Celtic Banter Archive April 05 2018

 

Use our rumours form to send us celtic transfer rumours.

05 Apr 2018 21:24:12
The question of Craig Gordon's goalkeeping has been debated on and off since we signed him .
Last night he celebrated 200 games in Celtic goals with 100 clean sheets . Now I don't care a hoot what anyone says but that is one hell of an achievement especially when we note some of the defenders he played behind . Ambrose was treated like dirt by many Celtic fans, a bombscare, after Ambrose he had Boyata also declared useless by fans and he too a bombscare . Added to that who the fans use to call sick-note, and is now finished Lusig .
How has Gordon done so good . i remember R Simpson lauded as a brilliant keeper, he had 91 shoot- outs out of 188 games . So Gordon 's record is better.

Believable5 Unbelievable5

05 Apr 2018 21:54:20
Great shot stopper for me OMC and one of the best keepers Celtic have had. Unduly condemned by many! ☘️.

Agree4 Disagree4

05 Apr 2018 22:33:53
I'll weigh in here. Gordon does what it says on the tin, Goalkeeper. Makes great saves and has kept us in a few games but his distribution is sometimes erratic, sometimes bizarre. He has a tendency to palm shots back into open play when he has the option to clear it. Celtic really need to be looking now for his long time successor.

Agree1 Disagree4

06 Apr 2018 00:43:32
I believe we got CG for free, ( £9 Million ) Keeper.

CG trained with sevco 2013 never got a contract. Guess who's kicking themselves now.

Whoever signed him should get a pat on the back and the fans should appreciate him more.

If CG was to leave there would be a queue. Hail Hail.

Agree1 Disagree1

06 Apr 2018 03:25:53
Sold big Forster for 10 million and replaced by a free! Gets beat far to often at his near post time after time. Cross balls and when he rushes out the box he gives you palpatations😱.

Agree0 Disagree2

06 Apr 2018 11:08:34
Goalkeepers will be beaten and a striker will miss, we give the striker other chances but not the keepers.

We forget the unbeaten run and winning games was not only down to us scoring, it was not letting goals as well.

Don't get me wrong am not innocent when a player gives me the Palpys. I like a wee roar like the rest you you. hail hail.

Agree1 Disagree2

06 Apr 2018 11:50:56
Gordon's main attributes great shot stopper . great instinctive reactive stopper (as good as I've seen with us) . biggest problem isn't the areas where he is poor as such but the fact that so far into his career he hasn't been able to address and correct / improve his faults .

Agree0 Disagree2

06 Apr 2018 12:04:59
Craig Gordon has done well to play that amount of games but I think it's a stretch to say he's the up with the best we've had.
Good shot stopper but that's it.
Out of the last 3 main keepers we've had he'd be my 3rd choice behind big Fraser and boruc.

Agree0 Disagree1

06 Apr 2018 13:22:27
Forster is best I've seen and between boruc and Gordon for second.

Agree0 Disagree3

06 Apr 2018 13:36:45
Gordon played well on his return, If I compare him with Bain he might be a better shot stopper but Bain is better at cross balls and distribution of the ball with his feet. Bain may well get a good run and show that he is just as good a shot stopper time will tell. Already said on numerous occassions i'd prefer to have Bain and someone else fighting for the No 1 shirt next season and that's not being disrespectful to Gordon who I rated very highly before he came to Celtic. We really need to have 2 keepers who have a good 5+ years ahead of them fighting for the No 1 shirt. Looking forward to Hazard being in the mix in the future.

Agree1 Disagree1

06 Apr 2018 18:47:38
Gordon is a bomb scare at times but he has also saved us a few times.

To have played 200 games and secure 100 clean sheets is a great record.

For me last few keepers the best was Forster, Boruc, then Gordon.

