Celtic Banter Archive February 05 2018

 

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05 Feb 2018 21:47:10
Ed - just an observation. Checked in tonight for a bit of banter and thoughts after weekend and it's all things Scotland and NFL! Maybe a good thing tho.

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{Ed007's Note - It takes all kinds mate - and we've got all kinds on here!}

05 Feb 2018 18:36:48
Steve Clarke has more chance of being the next Celtic manager with Lennon the Lurgan Hunskeler at his side than them becoming the next Scotland manager and assistant respectively. Not overly concerned to be honest but think EBT WATTIE is a step backwards. I also think the Huns missed a trick not going for Tommy Wright rather than Dougal out of Father Ted. ☘️.

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05 Feb 2018 09:02:07
Not a Celtic rumour more an observation, the cardigan as Scotland manager? Would the ludicrous tartan army, still makes me snigger, accept this? Days after the sms DEMAND a fresh start, a new broom, sunlight being let in etc, this what they pitch to supporters?

Again, only in Scotland.

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05 Feb 2018 14:03:33
To be honest, what’s the alternative? McLeish? McKay?

When there is an empty barrel then I think Smith would be a good shout. I must admit I didn’t read those new broom comments anywhere.

Can you post the source of this?

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05 Feb 2018 15:04:03
Tommy Wright would be my choice.

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05 Feb 2018 16:03:41
Steve Clarke Neil Lennon job share would be my suggestion.

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05 Feb 2018 15:34:48
Time we forgot about the old school managers, they would just take us back in time, we have a load of great young players coming through and some experienced ones already plying their trade, my choice steve clarke. I would prefer a scot to be in charge.

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05 Feb 2018 16:47:58
Would it work as a part time job, with social media and what ever, that is available nowadays, a club boss could keep track of all available talent, maybe with a full time assistant Scotland manager, to give hands on feed back,

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05 Feb 2018 16:50:47
Don't need a big manager that wants to reinvent the game. Just need a good organiser. That's why Brown was good at the job.

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05 Feb 2018 16:54:59
Read a couple of days ago Scot Gemmill was inm with a shout and I thought WTF, but after reading more into it and what he has done with the U21's and U17's he might be worth as shout.
At least he may be more willing to bring the younger boys through.

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05 Feb 2018 20:12:37
Abolish national football would be my shout, pain in the arse.

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06 Feb 2018 11:32:51
It's only a pain in the arse because in relation to real class, we produce hee haw. We supposedly have the cream if the crop and yet not one of this group looks capable if taking a first team berth.

Well there is one, but the heed yins at the academy ket him go for us to piss £1.5m up the wall to buy him back.

Sums up the academy for me.

Pep couldn't get us to a final because in the cold light of reality we don't have enough class. We have plenty if hard working players who will run through a brick wall. Put a baw their feet and it all unravels though.

It might technically be a bit easier to qualify for the next euros. But will it be enough for us? I don't think so. A scan around our game and it's the same story. Not bad players, fit and committed but technically deficient.

Now that's a pain in the arse. No matter how good a manager is, he is hogtied by a pool of players who just aren't competitive at international level.

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{Ed007's Note - World Cups and the Euros are a pain in the arse and they don't involve Scotland. International football across the board is garbage, whether it's Scotland, England or Brazil the standard of football is dire - that's the pain the arse.}

06 Feb 2018 11:55:11
And we can't even get there. Shows you how bad we are then doesn't it? It's all shit, but we are even more rubbish than the rubbish who beat us.

I would certainly enjoy a finals better if we had a team there who could actually play a bit of football. Right now me replacing Daniel Craig as the next Bond looks a better bet.

Scottish football produces no better than no bad 90% of the time. Apart from KT I don't see any young players of real class for the future in any team in our league. We can take on the worlds pain in the arse, but we can do something about our own hopefully.

I won't hold my breath. 22 years is a long time for that caper.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't want Celtic players dragged all over the world playing international football, they're Celtic players and they are well rewarded for being Celtic players so why force even more games and more risk of injury on them?
I'd happily see the pain in the arse that is international football scrapped altogether, it's a huge relief for me every time Scotland fail to qualify for a tournament.}

06 Feb 2018 12:59:24
And what about the players themselves? They don't want to show their talents at a major final? That's something everybody who ever seriously kicked a baw dreams of.

I agree about the number of pointless, stupid friendlies, but it gives those taking part a chance to attempt to shine. Just like the CL.

Players have always been contracted to clubs. Imagine if your player cost £200m and an injury there is very costly
but I never see them moaning about it.

