Celtic Banter Archive April 04 2019

04 Apr 2019 22:05:55
See the Feyenoord fans banned for pyro fired a flare into the ground 😂.

04 Apr 2019 22:24:44
My 8 year old daughter, who loves going to Sat afternoon games, told me after the Saltzburg game that she doesn’t want to go back to any European games because she didn’t like the noise. She was referring to the light display before the game. If she was in the stadium close to a firework going off, it’s quite possible she’d be scared to ever go back to a game. It’s completely unfair to subject other supporters or players, coaches etc. to the experience of a firework going off unexpectedly. I’m not mad on the fireworks used in the official club celebrations either but at least they’re controlled and supporters have the choice to leave if they want to avoid them.

04 Apr 2019 22:44:13
People possibly under the influence of alcohol in a crowded area with children letting off fire works is just beyond stupid. Absolutely no need for it. Is it going to take someone getting seriously hurt before its stops?

04 Apr 2019 23:18:07
Get a grip fireworks 🙈 coybig scared of bangs and noise? Did you take her to the huns game? Rather subject my kids to bangs and noise than bile. I love this site but today shows a huge gap between our own fans I love my club I travel 100s of miles each week to show my support I love pyro in the section I love seeing the green smoke cover us all the when it goes off I love jumping up and down like like I’m 12 again agree or disagree I’m not in a minority and I never want to shame the club I love but I ever will change the way I support it.

05 Apr 2019 01:12:31
Your kid scared of the dark too? Maybe we should ban 19:45 kick offs.

Remove the lightshow, maybe there is an epileptic fan.

Ban chants and songs as it may create too much noise for some

Ban goals because a sudden cheer may cause unexpected heart attacks.

Rebuild the stadium with lifts because stairs are dangerous, oh wait are lifts too?

Ban players shooting as the ball may hit a Spectator!

Ban shooting, studs and heading the ball as all 3 are more dangerous to players than a loud bang or smoke bomb.

05 Apr 2019 07:58:55
Celtic is a club open to all so we as supporters should be open to all too. I know if my little girl was at the game with me and was next to that flash bang and it scared her. The next flash bang would have been in the guy that threw it balls. I want my kids to goto the game and enjoy the game and atmosphere not be worried about if some arsehole is going to throw a flash bang. These guys are morons and deserve everything hey get. I hope celtic seek out this moron and ban him perm.

05 Apr 2019 08:10:02
@Tesla you are BANG out of order (pun intended) we are talking about an 8 year old girl scared of fireworks, my girls are a lot older and hate them as well.
Welshbhoy sorry I cannot disagree with you more in a packed stadium, with people crowded together, it is a disaster waiting to happen. Me? I would BAN all pyrotechnics from grounds and JAIL anybody bringing them in.

05 Apr 2019 08:31:06
Tesla369, imo that reply was beyond silly.
The man has raised a genuine concern and all you can do is mock.

05 Apr 2019 09:43:22
Ma wee dug is feart if fireworks do you think the government will ban guy Fawkes oh wait 😂😂.

05 Apr 2019 10:05:51
guys go to any accident emergency unit on bonfire night and see the poor people who have been blinded or burnt. i love the atmosphere we create but we can do it with out risking the club being banned not by the corrupt SFA but its governing body. we can't be having our stadium partially closed or even worse playing behind closed doors. so come on guys stop the UNNECESSARY pyrotechnics and find other ways of celebrating goals.

{Ed007's Note - And who's going to close our stadium or even part of it?}

05 Apr 2019 11:13:58
ed you are an intelligent person, do you think this behavior is going to be allowed to continue? i dont, and sooner or later the club will be punished for it. the green smoke bombs are not a problem but when things explode on the field of play like on Wednesday night then we do have a problem. and i for one can't condone it.

{Ed007's Note - Throwing things onto the pitch, pyro, coins or bottles is a totally different argument to having flares and smoke bombs in the stands. Why should the Club be punished for ONE idiot in the support, surely it's the police's job to deal with isolated incidents like that?
There's already laws in place to cover any and all misbehaviour at football so there's no need for nonsense like the OBFA as we have seen, Strict Liability or even the bastardised version of it that the SNP are trying to push through which is just a rehashed OBFA and is just as stupid.
There are laws in place to cover being drunk and disorderly at football matches so why do we need a new law that will see clubs punished for a single fan being arrested, even outside the ground?}