Agree0 Disagree0

07 Apr 2018 22:31:46
I fear for the health of many of our supporters . They are causing themselves unnecessary heart- attacks, their lack of confidence in Gordon our goalkeeper and our black centre halves Ambrose and Boyata are completely out of touch with reality .
Ambrose was a very good centre back but mouths from the stands did their best to destroy his confidence and eventually they did .
Thank God Ambrose has regained his confidence at Hibs and is one of the best cb's in Scotland outside Celtic . Boyata and Gordon have held their confidence together despite our supporters.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 19:18:45
Let me start by saying I am the biggest fan of BR. We could not have a better manager. every manager has a weakness no one is infallible ( except the pope)
I am starting to worry that BR weakness is his signing policy and maybe he should hand this over to someone else.
Compare his choices to those of Ronnie Delia

BR
De Vires
Bain
Gamboa
Hendrey
Compper
Hayes
Ntcham
Kouassi
Sinclair
Eduard
Benyu
Masonda

I am not including Dembelle as that had been arrange before BR signed

Now compare RD signings
Gordon
Boyata
Suminovic
Armstrong
Ajer
Roberts
Sviatchenko
Christie
McKay-Stevens
Allen
Cfiti

11 each but how many of BRs have become regulars and RD brought through Tierney, Macgregor and Griffiths to the first team
Only Sinclair could be said to be first choice selections from BRs list.

Believable0 Unbelievable5

05 Apr 2018 19:45:28
I don't know how Celtic go about their transfer business but Lee Congerton was brought in as head of recruitment. Surely he has a big influence on transfers.

Agree0 Disagree1

05 Apr 2018 19:55:46
Jonace I fear you’re just trying tae win the Hun Thumbs Doon League by saying the Pope’s infallible. I agree entirely as that promise was made by Jesus to protect His true church but I still question that you merely seek to win Ed’s prize which is poor sportsmanship. I got them to thumb doon me by just mentioning Broony being a great captain. I think you should have points deducted if you receive a rake of thumbs doon from the 6 finger banjo players! ☘️.

Agree0 Disagree1

05 Apr 2018 20:56:55
Our signings over the last 4 years have been for each good player 3/ 4 average ones are signed and that’s not good enough.

It’s hard to complain with the success we are having but we all want improvements.

I think BR weakness is that he rarely have a Plan B that’s effective. This season has highlighted it with the many poor performances and results.

Can only hope this summer is a good one for transfers, we get a settled team and no more loan signings.

Time will tell.

Agree0 Disagree1

05 Apr 2018 21:04:58
Sure it doesn't matter who signs a player, its how well the player fits into the team and plays under a manager. Some who were signed by R.D. didn't really star under him but played a lot better last yr and this yr under B.R. We don't know whether they would have played the same way under R.D. if he had been here longer.

Some of Brendan's players haven't been here that long and may play better in the future under him. A year or two doesn't decide whether a player has been a success or failure at any club. We remember lovingly those who have been with us four years or so. We also remember for the wrong reasons those who have been with us 3/4 yrs and were less than successful.

Agree0 Disagree2

05 Apr 2018 22:03:24
Jonace, KT was the star of all the youth teams when Ronnie, praise him, praise him, was only a twinkle in PL eye, you don't give Dembelle to Brendan, but you give Gordon, to the best Celtic manager ever, McGregor was banging in goals down south on loan, before he came back, Griffith's had started for Hibs, the season before, Ronnie blessed be his name, hardly gave him a game and he almost went out on loan in January, before Ronnie had to give him a regular start, of course my memory is not good and maybe I have it all wrong.

Agree0 Disagree2

06 Apr 2018 12:11:14
Few things you have got wrong jonace.
1 dembele had been heavily scouted and contacted about signing but the player admitted that the major th8ng that swayed his decision was Rogers coming in.
2 Gordon had agreed to sign before Ronny was appointed
3 we all know that several of the Scottish players were not the signings that Ronny wanted. Allen being the major one but rumours of a few more.

Agree0 Disagree1

06 Apr 2018 18:56:18
Jonace post has some truth in part of it, but many untruths and negatives . I would hate to be not liked by Jonace.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 12:46:55
ED007 have you heard anything about Musonda? Why bring him up here at big money not to play him.
At the game last night I heard different opinions, the most plausible one being Musonda, by his own admission (an interview a few weeks ago) is struggling with the boot boys in the Scottish game and lack of protection from referees. One guy last night said he had heard negative reports that Musonda lacked a wee bit of courage, hope that is not true.

