Celtic Banter Archive October 04 2011

04 Oct 2011 22:42:02
If i get any of these wrong im sure sum1 will let me know.
Hooper - 2.4 mil
Juarez - 2.6 mil
Kayal - 1.2 mil
Izaguirre - 600k
Commons - 400k
Murphy - 1.5 mil
Wanyama - 900k
Bangura - 2.2 mil
Marc Antoine Fortune - 3.8 mil
Morten Rasmussen - 1.8 mil
Jos Hoiveld - 1.4 mil
Robbie Keane (4 mil in wages over 4 months)
Thats in the last two years, prob misses a few out. We cant blame the board. This is poor management and poor players.

Drew

Not to mention Freddie Ljunberg who played one match or something for Celtic and cost them 1-2million.

Never knew Rasmussen was 1.8 million ? Even worse he's out on loan !

Hooper-make money from
Juarez- out on loan ? Why ? If he cost 2.6
Kayal- make money from
Izzy- defi make money from
Commons-only got him coz rangers wouldn't t pay the wages ?
Wanyana- looks good so far
Bangura- will come good after a few
Fortune- couldn't match the 3.8 mill price tag
Rasmussen- why on earth loan him out when samaras is s**te
Hoiveld- another defender not gettin a game or is he loaned our as well
Keane- Celtic fans payed his wages with the keane on the tic tops
Ljuberg- what was wrong with him ?

See if you look at the whole team on paper (current) it's a good team ? Only place we really lack us goalie & maybe a good cb?

See the more I read into the ins & outs & tactics it does question Lennon as a manager ? Don't need to run them off as we all know them, but a feel if this was anyone else, ie mon,gs,tm we would all want answers & Lennon should be know different ? Fan fav or not ?

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

04 Oct 2011 20:58:06
Gents, have the strong feeling if the Stack incident had been Mcgregor on Hooper we would be going mental right now claiming SFA bias.

Its nothing to do with us.

But it wasn't so no point speculating ! SFA need to be consistent..

Hah probably. It was violent conduct...more of the handbags variety than Naismith's which was straight up thuggery but nonetheless violent conduct.

Whether Lafferty said something or took his time getting off Stack or even deliberately fell awkwardly on him on landing and/or put pressure on his legs stopping him getting up (which I wouldn't put past the scumbag) had anything to do with it we'll never know.

Not really sure how this SFA fastrack thing works. Perhaps there has to be a complaint or at the very least a mention of it from a club at a meeting or radio/TV interview (from either side) as well as cold, hard video evidence to get any sort of SFA action. Not sure if there was, but until he was cleared I never heard any Rangers fans speaking much about it.

Seems strange though. One rule for Naismith, one rule for Stack. And on the subject, how many dives have SPL players from probably all clubs taken this year and not been punished for, yet O'Connor is the only one that gets a ban thus far? Billy Brown admitted as much, perhaps evidence there has to be spoken precendent, or maybe he avoided a 2nd yellow/cost a team a yellow.

04 Oct 2011 20:23:45
Time for everyone to get a grip and get behind lennon and the team all this talk is doing is dirupting them the people on here are just as bad as the tabloids get behind the team or get tae f**k

04 Oct 2011 20:06:54
No name again i see ya muppet. Im a Celtic fan through and through. Now this will be a bit of an alien concept for you but im what is known as a realistic Celtic fan. U do find the odd 1. We tend to face reality, admit our teams shortcomings when they're shockingly apparent. Maybe im not being clear. I dont think we wont win the league coz we're 10 points down with a game in hand. Its because i genuinley feel that every time we have to play away from home in the spl after a european game we will drop points. Come the old firm game on Dec 27th i think we'll be 12-15 points behind. Rangers will hit a bad patch, of course they will. But With only league business to contend with for the next 3 months for them it wont come til Jan and by then it will be 2 late. Nothing wud plz me more than to be proved wrong but i had a season ticket for 15 years and this is a very poor Celtic team.

