctuation and spelling etc the correct spelling of your CEO's surname is Lawwell and not Lawell. May I also point out that it's customary to use capital letters at the start of a person (or deity's) name, i.e. God in lieu of god, Green Jhedi in lieu of green jhedi, I in lieu of i. :)

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04 Jul 2012 22:24:43
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=2760

Celtic statement, time to fill our stadium bhoy's n ghirl's. maccabhoy88

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04 Jul 2012 21:52:07
Just been on Rangers (ia) Media site .The bears den is advertising sky broadband /tv . I thought they would have made sure they had nothing to do with sky or is it a waste of time for all the bears cancelling. Or is this sky 'kicking' while down also.I'm sure sky are s**tting themselves with the huge loss of revenue. lol

din22

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It won't be Sky who'll be sh**ting themselves - it'll be the SPL clubs!!

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04 Jul 2012 21:32:51
Does everyone realise that if the
SFA take Rangers titles from them
and award them to us,we will be
going for number 16 in a row and we
will pass their 54 total.
A new world record, which will
increase year on year, far into the
distant future.

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