Celtic Banter Archive August 04 2020

 

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04 Aug 2020 22:14:38
Fulham going up, hopefully that gives us the edge in the Toney deal.

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04 Aug 2020 22:25:47
Perhaps. are we getting carried away with Toney or does Strachan give us a better insight ie . he can see the current squad and talent. is he saying that Toney would enhance what we have .

No doubt that would give NL and pistol Pete some added reassurance

I don't think we have ever bought a 3rd tier English player for a material sum. of money.

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04 Aug 2020 23:06:07
Lubo

We bought Gary Hooper from Scunthorpe for £2.4m in 2012 when they were in league 1.

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04 Aug 2020 23:08:29
Sorry my mistake on Hooper, they were in the Championship and it was 2010.

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05 Aug 2020 02:50:28
I can't see us signing Toney, Peterborough have been too public about negotiations and Lawwell won't like that. Also I'm beginning to think Peterborough are exploiting our alleged interest in Toney to incite a bidding war.

I reckon we will sign someone who has not been mentioned.

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05 Aug 2020 07:36:02
Said it from day one that Toney wouldn’t be coming! He’ll go to a championship club. all this garbage from their chairman is to get a few more quid out the lad! Like Phil says, there ain’t a chance in hell that lawell will deal with these 2 jokers at Peterborough! The way they conduct themselves is amateur hour!

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04 Aug 2020
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Bought this wee cracker Celtic Top online

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04 Aug 2020 22:19:06
Jesus wept.

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04 Aug 2020 22:46:53
We have a kit now worthy of champions and my god what a piece of class.

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05 Aug 2020 07:49:46
Kits hotels don't win leagues

Solid CBs and versatile LWBs certainly help

Most of our is very corporate. revenue focused ( fine) but we need 2 incoming of decent quality.

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05 Aug 2020 09:16:22
Lubo mate would you prefer we were dressed like the tramps from govan. sales of our kits allow us to plan for the future.10iar hh.

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04 Aug 2020 20:40:40
If we did bring Fletcher in he would at best be 3rd choicecand at 33 for a season on a free it could be decent business. he offers something different good in the air and holds it up realky well. horeses for courses bhoys heavy pitches away at Aberdeen he'd be an option.

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04 Aug 2020 21:50:19
Totally agree.

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04 Aug 2020 20:27:57
Ed

Back on site after a 3 year absence but check in all the time to see where the usual contributors and you are saying. BIG season ahead. Anyways, I was watching the last 2 celtic rangers matches ( lost 1 and somehow won 1 ( the forster final) . Do you think they have the Indian sign over us at the moment, ie who fears who and are we READY for them over a 90 minute tussle. In your honest opinion do you think JOB DONE of we can take care of the rest of the SPFL and hope they mess up or switch off? I'd be keen to hear your views on how you think we will win this league and how the head to heads will go. Still think we are a bit soft in the middle and soft at CB, great talent in there but worry about when we are in the heat of battle.

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{Ed007's Note - Neil Lennon got his tactics wrong in the LC Final and didn't learn his lesson for the next game. I think Lennon will play 3-5-2 or even 4-5-1 against TRIFC so that we aren't getting overran in the midfield again, that should be more than enough for us to dominate as we have better players in every position and on the bench.
I expect us to win the league by a minimum of 9 points (probably 10+) but I really have no idea how the derbies will go, we'll probably get 3 wins and draw.}

04 Aug 2020 20:55:39
Great confidence, so basically you think we played on to their hands and forgot to win the battle prior to playing our stuff, giving them the impetus? Mentality will be key because I genuinely think that we have something to prove after 180 minutes of being out smarted. Thanks for the opinion and I'm a little more relaxed now that you've suggested it was tactics and not an inferiority complex, stage fright or them being better in the big headline games. Clearly if they get consistency elsewhere we will have our work cut out BUT hopefully our quality and strength and depth will shine through. Big test versus Killie on Sunday and not a game for the faint hearted. Thanks Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - We were playing 2 men against their 3 in the middle of the park and that's why we were overran, if we tweak that against them we'll be fine.}

04 Aug 2020 21:12:23
What 3 Ed? . brown callum and Christie?

A team for TRFC away could be

3 5 1 1

Barkas
Ajer
Jullien
Elhamed
Forrest RWB
Christie LWB
Brown
McGregor
Ntcham
Elyounussi in a 10 role ( free and roaming )
Eddy up top

Just a thought.

