Celtic Banter Archive September 04 2015

 

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04 Sep 2015 21:06:33
Going to give all on here a chance to make some money from England game to cheer you all up.
An england win is 1/100 on (any takers lol) so let us look at other more profitable markets.
An England penalty is only 5/4 but against part timers I think it is almost a banker bet.
Rooney to break Charltons record by scoring 2 goals is evens, skinny odds but again he should do the business.
But bet I like is an own goal at 8/1, again part timers, a packed defence and 80% England possession lump on this bet.
You can all thank me tomorrow when these bets come up.

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04 Sep 2015 22:54:55
I thought the bookies didn't take own goal bets as these bets can be easily fixed?

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05 Sep 2015 10:51:13
@Celticforever don't know where you got your information from, but I can assure you I have already placed this own goal bet at 8/1 with sly, think this has a good chance with a tyring part time team and a packed defence.

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05 Sep 2015 14:04:52
Tim how much are you down so far this season?

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05 Sep 2015 16:46:59
England -4 is 1/2 San Marino ain't going to score and I can see England getting 5 at least

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05 Sep 2015 17:31:34
Well done mate fair play.

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05 Sep 2015 17:54:46
@Sacktheboard, I feel sorry for you always looking for the negatives, how can I convince you except by showing you my bank account? For future reference my betting plan is simple (yes a bit like myself lol) I have a certain amount in my betting account, which I top up with any winnings, and yes STB my losses come out of this also, but I genuinely am ahead of the bookies, and have been since Cheltenham last year and Mrs T and the girls have had wee treats out of my pot also.
This year my Barcelona penalty bets have topped my account up as has today's bets, STB just be happy that hopefully some punters on here have lumped on and won a few bob.
Celticforever, cheers mate hope you had a wee fiver on lol

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05 Sep 2015 19:27:22
Welldone Tim mate wish a was on a bit earlier gutted now haha not long up from my nightshift. Keep the tips coming and never mind the jealous types haha

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06 Sep 2015 14:00:42
How can someone be jealous of a person that in my opinion is a story teller. I'm sure we all know people that win more than their fair share of bets, but ultimately if they are truthful they are never ahead. Since you offered Tim send me your betting account details and I'll have a look.

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04 Sep 2015 20:11:07
Well what did you guys think about Stephen Fletchers performance? This is another player John Park rates. what's it going to take to get him to feck?!

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05 Sep 2015 07:08:51
I agree our scouting system needs an overhaul but to blame john park for the performance of a guy who has never been on Celtics books , well that's madness do you have a direct quote saying he rates fletcher personally or has he told you this face to face? If not I'm beginning to think he might be banging your missus on the side , it's the only reason I can think of for your irrational hatred of the guy . Why else would you be dragging him into a post about a Sunderland player who has never kicked a ball for Celtic?

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05 Sep 2015 08:54:37
Haha DN30 let it go! Fletcher doesn't even play for us and you're having a go. Its ridiculous and making you look very silly.
Your pal, Henrik's Tongue

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05 Sep 2015 12:52:36
John Park is to blame for the millions lost on duds plain and simple.

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05 Sep 2015 16:18:41
Fab1 I don't know how much you know about football and scouting system at Celtic. John Park identifies signing targets and recommends them to Peter Lawwell. He personally endorsed Stephen Fletcher. Do you not know we tried to sign him on loan there?

HenriksTongue what a pointless post. Your embarrassing yourself once again

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05 Sep 2015 16:19:12
John Park is to blame for all the millions lost by the players who has come to Celtic and under performed . Nothing to do with the players themselves , letting themselves down , by deciding to live it up on their new increased wages .
John Park also deserves credit for the millions upon millions made on players brought into the club . Or do we credit these players for their hard work in improving themselves .
I think no one person should get all the credit and all the blame .

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05 Sep 2015 16:52:49
There was a write up on newsnow about the money spent on Celtic strikers signed in the last 10 years, How they've performed and the sell on value. Needless to say there was only a few who have served the club well and made a tidy profit the rest have been shocking. I can't see JP getting punted just like PL as he gets it right in the other areas. I just hope they get a scout dedicated to unearting decent strikers and leave JP to deal with other areas. And Deila should get the final say for who he wants up front as the most important player in his 4-2-3-1 formation is the man putting the ball in the net.

