Celtic Banter Archive February 03 2016

03 Feb 2016 23:03:52
Another spineless display tonight at Pittodrie by the Hoops.
Agree with Andy Walker's summary. RD should be gone in the morning. Performances are totally unacceptable.
Crowds have been down by about 20,000 says a post. Well, if it doesn't change, there will a further reduction of another 20,000 fans.
We're actually getting worse and it s difficult to see any improvement in the team.
The manager might claim to be happy, but there's an awful lot of fans who are not happy .
This is a results business and failure, at this level, is not an option.

04 Feb 2016 00:27:04
So if we win the league and cup he should stay? As its a results business.

03 Feb 2016 22:50:10
Who among us really no what's going on inside Celtic park. But here's what we do know. A squad full of players that would almost all walk into every team in the league, comfortably!
Hers the bit we don't know bit suspect
No fight, desire, heart! Players who look look like they don't want to be there. Bitton, johannson, Players that simply are not good enough to where the hoops, gms, forest, ambrose, boyata (could be a long list) players who used to be good but ship has sailed lustig, gordon maybe even brown. And now the bit we all know a clueless manager and embaressing back room staff. Sure he hasn't had the money oneil got or Lennon but pro rata neither has mcinnes, or mcintyre. Simply a nice guy who we all wanted to succeed but time to go. I don't know who should be next but surely that doesn't mean that we stick with what we have got? Obviously as a fan wanted the treble but this guy doesn't deserve to be named in the same sentence as stein and oneil. Rant over, sorry folks, just really hurting a fan with more heart and desire than I saw from anyone (excuse tierney and the new centre half) than any other person wearing green at trackside or on the pitch!

04 Feb 2016 00:07:36
We know what is going on on Celtic park and Hampden and anywhere else we play. An incompetent manager sets out a fanciful system with players who have no fight or heart and throw the towel in whenever we go behind. Then they all go to lennoxtown and convince themselves that they are fantastic, getting better all the time and only a small step away from, greatness. this is the football equivalent of a ponsi scam with the promise of untold success tomorrow to hide unmitigated disaster today.

04 Feb 2016 00:24:46
Well said I agree he hasn't had the money of previous managers but has a squad on 10 times the wages of anything else in Scotland except maybe the sevconians (no idea what they're getting these days considering they were giving Kevin Kyle , Slugger McCulloch and Ian Black £7000 p/w in Scotlands 4th tier) He should be able to put an organised team on the park that should stroll 90% of the games we're faced with in Scotland. The worrying thing for me is in the must win games we lose

03 Feb 2016 22:48:46
Ronnys has to go how many times must we put up with this I have been a season ticket holder for the last 22 year and am sick of this I will never give up my st for my love of my club but this is pushing me and many others the to limit .

03 Feb 2016 22:40:49
Ronnie, If we are improving then we must have been truly garbage because we are currently abysmal.
Not sure what parts of the team has improved and I would love that explained. (anyone? )
I'm struggling to see anything positive from tonight compared to Sunday.

03 Feb 2016 22:50:52
We were better than Sunday because we only conceded 2 tonight and 3 on Sunday so perhaps only 1 against EK!

03 Feb 2016 22:57:29
Totally agree Tim.
Were is all the "in Ronnie we trust" brigade.
BTW ed great job on the live chat, really enjoyed it inspite of the result.

{Ed007's Note - Cheers buddy.}

03 Feb 2016 23:12:31
First time posting on the page. Iv backed Ronnie from day one hoping things would get better but surely that should be it for him now. My woman's father is a rangers fan and was saying he hopes they get promoted and Ronnie is still in charge next season 😒.

03 Feb 2016 23:34:36
I think that it has been a bit unfortunate for Ronnie that Simunovic has been injured again, think him and the Danish boy might solve the centre half pairing, but could not Lustiq have played centre half tonight, Ambrose, could have played right back as he did in the world cup, Brown is not fully fit after his injury, I would have brought him on as a second have sub, my starting four in midfield would have been Christie, Allan, Armstrong, McGregor, with Griffiths and KM, up front.

04 Feb 2016 00:41:00
Three first time posts pickle- two of which mention rangers fans in your circle, the other asking Ed about Rd being sacked. Interesting.

03 Feb 2016 22:31:12
Big Sutton rant after Europa league exit was spot on. Recruitment has been a absolute
Shambles. Counted 13 players gon for the 3 attackin places behind the striker but we only have one striker who can score. We into the semifinal w only 2 fit centre halfs and efe ambrose going for the 2places. Add
That to a strugglin manager useless assistants and gutless players we r in a poor shape bhoys.

03 Feb 2016 22:22:30
Scunnered! Even when we win the league and IF we win Scottish cup the achievement is zero. We should be miles ahead of the rest and doing this with a bit of style. 4 players that started tonight are nowhere near Celtic class and we all know who they are and who signed them.