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{Ed007's Note - Have you got a brother named Rich by any chance? 😋 I'd play Elhamed at RWB if he's fit and Taylor or even any new LB on the left if we can offload Bolingoli - although I'd have no problem with Taylor there if he keeps showing up for his shift like he has been. Forrest goes missing in the derbies so I'd rather have more defensive players on the flanks.
I'd start with Brown, McGregor and Christie in the middle over Ntcham as those 3 are more physical and aggressive to win the battle, letting Ntcham come on later in the game when legs are tired and his runs & eye for a pass should cause problems. I like the idea of Elyounoussi playing the free role just off Edouard 👍
Remember too with the new 5 out of 9 subs no matter what game we're playing we're going to have some bench to change things. With the depth of squad we've got and with more additions to come that new rule will really help us to continue to dominate Scotland imo and not just with the first team players but it will help us give youngsters more game time as well.}

04 Aug 2020 21:42:57
I had forest as a sub and elhamed at RWB and Bitton in a back 3 . so we weren't far away

Worry sometimes about our size hence taylor out for Christie at LWB but take your point about needing energy in the middle and ntcham as an impact sub

My brother? Yes i have one. He goes by many names if althe Ghirls are asking but Rich isn't one of them!

TRFC have improved, and they're physical. and they are not scared of us . we now have to THINK about set up and subs and formations and sub plots all over the park . we need to be careful this year

We should make you the manager for the Glasgow derbies!

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{Ed007's Note - Me and my assistant manager Welshy would get lifted before the Huddle for letting off pyro from the tunnel.}

04 Aug 2020 21:43:09
I smell 💩💩 Win the last 11 trophies out of 11 and we have an inferiority complex 🤣🤣 The most bizarre comment of the week.

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04 Aug 2020 22:00:44
Christie at left wing back! Just naw! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣.

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04 Aug 2020 22:02:03
Stevie

Wrong term perhaps

The FACT is that there last 2 performances will have an impact on our players . I'm saying that they won't fear us . not sure about our collective view of them.

Inferiority complex is the wrong term but I know what I mean. we used to thump them. play around with them. tease them . and take the p@@@. we aren't in that situation now

Equally, with modification to set up we could go out and trounce them but if you think it'll be easy based on recent evidence o think you're being a bit complacent to be honest.

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04 Aug 2020 22:07:51
Browns the reason we were outplayed in both games, .

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04 Aug 2020 22:16:15
Interesting Aindoh . and yet we would never go in to a TRFC match without him . you think his card is marked and they know how to neutralise his influence and impact on the game?

I think, as per Ed, we need to plan for TRFC head to heads a little better this year and maybe even pit them off the scent with different game plans for different phases of the game.

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04 Aug 2020 23:03:37
I think the more pressing thing at the minute is the frailty in the centre of defence, the Hamilton guys won too many headers, that they shouldn't have, I think Ajers best position is at right back, El hamedi is a better right back, and he might be a better centre back than Ajer as well, ideally I would try to get in an experienced, talented, mobile, young centre back to try to stabilise the centre of defence, because if not, we have to hope that Barkas is a really good goalie.

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04 Aug 2020 23:28:30
Christie always on right when in middle I think hh.

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05 Aug 2020 00:08:44
I think broony is on his last legs and we lack the pace in midfield with him sitting deep I would play with ajer in midfield holding and cal Mac and Christie in front as ajer can make those bursting runs from deep that breaks the lines and with moi eddy and dembele Forrest Johnston on the wings we would ruin them even if we played with Connell or mcinroy deep and pushed Christie forward that's not even including ntcham and klimalla we should have far too much for this rangers side they are bang average without Alfie roofe is a poor replacement.

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05 Aug 2020 00:41:13
I doubt they would have zero impact on our players confidence we've won the last 9 leagues and 11 trophies they are the ones in the last saloon the pressure is on them and the pish they're signing isn't making them any stronger. We just need some more depth as my worry is another injury plagued season like last. With games coming thick and fast and the layoff they've had and. with plastic pitches just hope we don't have players pulling up.

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07 Aug 2020 10:05:30
Bravetart the boy roofe is a player if he can stay injury free. Definitely better than they have got.

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04 Aug 2020 20:16:15
Hi ed, is ther substance to the Fletcher rumours? It's an absolute frightening thought! I thought we were past the days of topping up past it players retirement funds. I have really been hoping for more ambition with the links to Toney and Ajeti.

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{Ed007's Note - I've not heard of any interest from Celtic in Fletcher except from the stuff on social media.}

04 Aug 2020 21:38:27
🙏 I hope you are correct Ed on that one.

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{Ed007's Note - If you were a footballer coming to the end of your career with a few quid in the bank would you want to be 3rd or 4th choice anywhere? That's OK if you're 35/36/Defoe-old but at 33 surely Fletcher thinks he can do better than that and has more to offer than be in that lowly squad position unless there's injury/fitness concerns.}

04 Aug 2020 21:47:37
Maybe he just wants the thrill of playing a part and being around the place for 10IAR whilst he is fit enough . I think he'd be a good option for a year and right up for it . and then we can have a year 2 option or let him. go to . you've guessed it . Hibernian or Aberdeen

I actually like fletcher as a player when he is surrounded by very mobile players around him.