05 Apr 2019 11:29:41
Man talks about his kid being scared and you have a go? Shameful.

{Ed007's Note - It's really nothing to do with the debate though is it? It was Celtic's light show that scared COYBIG's daughter and that has nothing at all to do with the fans. The crowd singing YNWA before a Euro game is probably louder and a more sustained noise than a firecracker like at St Mirren.
It's like me saying my wee 6-year old nephew doesn't like the swarming crowds when leaving Celtic Park but if anyone set of a loud firecracker next to him he'd probably sh!t himself, is that relevant?}

05 Apr 2019 11:31:07
This argument all boils down to modern day. The snowflake generation is in full flow. Makes me laugh when I think back to when I was 8 and my dad used to take a couple of beer crates into the ground for me to stand on so I could see. Remember dodging Beer cans and bottles full of pish that were regularly thrown, , then there was the crushing walking out the ground, I was the same height as everyone's arses, no fun your face being pressed up against a blokes arse that's just consumed 8 cans and a half bottle 😭. But we survived and we went back the next week. A couple of bangers would of been the least of my worries back then 😁.

05 Apr 2019 11:32:39
Am no a panty wetter but that thing the other night would have woken the dead and al say it again what if some old bhoy took a heart attack way the shock . they're a waste of time.

05 Apr 2019 12:11:31
Ed it could ed up affecting safety certificates.

{Ed007's Note - You could have been born a girl.}

05 Apr 2019 12:33:18
Honestly? It's no wonder the new generations are all stuck up wee rats.

Are you being serious about changing things at an event because of an 8 year old being scared of noise?

How overprotected are kids nowadays. Literally scared to take them outside in case their is noise hahaha

Keep them away from roads in case someone beeps a horn lol

The soft generation.

05 Apr 2019 12:36:59
What's to say the load bang could be interpreted by fans in a public confined space thinking it's a gun shot. There would be mass panic, fans could get crushed. Why is it worth the risk to fans safety. Everything has its risk but it's about lessening the risk. We've all seen video of drunk idiots with fire works, add in a 60000 crowd to that equation.

{Ed007's Note - A gunshot! Mass Panic! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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05 Apr 2019 14:24:54
Consider yourself lucky your daughter wasn't born into an illegal war like the Syrian kids or the kids in Palestine. Ah someone had to bring politics into it, this is getting mighty boring. All the moaning and batching on here will change nothing.

05 Apr 2019 15:16:33
Well Ed, I have sat there with the smoke wafting over and I do not believe it is correct. You did comment that the club is not responsible but you know that security in and around the ground comes under the Club's responsibilities.
I agree this is not a football problem it is a social/ police issue but as it stands, it's easier to hold the club responsible than deal with the real issue (cop-out pardon the pun)

05 Apr 2019 16:45:07
They should give a section for pyromaniacs only. Easy job done!

05 Apr 2019 16:56:04
When you're pissed or smoking a joint or whatever, you are doing it to yourself, when you are letting of smoke bombs or flares and forcing other people to breathe in the fumes that is the difference, what if research comes out saying that the fumes contain micro particles that are a health hazard, would that make a difference to the pyro junkies or would they carry on regardless? .

{Ed007's Note - Smoking is banned inside the stadium and you should Google passive smoking - without any ifs and buts about research second-hand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals, with around 70 of them KNOWN to cause cancer and further research would probably find more.Diseases related to smoking and alcohol abuse are a lot higher than people that have been injured by any flare or smoke bomb.
I wonder if anyone's went home sober and battered their wife because somebody let a flare off at the football?}

05 Apr 2019 19:47:42
Smoking is banned, so you don't have to passive smoke the tobacco fumes and the contained carcinogens, but you can fill your lungs with flare fumes and whatever chemicals that smoke contains, if your unlucky enough to be standing near enough.

{Ed007's Note - People still smoke in the stadium.... and the daft thing is they need to do it in enclosed spaces like the toilets instead of in the fresh air where the smoke will be more diluted.}

04 Apr 2019 17:43:12
When oh when are some of the Blind supposed to be Tim's realise ITS ONE RULE FOR THE PEOPLE and one rule for US and that fact should be drummed into everyone connected with the Club and to all the players, moaning will never ever get us anywhere and the only way to deal with the Blatant Bias against this
Great Club is to Keep STICKING THE BALL IN THE NET that bam Kent should have been jailed for assault.

04 Apr 2019 15:10:33
Surely that's madden sin died fae the lodge Noo.
He reported Gerrard as well.

04 Apr 2019 15:19:01
Whit was the thick fella reported for Kev?

04 Apr 2019 15:26:35
Something he said to the ref JFP.

04 Apr 2019 15:39:19
Impersonating a manager JFP!

05 Apr 2019 08:02:46
I think Madden is a decent ref. He is more honest than the usual suspects I don't mind him being at ref at our games.