Believable0 Unbelievable1

{Ed007's Note - It's just the same old stuff, Tim that when a player isn't playing all these daft rumours start. What interview did he say that?}

05 Apr 2018 14:36:27
ED007 it was in one of the papers, cannot remember which one, where he is reported to have said he came up here to "toughen up" and get "used to the physical nature of the Scottish game which he hoped would help him when he returned to Chelsea"

Agree1 Disagree1

{Ed007's Note - That's a bit different from him saying that he "is struggling with the boot boys in the Scottish game and lack of protection from referees".}

05 Apr 2018 14:50:08
Ed have u heard how Musonda is Settling in cause as I see it the only difference between him and the Compper boy is Musonda gets on the bench and for me that was a strange signing?

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed007's Note - Musonda's settling in fine.}

05 Apr 2018 15:02:35
Rodgers must be breaking him in gently then a wee run of 6 games would possibly help in break into team for new year on top of that wee swan song from PR before the end of season wouldn't go a miss cause I can't see him coming back for another Loan season next year what do think ED?

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed007's Note - Musonda has said himself that it'll be next season before we see the best of him. If you don't think Roberts will be here next season why should we give him game time at this stage of the season?}

05 Apr 2018 15:21:28
We are paying wages and he can have an influence on these types of games something different I personally think it strange to take off Rogic and put on Ntcham? I can see then Armstrong going to Rogic position and Ntcham coming on into Armstrong position but that was not changing it up much. Thought he might have went with Sinclair off and Forrest coming over to fill there then Roberts on to fill Forrest role different approach then. ?

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 16:18:03
Seen musonda doo the London road cafe, eating a full scottish for breaky then haggis neeps and tatties 4 times a week, followed by 3 square go's a week, he's already taken on a sheep sha**er and a tuchter, no ready for the glesga boy yet, cannot get his "stick the heid on him", right.
if he's good enough play him he will soon learn. once the league is in the bag he will get the last few games then a pre season.

BR like's to break them in gently ( Oh Matron ) .

Agree0 Disagree0

06 Apr 2018 19:02:03
I see we still quote the papers as if they would ever print the truth about Celtic .
I am surprised that a Celtic fan still reads the papers, I am more surprised that he quotes the papers, but then again I suppose a Celtic fan that boasts about drinking with Sevco fans on a weekly basis must have several question marks about his character and company.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 13:52:58
Surprise Surprise Bobby Madden is the Referee at our Semi against Sevco. What odds would you have got on that?
The establishment are doing their best to stop back to back Trebles. Just need to go out and beat the 12 x men!

Believable4 Unbelievable2

05 Apr 2018 13:23:04
Watching that game last night id in no way play hendry v rangers in the semi as he was shocking, don't know why jozo and ajer didn't play but rodgers will surely bring them both in for hampden as last night looked like an experiment that just didn't work.

Believable2 Unbelievable4

05 Apr 2018 18:22:55
He's cup tied pal.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 21:09:48
I am sure Tyson Mike, that B.R. will note your post and probably play his best 2 centre backs Ajer and Boyata in the Cup semi final. I can't see him pick Jozo as he put us under a lot of pressure the last time we played the new club and he has also played very little this year.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 12:29:16
Does anybody know where last night's dross leaves us in terms of wrapping up the league? Have we just handed the SPFL a get out of jail free card in terms of winning it against the zombies?

Believable1 Unbelievable1

05 Apr 2018 13:19:47
10 clear with 6 to go so if dons slip up v hearts and we beat hamilton and go 13 clear with 5 to go we can win it v rangers at Celtic park. It all depends on hearts beating aberdeen i think.

Agree0 Disagree1

05 Apr 2018 11:39:23
Y'know we can't be kidding ourselves here, that last night was pretty poor. Like almost every team we play, especially at home, dundee knew if you keep it tight and work hard you will do okay. Truth be told they actually looked pretty composed and had a good plan, whoever was calling their line done a great job, and never looked out of it.