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05 Sep 2015 17:12:37
Old Bhoy what a lovely story 😴😴😴

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05 Sep 2015 18:23:34
come on guys, this is our policy there is no way we wudnt have snapped the hand off for Fletcher when at hibs.
Here is the facts. We buy for 2m approx. usually and hope to find a wee diamond or 2 in the process that we can sell for future profits. The diamonds we sell far outweigh any losses we incur buying the lesser players.
We are far in profit with these players despite the Pukkis Baldes etc, that's the gamble there is no way we can buy at that level and be profitable with every player.
WE HAVE NOT WASTED MILLIONS as this is the policy and the few will compensate for the many.
Look at DI Maria for eg how much did that cost Man Utd.
Even the premiership clubs down south with their vast wealth cannot compete with us on profit with player.

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05 Sep 2015 20:43:23
Yes Rayman , buying players is a bit of a lottery . Every club buy players who don't fit in . We usually pay less than £3m for the players who disappoint but in the TV rich EPL some of the clubs have spent £30 m and still haven't got a player capable of doing the job for them .

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05 Sep 2015 22:16:47
Di Maria is no dud its LVG's way of playing is so boring! He's started off okay for PSG! Look at Falcao too playing in a boring Man U side he looked like one of our dud strikers and no doubt he will bang them in at Chelsea

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05 Sep 2015 23:18:04
Who said Di Maria was a dud??

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04 Sep 2015 19:28:33
Deary deary me, guys let's put this Brown thing into context.
Scott Brown is our captain our leader and we are rudderless without him.
If he was playing for another SPFL team we would be screaming from the rooftops to sign him.
I remember a certain Henrik Larsson getting stick from all and sundry (not cfc fans) that he can score goals here but he cudnt do it for a premiership team lol. Wonder where he ended up.
In fact as ed will know Paul McStay though a top quality player used to get the same accusation.
Guys I not saying Brown is as good but its just repetition of the same thing.I also remember Dalglish getting sick from Scotland fans saying he never does it at international level. It never stops.
I would bet anything you want Messi and Ronaldo get it too when things go wrong.

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04 Sep 2015 19:57:07
The same Scott Brown who was truly awful tonight against Georgia along with his accomplice Mulgrew?

Scotland fans are raging he gets games for them and is captain and I can't blame them. Awful football player.

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{Ed007's Note - Who cares what Scotland fans think? A raging Scotland fan must be terrifying right enough, most of them I know who go to games are borderline imbeciles.}

04 Sep 2015 20:04:28
Rayman its unbelievable the stick he is getting, its an absolute joke!

He wears his heart on his sleeve and if some other players demonstrated some of the dedication he puts in, we would be a far better position!

Look futher down posts, one deluded person claimed he only went to us because of money. if that was the case he would of been crying for a transfer down south.

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04 Sep 2015 20:29:23
Scott brown to me is injured. I think he was injured in the Maribor game and I think he's been injured ever since. Not himself recently. Maybe due a little criticism but to even suggest getting rid of him is deluded.

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04 Sep 2015 20:31:04
Feek me am away to look at that Blue Moon DN30 & Rayman are in agreement :-D

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04 Sep 2015 20:54:41
It looked to me that it was Morrison who was giving the ball away all the time.
Scotland will always struggle until they get a really creative player, and a half decent striker.
is that Scott Brown's fault they have neither?

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04 Sep 2015 21:37:50
Brown was average tonight, but average was better than most. Morrison who plays in the magnificent premiership was awful.

The slagging Brown is getting is laughable. If he was such a poor player would strachan have him as his captain?

Obviously the people slagging Brown know better than an international manager. I don't particularly like Brown's way of captaining a team, the glare and hardman act getting silly bookings. You can't deny Celtic are a much better team with him in it. There's no way anyone can deny that, whether they like him or not!

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04 Sep 2015 21:49:49
Scotland fans- tartan army- feck off
That mob are a total embarrassment, what are the criteria to be a said member? A kiddy on kilt ( that mob don't wear the real thing generally) worn with a pair of Adidas samba lol. Just experienced the "come on" repetitive to fade tonight plus the usual "fans" blaming it all on Celtic players.
Came home and remembered why I hadn't bothered going to a pub to watch a Scotland game in years.
At least the night ended in a positive, 4-0 to the good guys🍀

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04 Sep 2015 22:36:52
Couldn't have put better myself Stevo Dundee.I have no interest whatsoever in Scotland,stems back to the days of the Lisbon Lions,for me the greatest football team Britain has ever had,and that team were overlooked on several occasions to accommodate inferior players from certain other clubs.In those days it was a committee who selected the squads and whose members were certainly not Celtic minded,just as it is today.killy.m

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04 Sep 2015 23:21:03
For the record guys I couldn't give two flying effs about Scotland, never have and never will, only team for me is the hoops. Still watch the games though since there's no other football on and like to see how the Celtic bhoys get on for their countries, just like I'll be watching Wales v Israel on Sunday to see how Nir Bitton gets on.

