Celtic Banter Archive February 04 2018

 

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04 Feb 2018 20:33:36
Ed, is there any future for Gordon, Rogic and Armstrong at Paradise.
Gordon, fitness and age isn't on his side.
Rogic, I adore the guy but again fitness isn't great and he's down the pecking order since the new arrivals.
Armstrong, again I like the guy, but dosent seem committed, looking elsewhere to advance his career.
What do you think?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see Gordon have much of a future and Armstrong will more than likely be off in the summer. As for Rogic a lot of people are willing him to be a top player for us but I don't think it's going to happen and I expect him to move on in the summer too.}

04 Feb 2018 21:31:29
I appreciate that Ed, in fairness I expected that. II’ll miss Rogic, liked his attitude and style.

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{Ed007's Note - Me too mate, I was one of the people willing him on.}

04 Feb 2018 23:11:41
I think most of us are willing Rogic on to do well, just a shame he can’t stay fit because he’s certainly missed when he’s not playing. If he does go in the summer it’d be good to see him do well wherever he went.

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04 Feb 2018 20:49:51
OK guys/ ghals Superbowl tonight, as most know I am a Patriots fan, GO PATS
I wanted to have some "punts" (pun intended lol) on the game, but I am no expert, so just like when the NBA playoffs were on last year I have turned to my cousin in Boston.
I asked him for a couple of relatively "safe" bets ( remember but that NO bet is guaranteed) so here is his recommendations which I have already bet on.
Fairly safe Novelty bet
Length of US National Anthem
over 2.00 minutes 8/ 13 (apparently most recent renditions have gone over 2 minutes)
Anytime touchdown Gronkowski 21/ 20 Patriots
Jay Ajayi 2/ 1 Eagles
Total Points UNDER 48.5, 10/ 11 (high scoring superbowls are not the norm, and this one is expected to be tight and close)
MVP usually the quarterback wins this so if Patriots Brady 4/ 5
Eagles, Nick Foles 5/ 2
Outside bet MVP (the sympathy vote for overcoming injury) Gronkowski 9/ 1
If you choose any of these bets good luck and I hope my cousin wins us all some dollars/ pounds/ bucks/ dinero lol.

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04 Feb 2018 23:27:36
Hoping the eagles win Tim, think the pats will win though by around 10points, although if Foles plays the way he did against the vikings in the NFC championship, anything’s possible for Philly, all the cheating around the Pats deflating the balls etc put me off them, enjoy the game if you stay up for it👍.

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04 Feb 2018 23:17:29
Tim to be honest mate I not into NFL I prefer to watch sport lol, incidentally are u cheering the pats cos you are indeed wee pat?

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05 Feb 2018 04:49:33
Tim left out the Brazilian real, Please make our Brazilian speaking friends feel wanted.

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05 Feb 2018 13:51:07
Being a fan of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia I was hoping the Eagles would win.

And Trumpet supports the Patriots and Tom Brady likes the Trumpet so that sealed it.

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04 Feb 2018 20:34:43
Stevie Well said mate. We cannot expect to win every game and the injury list has been a big factor this season. Realistically we are never going to get that far in the champions league. Until we get a good central defence in place, playing regularly we will struggle at CL level and have the odd blip here and there. Running a big club properly, paying wages, overheads and associated taxes to HM taxes etc sucks up a lot of the money we think should be spent on new players. most clubs have a long term budget to keep their clubs long term futures secure. I would rather be dominant domestically than overspend. Just look south of the river. Who would you rather be?

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04 Feb 2018 19:10:49
All this talk of we are regressing, our standards have slipped etc is really pissing off my happiness. We were always going to hit a bit of a slump like this after the highs of last season, I could see the argument here if we had failed to qualify for the CL had lost out on the first trophy of the season and were trailing in the league, but the reality is the bare facts show that so far we are bettering ourselves from last season by still being in Europe and this has been done with a horrendous injury list, someone posted a full team a few days ago of our injured players which would comfortably win the league when fit. The moans about getting humiliated in Europe? well personally I've kind of given up on the CL I gave up when our opposition could spend 3 or 4 times more on one player than our entire squad cost. I will content myself with dominating in the country we play in. I am old enough to remember the pain of watching the old club* (win) ? title after title and I know the pain they are feeling seeing us do the same (fairly) and that gives me great pleasure 😁😁.