We are predictable when faced with this type of defensive blocking, but in my opinion we have the players to beat it. Last night was screaming for Paddy, drag a few out and take them on was the way for me. Musonda as well has got good close control, that's what we needed, players going past men.

At times our football, the making space and ball retention was very good, but we really need to up the tempo and get players who will commit defenders. really disappointed as i felt we would really put on a show last night.

Believable4 Unbelievable0

05 Apr 2018 12:09:26
Well put fgj. the word we all seem to mention about our play is predictable! It’s all to easy for these teams to sit back and keep it tight, and wait for us to run out of ideas. which more often than not we seem to do! Last nite in a game were dundee sat deep and said come and break us down was tailor made for a paddy and is what musonda was supposed to be brought in for! Someone made a good point further down the page. if we don’t score early doors they simply just run out of ideas and most of the time the players and most certainly us fans know that we’re in for frustrating boring game!

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 12:12:15
When a team draws or loses a fan can't help but be negative, as a fan i will never walk away and say great game and a fantastic draw, we played well, unless it is EL/ Cl away.

The amount of talent and cost on display last night does not guarantee a win. BR and the team are looking to win every game, so am i.

Reality is We play in a pishy league against some dire teams who will not come out and play and not to mention the state of their pitches also the plastic ones.

If it's a great result for the other team to get a draw it has to be a bad result for us.

I am happy were we are, cup and league in the bag, semi to go, even with all the injuries/ loans/ rotations and not winning every game, we still manage to win a mickey mouse league/ cups.

WE can thrash them with possession every game but trying to play PL/ EL/ CL football in a SPL looks good when it works.

Sleave's need to be rolled up and the hard work needs to be put in, some of the shooting last was not the best of standards, am not sure their keeper made any great saves. Hail Hail.

Agree1 Disagree1

05 Apr 2018 13:57:45
Top post ypf.

Agree1 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 21:13:57
The league is in the bag and one thing seems to affect teams all over the place, when they are in a dominant position in a league with league success assured teams seem to take their foot off the throttle and limp to the winning post instead of galloping over the line.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 08:23:36
Quite a few negative posts after last nights point.

After a long season it is now time to see it over the line and give the players who do start encouragement. We all have our favourites, i prefer Bain to Gordon but it ain't going to stop me from praising Gordon who did well on his return.

7 is sealed let's see it out then we have the summer to reassess players in and out and push for 8 in a row. Players feed off encouragement let's get behind them all.

Believable1 Unbelievable4

05 Apr 2018 10:59:10
Stan. Hopefully over the close season we can get to grips with why we are so inconsistent especially at home.
Our flair players have been very up and down this year, even in individual matches they promise things at times but too often drift out of games whether that's due to having a lot of injuries or lack of confidence I'm not sure.
I've always believed though that the timing of the Champions league qualifiers is a big handicap for us. These are high pressure games so early in a season that it takes a lot out of the players emotionally even before a ball has been kicked in the league. Added to that, if we do qualify there is no time left to buy better quality players to help us avoid some of the hammerings we get in that competition, those hammerings affect confidence as well.
I don't suppose it will ever happen but I would like to see the qualifiers played at the end of the season rather than the start, that way we would have time to budget and bring in the quality of player best suited to whichever competition we are in.
Teams who play relegation and promotion play offs play these at the end of the season it allows them time to get their squad organised for whichever league they are going into, it would seem ridiculous for a team to be promoted then start in that league 2 weeks later but that is what we face after the CL qualifiers.
This doesn't just affect us, most of the major leagues in Europe have their seasons at the same time as us, so I'm surprised that some of the clubs from these leagues don't seem too bothered by it.

Agree0 Disagree0

05 Apr 2018 13:11:08
Good comment Gerry, to be honest being Champions we should not have to qualify. It's disgraceful that teams who finish 4th go straight in ahead of clubs like us.

Agree0 Disagree0

 
Change Consent