Point is though both Mulgrew and Brown were atrocious again and both were culpable for the goal conceded, I honestly personally feel a lot of our support are deluded when it comes to Brown and simply ignore how poor he is with the football at his feet because of his character with the Broony and such like, it's as if he's became a legend ever since his o/ moment which is just unbelievable, I mean sure it was hilarious at the time but it stops at that for me and that doesn't make a legend unless it's with the young neds of the support most likely. It's all very good being aggressive in the tackle etc but if your useless with the ball at your feet and so negative(Which Brown is) especially when the level goes up in Europe with us then we need to get better in midfield.

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05 Sep 2015 06:32:08
Reminds me of a player / manager we once had .
Doesn't mater how good/bad he was, always the target of a section of the crowd.

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05 Sep 2015 09:53:58
Celtic forever this belief of yours about a mass delusion of the Celtic support is indicative of a paranoid state. Who is the evil mastermind behind this dastardly plot to remove the mental faculties of the fans and implant a belief that Scott Brown has been and remains an excellent player, leader and captain. It is always worth exploring the idea that if you are the only one who can see the truth when all others are oblivious to it the perhaps you are not actually the prophet but the deluded one. I think perhaps it is time for you to challenge your entrenched beliefs about Mr Brown.

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05 Sep 2015 14:52:44
I tend to avoid Scotland games (and International football in general), but last night we had a big family gathering and put the game on TV - only for all the old memories of why I abandoned Scotland games to come flooding back.
The Sevconian contingent of the family barracked and slagged off every single player with any link to Celtic.
Even to the point of demanding Kenny Miller be recalled!?
I ended up in the kitchen with the weemen folk watching Coronation Street and gazing at my sister in laws breasts.
What was the score anyway? ha ha ha.

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05 Sep 2015 16:24:39
Brown has played better than he has recently . However he hasn't become a bad player over night or in a month or so. Let us all hope he regains his form and becomes his old inspirational self . Celtic with Brown at his best are a different team than Celtic witout Brown .

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05 Sep 2015 16:57:17
Brown to me shouldn't have started he hasn't been right this season maybe fatigue maybe his injuries are catching up on him? But its not his fault we lost the whole team looked ragged and Fletcher up front ahead of Griffiths was probably to blame. How many games domestically has Fletcher played lately let alone when dif he last score? Griffiths is on fore he should've got the nod hopefully he leads the line against ze Germans!

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04 Sep 2015 17:41:40
1-0 georgia

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04 Sep 2015 17:30:53
Wheres all this hatred of brown suddenly surfacing from, he is one of the most natural leaders in football today and you can't put a price on a player like that he has more passion in his little toe than a lot of our players show and if we were to lose him to injury or sale our team would suffer horrendously

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04 Sep 2015 17:39:00
What you said.

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04 Sep 2015 20:34:54
Totally agree! Remember last year when we lost all the champions league qualifiers and were begging for brownie to be back in the team! Granted we still lost the games this year but now he gets the blame? Make your minds up!

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04 Sep 2015 21:51:13
It's been brown this week ,izzy and efe before him,wonder who it will be next week.killy.

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04 Sep 2015 23:25:23
It's sad that people only notice Brown's impact on the team when he is not playing.

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05 Sep 2015 14:57:25
Agree with Killy; we are all a bit disappointed and have a few doubts here and there and looking for a blame-hound.
It varies from game to game who's fault it is and the sooner we get back to league business and find some good consistent form and go on a winning run, the better.

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04 Sep 2015 16:47:01
Evening Ed, Do you think they have a bit of a clearout wages wise to free up Bosman / pre contract January moves for Fletcher & Anya it makes sense following the pattern we are doing just now in the market?

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{Ed007's Note - I will sit at the foot of the Brother Walfrid statue and sob my little heart out if CFC sign Ikechi Anya and Steven Fletcher's best days are well behind him.
Can you see a pattern in what we're doing in the market, I don't think you could follow Pedro with radar, some of his decisions are downright bizarre, even when it comes to dealing with other clubs and potential signings. He'll need to be careful his behaviour doesn't put people of dealing with us, Liverpool recently had a terrible reputation when it came to dealing with other teams and players, Brendan Rodgers was promising all sorts and then going back on the promises and putting his foot in it etc and it's only now they are starting to recover after introducing a transfer committee rather than trust Rodgers judgement and conduct. If players or clubs feel they are being messed about the word gets around and have a very negative impact on your transfer plans.
Instead of just using the press and his lackey bloggers to peddle the lies about targets has Pedro actually taken to using other clubs and players as part of the game?}