03 Feb 2016 22:44:02
Agree 100%, we are going backwards, at home and abroad. Shambles in europe, and now this at home, unacceptable. We will still win the league but that is not the issue. Get rid, he has had ample time to improve the team, but it ain't happening. The football this season has, in the main, been pretty poor. It needs freshened up, not sure who to go for, but plenty of time to get someone lined up.

03 Feb 2016 22:35:12
GMS is one but on tonight's performance I can't think who the other 3 are that your referring. Maybe Armstrong too but for me the worst players were brown bitton lustig tierney and GMS 4 of that 5 weren't signed by RD or since RDs tenure.

04 Feb 2016 07:23:31
Tierney? I thought he was the only one who got pass marks.

03 Feb 2016 22:14:43
is it just me or does anyone else feel that as fans we are just expected to accept these performances and results now? It's always how good the performance was how we can see positives and move onto the next game but I struggle to see any positives even in performance these days. It's starting to show now how the penny pinching and lack of care for us the fans is coming from upstairs . Really at the moment what are we getting in return because for me at the very least we aren't even getting the performances.

03 Feb 2016 21:51:36
This is now genuinely worrying me. We are a team shipping goals at the back and totally incapable of scoring at the front. Add to this an ineffective midfield and we have a perfect storm of mediocre, embarrassing and very, very frustrating football to watch. We will still be 3 points ahead tonight and have a superior goal difference but we were shown up once again from a team with a bit of fight. As with County on Sunday, we were outdone with attacks on our lacklustre defence and lack of fire power. So disappointed with the team tonight, I honestly thought they would be up for this.
We will win the league simply because Aberdeen will fail to gain enough points as they will lose to other teams. Is this the way our far superior budget should be winning a league? Not for me, we should be walking this!

03 Feb 2016 21:58:07
Big Rab Aberdeen haven't lost for 11 games if we are relying on them dropping points it is a sorry state.

RD keeps talking about small details, the small details are simple,

Were can't defend

we can't score

We are powder puff in midfield


RD should be sacked tomorrow.

03 Feb 2016 22:05:43
Big Rab we should have been 12-15 points ahead before we went into this game. Fed up hearing from Ronnie we are improving. No we are not. Even tonight he says "We will get better". For goodness sake, we can't get any worse! I still think we will win the league but it could be by 6-9 points when it should be 20 points. Can't see any chance of CL qualification and if the Board think we are not going to make CL then they need to make a change now.

03 Feb 2016 22:28:24
Last season we rallied at the turn of the year and put in a great run, Aberdeen - who had less games - kept in touch with a very consistent league run, but we wore them down with games to spare.
Last season we had VVD and Denayer solid at the back and Stokes with Griffiths and Commons all mucking in up front.
This season we have lost goals-a-plenty, trying to discover our best defensive formation for weeks on end - until we realised we don't have one at all.
The run of form at the turn of the year looked on - with an 8-1 win along the way, but all of a sudden we have been well beaten in our last two matches and seem to have lost the place altogether.
The defending is shambolic and the goals are drying up.
Griffiths cannot do it all on his own, but who else will step up?
Kasim Richards, Cole, or the wee boy from City? Help ma Boab!
Armstrong, GMS, Johansen, Bitton, Lustig and Gordon have all had very poor seasons, while each centre back pairing we try looks fragile and then there's the usual suspects like Forrest bring nothing to the side in any shape or form and Commons seems to have deserted the sinking ship.
It is very fortunate we are playing EK next weekend as at the moment I don't fancy us to keep a clean sheet or beat most SPL teams the way we are going and the heads are dropping.
We have still two trophies to play for, but there needs to be a lot of tough talking, heart searching and testicles booted.

03 Feb 2016 22:47:13
Absolutely, we are not improving, we are regressing. Compare now to when Lenny was there. Champions league etc etc. We can't even make an impact on Uefa cup never mind CL. As for the league , the team seem disinterested, as if he has lost the dressing room, time for change, he has had ample time and we are going backwards, not forwards

03 Feb 2016 23:08:37
Well said JJ! I just don't know. Sack the board? Sack the team? Sack Ronnie?

I think there's some great squad players at CP right now: Lustig, Emilio, Tierney, Armstrong (if played in position) , GMS in a few years. Withith Broonny back in the mix and Grithiths doin' the sh! t, we just need 3 or four solid European-class
players.

03 Feb 2016 21:46:57
To the fans of RD, is this not enough. will you keep defending this man. Will you not just accept that this man himself is a laughing stock as a manager. He is dragging the club both you and i love into the depths of the gutter. Its past the point of no return surely.