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04 Feb 2018 23:25:32
A blind man could see how bad we were at rugby park. Only eight points ahead 2/ 3 through the season? GEEZ A BREK! Team looks disjointed, big players nowhere near their best! I know injuries have
had an impact but it's a really tough watch just now. I say it as I see it.

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05 Feb 2018 00:16:43
Awww what a shame we are ONLY 8 points clear, we might only win the league by 15 pts this season, get real you obviously weren't around when we used to be regularly 10 points adrift at this time of the season. You sound like a spoilt wean greeting cos things aren't going your way. Just enjoy the domination.

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05 Feb 2018 07:10:14
What do you then Carmyle? Sack Rodgers, and sell everyone in the summer. Or just cancel their contracts. Whose going to sign players who have lost 2 domestic games in 18 months. If its so tough to watch then give your ticket to someone who would appreciate it.

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05 Feb 2018 13:59:26
So the response to asking questions leads to the let’s scrap everything. The what’s the point we’re all going to die attitude.

It’s not an either or. To get better requires reflection and learning from mistakes.

Do you feel we have learned from our defensive problems and sorted them?

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04 Feb 2018 16:54:26
Afternoon Ed,

So here is one for a lazy Sunday

A said to a good friend of mine last night everyone fit does BR Know his best eleven and the layout he wants?

I thought I would have a go

3 4 2 1

CG

Hendry Commper, KT
Roberts kouassi brown Sinclair
Ntcham Musonda
Dembele

Am sure everyone will have their own thoughts / shape and have a go but there is still a massive amount of talent getting left out when ALL is well.

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{Ed007's Note - If he's going with that formation I'd agree except I'd go for Bain in goal, Jamie, Gordon's finished for me now, and I'd go for Simunovic or Boyata over Hendry just now too. Compper is an unknown quantity but I reckon Rodgers would have put him straight in when he's fit regardless of yesterday's injuries. I think that formation is more a reflection of what's available though and Rodgers will go back to 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 when everyone's fit and available.

--------------------Bain---------
Lustig---Simunovic---Compper---Tierney--
-------------Brown-----Ntcham---
Roberts--------Musonda-----Sinclair---
-----------------Dembele--------

04 Feb 2018 19:19:39
That would be my team too ed although av got doubts with bain long term, surely we can get a better keeper in the summer. He'll get my support while he's in the hoops as will anyone else and a hope he proves me wrong but the doubt is there.

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{Ed007's Note - He's the best 'keeper at the Club just now for me, Steph and I wouldn't be surprised to see him being offered a contract in the summer as he'll be available o a free and would probably be happy and settled to be Celtic's No.2.
I still think a No.1 should be our priority this summer but knowing Lawwell and remembering what happened with Gordon's signing I reckon Peter will be trying to talk Rodgers into Bain becoming the No.1. Danny Ward wants to leave Liverpool and I'd be delighted to see us make a move for him or Sondre Rossbach that I may have mentioned in the past :)

04 Feb 2018 19:25:31
Ed do you think we’re likely to take Bain permanently at the end of his loan or go out and buy a keeper? For me he’s not a bad keeper at all but I’d like ya to set our sights higher.

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{Ed007's Note - Steph just beat you there, Kev lol.}

04 Feb 2018 19:36:56
By the way av been sent a picture of the pitch at killie and it looks like they've made it narrower and shorter, got no idea if that was done at the start of the season or if they're altering it game by game, is it not the case that u need to name your dimensions at the start and stick to it. If it's allowed fair play to them a was just unsure.

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{Ed007's Note - Ed033 deals with pictures, Steph but I did see it yesterday. The SPFL Regs (H20*) state that clubs can apply to change pitch dimensions at any time, and more than once a season but they must secure written consent from the SPFL board.

*H20 - Clubs must register their pitch dimensions with the Secretary not less than one month prior to the start of each Season. No Club shall alter its pitch dimensions for any League Match or Play-Off Match during a Season unless with the prior written consent of the Board. The Board may at any time require a Club to submit a report from a qualified independent source certifying the pitch dimensions.

