Celtic Banter Archive March 04 2016

 

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04 Mar 2016 21:51:49
I am sure regular readers have noticed I have posted very little over the last fortnight or so. Firstly I gave away my oldest daughter in England to one of them . Then this week my second oldest supplied me with my second grand child . So I have been quite busy away from football .
R D's stock seems to be on the slide . I think for now we should park R D's future and concentrate on winning the SPL . All is not lost after 28 games last season we were 6 pts ahead and we won by 17 points . This time we are 4 pts ahead, but the players need all the support they can get from the stands and forums . Not winning the SPL would be disastrous.

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{Ed007's Note - Congratulations to you and your family, Chris.}

04 Mar 2016 22:39:59
Old bhoy congratulations on both of the above. Am out with the bhoys tonight n a was saying to them that it's time to give this team our full support, a want a new manager but this negativity isn't helping anyone. Fact is Ronnie is here for the foreseeable future so let's see if we can encourage them over the line. HH.

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05 Mar 2016 07:07:07
Congratulations Old Bhoy! Don't really know what to say on the team front, can't remember the last decent performance. Team look bereft of spirit. Said it all before. about the manager and haven't changed my opinion but not getting much evidence to back that up with from the pitch.

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05 Mar 2016 08:27:21
Oldbhoy know how you are feeling as both my girls are dating below their social status (ie dating sevconians lol)
Hope mum and baby are healthy that is the important thing.

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05 Mar 2016 10:52:25
Old Bhoy it works both ways though. The players have given us almost nothing to get behind lately. Our support has been taken for granted for too long.

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05 Mar 2016 16:50:35
And I am not saying that the first division team is better than us kev Bhoy. They are miles from us
But they did prove how bad Dundee are.

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05 Mar 2016 19:31:47
Kevbhoy, normally u r right, but we have to win the SPL and so we have to back manager and players for now . We can sort things out when the league is won.

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05 Mar 2016 20:52:49
Fair enough OB. I'll be there as usual doing my bit.

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05 Mar 2016 22:12:17
Timalloy, u really have a problem, it can't be easy watching the pride and joy of your life tossing everything that is right and good going out with them low life boys . There is damn all u can do about it .
Mine marrying an English man and the other a Liverpool supporter leaves me no room to gloat, they get out of control.

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04 Mar 2016 19:26:48
The difference between Ronny Deila and Neil lennon.
Lennon lost to Morton and tho it was an embarrassing result made no difference to his job status.
Ronny Deila loses to Morton on sunday and there is absolutely no doubt he would lose his job.

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04 Mar 2016 22:51:23
can feel your excitement just at the thought of it.

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05 Mar 2016 10:54:47
It's different circumstances rayman.

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05 Mar 2016 11:20:10
Its pretty poor when Celtic fans are hoping we get beat just because they don't like the manager! :> (

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05 Mar 2016 12:57:46
DesH you are talking out of your backside! That type of comment has no foundation other than to deflect the poor management and poor results that we are being dished up by Ronnie and the players. No one wants us to get beat.

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{Ed007's Note - Have a look on social media then you can come back and apologise to Desh. There's plenty of fondation on there for what he said. }

05 Mar 2016 13:19:17
Johnnymac fans like you were out to get him before he took charge of first game. He never stood a chance.

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05 Mar 2016 13:58:30
Ed what have I got to apologise for. Because some plonker puts a stupid remark on social media. He is still talking out of his backside no apology given.

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{Ed007's Note - You could apologise for being totally wrong. Everything you said in your post is completely wrong.

'DesH you are talking out of your backside!' - No he's not.

'That type of comment has no foundation other than to deflect the poor management and poor results that we are being dished up by Ronnie and the players.' - There's plenty of evidence out there where people want us to lose so that it puts more pressure on the manager. Nobody will admit it but I don't doubt there'll be a few on here that feel the same.

'No one wants us to get beat.' - Again there's plenty of evidence showing the opposite.

I could go as far as saying that it's actually you who is talking out of your backside.}

05 Mar 2016 14:02:08
Dn30 when did you become a authority as to when I started or stopped supporting Ronnie? I don't manage the team he does. The results are poor do is the style of play. Rangers are 3-0 up on the same Dunded team we played We'd night so if that's not putting down a marker of things to come then what is?