04 Sep 2015 17:50:35
A have never known mate an ex boxer with a "wee heart" he he mate ;-D

RD saying "We looking for Celtic / Scottish connection players minus paying the big fees" so that must be the mushroom diet PL is feeding him and one of the better journo's saying the Fletcher deal is to be revisited in January with Fletcher receptive to it tonight's interview he was talking up a pairing with LG for Scotland and it got be thinking he was talkin up or laying that marker mate

Do you not like Brendan Rodgers? A really like him , a rate him think he has a fantastic way about him just don't tell DN30 he is "Celtic Minded" pmsl

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{Ed007's Note - Brendan Rodgers is clueless, don't get Ed001 started on him and Ed002 just thinks he's an idiot who is doing more harm than good to Liverpool. When you look at some of the manager's in that EPL, there's Rodgers, Martinez, Advocaat, van Gaal, Tim Sherwood, Tony Pullis and Steve McClaren off the top of my head that are just terrible managers, no wonder so many of the games are boring to watch and just watch, some clown of a chairman will give Sam Allardyce another job and that dinosaur Redknapper is still kicking about making millions for being $hite at your job, the whole league down there's a joke.}

04 Sep 2015 19:38:56
I think pulis is decent?

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04 Sep 2015 20:07:48
Belter Jamiebhoy lol. I personally wouldn't like to see Brendan Rodgers anywhere near club for number of reasons

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04 Sep 2015 20:36:47
Cheers DN30 Mate (y) :-D

A thought BR was well regarded , highly thought bright coach Ed an a also thought he might end up @ CP given what he has said

But a would through a blanket over the rest especially Allardyce my Mrs says he has a face like a bulldog lol chewing that gum he ain't a pretty sight ;-D

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{Ed007's Note - I still can't believe Rodger's didn't get the sack at the end of the season, he won't be there this time next year.}

04 Sep 2015 21:07:16
It did puzzle me Ed that his asst got the boot & O'Drisscol? got planted in! Usually when that happens the Manager is next so you might well end up right there

But whatever numbnut sanctioned the Balotelli move deserves his jotters! Or did he have a scouse brother called Stealatelli? pmsl

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05 Sep 2015 17:01:10
He has to be close to favourite for the sack this season that's a lot of money spent in the past season and a bit and they're continuing to go backwards

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{Ed001's Note - sadly he is likely to get until the end of the season to continue destroying Liverpool *sighs*. Utterly inept, far too busy on the sunbed to even go and watch the youth teams play.}

05 Sep 2015 22:21:00
Haha are you the Liverpool ED? His skin tone does resemble wee Kenny's a tad! There's a team there if he can't get them playing then he needs to go it all looks ready made for Klopp to take over the Kop. Watch the rags steal my cliche!

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{Ed001's Note - there is already a hashtag for Klopp to the Kop or something along those lines. Sadly it is highly unlikely, the buffoons in charge never even tried to get him in the summer. Keeping the orange skinned David Brent a like in charge is going to cost Liverpool badly this season =o(

06 Sep 2015 14:51:15
The strange thing about the EPL ,even though they rely on managers from all over Europe either they are not attracting the right people , or else there is something else wrong with the EPL that makes the manager look inept.,
There is something that managers like Allderdyce an co are employed time and time again .
I was very concerned Lawwell and the board would land us with a failed EPL manager after Lennon left .

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04 Sep 2015 16:03:56
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04 Sep 2015 14:31:27
Let's see how the new Center halfs get on. For me we need a big dirty brute that would tackle his granny and lump the ball into row Z if required. If Carling done Center halfs I would have big Paul Elliot in the with Johan Myalby any day!

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04 Sep 2015 13:10:11
This is my first post since the transfer window shut, One word DISAPOINTED! I have been sitting back reading all the comments from everyone over the last few days and I can not believe people slagging our captain Brown! you people have very short memory's think back to the start of last season Brown was out injured our team had no spine we limped out of the Champions league TWICE we were sitting about 4th in the League till Brown came back into the team! Brown brings a lot to the team he may not have the skills of Messi or the passing ability of Beckham but he has a will to win! he never backs out of a challenge and one tackle from Brown can lift the whole team every team needs a brown type player his teammates know he will go through a brick wall for them!The problem we have had the last couple of years is we have no playmaker the Nakamura type of player that does nothing for 80 minutes then with one moment of genius can win you a game,we have to many very mediocre players in our squad, Forret,Stokes,Malgrew,Ambrose,izzy,Commons,Makay-Stevens,Allan, Ciftci and Griffiths to name a few would struggle to get a game for some English championship sides. So if our top Players Brown, Bitton,Gordon,Johanson,Van Dijk when he was here are having a bad game we have no cover for them no plan B. I Personally feel we need to have a big shake up of our scouting team. we can't afford big wages that's fine! I would love to see what our wage bill was compared to Malmo's there are plenty of quality players out there that would easily fit into our wage structure.I like that we are investing in good young Scottish talent like Christie let's buy all the good young Scottish talent and mix it with some experienced foreign talent! we bought Vennegoor of Hesselink when he was about 27 from PSV for about 3million a proven Striker that fitted into the wage bill I would rather pay that money for someone like him than someone like Amido Balde who is yes young but unproven at a higher level let's buy young Scottish talent with the view to selling them on and buy experienced proven foreign talent!