04 Apr 2019 13:49:24
Ed you kev were discussing strict liability for clubs but am sure I read that nearly a million punters have been through our turnstiles and up until Sun we only had 12 arrests mainly for Bevvy. so you can see why we don't want it why should the majority be punished for a couple a halfwits.

04 Apr 2019 14:37:13
Mally the club are going to have to react for next season as tensions will only increase over next year and beyond. Looking purely at our club we've had at least 3 incidents of fans on trackside on Sunday, Murrayfield fans spilled on to trackside, Kilmarnock fans on trackside we've had coin throwing in Europe and at Killie and possibly on Sunday past. Pyro has been lit and thrown on pitches on numerous occasions this season. Other clubs have issues some bigger problems some less but if clubs are to avoid strict liability being forced on them then stricter rules and punishment must be considered by Celtic, it's starting to be common place leaving the stands to celebrate. It is certainly a minority problem but not a couple as you state sadly.

{Ed007's Note - Nobody can force Strict Liability on us, Jim. The clubs would need to agree with it and vote on it.

I provided a link to The Herald below, here's one from Nil By Mouth:

www.nilbymouth.org/2018/opinion-blog-beyond-the-obf-act/

"If we are serious about tackling this problem we need politicians, from all parties, to force the SFA and SPFL to introduce UEFA’s ‘Strict Liability’ guidelines into the Scottish game."

And STV: www.stv.tv/sport/football/1432464-strict-liability/

"Change in Scotland would, effectively, have to come from clubs. Both the Scottish FA and SPFL are organisations run by their members and the will of the members would be needed to change the rules."

I don't know where people get the idea that anyone can force Strict Liability on to the clubs, it just seems to be a couple of buzz words people are using without understanding the situation. The clubs voted 41-1 against it in 2013 and here is an article about a survey the BBC conducted last month where only 3 clubs were for it - Celtic didn't comment:

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47646210

04 Apr 2019 15:31:02
I appreciate it can’t be forced on clubs but incidents are becoming more common and pressure is likely to be applied. That’s why I think individual clubs need to act as something will need to be done as tensions and incidents are escalating as we near 9/ 10 in a row. Out of interest Ed do you have any thoughts on dealing with fan misdemeanours or are you for leaving things to go as they are? Personally I don’t have faith in spfl or sfa to be tackling this and that’s why I would prefer our club to tackle this head on ourself.

{Ed007's Note - I'd change the rules to let pyro into grounds - Celtic themselves let of fireworks etc when presenting trophies - and there's no problems in other leagues - so why not? Everything else is already covered by the law so there's never been any need for things like the OBFA etc. It's up to the police to enforce the laws that are already in place, if you enter the field of play you will be arrested and probably banned, if 30 guys enter the field of play why aren't there 30 arrests and bans?
Do fans really care if their club get fined the £9K which UEFA fined us for the guy that ran on at Mbappe? £9000, I certainly don't.
If there's 50,000 TRIFC fans singing The Famine Song or TBB, arrest 10 or 20 of them, the next week do the same and keep doing it until it stops. If there's any trouble then you bring in the riot police to do the job and they'll soon get the message.}

04 Apr 2019 17:47:42
No pyro no party 🎉 ed 😏.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

04 Apr 2019 17:51:03
There's a time and place for pitch invasions, when we stopped 10 and when we reach 10 would be completely understandable. To attack a player is persongery. Throwing coins and other missiles is bang out of order and they should get a lifetime ban if caught.

04 Apr 2019 20:28:20
I just don't get this need for pyros, this craving to see the air polluted with more chemicals, this need, this want, this lust to light something, this madness, . Or am I the one that's wrong?, Ed maybe you could have a poll on it, just to see how many support, or are against pyros, the question:
Do you think pyros should be part of the match day experience?

{Ed007's Note - We'd need to be clearer, does this count as "part of the match day experience", our own Club polluting the air with chemicals etc or is it only fans you don't want to use them?

04 Apr 2019 20:53:43
That skelator pyro display is my favourite
Looks awesome
Don’t hurl them On the pitch but.

{Ed007's Note - I agree with that, throwing anything on the park isn't on.}

04 Apr 2019 22:15:22
Well, I don't know, put the question, "should pyros only be organised by the club and no one else", yes or no, answer to the poll.

