Celtic Banter Archive December 04 2020

04 Dec 2020 20:34:31
The fence around CP has irked me. It's like the board are sending a message along the lines of 'Go fekkkk yourselves and leave us alone', whilst failing to realise that it is us who have put every one of them where they are. Their arrogance is shameful. They have quickly forgotten where they came from. HH.

04 Dec 2020 21:07:50
I think it’s more to do with social distancing.
In the 90s the fans demonstrated outside the front steps and I believe that would’ve been allowed on Sunday if it wasn’t for the times we’re living.
Sunday was an unfortunate experience for all who’s connected to the club but I think having 30 police vans in attendance with police vans lined up a row along with fencing was like a red rag to a bull.
If it wasn’t for the C. V regulations the demonstration would’ve played out peacefully.

{Ed007's Note - After the police statement tonight I think they might have called for the fence to be put up.}

04 Dec 2020 18:55:40
The GB have created the atmosphere at Celtic Park for many years and sometimes have been the only thing worth watching. They have crossed the line for me on occasions but their banner today was 100% spot on and the irony of the reference to an Irishman as an absentee landlord in Scotland can't be lost on anybody with half an understanding of Irish, English, Scottish politics and was right on the money.

But I don't know if it was the green, pink, purple rinse or blue brigade that was responsible for events after the Ross County game. But whoever they were those that crossed the line were self entitled fuds.

If somebody surrounded my house and threw fences, bottles whatever at me and verbally abused me to the extent that I needed to escort my family out of my own house I'd have built a steel fence around it this week as well.

And I wouldn't have divorced the wife no matter what you thought of her or how much you or me didn't like her or how bad her cooking was because I was brought up never to bow to bullying neds no matter the personal cost.

04 Dec 2020 19:09:59
There would be an inevitability about splitting up with the wife.
Why wait when it’s never going to work out.
Everybody in the household would remain upset from the husband, the wife and more importantly the children.
There’s no point cutting your nose off.

04 Dec 2020 19:20:08
Buzz Bomb because when you tell me ‘a better dae something’ you’ve no chance of me doing it absolutely 0% even if of you cut off ma big nose. But if you point out ma failings politely and explain why ‘it would be better if I did do something’ I’d take it onboard 100%.

04 Dec 2020 19:37:49
JFP
The supporters have tried everything for change in the last couple of months.
They did try and be nice about it but the board weren’t listening.
Lennon was called a legend and he was thanked for his efforts and everything else he’s done for our club as both player and manager but a change was needed.
Now the supporters have been forced to try a different kind of pressure.

04 Dec 2020 20:12:59
Buzz, I agree however where do the board go to get someone who could make a difference in the short term? This isn't a dress rehearsal or a build for next season dilemma. HH.

04 Dec 2020 20:58:02
Bestybhoy
It’s a hard one.
At least the board can’t be criticised for rushing into getting a new manager because they need to make the correct appointment.
Realistically Dan Petrescu could be a good shout.
He put Cluj on the map by winning the last 3 Romanian titles.
Dan also has good European and International experience as a player and he’s took that experience into management.
He’s the perfect age for a manager who’s learned his trade and also has plenty of mileage in the tank.
He will also be affordable because he’ll earn more money with Celtic.
And his time at Cluj could be coming to an end. Maybe it’s fate.

{Ed007's Note - Petrescu left Cluj a few days ago, Leon.}

04 Dec 2020 21:13:48
It could be a good fit Ed. 👍.

{Ed007's Note - It could be mate.}

04 Dec 2020 21:14:24
As we all know, a manager works with his own team. Is there a realistic possibility that our board would KO Kennedy and Strachan to facilitate Petrescu's guys? Fekk me, at the moment I'd take Ken Dodd and the Diddy Men. HH.

{Ed007's Note - Remember the Club tried to appoint John Kennedy as DOF under Rodgers

04 Dec 2020 21:28:58
Would that have been a good thing Ed007? Is that his real calling instead of being on the coaching staff? Why didn't it happen? I know he's Celtic mad (which in itself shouldn't be a defining factor but is an added bonus) but IF he is part of the problem then he should go. HH.

{Ed007's Note - I don't know if Kennedy could do the job but Rodgers was all for it before he done a bunk and Kennedy became NL's assistant instead.
It's hard to know who would be good DOF, look at Ajax just now - they have Marc Overmars as DOF and Edwin van der Sar is the CEO - but Kennedy has been studying football at different levels for years and impresses people who know more about the game than me.
I can also see Kennedy moving on when time is called on the Lawwell/Lennon project to make his way as a manager in his own right.