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05 Mar 2016 15:13:42
Ed say what you want. I am talking about Celtic fans. They want us to win every game. I am not talking about the mindless. I stand by what I say so both of you are talking out of the same place! I do not want Celtic to lose and neither does any other fan. I also want this dross to stop. If that means replacement for the current manager then so be it. I really don't care what you or the l love Ronnie brigade think any more.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm talking about CFC fans too. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend there isn't then that's up to you but the reality is totally different and the proof is there for EVERYONE to see.
I've never cared what anyone else thought, especially the I love NL brigade and ones who don't have a clue what they're talking about and think CFC only started when MON came in.}

05 Mar 2016 15:40:07
Ed this is the reality of the situation. Ronnie is going at end of the season. Why? His style of play, tactics motivation etc etc not good enough. Now people like yourself and maybe other Ronnie lovers on here may actually want the new manager to fail just do you and your " I love Ronnie team "can say well I told you so. This new guy is no better than Ronnie. Now you are going to tell me that's this is a rubbish statement? well we will see. What is not in doubt is that he is not Upto the job and will be relieved of his duties. I gave up on him at end of his third attempt to get into CL. Not really bothered what the Ronnie support team view is. He will be gone!

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{Ed007's Note - I'm a CFC supporter, Johnny. You should try it sometime rather than just being a RD hater. I'm worried for the next manager as people like you have set the bar so high that he is doomed to fail, every single thing he does will be meticulously examined and any short comings will put pressure on him. If he doesn't qualify for the CL will you want him sacked, ikf winning two trophies and the chance to add another two this season isn't being up to the job how the hell is the next manager going to improve on that?
You don't need to keep telling us that you don't care what people who support the CFC manager say, we know that you do or you wouldn't keep saying it and replying to posts that back the manager. It makes you look silly saying it when the opposite is obviously true.}

05 Mar 2016 16:12:46
Ed wrong again. You call me an RD hater. Wrong again. I may have a strong opinion that RD is not Upto the job but I don't hate any Celtic manager so stop the Ronnie hater remarks about me. It makes you look small minded. I have never stated I hate Ronnie. I have said I don't think he is Upto the job! Why because results not what I think or would I would like to happen. Posters asking others how we will feel when he wins the treble? It didn't happen. Is the double going to hapoen? Who knows? Will we win the league? Who knows. So dealing only with the here and now, he is not cutting it. A new manager will need to change how we play and get more out the players. That is what Ronnie needs to do now. So you are telling me that you fear for the new manager because of the pressure we put on him! Start fearing for the state of the club right now under Ronnie. Ed I want him to win every match he ever plays from now to eternity. But I base my opinion on reality not on Ronnie eventually getting it right or putting the blame on DD. That's all easy stuff. Look at the today and you can shout about him not getting backing etc all you want. He has been backed so don't give me the guff that this squad have been forced on him. Yet another myth.

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{Ed007's Note - I've never said I love RONNY either, all I'm doing is supporting the CFC manager, something I done even when I felt NL's time was up, so stop those remarks about me and try and please try and learn how to spell the CFC manager's name.
If you look back I said months ago that the time to re-evaluate was at the end of the season, until then I will continue to support CFC, the manager and players, in the hope that we win another two trophies. You should try it sometime.
Now then, it's R-O-N-N-Y.....

05 Mar 2016 16:35:27
Ed I don't care about spelling his name. Is that going to make any difference? No but it's about the only thing you can now come up with. Pathetic!

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{Ed007's Note - OK, Dave.}

05 Mar 2016 16:57:56
Ed I think grammatically it should be something I did, not something I done. Fully understand I spelt Ronny as Ronnie but as an editor please try and be grammatically correct. Just looks better especially if you are the editor!

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{Ed007's Note - And here's you that says he doesn't care what I say or think. Twenty minutes and that's the best you can come up with, Jonhyncam?
You missed an 'I' before fully and I'd guess an 'It' before just in your final sentence by the way, Jonniemac.}

05 Mar 2016 19:39:27
It is funny how some poster on here have ridiculed R D since he was appointed, maybe they thought a Norwegian wasn't capable of managing a top Scottish team .
No matter how many negative posts they have contributed they claim to not hate
R D, how hypocritical of them.

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04 Mar 2016 18:56:42
So to change the subject off Deila one footie bet I will be on is in the cup Dundee are 4/ 1 to win and 14/ 5 to draw, the Dens park team are playing in a higher league so these bets are too big to turn down.
Also going to try and get a bet on penalty in game and an ordering off, although some bookies seem so far not to be offering these bets.

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05 Mar 2016 09:50:42
Timalloy if you do both teams to score and Dundee to win you will get 7/ 1 buddy.

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05 Mar 2016 10:11:13
Marco I have did a wee BTTS and win coupon also, only took 4 teams and permed them so not as brave you here are my 4 teams
Everton, Hearts, Crawley and Burnley stand to win £309.73 a lot less than your big winnings but I will be happy if it come up lol.