I think we would enjoy more if we weren't third rate.

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{Ed007's Note - If Scotland reached the World Cup final I'd probably put the PS4 on instead of watching it. I don't care what Scotland do, I don't care if they win or lose and I couldn't care less whether they're third rate or tenth rate. International football is garbage - that's ALL international football - and I haven't watched a Scotland game in years, I think it was the France '98 opener against Brazil.
You seem to be tying my dislike of international football to Scotland's success, I don't care if they win or lose but it is a hell of a lot funnier when they lose.}

06 Feb 2018 13:30:08
Why do you dislike them so much? Is it the old rangers bias and treatment of our players back in the day? When I say back in the day I of course mean nearly half a century ago.

If it's not that then what's the issue? Not with international football just wanting Scotland to lose?

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{Ed007's Note - You're not getting this are you Read this slowly and let it sink in - I hate ALL international football not just Scotland games, I have no interest in it and even this conversation about it is starting to bore me. But it is hilarious reading all the meltdowns from the Tartan Fanny members when Scotland inevitably lose. I don't want any international team that calls-up Celtic players to qualify for tournaments where they're playing even more games and risking injuries.
I've no idea what happened 50 years ago, considering I wasn't born then means I had even less of an interest in the Scotland team.}

06 Feb 2018 13:55:36
Fair enough.

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06 Feb 2018 19:12:37
Cmon stephbhoy2, i think international football is great, but only when your country qualifies for the big tournys. No matter what country you call home, there's a crackin feelin grips the country when your on the big stage, its a different buzz but a good one. In Scotland we've lost that sense of excitement for obvious reasons, and so less and less people bother. Il tell you here and now, next time we do qualify, and we will eventualy, the nation will be going mental. Just need to get the right men in to lead the way.

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06 Feb 2018 20:36:42
Bhampot I've never been interested in national football, a can remember my pals fae school getting excited about France 98, a was 16 then, jesus, but I've never supported Scotland for the many reasons that many of us don't. Apart from that as ed says it's crap football. When was the last great tournament? Al be honest I've watched a few games cos they've been on while av been in the pub or whatever but a can't remember a great game or even a good world cup.

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05 Feb 2018 07:04:14
OH well me and my Boston cousin are not happy this morning as our Pats get beaten, but what a game.
Well done the Philadelphia Eagles, at least a team in Green and white won COYBIG lol
A bleary eyed Tim up all night is having breakfast then hitting the sack.

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05 Feb 2018 08:01:55
As i posted before Tim. GO EAGLES! Quite a ball game as they say.

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05 Feb 2018 16:58:29
Great game last night, I thought the Pats were going to clinch it again as they have in so many previous games.
Now all I need is my Bengals doing next season what The Eagles just did.
Being a Bengals fan just now is excruciating.

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05 Feb 2018 22:06:49
Thought it was the best Super Bowl I’ve watched, 2 great attacking teams, but Phillie deserved winners.

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05 Feb 2018 22:08:35
And also thought Justin was great too 👍😂😂😂.

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06 Feb 2018 19:00:54
I like Miami, they’ve been rubbish for about 20 years now Jonbhoy, since Marino retired, so I know how you feel!

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Review Of The Day 5th February 2018

05 Feb 2018 05:27:10
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th February 2018

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04 Feb 2018 23:31:35
After reading an earlier thread mentioning Rogic maybe moving on in the summer, what are people's thoughts on this? There was talk of a £10m move to Arsenal a couple of seasons ago but if he was to leave now it's almost impossible to put a price on him or predict what kind of level he'd go to because he's an experienced international with bags of skill who's still not hit his prime BUT he's never managed to stay fit for any decent amount of time. If he does go hopefully it's after an impressive World Cup with Australia.

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05 Feb 2018 02:03:46
We don't talk about it as a shadowy rule you lol. Can't stay fit but recent injury aside he had a good spell. There won't be many on here that will slate his talent. If he was an injury free player a bid would of came through by now. I think he is an excellent player and I don't think I'd have the strength to punt him unless we signed players markably better. He just has something. That bit of magic that too few of the squad have. I don't think clubs would bid much more than 5m for him right now which isn't enough. If fit and on a good run we would kick ourselves watching him do his thing in another league. I'm giving another chance to prove his fitness. If he breaks down again a few times before the summer then with a heavy heart ill agree it's best to move him on.