04 Feb 2018 21:43:55
Of course they can always put in their written changes well in advance, by knowing who they are playing, and alter their dimensions to suit their strengths, or rather to minimise the strengths of their opponents.

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04 Feb 2018 23:13:30
I remember Big Jock doing a bit of changing the pitch size in the old European Cup. (cant remember opposition) The away team had the set time to practice on the pitch and Jock had the size reduced slightly for their session. For the actual game the next night he had it put wider again (remember, we had Jinky and the Lions who loved wing/ attacking play)

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04 Feb 2018 23:20:55
Bain might be good but I bet he won't win POTY lol.

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04 Feb 2018 16:59:31
managed to drag myself out from under the cuvers what an embarrassment it is being a celtic fan. sent my st back burnt all my tops i mean 2 losses in 2 seasons wtf is going on just not good enough. won't be back till we've won10 trebles in a row and back to back champions leagues.

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04 Feb 2018 17:21:21
If that is the case you will be getting a valentines day card off your LIVER 😂😂👍🍀.

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04 Feb 2018 18:57:30
ha ha Welsbhoy, yes I felt the same reading all the doom and gloom merchants, 2 losses in 18 months is clearly unacceptable.
I say splash the cash on a proven goal scorer, what about a £15m bid on Morelos lol.

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04 Feb 2018 23:49:33
£15M sterling, that roughly equates to about €18M Euro or $40 Dembele!

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04 Feb 2018 13:41:18
Quite a few moaning about yesterdays surface. Ajer played on it 16 times last season without problem. Infact we played some of our best football on it this season back in August. No point blaming it for a loss because it's never mentioned after a win.

We simply had too many passengers yesterday.

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04 Feb 2018 15:05:32
Stan, We did have too many passengers yesterday but a surface like that NEEDS watered and it was kept intentionally arid in my opinion just like the pitch in Gibraltar

When NOT watered it becomes dangerous to play and injury threatening OFFICIALS should have a role in ensuring it is suitable IMO.

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04 Feb 2018 15:40:30
Killie are putting their own players in danger if that's the case Jamie, would Stevie Clark allow that? It didn't seem to affect how Killie played, I'm not even sure the surface would have been mentioned had we won, like in August.

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04 Feb 2018 16:24:32
It needs watered Stan and if you have home advantage and play on it untreated you can have a wee advantage IMO plus its then set up for a difficult game productive wise

So Jozo and others are kept of a surface like that for what other reason? Look at the landings of Boyata and Ajer surface at fault IMO.

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04 Feb 2018 16:47:07
I am 16 years older than Jozo and play on an Astro that is G2 twice a week. That i believe is 2 levels below what Killie have installed. Jozo is weak mentally and physically if he can't play on surfaces like that. Every Celtic fan on this site would play on burning coals to wear that shirt. Not saying you are wrong about the watering etc Jamie i just ain't using the surface as a reason for our loss. The bigger issue was as many as 4 or 5 being passengers. BR is quick to change a winning team, i hope he is as quick to change a losing team.

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04 Feb 2018 17:12:02
I said it yesterday in a post and Rodgers confirmed it in an interview afterwards, far too many passes across the backline, across the middle and from the halfwayline back to the keeper. Now either the tactics need looked at or the players yesterday weren't following the instructions. We're trying to play our normal game on a pitch that isn't fit for that level it's that simple. Take nothing away from kille, that win was fully deserved and shouldve been by more but we've got to combat certain conditions and surface's and we just didn't do it yesterday. We tried to play our passive, expansive fee flowing football on a pitch that's not suitable, that along with big players not turning up on the day, that's what cost us. I just wish yesterday when we knew it wasn't working try the long ball and bully the defenders rather than trying to pass through them.

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04 Feb 2018 18:07:47
Pitch is the same for both teams whether it's watered or not.

I don't see how home advantage makes it any less dangerous, ludicrous comment.

Better team won the game. Wasn't pretty but that's besides the point.