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04 Mar 2016 16:31:35
Its an expensive thing being a celtic fan including season tickets kits n merchandise not to mention the away tickets when i can get em i reckon i have spent way over a grand along with thousands of others that's a lot of cash so where the hell has it went? Also craig gordon i would sack him today after that interview on sky sports wtf did he find so funny about clear the air talks? Mr gordon yir a has been get yir coat n f*** off thank you.

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04 Mar 2016 22:12:15
I agree with you but they are obviously all low in confidence and maybe what was said has livened the place up getting everything off there chests so to speak.

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04 Mar 2016 22:41:04
No excuses the man should show show more fight n passion rather than snigger like a schoolboy! Maybe vlad was right n he is a troublemaker lol.

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05 Mar 2016 09:00:18
Was he not laughing after getting kippered in Istanbul? Might not be the game but there's definitely an incident he made a clanger then started sniggering.

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04 Mar 2016 15:25:16
Talking to some guys at the game on wednesday and they are of the opinion, Pedro's "big game" is to shift more season tickets now Sevco are back in the picture, his whole strategy is based on those morons, but what happens if they go t! ts up again?

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04 Mar 2016 15:37:04
Not sure what you mean timbo. If you mean he's been simply waiting for the return before trying to get the best product on the park then it's all wrong. A rise in ST is expected to be honest with them back, but as things stand I know of one sale that won't be renewed.

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04 Mar 2016 17:02:25
JimTim I do not even think Lawwell is contemplating splashing any significant cash in the summer. I think he is solely relying on all us gullible fans renewing our ST and even more fans buying a new one because THEY are back among us.

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04 Mar 2016 17:13:40
Think there some sort of mass delusion happening here, blaming everything on the board, where the only thing you could say they've did wrong is appointing Ronnie, think most were happy when Ronnie got appointed, know I was, a young, modern thinking, ambitiuos manager, full of all the right ideas about the right way modern footballers should look after themselves, but did;nt take him long to make me change my opinion, now I think he concentrates too much on the fitness to the detriment of actually being able to do the simple things, concentrates too much on a system to the detriment of teamwork and teamspirit, but Ronnie can talk a good game and I can't blame the board for giving him the job, if only he had a more old fashioned guy beside as assistant, but, no he's got JC, a kindred spirit if ever there was one, another soulmate worshipping at the temple of 24hr superathlets.

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04 Mar 2016 19:15:33
for me i think the board brought daila in as acheap option that might uncover a few gems i think the fitness side is spot on but he has came across a squad of players who don't like giving up the booze and fish suppers and just don't want to play for him also with john park identifying what players he gets its a recipe for disaster although i think feila may now be getting more of a say with the recent signings

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04 Mar 2016 21:55:28
Timalloy those boys u were speaking to know nothing more than yourself, so trust your own judgement.

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04 Mar 2016 14:11:23
3 players i think that would we should look at in the summer and are attainable in my oppinion:
Marek hanousek, 24 yo playing for dukla prague, anyone else remember him tearing us up with a hat trick in a pre season friendly against us earlier this year.
Mohamed elyounoussi, 21 yo playing for molde, worked brilliantly on the left side against us and is a position we definitely need filled
Reynaldo, 26 yo playing for qarabag, striker who has a decent scoring rate for them in europe, the brazilian looked realtively good against us playing in a poor team and would be cheap which would suit our board, definately a lot better than cifti, cole and by the looks of it richards (haven't seen enough to judge fully yet)
Anyone else agree or think of any other potential targets?

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04 Mar 2016 14:39:41
100% with Elyounoussi but we've been informed that he was earmarked but not pursued. Hopefully interest is revived. It's an area we're desperate for a player who can score goals and grab a game by beating a man. Under our policy and cap I don't think there are many better available.

GK - Padt/ Kapino

CB - No specifics but we should be after an experienced player who a top side view as surplus to requirements. A real no nonsense, tough tackling leader.

I'd like to see us back in for Baston, Ziyech, and Zahavi if we do, or ever did have a chance.

Similar to CB, I want a proven ST, on the cheap. Pizarro is a free in the summer. Might get shot down but he'd still do a job.

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04 Mar 2016 15:45:41
Is that the same borja baston i see scoring regularly in la liga for eibar? because he looks a prolific striker however he's on loan from athletico and likely out of our price range.

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04 Mar 2016 15:53:51
It is dude. We were linked with him in jan. He's continued, even improved, his form since then too. But was probably too good to be true initially.

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04 Mar 2016 21:59:05
Players often look good whilst playing in their home league or a league where they made their reputation . A move to Scotland, climate, pitch condition, defensive opponents etc often knock the football out of the best of them .