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{Ed007's Note - But what part would he play in 10IAR, what disaster could befall our team that Fletcher would play any kind of part in 10IAR? He'd just look like a bit of knob
I was speaking to someone earlier and they said for the money Fletcher would cost we could sign Stevie May - just think about that, it's not just on here I need to put up with folk talking $hite 😁

04 Aug 2020 21:57:02
I think fletcher and marshall are both looking to be part of a team that wins 10. I feel both would be squad players at best. If we go 2 up and have 5 - eddy LG klimala to toney and fletcher I'd be chuffed
CB and versatile defender would be nice also.

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04 Aug 2020 22:08:01
ed do you think we will bring in any striker that's capable of being in front of edouard n griffiths if fit?

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{Ed007's Note - Toney and probably Ajeti would be in front of LG. I'd rather see us keep Bayo and use him wherever Fletcher would fit into the squad, if you're scraping the barrel then scrape your own first and with 5 subs allowed this season there's plenty of scope to give game time to fringe players and youngsters.
We also have Klimala who has worked hard to get himself into the picture but just think what would happen if Edouard gets a knock and LG is struggling for whatever reason, do you really want Klimala AND Steven Fletcher leading the line for The 10?}

04 Aug 2020 22:19:41
Ed

Come on.

We could have europe . league cup . scottish cup . league. there will be lots of times where we need a big lump with a decent touch and a bit of experience. if he knows the score and accepts the 2md fiddle status and we can make the finances work ( for a year) a wee bit of experience in the building wouldn't be a disaster.

Hed be as influential as Rogic!

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{Ed007's Note - That wouldn't be hard lol.}

04 Aug 2020 22:23:13
I think fletcher and klimala would be better than bayo and klimala bit for clarity, I'd rather have klimala and Werner or Salah or Mbappe 💚😮🙄.

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04 Aug 2020 22:47:17
No that's my point. but I don't see us forking out for Toney and I know you think differently but to me ajeti looks to be stalling. i would much rather have Fletcher than bayo right enough any day of the week.

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04 Aug 2020 23:33:08
Scraping the bottom of the barrell is the best way to sum this link up! We are going for 10 and some of you think Fletcherbis a good idea? F*#k me! I agree a more presence would add to the squad. But I'm sure we can do a lot better.

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05 Aug 2020 06:14:19
We can always do a lot better SOS. But we never do.

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04 Aug 2020 19:38:25
levein on radio scotland saying we tried to sign hickey 5 or 6 times and knocked back. he said he can se him moving in to a holding midfield role I've said for a long time the boy is good enough to go in to sitting midfield role. he loves a tackle. very intelligent footballer and superb with both feet he's a outstanding talent. we all go on about replacing brown. there could be the answer.

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04 Aug 2020 19:55:49
I know what your saying but giving the chance couldn't mcinroy connell or robertson do the same.

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04 Aug 2020 20:21:04
i don't think any will get the chance long enough unfortunately to be able to say.

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05 Aug 2020 00:19:56
Mcinroy Connell an Robertson even Henderson have the quality to be great midfielders for Celtic it's the fact Lennon won't drop brown to play these lads hickey is a good potential lb or rb I would buy him to challenge frimpong at rb he could move to midfield but what is people's obsessions with moving players fast good cross and through ball can beat a man and can TACKLE we need an actual defender at rb think he could what we are missing el injured is not the case and frimpong is never a rb so maybe he could fit right in there even if we did sign him would like too see Danny church get a run in the team big strong good footwork and good passing for a youngster better than spending money when we have home grown talent.

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05 Aug 2020 01:04:04
No one takes Levein seriously, not even Hearts fans.

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04 Aug 2020 18:06:59
Just read an article online where, apparently, Chris Sutton has said that he thinks Steven Fletcher is a "sensible" option for Celtic in order to give Eddy a rest for certain games. Am I missing something here?

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04 Aug 2020 18:21:42
In a way I think he's right. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer somebody with more potential. But what are we realistically after unless Eddie leaves? It's a 3rd/ 4th choice striker. He's ready made to deliver domestically, he'll be well aware of the role he'll be playing, and he's on a free. Ambitious? Naw. Sensible? Aye probably.

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04 Aug 2020 18:45:44
Ambitious?, Naw. Sensible?, Naw.

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04 Aug 2020 18:50:24
There has to be better options.

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04 Aug 2020 18:56:58
i think big fletcher is a sensible option to considering the fire power we all ready have. and he offers something different big physical striker and knows the league and played at a good level.