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04 Feb 2018 18:58:46
The reason for the over passing across the back line and midfield was due to the work rate the Killie players put in shutting down space and players. Are we too one paced and predictable is Rodgers having a second season meltdown or is it just coaches and players saw how we set up and how players performed and got a little wiser to it? It does happen but still well clear at the top biggest club in the country a cup in the bag and still in Europe? Real Madrid struggling the mighty citeh draw with Burnley last I saw Barcelona were getting best. Results like this happen that’s what makes football the best sport in the world and why we all like be it! Mon the hoops 🙂⚽️🍀.

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04 Feb 2018 23:23:06
Yesterday's game needed players than get stuck in about them alas only 1 turned up. Still cantering the league despite 7or8 player's injured who would normally be in the starting 11.We lost a game get over it. Hopefully we go up a few gears for the next 3 home games v Partick Zenit and St Johnstone. The next 2 away games after St Johnstone are Zenit and Aberdeen. A big month ahead so let's enjoy it. Keep the faith.

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05 Feb 2018 09:11:15
The problem of packing the defence requires someone to beat a player or two to open up space. Didn’t happen much and even when it did the final baw passing was atrocious.

No player looked up and took them on. Always the safe pass. Give the responsibility to someone else. They were happy to sit off and crowd us out. With nobody able to beat a man and end with a good pass led to one poxy strike on target over 90 minutes.

I’m hoping it was just the pitch.

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04 Feb 2018 13:13:06
Forget Kilmarnock at the plastic park. Facts and League tables don't lie. We've only scored 8 goals more than the Govanites and they've played a game less. Hardly reflects the level of superiority we! re claiming or should be expecting given the relative financial position of the two clubs.

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04 Feb 2018 14:48:04
Everyone needs to chill.
In 2 weeks time we will get a better picture of the players bottle and mentality. We could be 11pts clear, qf of sc and last 16 of europa. You'd be happy the first two as i don't think we stand a chance vs zenit.
Big few weeks coming up. Next three games are at home so let's cheer the bhoys on.

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04 Feb 2018 16:56:15
The issue is we should have a chance against Zenit. Posters here saying that we have only lost 2 games in the last 18months. The true fact is we have lost 2 out of the last 5 or 6 games. That's the true picture. We have not won 4 in a row all season.

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04 Feb 2018 11:04:20
Some posters are saying we would never have hit the heights of last season. what a load of garbage.
We would have hit those height if quality signings were made to add to the team. in our position we were the only club who could of added true quality to our squad, however we have seriously missed out on 2 windows to do that.
Player project after project.
When BR came in I thought as a club we were going to start getting a bit serious.
I am starting to think BR wants a safe dressroom to control with no senior players that can't be "coached" or developed"

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04 Feb 2018 11:30:54
We hit that heights and more against Aberdeen and as recently as Hearts midweek. Unfortunately there is no consistency and BR chose to change a winning team. Never the same 11 and that in my opinion has a lot to do with it. Getting Roberts, Rogic, Armstrong, Griffiths, Johnston etc fully fit will hopefully make a huge difference to performances and results.

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04 Feb 2018 12:48:24
I personally think the players were just trying to get through the game without injuries. We lost 2 players in first half. This encouraged Killie and affected us. You could see it in the running and passing nobody was pushing themselves. Don't believe this performance has anything to do with our previous form, but agree about consistency. I don't think we have fielded the same team in many games at all this season due to injuries and tinkering. However we could have lost this game to a similar score to Hearts defeat. CM needs games and for him to be judged already by some posters is ridiculous imo.

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04 Feb 2018 13:06:07
Agreed Stan. We cannot afford to"hit the heights " every third or fourth game! We need a run of consistency and that only comes with a settled team in my opinion. Also, I don't think our support are panicking at the moment, more concerned I guess. As I said on an earlier post, the treble will be no formality, and the two games at the sheep and Orcs are certainly no formalities. Eight points isn't an unassailable lead and if the dons were to win it could get interesting. I think that we're all frustrated after the performance against Hertz to that effort yesterday. Granted, he did not envisage losing two men so soon. But! I thought the two young lads played well, and I'm convinced Charly will settle in and cement a place. The boy can play. Regards Dembele, reminds me of big Sammy at times, looks like he can't be arsed. The quicker Griff, Tam, Paddy, and Stuarts back the better. Hail hail bhoys.