04 Dec 2020 17:07:21
I have a question regarding teams and players suffering because of the CV rules.
In America in the NFL games are POSTPONED if teams cannot field a strong enough team, why does SPFL insist games must be played with severely weakened teams.
THIS question I have to ask Sevco now have had 2 players breaking CV rules and another first team player more recently having to self isolate because of Cv, how come NO other first team Sevco players have had to self isolate and miss games, are Sevco hiding the truth about who has come into contact with these players.

04 Dec 2020 17:32:32
Track and Trace are relying on peepul telling the truth.

04 Dec 2020 18:11:31
The suspicions have been there since pre-season and how it seems to miraculously avoid them domestically, in Europe and Internationally is beyond belief. Not for a minute wishing ill-health on anyone, but something seems very odd. The gods are certainly smiling on them, between our shambolic mess, their guaranteed penalties and the amount of their opponents being decimated week-by-week. Spooky stuff.

04 Dec 2020 20:30:39
They can't afford to regularly test their players it wouldn't surprise me if they're avoiding it to cost cut. Not sure how much it costs to test a full squad regularly for this full season maybe Buzz Bomb can come up with the numbers but it won't be cheap.

05 Dec 2020 12:30:26
I see tin foil has are out. Lads stop looking for excuses we are rubbish this year. it's as simple as that. They have to test there is no avoiding it just like we do and every club in the league.

04 Dec 2020 13:07:40
The Sevco curse has struck again.
Dundee Utd will have 9 players isolating for 14 days due to C. V regulations.
Their coaching staff have also been wiped out.
They will all miss games against Livingston and you’ve guessed it Sevco.
It’s becoming beyond a joke now.

04 Dec 2020 16:08:26
Buzz Bomb I agree even the C.V. appears to be a Free Masonic conspiracy to stop the 10 but not that long ago we could have fielded an A team and a B team and both would have beaten slippy and the gstrings handsomely.

The gap has closed massively and there’s not a lot between us which is disgraceful we should have been out of site. After 10 the club could have sold Eddy and the kitchen sink and we’d have bothered not a jot because our grins would need to have been surgically removed.

The gap closure is 35% attributable to their improvement and 65% down to our demise. It’s not the C.V.-1690s fault it’s not the refs fault it’s not the linesman’s fault it’s not the MSSMs fault albeit they’re loving it. It’s our fault. We need look no further than home to lay the blame.

The GB warmed them they were gambling with the 10. It remains to be seen but it could prove to be a bet lost.

04 Dec 2020 16:29:02
JFP, I agree.
I just thought Tannadice looked like a tricky place to go too after a trip to Poland.
After recent European games they’ve played at home to Livingston and Hamilton.
Also away to Falkirk and Ross County.
I think they would’ve struggled away to a C. V free Dundee United side.

04 Dec 2020 12:10:43
I noticed interesting statistics regarding the goalkeepers.
I mentioned last night Barkas has conceded 40% of all shots on target.
Bain's record is worse,47% of all shots on target have resulted in goals.
Surprisingly Allan McGregor has also conceded 40% of all shots on target.
He's now conceded 11 goals and has only made 16 saves all season.
Jon McLaughlin has been a successful signing so far.
He's kept 9 clean sheets from only 10 games.
He's only conceded 2 goals from 18 shots on target, which is only 11% conceded.
McLaughlin is saving 8 out of every 9 shots.
McGregor has had 9 more shots to save than McLaughlin this season which incredibly all 9 extra shots have resulted in McGregor conceding goals.
In summary the Celtic goalkeepers have both been horrendous.
Also McGregor has received good protection from his defence by only having to deal with 27 shots on target but those statistics suggest his saving % is just as bad as the Celtic goalkeepers.
The success story of the season has been Jon McLaughlin.

04 Dec 2020 13:44:00
Hi Buzz as you like stats then apart from having the worst defensive record in this years Europa Group Stage we are currently 570th out of 576 of the worst defensive record of all teams that have played in the group stages.
We have a game to go and if we concede 3 goals we are jiont 576th, 4 sees us with the worst defensive record ever in the competition.
What is it that DD and PL can't see?

{Ed007's Note - What they do see is the same thing they've always seen - European football is a bonus and results aren't THAT important.}

04 Dec 2020 14:29:17
Hugh
I seen that this morning, Horrific.

04 Dec 2020 15:22:20
new goal keeper in January is a must.

04 Dec 2020 02:00:16
17 goals conceded so far in the Europa league. We have conceded the most of all 80 clubs in the group stages. Yet the Board continues to let this rubbish show carry on.