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04 Aug 2020 19:05:09
just going on this season 13 goals in 23 starts for a team sitting 16th in the championship isn't to bad at all. but personally hope we go all out for toney although i can't see us paying up.

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04 Aug 2020 19:39:28
Liam if your going to talk about his goals scoring stats why only use one season. He scored 38 times in a 136 games for Wednesday. that's piss poor. His whole career is a goal every 4th game. He's pish.

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04 Aug 2020 19:44:33
How many penalty's?

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04 Aug 2020 20:02:31
Any striker we sign (if we sign) has to be of a potential quality to develop into a eduard replacement first choice striker otherwise it's another uneeded wage and we then still have to replace eduard when he leaves and for me fletcher isn't that.

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04 Aug 2020 22:26:56
Maybe the manager wants someone to compliment eddy, similar to Larsson and Sutton perhaps?

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05 Aug 2020 06:52:32
what's you point on that goal ratio kev. big Sutton scored 60 odd goals for us in 138 games. big fletcher can add something different he has always been a good big player. see if he was 26 would people still be not wanting him. age means nothing. Edouard is number one and we all know what griff offers there's bags of goals in him and klimala looks like he knows were the net is to big fletcher adds something totally different from the rest of them something were missing in our strikers.

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04 Aug 2020 13:52:28
Norwich quoting teams 40 mill for the boy Godfrey just relegated. so if eddy goes and kets hope it's bext season let's get as much as poss. still think kt went cheap when you see some bang average players down there.

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04 Aug 2020 14:04:31
Pretty sure arsenal will agree.

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04 Aug 2020 14:35:53
If Godfrey is valued at 40m then Eddy is easily valued at 70m, absolute madness, the lads a good defender and has plenty of potential, however he has played 3 times for England U21 and he is same age as eddy, eddy has played double the games and scored 11 goals at u21 International level, so in my eyes he's easily valued at a much higher price.
I actually think we should accept nothing less than 40m, and I would try get eddy signed onto a new contract with that as a buy out figure, that way we know if he was sold it would be for the right price, a price we can't really knock back, then invest 6-9m on the next eddy and carry on the glasgow ajax model.

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{Ed007's Note - Transfers don't work like that and neither do buy out clauses. If Peter Lawwell met his opposite number from a potential suitor and started quoting other players prices he'd be laughed out the room and do untold damage to the Club's reputation in the transfer market.
Would you be happy if we paid £9 million for say Turnbull because of the prices of players in England? Why should Celtic play hardball but Motherwell shouldn't?}

04 Aug 2020 15:08:49
I think 50-60m is not a ridiculous estimate of the price clubs would be willing to pay for Odsonne. The reaction from sevco fans would be utterly priceless though.

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04 Aug 2020 16:10:16
Why shouldn't Motherwell? Unfortunately our teams can't afford to turn down big money like the whores in England can.

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04 Aug 2020 19:24:49
But if we received 50m say for eddy we would be massively tight fisted not paying 9m on another player when we had just made 41m profit.

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04 Aug 2020 12:43:43
Ed
Do PSG have a 20% sell on clause for Eddie?

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{Ed007's Note - I thought it was 10%.}

04 Aug 2020 13:53:41
Cheers hope we don't sell this season.

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{Ed007's Note - I'll be really surprised if Edouard left during this window but after the Dembele (and even the Rodgers) debacle you can't say for certain until the Club or the player say something publicly.}

04 Aug 2020 15:48:00
I was confident he would stay for another year but if a crazy bid came in the board would accept it.

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04 Aug 2020 16:33:10
Pud if eddy wants to stay then he can't be sold.

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04 Aug 2020 19:22:51
Steph. you’re 100% correct plus a wee bit.

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04 Aug 2020 12:14:44
Just seen 90min have rehashed a Celtic link from 2 seasons ago. Apparently McCarthy is up for a switch to Celtic and Paddy McNair is the other option 😂😂😂. Boy that posted it is 2-3 seasons behind lol.

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04 Aug 2020 12:33:36
What about Finbogasson? About time we were linked with him again.

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04 Aug 2020 13:01:30
Or what about Fletcher.

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04 Aug 2020 13:33:01
McNair much more likely to go to ibrox i think.

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04 Aug 2020 13:49:57
Robbie Keane 😅😅.

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04 Aug 2020 14:11:05
Martin Ødegaard is in the frequent flyer transfer rumours.

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04 Aug 2020 15:12:20
Martin Ødegaard - loan deal Broony + 5 mil.

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04 Aug 2020 16:11:22
Wouldn't take ødegaard. Wee d! ck.

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04 Aug 2020 16:33:41
Sutton "If we sell Edouard the fans will burn down the atadium"😂. If they do and sign Fletcher what a pyro night that will be. 🔥🎆.

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