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04 Feb 2018 13:11:01
It's simple, we are only 8pts in front of Aberdeen. Lucky we have no real competition in this league. Aye we have only lost 2 but we have drawn a fair amount of games.

As for Hendry, nobody is saying he is terrible. However Rodgers said he wanted first team ready, European quality players. Rodgers stated Hendry was bought because "he feels he can be a champions league player"

The facts are this, he is another project who needs huge amounts of development for Europe.

Musonda, who has bags of skill is being cancelled out by the fact that he has the strength and is getting bullied at times.

Again peoples disappointment is down to Rodgers and the board saying they want real quality signings. Where are they? There hasn't been one!

It's because they won't come out and admit we are a total selling club and not willing to progress on that! yet they charge fans more money to watch less quality.

Heard people say "average age 20 without Brown etc" and then say a few years together they will be experienced. That's the point people miss.

If any these young player are good they will be sold in 2 years. Then we will replace with more 20 year olds unready at euro level.

In other words we are working with a youth team from now on. We will not see a full squad of experienced players again until the board change their mind or leave.

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04 Feb 2018 13:26:49
JJ

You are a doom and gloom merchant and I am personally sick of reading your constant tripe. This is your third moaning post in less than 24 hours.

If you are really not happy with being a Celtic fan right now when things are pretty good you may as well go and support another team. Man City and Barcelona are doing pretty well and they spend loads of money.

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04 Feb 2018 13:57:10
Aye gd one.
I for one want progress. if your happy to sit and watch the club take the biggest home and away defeats in Europe and be cannon fodder every year that's fine.
If your happy to make the numbers up that's fine.
If your happy and think the club are doing everything possible to make the team better that's fine.
It's my opinion that there are not.
If you want all the fans to sit and say nothing then you might be one of the people holding the club back. happy to settle for why ever your told. scared to question things.
Maybe it's you that should be supporting another team. aberdeen. you sound a bit of a sheep to me.

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04 Feb 2018 14:56:04
Jungle John whether we like it or not things have changed in the world of football in the last 4 or 5 years. Money talks at Champions league level and to a lesser extent Europa league. It pains me to say but cannon fodder is what we will be in the future of CL games along with probably another 12 teams in the tournament. Until we have a spare 400 million to spend then we are never going to compete anymore at that level. Spending 20 or 30 million isn't going to make any difference at that level, that's half a squad player to the sugar daddy clubs.

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04 Feb 2018 15:22:00
Stevie

The guy isn’t clever enough to realise that.

JJ

So let’s spend the £30 million we made through the champions league and even add the £7 million we made on VVD.
Bayern Munich spend 62.5 million Euros on 2 players last Summer. PSG spend 238 million Euros on 2 players too.
Do you think us spending £37 million is going to even get us near to the next level?

Or do you reallly think we need to spend £37 million to beat Sevco or my second favourite team Aberdeen to the league?

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04 Feb 2018 16:04:31
Wow, Niall stating he is fed up reading tripe.

Pot Kettle Black

Niall is one of the Green tinted specs brigade where he is happy just to be a better team than Sevco. I bet you also think we can beat Zenit!

It’s simple we have fans delighted with being number 1 in Scotland and the regression from last year is nothing to worry about and we have those who like me and JJ and many others I know who are concerned with the obvious regression and is becoming increasingly irritated by BR refusal to stick to a winning team and formation and may I add his recent interviews where he himself is talking a load of tripe.

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04 Feb 2018 17:21:06
We all want the same results but in different ways. i don't think we need to spend fortunes but money does have to invested to keep moving forward. if you don't you stand still or even going backwards.

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04 Feb 2018 17:38:32
Kev

Who threw you a bone?

I bet Ed will be amazed to hear me described as someone who wears green tinted specs. I used to be Mr Negative under Lennon and Delia (nothing like the current moaning though) but I haven’t had anything to be unhappy about yet under Rodgers. 2 champions league appearances, 4 trophies out of 4, treble, invincible season, record breaking unbeaten run, keeping hold of our best players who would have been sold under previous managers, investment in a new pitch, youth players getting a chance. I mean loads for me to moan about!