Drew

Its 28th Dec & when we played away to Sion we beat St Mirren 2-0 Mr Doom & Gloom....realist Celtic fans generally know the facts - unknown poster x

04 Oct 2011 19:26:48
Bhoys first as poster earlier said it is bears with no names on here talking mostly about tax case oh and tony, yes we love a dig but that is it.
Bear trying to parody my name says gers will make £3m from liverpool game, er pal have a look on your own site bears saying £20 too steep for a friendly, cant see you breaking the bank, sorry mr whyte (oops forgot dont mention the tax case)
Some good points made earlier, we all wanted Lennon to get new contract in summer, so 9 games in and it is all changed? Again a lot of bears mischief making, I guarantee if that mob lose a couple of games watch the fallout so please keep the faith, and support Celtic no matter what. Our club is what is important. hail hail Mick the Bhoy

Remember Mick, rangers won the old firm game then less than a few days later there folk sayin he's know upti the job, sack him etc ! What goes around comes around for that lot !

Lennon on the other hand everyone loved him aye, but you must have asked the question yourself Mick a few times about Sami,stokesy n hooper not paired up etc ? The daily record somed it up 7 games with hooper/stokes they win, spilt them n they lose ? The back 4 hasn't been the same back 4 fronthe start if the session ? All we ask for is answers to these questions & what he sees in everyone that we don't ?

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny,

04 Oct 2011 18:43:34
everyone says lenny will leave but when he was getting abuse he would of left but he didnt so he wont leave now just becuse of three bad results thoughts ed ? {Ed001's Note - different matter entirely, when he was being abused he had everyone behind him, now some of the Celtic fans are turning on him and wanting him out.}

Let us be honest guys it is purely because of the Celtic/Irish connection we are being SO tolerant, put it this way, if he goes based on his record/decisions do you think there would be a rush of clubs wanting him as manager.

YES..I actually do

Few junior teams maybe.

04 Oct 2011 18:11:52
To the unknown poster, never said the tax case was garbage, its very real and by all accounts very serious for Rangers. Your right tho, i know nothing about the case just like every1 else on here. Difference being i dont keep banging on about it to deflect away from my own teams failings. Onto you once again Miko, if all u have left is to correct me on my spelling then i think we'll just call that check and mate for Drew, just use the international break 2 cool off a bit son.

Drew

Drew which team are you supposed to be supporting tonight?

If you look at the posts on here about the tax case..most of it comes from the rangers fans. Stating we're relying in, security blankert, not going to happen etc, etc. Have a good look about who it is that's really going on about it.

We have mentioned it, of course we have -its an opportunity to wind-up but no where near as much as some would have you believe - Unknown poster :)

Thank you my friend, whoever you are......Miko

God the reason we go on about the security blanket is because all your sad attempts to wind us up. all u lot being tax experts and that. christ half of you havent even done a self assesment for your tax in ya life simply because your mostly signing on letting us hard working people support your life.

04 Oct 2011 17:40:52
lennon only has himself to blame a said months ago that if he kept playin samaras, loovens and mistakavic he would get the sack and it looks like a was right, he has a great partnership in stokes and hooper and he always changes it, mark wilson is a better cb than mistakavic am sure he could have played alongside mulgrew sunday, that leftback we got is the worst left back a have ever saw in ma life he cant tackle cross or evin mark a man he spends more time at left wing than left back,bangura aint ready to play, as for lennon saing stokes aint ready for big games, wen stokes played for hibs am sure he scored against every spl club and he scored against them at castlegrayskull, paddy mccourt aint getting a run in the team he has lost the dressing room and the respect of the players imo, if a was a player and samaras was gettin a game before me a wouldnt respect my managers football brain

stephenmiller1916

04 Oct 2011 16:32:39
keep the faith lads just bad run players missing new players need to settle in not long till playing good again the shame will have bad spell aswell we need to stick together

I agree we are building a team even if we dont win the league this year its not a big deal we will win it next year.

I seem to remember us missing quite a few players a couple of weeks ago. weve had our bad spell europe.