{Ed007's Note - I'll get on it tomorrow morning when I'm at my computer 👍

04 Apr 2019 22:24:26
The over the top policing is antagonising fans and maximising their worse behaviour . Fans and stewards should co- operate to ensure everyone has a safe and enjoyable experience at football matches .
Cops insist on large scale policing in order to get massive overtime each month.
The more police you put in an enclosed area the more likely fans will missbehave . It doesn't take a big strong or brave lout to throw something on to pitch and no matter what is thrown someone somewhere will be badly hurt . Co- operation between fans and stewards would mean no idiot would get away with it .

05 Apr 2019 01:19:43
Polluting the air lol. Jesus Christ I've heard it all.

I take it you walk to all the games and to your work so you don't pollute the air?

You do realise depending how smoke bombs are made that they can be non toxic etc?

Less harmful than you breathing out CO2?

It shows when people come out with the most ridiculous excuses that they can barely find a legit reason why they detest pyro so much.

Most aren't dangerous. Same mob that call our rebel songs sectarian when they aren't. Just following a media narrative.

04 Apr 2019 12:08:54
I know this will not go down well with a sizable minority on here but it is time to weed out these clowns who bring smokebombs and other pyrotechnics to the game. Grounds like St Mirrens which is small and very close to the pitch is NO PLACE to throw these things, everyone is packed together with no room to get away.
Sadly, the Green Brigade seem to be a law unto themselves and refuse to acknowlege the potential danger they cause by their use of these devices ( I realise last night may not have been the actions of any GB member) but their general attitude is poor.
I want EVERYONE searched going into a match either by police, stewards, sniffer dogs etc and anyone found carrying them charged and hopefully jailed and banned from all grounds.
These pyrotechnics hurt everyone and damage our great fans reputation also.

{Ed007's Note - I want everyone entering the stadium breathalysed and if they are over the legal limit for driving then they shouldn't be allowed to enter the stadium.}

04 Apr 2019 12:39:13
Love the way people on here blame the green brigade for everything they don’t like yet look to them when they’re not happy with the club.
I know you acknowledge it may not be a member but your quick to bring them into it. (Waiting for broony to get the blame 👀)
You do know the green brigade aren’t the only group in attendance at matches?
Don’t get me wrong I’m not condoning throwing on to the pitch but some of the reactions is a bit ott.

04 Apr 2019 12:39:44
Meant to add can’t do that ed I’ll never get in again 😂.

04 Apr 2019 12:47:43
Ed what is the exact law on that because Celtic serve alcohol in the ground before games.
As far as I can see you can't drink alcohol with in view of the pitch or bring any in?

{Ed007's Note - The old one rule for them and one rule for the plebs mate. They seem to think that the richer you are the more capable you are of handling your drink.}

04 Apr 2019 13:05:18
I remember going to the Ron Yeats testimonial at Anfield in the 70's and there were two police lines to pass through, where items were confiscated and every fan was searched and it was very degrading as the polis were obviously fired-up for our arrival.
I even had my asthma inhaler taken off me an thrown in a large bin.
I would hope we never see this sort of practice carried out on every man, woman and child entering a ground; however, these incidents are on the increase and it reflects badly on us and the club. So as I keep repeating - what are the army of stewards/ police watching when these things happen and was there not talk of cctv of sorts focussed on fans?

04 Apr 2019 13:15:40
Though I think the GB have their problematic element in them, they seem to get tarred because there is people who are not members that gravitate to them and cause things like last night.
The GB though use flares and that stuff usually do it under an organised display. ( Though I still don't agree with it)

04 Apr 2019 14:40:57
Put up portable horizontal nets or some other kind of barrier, as the have in the Bundasliga. If some moron wants to throw a flare or other pyrotechnic then it won't land on the park but amongst their own supporters. It wouldn't take long for decent supporters to weed out these rancid **** bags. Would also stop them jumping onto the field of play to celebrate.

{Ed007's Note - Have you seen the pyro in the Bundesliga?

04 Apr 2019 14:49:21
Kev have you been into the kerrydale for a pint before a game it's extortionate £4.20 a pint no chance of pooor people like me getting too drunk in there 😂😂.

04 Apr 2019 15:25:38
“In 2018, football supporters in Scotland secured a historic victory as the reprehensible Offensive Behaviour at Football Act was finally repealed, following a hard-fought campaign which had lasted over seven years. This represented a significant blow to the establishment, as the Scottish Government, the Police Service of Scotland and our entire judicial system struggled to accept that they had been so comprehensively beaten by a section of society whom they had spent years demonising and criminalising; ordinary football fans.