It seems a few have forgotten the words of the songs they sing “faithful through and through”. Rodgers will sort out this wobble we have been having and any players not performing to his high standard will be shown the door.

And “yes” I do believe we can beat Zenit. I know nothing about them but they either weren’t good enough to qualify for the champions league or dropped out because they weren’t good enough to finish in the top 2 of their section. Either way we have nothing to fear.

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04 Feb 2018 17:58:26
That it JJ.

We all love our club and apologies for telling you to go support another team. Just some of the criticism after this game has been a bit OTT in my opinion.

We are in a tough position where we are so far ahead domestically and so far behind on the European stage. We don’t need to invest massively to win our own league but investing for a good champions league run isn’t going to guarantee success.

I think we are heading in the right direction but agree that we could invest a bit more in the playing side but again tough to get the right players in with the over-inflated market over the border.

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04 Feb 2018 18:37:15
No one is really criticising the players. we all support them every game they play.
It criticism of the actual player recruitment. the way the club goes about its buisness.
Surely not every player needs to be a project. after last season surely everyone thought 2 or 3 bits of quality would have took us on to another level domestically and make some of our euro games a bit easier to watch.
They missed the boat.
Every good team always invests and at least tries to improve.
For me it's total frustration that in a position of strength we don't try and get that bit stronger.
The club leaves themselves open to critisiem. if the league was 3 points in it am sure there would be a lot more complaining.

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04 Feb 2018 19:12:50
Niall - just 🎣🎣🎣 mate for a laugh

I think people are missing a point we should have kicked on from last year. I honestly expected us to sign better players and go unbeaten again with more wins this season.

The drop in standards albeit still winning IMO is alarming and if . yes a big if the sheep or the monkies where a bit more consistent then we would be under pressure.

Zenit will comfortably beat us home and away - they are far better than Anderlecht and they schooled us at home and thankfully they where in a mess for the first game.

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04 Feb 2018 23:22:18
No bother Kev.

Agree we should have kicked on but after an unbeaten season it is hard to replace players who have really done nothing wrong.

I also think one of our big issues is moving players on. I would have expect to get a fee for Sviatchenko but every possibility he will be back after his loan ends as they won’t be able to afford the fee. I would have thought Gamboa would have gone, possibly Simunovic too. Maybe a few of the midfield too if there weren’t so many injuries. Plus we are still carrying deadwood like Allan and Ciftci who we will be lucky to see a fraction of the money we paid for them back.

To be honest the quicker we are out the EL the better. The Thursday nights are a killer and there is no real money in it for us.

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04 Feb 2018 10:29:54
Such a bunch of panic merchants! we were rubbish it happens, we have dropped in form since last year? It was obviously going to happen! Musonda isn't better than what we have! He's not even played 2 games! Hendry was awful? No it was an awful team performance. We drop points and it's the end of the world. We should be beating Kilmarnock but they worked hard and Steve Clark has got them playing well. There's no need to jump on players each week saying he's not good enough then the next week raving about them, it's just madness!

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04 Feb 2018 12:43:42
Spot on! Some of the posts after yesterday’s game have been nothing short of laughable. We were pish, we move on and try to emulate the Hearts game again next time. Obviously BR has played down the pitch to avoid shouts of sour grapes but anybody who believes that it doesn’t play a big part are kidding themselves. As a team we pass extremely well and that surface is atrocious. It’s not the only reason but it is a factor.

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04 Feb 2018 12:54:23
Compare the wage bill of Celtic and Kilmarnock and that should be enough evidence that Celtic should be winning these types of games week in week out.

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04 Feb 2018 13:07:06
Robdoc 21 if that was how football worked teams like real Madrid or Manchester city or psg would NEVER lose or draw a game.