I don't remember Naismith, Davis or McGregor being out for your Europe matches (I assume your talking about rangers).. you can cope with anyone else being out

04 Oct 2011 14:43:47
ref
Tony you are the one wae the security blanket wrapped round you son ! Mr Whyte is s**ting himself about the pending tax case , so you are either in denial or the eternal optimist , no one can be sure of the outcome , but it is certainly a serious financial situation hanging over your club , which should be worrying every Rangers fan .

you are right un-named poster about one thing no one can be sure of the outcome so why all of a sudden every celtic fan and his dog seems to know the tax laws inside out ive seen postings on here saying Rangers will lose get points deducted get relegated be striped of titles any old rubbish to ease the pain of your teams and your managers failings on the park. what will happen in November will happen all this talk about it now is just conjecture whats not conjecture is Lennon and his Team dont cut it on the playing field

Tony

Conjecture = An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information

Tony

Ur right tony am a bit embarrsed with the
celtic fans that come on here and spout s**te abt rangers tax case leave it alone guys

if were goin beat THEM i want to smash them on the pitch not cross my fingers for this tax case to go against them

viewparkbhoy

Tony if the conjecture becomes reality , administration and a 10 point reduction will be the least of your worries m8t , Celtic are in the midst of a spell of poor form , but will get through it , Neil Lennon has a big job on his hands turning it round , but it is too early in the season to discount us , we have played 9 games , of which 5 have been away from home , Easter Road , Pittodrie , Ibrox , St Mirren and Tynecastle , Rangers have been to Inverness , Dunfermline , Tannadice , Kilmarnock and Motherwell , not quite so daunting , the home loss to St Johnstone was the biggest dissapointment , if there is no sign of improvement by January then Neil will be in trouble , but Rangers will have a spell of injuries and indifferent form (as Celtic are having) and will drop points , we have Izaguirre , Brown , Kayal , Ledley and Kelvin Wilson out injured at the moment , Celtic are not firing on all cylinders , but Rangers are not great either merely grinding out results most weeks , long way to go .

If the conjecture becomes reality if administration happens if the 10 points are deducted i have no doubt celtic will start to play better but will it be to late as i stated before what little money we had to spend we spent wisely Goian, Bocanegra, the jury is still out on bedoya and i think buying ortiz was a mistake but i really dont rate any of the celtic signings Mathews is no better than whats already there wilson wanyama are worse than whats already there and bangura well the jury is out on him but what i have seen up until now i wouldnt swap any of our strikers for him i think the board will have to back NL in the transfer window especially in the defence and with that keeper but im hoping by then it will be two late

Tony

Tony i agree with your assessment of Kelvin Wilson , but Victor Wanyama and Adam Matthews are both 19 years old and are players of promise who have done ok , given time i think both will mature into good players , Mohamed Bangura has only arrived , he seems a decent player , but is still finding his feet , if in January we sign a goalkeeper and solid centre half , allied to having Izaguirre , Kayal and Brown back we will be in better shape for the run in , we inproved after new year last season , Rangers are more likely to sell than buy in January if Craig Whyte is too be believed , so Tony it is not too late .

Agree with above but we need damage limitation until we have full team & hopefully with a will to play.

(Don't listen to this guy tony - not a football guy at all. Spouts utter nonsense & spends all day on here which is just plain strange)

Tony how many games you seen these new celtic players in? to judge i would say to you watch them all over a period of games then i maybe take your opinion more seriously

davybhoy

04 Oct 2011 12:46:22
Got to hand it to Drew, at least his vision isn't tinted unlike Miko, who just drones on about the same old inane rubbish.
Lets start talking about the football seen on both pitches and event then Miko must admit The Rangers are far superior.

04 Oct 2011 10:52:08
Neil Lennon knows he is under pressure but is not hiding from his responsibilities. Its takes B**** to approach Peter Lawell at this time to ask for the possibility of Mcfadden as Commons is no longer in his plans. Once Again Fact! Double D

Is this confirmed mate? Apart from the obvious i.e weight gain/poor attitude, why does Lenny suddenly not rate his main man from last season, surely there has to more in it than that.

BigGiv43

McFadden is going to Everton Fact

Brilliant double d just coz u say its fact does not mean its fact its bull commons was ur best player on sun be4 sending aff so wid be the biggest mistake ever getting rid the only FACT i know is u talk bs

T-Bear

04 Oct 2011 09:58:00
Bring back Gordon Strachan!

Aye, then hound him out after winning the league coz he's not a "sellik man..."

All of youse Celtic fans drove the wee man to quit cause he wasn't Celtic minded. Well saying that when Sir Walter took the Rangers job he knew he had met his match with Sir Walter.