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04 Sep 2015 14:06:42
Gazcfc21 spot on mate! Its unbelievable that some people are slating Brown. He is integral to the team and we have lost some important games without him

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04 Sep 2015 14:44:46
Why shouldn't brown get stick he's been garbage this season so far and to say we've lost some big games without him is stupid as we've lost big games with him also!

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04 Sep 2015 16:10:41
I'm not saying he's the best midfielder I've ever seen and those 'slating' him do raise some decent points. But if we're looking forward and trying to improve the squad, surely Brown is way down the list of players we'd want out the door and replacing? He's by far the best leader in the squad and I think those that don't see his worth are ruch to say that I and others don't know anything about football. Anybody that plays knows how much of an important player he is. Ed I thought you would have chipped in with your penny worth on this topic. Future CFC manager and all that ;)

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{Ed007's Note - I had my say earlier on mate, it's all just a knee jerk reaction that is being blown out of proportion, someone even posted in going on about when Brown nearly signed for Rangers, maybe Scott Brown isn't Celtic-minded enough for some sections of our support.
Look at the overall reaction to Brown having one bad game in God knows how long yet we've still got players like Forrest, Boeriggter, Mulgrew and some would say Ambrose. Everyone that was screaming out for Mulgrew to play at LB instead of Izaguirre suddenly aren't as vocal about it as they once were.
Scott Brown will lift many more trophies as CFC captain and I'll be there applauding him when he takes to the field for his testimonial/charity benefit match.}

04 Sep 2015 17:05:12
Sorry mate didn't see that. But you take the words out my mouth. Brown, like ALL the squad so far this season have been off the boil or insoncistent. Brown has been on average our best player for several seasons now. Without him we have been spineless. He's THE single player with any fight in our squad. Anyway this topic needs put to bed, he'll stay at CFC and rightfully so. BPL teams have tried to sign Brown by the way for those that think being watched by Spurs makes you a better player.

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04 Sep 2015 17:54:31
Can I just add, Brown isn't being played in his best role. For me, he is a CM, not a CDM. Same goes for Biton. SB has shown, against CL opposition that he can both do the defensive and dirty work, as well as drive play forward. He's took the ball forward past a few men on numerous passages against CL opposition. However now, if he goes forward, it leaves Biton who has said himself he is not a CDM. Browns job now is to win the ball and also keep things ticking. That 'continuation of play' role. It might not mean always passing the ball forward. We all aspire to the perfect team and game but anybody that thinks it's possible to pass forward 100% of the time is just daft. I've posed the question a few times; does a new manager (and RD is still a new manager let's not forget) pick players to suit a system or a system to suit players. Until our head coach has more of a say he's stuck straddling the two. And for now certainly Scott Brown is the best man to have in the midfield two. The fact Scott Brown is being targeted after a few poor games, for me, just indicates how much he has been relied on in the past. People either see that or are made somehow subconsciously aware that Scott Brown has been consistently our best player for half a decade.

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04 Sep 2015 20:16:49
People who think Scott brown is invaluable to us are wrong he's been good for years but this season he's been poor and needs someone to give him a boot up the backside. There's so many things wrong at our club so let's not add the captain is exempt from criticism when he's been poor for most of the season.

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05 Sep 2015 08:52:27
Jim1972, wrong? WRONG? How am I wrong?

He is invaluable. I'd like to hear who you think our core of best players are abd why Brown isn't in it. You even said yourself he's been good for years. Only good is an understatement.

He's not exempt from criticism no. The european qualifiers and the two and a bit league games he's been hit and miss. But atill better than most. And certainly shouldn't be out the coach's plans as has been suggested. Not until a teams worth of players before him are anyway.

Not even going to waste any energy on this topic now. Scott Brown will continue to play as CFC captain. And rightfully so.

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