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04 Feb 2018 08:53:29
Bit confused-been hearing a good few people (so much on here to be fair) slagging of Hendry's performance. Considering it was an away game debut where we went from bossing first 10-15 minutes to losing two key men, I thought he handled himself very well. I know we've all heard enough about that pitch, Brillo pad has to be fairest description of that I've heard but throw that into the mix and I think the boy did well. Thinks will come good in midfield too, where for me the real problems were. Musonda might be lightweight but he was everywhere and didn't stop getting into good spaces, needed to ball played to him earlier (or even played to him) every time he got to D on box edge. Forrest did my head in cutting in at top of box every time when he taking it to the line for cutback woulda been less predictable. Speaking of predictable, I'll let people finish my sentence on Sinclair themselves.

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04 Feb 2018 09:53:16
Baffled with the criticism of Hendry i thought he was one of our better players.

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04 Feb 2018 10:18:51
Hendry had a few shaky moments. Got caught out for pace a few times. Lost or gave away possession when trying to go forward, a worry. He may turn into a great defender but he isn’t near that yet and that’s what we needed right now.

He is a project. You never felt, this guy’s the real deal. You thought, ok but prone to making the same mistakes of the players he’s meant to replace.

No better or worse than what we have. Is that enough? Naw it’s no.

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04 Feb 2018 10:40:49
I thought hendry was decent . looks too have a good first touch . he did get caught out of position too much . and ran into trouble when coming out of defence. but first game with new team mates . musonda looked like what he is. an 18 year old with promise. has he the physical presence for the central midfield role? With Sinclair out of form wouldn't the better move have been to put musonda on the left wing?

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04 Feb 2018 10:54:32
A new player, still getting to know his team, tactics and role - in his first game (away) and he loses both defensive partners in the early stages should not be labelled or blamed. Especially when so many of his more experienced team mates were struggling to do even the simple things in a game we never really threatened to score.
It was a bad day, a bad performance and a bad result, for only the second time in two seasons; but we all know that we can (and will) play much better and have to put this down to a deserved victory for Steve Clarke and his team, who did their homework, while we didn't.

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04 Feb 2018 11:00:49
Except he's actually 22 this year.

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04 Feb 2018 11:12:04
Thought that myself drb, Sinclair can't beat the 1st man or pass a 5 yard ball to feet at the moment. I would rather see Johnstone or Miller given a chance, or like you say Musonda. Yes, he has been benched recently, but why not have an enthusiastic, fearless Johnston or Miller coming on.

Sinclair is one of our best players on form, sadly he has been nowhere near the standards he set last season.

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04 Feb 2018 12:16:16
Nobody was blaming Hendry. Just being realistic about his performance. There were times he looked good and other when he took risks and they could have cost us. That’s just what happened. The reason he is in focus is simply because he was brought in to make the defence better as we all knew it had to be improved.

I didn’t see anything that suggests he’s better than what we have. I hope he progresses and cuts out taking Boyata risks when his passing can’t find the man.

That can be sorted. He did ok for his first game, but it still fell short of what I had hoped we would bring in. In the game against Zenit, he would be 3rd choice with Simo and Ajer being ahead of him as both to me look better cb’s.

If the aim was to bring in better than what we had then I’m not convinced after yesterday’s performance.

He will definitely get a run in the team now, so the ball is literally in his court to establish himself. I hope he does it.

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04 Feb 2018 12:26:57
I’d have Musonda in there for Sinclair all day every day The now. Nail on head, doesn’t beat first man, doesn’t complete easiest of passes.

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08 Feb 2018 00:02:02
Kilmarnock won because of the terrible condition of the playing surface and the fact that tactical genius Clarke had narrowed and shortened the pitch . Our players bravely went about their job professionally until they saw 2 of our defenders injured by the playing surface within ten minutes of each other in the first half . From that on our players put their safety first and I certainly wouldn't blame them .
These pitches are absolutely fine if the club management want them to be fine but that certainly wasn't the case at Kilmarnock on Saturday .

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08 Feb 2018 00:05:18
Daviebhoy, I have no idea of what kind of a player Musonda will be for Celtic . I will be amazed if after his 18 mths spell with us he is anyway as good for us as Scot.

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04 Feb 2018 08:18:30
Yesterdays performance was pretty dismal compared to others. We have set our standards and expectations so high that some see any points dropped as a mini-crisis. Getting two of starting line up players injured early in the game did not help the game plan but, we should have enough on the bench to cover against current opposition. Killie were good for their win and that is that. Not the end of the world and there are going to be upsets along the way to another title.
Killie game is over, let's move on H. H.