Who is Sir Walter ? Jock Stein wasnt knighted so why would Walter Smith be ?

04 Oct 2011 09:18:03
Dear Glasgow Smelltic board. Please do NOT sack Mr Lemming! I have tanned a fair bit of the xmas savings on drink this weekend (mon the Jambos) and am relying on Paddy Power paying out on Rangers to win the league, early. If you could please see to it that Mr Lemming and his wonderful back room team of experts could stay on until say, late November, I would be most gratefull.

Yours
Bouncy Bear

04 Oct 2011 09:11:06
Again more stats:

In the daily rangers today p59.

Strikers: stokesy & hooper have started 7 times this season (together) & Celtic have each time & scored 18 goals between them

Celtic had the best spl defensive record lady season but this season he hasnt played the same back 4 in consecutive matches

Said last night I like Lennon but when it's as black In White like that you must seriously ask the question about his managering skills ? Even the people who swear by him must struggle to swallow that ?

A think he's 2 loses away from the sack/resign (spl games)

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

Why buy the daily rebel if you call it the daily Rangers. STRANGE

Daily rebel ? U being serious ? Keith Jackson & Hugh keevins are major blue noses more so Hugh keevins, only ever listen to the nugget if real phone in goes for a break & never heard him say a gd work about Celtic !

Hugh was brought up as a Celtic fan Fact.

Hugh was celtic fan 100% FACT my dad was at school with him

Is this the same Shug Keevins who ran the Glasgow University Celtic Supporters Club... aye right ya mug

Lol i was under the impression that we all knew Keevins was a tic man !?

Were have the tic been living ?! haha 99% percent of the time fans argue about which famous people/players support their team not the fans arguin that he doesnt support their team lol .......

Hugh Keevins is a proper plum! I dont think Jackson supports either of us ... he has manipulated stuff for both teams plenty of times afore. I Love how the OF always assume a player or whoever always support one of the OF how big headed are we !

Germinator

I hope people are at the wind up here ? Honestly ? A can't remember the last time he said summin about celtic & when rangers do well then it's a 15 page spread ? Just my thoughts right enough

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

Keith Jackson is a former Rangers youth player

04 Oct 2011 06:27:12
Ok guys after calming down a bit a big big part of me thinks its time for lenny to go. I love the guy and want nothing more than him to do well but maybe the job came to soon. However players must take a look at themselvs. In Lennys defence we have had a lot of our guys at the back out injured so it has been impossible to get a settled defence. However i think our main problem is in midfield. Neil just cant seem to make up his minde on this one. Ledley Kayal Ki and brown are all similar types of players. None of this rubbish Browns best on the right and ledley on the left. When you play out there you need to go past players and make good crosses or runs in to the box which players such as mcgeady agath and allan thompson done. This league is far from over and even though Lenny is not doing well we should get behinde him cause he might just turn things around. This guy loves the club as much as us and i belive he would walk away if he feels hes not taking us in the right direction. The guy put his life on the line for the club. All the plonkers on here giving the guy pelters are not real fans. Come on Lenny turn it round prove us all wrong!!!!

Midfields the problem ? Lennon had said over & over again it's his strongest part of the team !

Anyone coming to Celtic to manage the club is a big risk years of experience or not, get it right & you have one hell of a cv for another club get it wrong & you will be struggling for another team more so after everything that's happened to the poor guy. He's done us well last year but this year he's missing something, I posted earlier today the spread from the record about everytime Stokes & hooper play they win etc there's to many questions that need answered from the back 4,samaras,stokes not getting into the big games the list goes on. I'm a Lennon fan but now it's just a waiting game 2 loses & he's off u can't chop & chance a team willy nilly & not play your to best strikers together in the games that matter

If it was any other manager in the Celtic seat we would be calling for answers/his head so Lennon should be know different !

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

Its pretty simple when all fit our centre
midfield pairing should be kayal and ledley and our front pair should stokes and hooper....

viewparkbhoy

04 Oct 2011 02:29:39
And another thing Miko, what if Rangers actually win this tax case? What the hell are you gonna do then? I'll get u a decent samaritans line to help u cope just incase. What else will u have in the locker if that all comes to nothing? This is really the question i shud have lead with.

Drew

Well you lot will be still be left with a £10m black hole to look forward to.