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05 Mar 2016 08:02:53
But some of those players playing in Scotland Chris come to Celtic and can't deal with the demands either. It doesn't take a statistician to figure out our better players have came from leagues other than Scotland. If we want to start getting a better side, we need to start shopping more and more away from our own back yard, buying too many SPFL or even Scottish Championship players makes us 'just a Scottish side' really, and yet people act surprised when we're not battering teams every week.

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04 Mar 2016 11:46:20
If the directors had any good intentions Lawlesswell would be kicked into the Clyde and K Brady installed. The dressing room would be sorted in a short space of time for starters.

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04 Mar 2016 11:58:53
Karen Brady is a cracking shout mate. I think she'll be on very good money though!

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04 Mar 2016 13:29:14
I'm a big fan of Karen Brady. Phwoar!

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04 Mar 2016 14:00:03
Is she not Ed002? That's what i've always imagined anyway.

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04 Mar 2016 15:17:28
plus shes goat a nice smile n wean bearin hips?
whit?

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04 Mar 2016 22:02:27
Why in the name of God would Karen Brady leave the £100's m T V and massive sponsorship to move to Scotland and the poverty of football and city .
People thinking like that are completely unrealistic and create crazy thoughts.

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04 Mar 2016 22:14:28
Congratulations old bhoy on birth of gs .

Why can't we attract someone like KB, she's ambitious and enjoys a challenge.

Is Lawwell not one of the highest paid ceos in the game so salary when it comes to bread winners isn't a problem for DD, DOB . What is crazy is the fact these guys are being backed by some fans .

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04 Mar 2016 08:33:56
Parasites. Organisms that lives on or in its host and benefits by deriving nutrients at the others expense.
How much do the preferred shares play in dividends.

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04 Mar 2016 10:43:26
the last time i looked at the figures the amount was around the 1 million mark.

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04 Mar 2016 11:40:03
We've 2 billionaires taking their cut, never contributing . Blood sucking leeches sucking the club dry . We have our own version of Whyte, Green and Minty but craftier. The coffee will be smelt when it's too late . An empty shell with little value to anyone .

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04 Mar 2016 19:44:39
TTTS I don't like the board any more than the next fan but I can't follow this billionaires sucking the club dry. Where do you get that from. Tell me how much they are taking out of the club. If you don't know look at the accounts. Next point if you think any businessman is going to throw millions of pounds at Celtic with no chance of getting his money back then you are out of touch. We need to improve how we are run but you offer no solution just a statement about billionaire bleeding the club dry. Tell us all what you think should be done.

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04 Mar 2016 21:45:31
There had been no attempt by the present board to hold on to the brighter young stars that have been shifted on for a healthy profit. If the board had any intention of building a team capable of challenging in group stages of CL a few twigs on pay structure would surely have swung it in the clubs favour. A more astute choice of manager would also have suggested that they had ambitions to build on an institution that has a fan base that would suggest Celtic could be a big club.
The pair did indeed buy controlling stakes in the club but it's the fans hard earned money that bought the players that were later sold on for a profit of which dividends on preferred shares were paid.
The guys are collecting on their shares of which Lawwell is there to ensure it happens.
We are the host, we are been fed on by parasites.

You need to ask the what sort of grip one of these guys has on the Irish media and government it will go a long way to explain the form.

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04 Mar 2016 22:11:00
TTTS I think u are talking nonsense . After rescuing the club F McCann looked for another wealthy person to bring the club on . He couldn't get a suitable Scottish person and was more than impressed with D D who was prepared to put twice the money Fergus wanted . Both MO'N and N L have publicly thanked D D for his generousity towards team .
TT TS instead of fault finding, why don't u put a consortium together and buy DD and Do'B out, if they trust your motives.

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04 Mar 2016 22:43:56
I'm just flicking through some society mags to see if Denis O Brien just had a daughter married and has welcomed the birth of his second grandson.
The idea of a fans consortium owning the club isn't ridiculous at all but it would take someone a lot smarter than me to organise.

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05 Mar 2016 07:03:51
Is Denis O ' Brien actually Old Bhoy? ;)

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05 Mar 2016 12:54:03
TTTS you still have not qualified what you mean by billionaires bleeding the club dry. That is nonesense. he is taking a dividend but that's how preference shares in this instance work. As far as selling our better players, we are attracting them to Celtic on the promise of if they perform and a suitable offer comes on then we won't stand in their way. How many would even agree to join us unless they saw Celtic as a way of promoting themselves? The players want away when the opportunity of EPL football comes calling. So trying to put the blame on the Celtic board for the above is nonesense. The club does need to retool at the model but the problem is not because DD took £500k in dividends.