They were not however likely to accept this result meekly and have since sought to build support for yet another assault on the rights of football supporters. Over the last few months, these figures have cynically sought to feed a sense of moral panic around football, casting fans as villains for their own gain. The mainstream media have fuelled this fire with sensationalist headlines, disproportionate coverage and click-bait journalism. With this in mind, it is imperative that the victory against the OBFA does not become hollow and it is clear that all fans share the responsibility to counter any attempts to replace it - which includes being responsible for your own actions and behaviour.

Whilst there must be a sense of perspective regarding the recent media furore, fans must also realise the potential damage that they are inflicting on themselves and other fans by feeding this frenzy. As an ultras group we support the safe, sensible use of pyrotechnics, however the launching of pyrotechnics on to the park or in the direction of people is both unnecessary and counterproductive to any aspirations of normalising its use.

Similarly, small-scale pitch invasions - whilst largely harmless - are simply giving our detractors further ammunition at this time. We take particular exception to anyone who uses our name, banner or numbers as cover to indulge in behaviour which will ultimately cause our group and the Celtic support harm. We have made various attempts to engage with fans around us and will continue to do so in order to make them aware of the potential ramifications of their behaviour. We have also engaged with the club in attempts to counter other contributory factors such as mass migration to, and overcrowding of, our area at Celtic Park.

It should be noted that there is a direct correlation between the treatment of football fans and the conduct of football fans. The OBFA caused a severe breakdown in trust between fans and police and it is frustrating that it appears as though lessons have not been learned by those in positions of authority. So long as football fans are being continually harassed, intimidated and criminalised by the police, and demonised by the media, genuine fan engagement is made impossible and trust will remain non-existent. In order for there to be a de-escalation, fans must be treated like human beings.

From our own perspective, the ultras scene is overwhelmingly positive and should be encouraged, not eradicated. Scottish football is not blessed in many areas but where it does thrive is with the number of fans who continually attend games, keeping clubs afloat and doing so despite ridiculous pricing, ill treatment and often a poor product on the park. At most clubs in Scotland you have active fan groups committed to injecting much needed life into the stands: it is of no surprise that the majority of young fans attending matches are doing so with this priority. It is unhealthy for these fans to be marginalised and instead a sensible, mature approach is required.

GreenBrigade”

Good statement imo.

04 Apr 2019 18:16:39
Was waiting on somebody casting up about green brigade.

Seems to be a culture with a few on this, they have to seek guidance from the bible of green brigade policies and procedures.

Was not so long ago they were being highlighted for their behaviour at games, so I for one take everything they say and do with a pinch of salt.

04 Apr 2019 22:31:27
Anyone with the attitude of £4.20'a pint too exorbitant is very unlikely ever to throw anything on the pitch. If he did he would probably try to get on to pitch to retrieve.

04 Apr 2019 11:08:37
Brown faces a hearing over "not acting in the best interest of Scottish football". the SFA must be making these charges up as they go along.

04 Apr 2019 11:28:18
I jokingly said last night they would try and make 'Sectarian Smiling' an offence and it looks like they are getting close ha ha.

04 Apr 2019 08:20:34
A lot said about Burke last night but have fair bit of sympathy for him. He's not a centre forward and is pretty much neutralised against teams playing the way St Mirren did last night (at points it looked like they had their bench on behind the ball as well as the 10!) Also don't see point of playing Weah if he's going back in May. Would hope LG gets back and runs out before cup games. Izzy last night too! Talk about seen better days and done better things!

04 Apr 2019 09:41:00
A large source of our frustration lies with the fact we have had no penalty-box striker (or aerial presence) virtually all season and have had adapt with players out of their best position.
Bayo and Griff's fitness problems along with the other amount of long term injuries we have had, have really hampered our style and choice. With this in mind - and when you add the sudden change of manager - it has got to be one of our best achievements ever if we do 3 x 3.

04 Apr 2019 11:01:42
I’ll be honest lads and I know the lad ain’t a striker. but for the life of me I will never understand how Burke has went for 15 million not once but twice! Lot of hype surrounding this lad for years but I do not see it! Pace to burn and powerful but when he’s actually got the ball not a lot happens! If your talking about over 10 million for this guy in the summer then imo it’s a resounding no! I’m sure some will disagree, but for me I don’t think we’ll miss him when he goes back down the road.

04 Apr 2019 11:49:15
Totally agree with you, il be gutted if we splash the cash on him!

04 Apr 2019 12:20:13
Is it true we are interested in the big Hearts centre forward?,