04 Dec 2020 08:23:28
There's asbig a problem in front of defence as the defence themselves.
Browns 2 yards off pace, cal mac and rogic can't tackle, Christie fouls every other tackle.
Opposing teams are running right through our midfield time and time again.
We don't regain possession after losing ball and front players just aren't holding ball up for runners.
Defence is poor but must be a nightmare playing at the back for celtic just now.

04 Dec 2020 09:00:44
The thing that surprises me is that Lennon doesn't try making a few changes.
We seem to stick with Brown, McGregor, Christie, etc every match hoping things will change.
I feel last night was a perfect opportunity to mix things up a bit seeing as we are already out of the competition.

04 Dec 2020 09:10:45
Divcelt absolutely bang on.

04 Dec 2020 09:48:10
Brown and McGregor are stale, I would drop them both for the upcoming fixtures. McGregor flatters to deceive and seems to escape criticism. He's been rotten all season and needs a break until January.

04 Dec 2020 12:01:27
Spot on divcelt hh.

04 Dec 2020 13:47:19
That's twice now McGregor has got in the way of a defender while nowhere near the ball and cost us a goal in this group. He's done it in the league also. The drop in his standard this season is the most alarming as he's always been our Mr Consistent.

{Ed007's Note - Don't worry about it, the Celtic Family on social media are concentrating on crucifying Barkas just now but they'll get round to McGregor shortly as they're running out of players, coaches and board members to single out. Taylor, Ajer, Brown, Ntcham, Edouard, Duffy, LG... etc etc etc they've all had it at some point in time. It seems that our defence's terrible performances and leaving the 'keeper exposed is actually the 'keeper's fault, who'd have thought it?
McGregor's form has been as poor as anyone's - if not worse considering as you say he was Mr Consistent - and he's started to give away possession too easily & far too many free-kicks. Maybe he's just needing a rest to get that sharpness back but McGregor is definitely not playing at his best and hasn't been for months. When McGregor plays well, pulling the strings and getting quick passing moves goes we look a totally different team, we're relying on Ajer bringing the ball forward too much when it should be McGregor doing that job.}

04 Dec 2020 15:43:44
Agree Ed while I'm not solely blaming McGregor it's collectively as a team, there's far too many that haven't performed consistently enough but at least last night for a long time it was slightly enjoyable to watch (defending aside) McGregor could do with a rest maybe give Turnbull a few starts to give Callum a chance for his body to recuperate especially with the December games coming thick and fast a firing Callum will benefit the team. Brown's form of late probably hasn't helped him as he's probably being exposed more than he's used too although I thought he had one of his better games this season last night.

{Ed007's Note - If I was Lennon I'd be spending training/coaching sessions on defending crosses & set pieces, make sure that the players know their roles and positions when defending the goal area. That would go a LONG way to sorting out a lot of the defensive frailties we've been showing and Barkas would have some input on where knows himself he'd need covering at set-pieces.}

04 Dec 2020 17:52:32
Imo to many men in the box tend to get in each others road also if ball knocked out it goes strait to opposition hh.

{Ed007's Note - Better all round organisation, Jic 👍

04 Dec 2020 20:05:22
By his words it sounds like he's looking to concentrate on the defence and shake it up a little so hopefully we will benefit from that. Even a man on the posts could help for now.

04 Dec 2020 20:07:47
We must be a delight to play against elhamed soft bitton soft ajer soft laxalt soft julien soft Duffy hopeless. back in the day we had balde majalby Boyd McNamara who would have kicked the head off their granny. Oh and barkas looks soft.

03 Dec 2020 23:24:59
First phone call in the morning should be to put in an offer to Southampton for Forster.
Lennon said that he is looking at signings for the January window, WHY, Has he been told that his safe until the end of the season? I shudder to think what standard they will be.
We have never replaced K. T. where did that money go? Scott Sinclair never replaced.
Who picks the team? Because I cannot understand why Ntcham plays before Turnbull. He must be regretting signing for Celtic.
I am dreading the game at Ibrox as it could turn out to be really embarrassing.

03 Dec 2020 23:10:30
I love NL but its clear to me and almost every hoop I speak to he can't turn this around. By all accounts he is a fantastic man manager ala Clough, MON but a master tactician maybe not. If that's his forte he needs players willing to run through a wall for him. Is that happening or is it likely to? Not after Ferenvaros. Our run of form and signings this year have been nothing short of disastrous and if the board think he will turn it around they see something few of us do.

04 Dec 2020 09:57:30
St Johnstone is Neils last through of the dice.