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05 Feb 2018 11:02:22
His time is up for me unfortunately. There must be people at the club wondering why we're paying a player who we can only get half a season out of. A fantastic talent, and based on footballing ability he could play at any level. But any club that has been following him will know of his fitness record and will know they are taking a punt on him.

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05 Feb 2018 11:11:56
Exactly Jim. He's a terrific player but if we were offered about £3-5 million for him I'd grudgingly take it (assuming he still has time on his contract) . Then again, who's going to take that punt on such an injury prone player?

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05 Feb 2018 11:14:24
i would build the team round Rogic, a fit Rogic is the best player we have by a country mile.

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05 Feb 2018 11:23:09
I think a lot depends on who we would replace him with. I know he's very injury prone but I think we miss him a lot when he isn't in the team.
The last few weeks have shown to me that we're badly lacking someone who can pick a pass, our build up play has become too slow and predictable.
If we did sell him, I would hope that a good replacement would be brought in, someone who is ready for the first team and not just a prospect for the future.

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{Ed007's Note - We've brought in Musonda to replace Rogic and we have McGregor in there too.}

05 Feb 2018 11:40:04
I wouldn’t sell Rogic, he’s an absolute phenomenal talent. let’s just hope he can get an injury free spell. He’s a very special player.

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{Ed007's Note - He's in his sixth season with us and has only played 117 games - Scott Sinclair has played 90 times since he joined. Nobody's questioning his talent but his fitness problems are a serious concern and that affects the manager's plans.}

05 Feb 2018 13:48:08
Rogic is another Phil O'Donnell. Bags of talent but spends 75% of his time in the stand. That's no use to anyone who is trying to build a team.

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05 Feb 2018 14:32:24
McGreggor couldn't lace Rogic boots in my view. If we get rid of Tom then we need to find a better replacement.

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05 Feb 2018 15:00:37
Ed. If we were to sell Rogic we would only have Musonda for a year after he left, and McGregor's form is a bit up and down.
If we have Musonda or Roberts (I know he plays in a different position) longer term then fair enough, but watching us lately we are lacking a bit of creativity. I'm not sure we can replace that with the players we currently have.

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{Ed007's Note - So that gives us 18 months to find the money for a Musonda deal or his replacement.}

05 Feb 2018 15:46:13
Kevbhoy, by my reckoning mate, we've spent 4-5m on Rogic in fees and wages and I think the club would be delighted to recoup that.

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05 Feb 2018 15:47:27
*whoops, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if we got 5m for as you say, such a gamble.

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05 Feb 2018 20:16:44
Never realised rogic has only played that many games ed, a know he was young and raw when he arrived but that's a shocking return given the amount of games we play.

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{Ed007's Note - And only 74 of them are league appearances, Steph.}

05 Feb 2018 22:54:12
Safe to say some of them are off the bench or he was subbed after about an hour Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - Definitely, Kev.}

09 Feb 2018 16:24:02
I am sure McGregor wouldn't want the responsibility of tying Rogic's laces, as he would have to tie them or untie them around the hour mark .
Rogic disappoints me the most of all our first team squad . He is probably the most gifted and skilled player we have, but at the end of the day is output is moderate . If we could get the work rate of Armstrong or Mc Gregor we would have some player, maybe when returns from injury this time.

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04 Feb 2018 23:28:24
Guys 2 words why we been inconsistent this season compared to last.
Leigh Griffiths.

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05 Feb 2018 08:38:18
What about moussa dembelle 2 words or Patrick Roberts 2 words or Stuart Armstrong 2 words or the best one predictable passing. There's numerous reasons why this season isn't as fluent as last year.

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05 Feb 2018 08:38:30
No one has improved except for Ntcham, Ajer and Forrest. The rest have stalled with some losing form in key areas. Griff too hadn’t been at his usual lethal level.

I thought we had turned the corner against Hearts. See what thought done?

Two cup games coming up. Both looking like formalities.
However, regain the form against hearts with same lineup or Musonda for Forrest and we have a small chance against Zenit. Anything anywhere near the performance on Saturday and it will be a long night.

If only it was just Griff, but it ain’t.

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05 Feb 2018 10:02:42
Magicpole why drop forrest. As you said he's one of very few improvements this year and in my opinion our best player this season?
I am a fan of Sinclair but ad drop him before Forrest at the moment.

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05 Feb 2018 13:48:32
Sinclair didn’t start against Hearts. Of those that did I would replace Forrest with Musonda. Forrest’s form has returned to Forrest’s form the last few games. A wee rest may be good to give him something to think about regarding keeping a place. Sincy shouldn’t start either.

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