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05 Mar 2016 15:35:30
It's nasty that billionaires can take dividends yet can't sort out a living wage for its staff.
Leeching out money that likely wouldn't pay for their annual wine bills.
They more or less own the club giving their % of shares, what have they done to improve the club?
I'd compere them to the absentee landlords that are happy to take the rent whilst the paint is peeling of the walls. That is the product that is on offer atm and there's worse to come .

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04 Mar 2016 08:05:52
I am in charge of a team of 13 in my work, I never interviewed or gave any of them there jobs if my team consistently missed there targets , were found wanting on our busiest days and were bickering with each other all the time and refused to carry out my instructions, I would be sacked and rightly so, but before that happened I would go to him and tell him what needed done to get things right, if he not only refused to do the things I asked but told me he was taking my three best workers and replacing them with three average ones from the other teams in the company, I would tell him to stick the job up his arse . It really is that simple.

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04 Mar 2016 10:45:12
well you are the exception as opposed to the rule.

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04 Mar 2016 20:47:28
by him do you mean your boss i assume you are but you can't really compare your job as team lead at mcdonald's/ burger king with manager of a professional sport's team tho can you let's be fair then again maybe you can put a word in for mcgregor and forrest when their football career goes tits up.

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04 Mar 2016 22:13:27
Precious which SPL team are u managing .
I think Lawwell will be happy now that he precious as new manager who will work with a small squad as well.

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04 Mar 2016 01:27:53
Hi Ed, Have you any hearsay on this clear the air talks? Do you know what was discussed or who it mainly involved? Just hope this has a positive affect as we are only playing in to the hands of Aberdeen and Hearts who will get a boost knowing what's going on. I really hope we play with 2 up front against Morton and ditch Brown and Mulgrew for Biton as they're clearly off the pace.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd imagine (and hope) it went along the lines of shape up or ship out and if you don't want to be here we can sort that out. There's no excuses, no matter who your manager is, for not giving 100% during a match, you're letting down more important people than yourself as a player or the manager, you're letting down the fans and the Club, and that's unacceptable to me. It's down to the players to get us over the line this year and far too many are shirking their duties.}

04 Mar 2016 11:44:25
here you yur stertin monday get yur coat.
signed petur lawyell, bit ye huv tae make wee timbo yur assistant (a bit like debbie magee)
plus am yur cashier
god bless me.

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04 Mar 2016 14:02:38
I hope RD got tore into them, Too many underperforming. Mainly in the midfield that area where we have too many players yet none are pulling their weight. I know it is only Morton but hopefully we see a difference but would still like a lot of them getting the boot at the end of the season. Who wouldn't you mind seeing the back of Ed?

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{Ed007's Note - GK: Gordon. Def: Lustig, Ambrose, Mulgrew and Blackett. MF: Commons Boerrigter, GMS, Allan and Forrest. Att: Stokes, Cole, Ciftci, Scepovic and Kazim-Richards.}

04 Mar 2016 00:49:49
"It's just small things that we have to do better" - R. D quoted in a newspaper. If this an accurate, I am totally bemused

1. selection
2. tactics
3. substitutions
4. committment
5.motivation

Think I will stop there.

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04 Mar 2016 22:19:08
Well it was in a newspaper, So it must be wrong.

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04 Mar 2016 00:44:01
I had a thought today . Does anyone think the board are intentionally holding us back as to make it more competitive and generate more interest, because as we have seen with the elite league p1sh Celtic are not considered one of the big boys anymore in terms of revenue fan base etc therefore a competitive league may be the best way to make us look good rather than be good which comes down to the old problem money makers/ takers making football decisions. I however believe being a good football team and being competitive is the best way to increase our clubs image and respect.

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04 Mar 2016 09:17:07
According to the majority of places you look on the internet we have spent over 10 million pounds of players since the summer. Aberdeen have spent nothing.

If that is a strategy from our board to make it a more competitive league then they should all be sacked on the spot.

The truth is we have overspent on poor quality players. We have a squad filled with average players. RD doesn't have a clue what his best team is. I could go on but it is too depressing.

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04 Mar 2016 10:55:46
I really don't see how we can call ourselves a big club these days because we are not. We don't compete in Europe. We don't fill the stadium. We can't compete in the transfer market. As for this myth we have millions of fans what a nonsense that is it certainly doesn't show on shirt sales does it.

The potential to be a big club is there but sorry that days are long gone until new people with a bit of ambition run the club. The truth hurts i'm afraid.

Wont be long before the top tier is closed every game at this rate. The time for change is upon us and it is no longer the minority shouting for it.

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