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04 Feb 2018 07:57:41
I have a laugh at how OTT some of the posters are after a defeat. In all my years watching, there have been big highs and equally big lows. Celtic are in a great time just now, with a great manager and a team who could win 10 in a row. At the moment we are ravaged by injury and are maybe lacking a bit of spark from last season, so how about the fans see this is a time for just getting behind the bhoys and giving them a lift. They've given me plenty of highs lately. Instead of slagging the team, Rodgers, lawwell, transfers and whatever else you want to blame.

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04 Feb 2018 10:14:48
Well said NT, some of the fans who are old enough should just remember the 90's and some of the younger ones should just take a look at the league tables of those years, and think how lucky they are now. It was tough being a celt then.

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04 Feb 2018 10:36:43
Some fans are so spoilt and panicking over nothing.
We were never going to hit the same hights as last season. There was always going to be a slump.
We are on course for another treble and in Europe competition after Xmas. Yes we are not playing at our best at the moment but just like all fantastic runs come to an end so does form slumps.

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04 Feb 2018 12:26:29
The 90’s should never be used as a benchmark. That time was the zenith our that self interested cabal ifcan okd boards lacks of ambition.

It was truly grim and I wouldn’t wish it on any supporter.

We have to decide if we really are serious about stepping up. Is anybody convinced we are with how we dealt with the defensive frailties? If you are you really are living in the 99’s when anything was welcomed. We are better than that. Let’s ficus on being better than mons team rather than the utter dross we endured in the 90’s until TB took over.

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Review Of The Day 4th February 2018

04 Feb 2018 04:38:17
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th February 2018

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04 Feb 2018 02:04:46
Terrible transfer window. Rodgers saying Hendry is bought for Europe. Makes you laugh.

If Rodgers didn't talk so much rubbish at times it wouldn't be as bad.

Revolving door? revolving players of similar ability, projects in and out.

Time Lawwell and that got pulled up for dragging their heels with our progress.

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04 Feb 2018 01:49:48
You have to give the killie board bit of credit in going for Steve Clarke, I actually thought he'd be good for us when Ronnie was shoved, he's arguably the best manager in the league, and has now beaten both us and sevco at Home and drawn with both away.

more than mcinnes can boast of, suppose we just have to accept that with all these young players comes inconsistency and some shocking performances like today, don't get why some people thought Hendry was good, he looked nervous and slow throughout, in other words, he'll fit in nicely with our other centre half's.

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04 Feb 2018 08:01:03
Aye that's great, let's dismiss Hendry to the s**t pile after one game, played on a brillo pad, where his 2 starting defensive partners got injured in first 30 minutes. Give the lad a chance.

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04 Feb 2018 08:40:42
Hendry will be fine. Didn't look out of place at all. Did ok for his debut. Good signing.

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04 Feb 2018 09:45:35
He was nothing short of p*sh NT87, yeah the surface wasn’t good, but neither was he or any of the guys at the back, the fact he was outpaced a lot was worrying, slow, nervous and poor defending, like I say, he’ll fit in nicely with the other hammer throwers in that position. Bittons too slow aswell, positioning poor, never a centre half.

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04 Feb 2018 01:38:15
Is it Just me or have The team lost the need for speed, urgency and passion, some players who do not know that they need to put the effort in and win win win, or maybe its the managers way to play the game? passing side way's and back all you want. I just watched the rangers v hibs and to be honest it was a game of football and teams wanting to win and go for it. Just want us to get another steady winning run going. ( injuries piling up ) plastic pitches banned please. well done lenny and the league will be ours. hail hail.

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04 Feb 2018 11:26:53
hendry was done a good few times for pace, in fact he was out paced and actually stopped running after the winger.

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04 Feb 2018 01:23:46
Sometimes route 1 must be deployed, today for example, its been proven before, we can't play our normal game on that surface. All this passing from side to side then backwards is good when its working, but from early on it should have been decided to play long. Poor poor performance, poor tactics and poor desire from the players.

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