03 Feb 2016 21:56:57
even i'm swaying. i still don't think things are as black and white as made out but i can't take much more of this. i said i'd give rd the rest of the season so i'll give him it.

{Ed007's Note - The players let us and themselves down again, we've too many players in there without the ability or the passion/swagger to play for CFC. There's a mile of difference being a player for Dundee Utd and Hibs to playing for CFC.}

03 Feb 2016 22:11:06
i don't mind players having off days but there's just no fight. that's one thing i demand of a cfc player. there's just not been enough progression this year. i can't even try deny that.

03 Feb 2016 22:13:14
Ed come on aberdeens players are no better than ours it's the coaching/ management that's to blame for that shitty performance tonight. Enough is enough. Ronny inspires zero confidence. Get him out now.

03 Feb 2016 22:16:18
Got to agree with ed, I think the two utd lads are struggling with the pressure. They are not alone even bitton and johansen in previous games have looked like they just don't have any fight in them.

03 Feb 2016 22:19:59
Don't know Ed, Browns done quite well since he came from Hibs, and if Armstrong was played in a more central position, and if Allan was given more game time, maybe you'll begin to understand it does'nt matter where you come from if you're good enough, think the problem is with RD's tactics, and selection,

{Ed007's Note - It was 10 years ago Brown came in though. Scott Allan has played one good season in the Scottish second division and people see him as some kind of messiah. I didn't realise so many CFC fans watched Hibs games because I had hardly seen him kick a ball before we signed him, I don't watch lower league football since Accies have been in the top flight.
I think you'll find where you come from has a lot to do with it, a player can look top quality against poorer opposition every week, like in the Scottish second division, are you saying Scott Allan would be in any EPL or English Championship team?}

03 Feb 2016 22:21:45
To the disagree button terrorists, don't just hit a button. Come on here and explain why you disagree. I know one reason, simply who the poster is. Trolls, sad sad trolls.

03 Feb 2016 22:29:26
There's no doubt Ed the players let themselves and the fans down but how often has that been the case under this leadership? We must have one of the biggest squads in British football granted half of them at least shouldn't be there but they are. Now the biggest thing for me is that we are constantly reminded by our manager this is a progressive team and they're getting better. I think we've seen more than enough evidence over the last season or 2 that this isn't the case. Surely the time has come for dermot Desmond and the top men behind the scenes at parkhead to look at this, it just isn't working the way a club like Celtic should, and if that means looking at the whole structure of what's going on at Celtic from top to bottom then so be it. From the scouting system, to transfer budget, to manager, assistant manager etc, even lawells position should be looked at. If he thinks that what's happening at Celtic right now is all good and is the way forward then the mans seriously lost it.

03 Feb 2016 22:30:05
A team reflects the manager. We are like Ronnie. Too nice, no grit, no passion. We don't fight for the ball, don't tackle, no passion. Can you imagen an Alex Ferguson team playing with that attitude? You need to be willing to battle and apart from brown I don't see anyone willing to battle. We go a goal down we don't come back. Have said it many many times. Ronnie has to go!

03 Feb 2016 22:33:44
The calibre and standard of player at the club is down to the people or person who bought them and assumed they were good enough.
If that is the sole responsibility of RD then he is clearly underestimating the club, the expectation and reality of Celtic.
There are too many guys who are trying their best, but their best is nowhere near good enough and then there;s the others who are not giving 100% - or are seriously under performing like Lustig, Gordon, Commons [when selected], Forrest, Johansen and Bitton, who are cheating the manager, the team and supporters, It is a shambles.

03 Feb 2016 22:40:00
I agree with the Allan comments, I saw him a couple of times for hibs, and he was the same as he is now. Tries passes that never come off and rarely scores. he might be OK at 5 a sides.

03 Feb 2016 22:48:09
I take the point on board re taking players from Hibs, Dundee Ut etc but a point i made in an earlier post was Aberdeens new boys were reserve team players from Rotherham and MK Dons. Ross County players were all free transfers, loans from lower leagues in England or bought for a nominal value so how come they can perform with a proffessionalism and attitude ours cannot? That's were the manager and coaching team come in and quite clearly ours are not up to it.

03 Feb 2016 23:21:22
Give Allan a decent run in the team and then we will see who opinion is right and wrong.

{Ed007's Note - I've not got an opinion on him. Is there any players in the Championship this season that you think would help take us where we want to be, competing in Europe and dominating domestically?

04 Feb 2016 00:19:42
Give him a run in the team and find out, one way or the other, can't do any worse than some of the incumbents.

{Ed007's Note - You're just repeating yourself now. Is there any other players that have caught your eye in the lower leagues of Scotland that could do better than some of the incumbents? I don't watch lower league football since Accies were promoted so is there any players I should keep an eye out for as potential CFC players, Queen of the South are doing well, is there GK any good?}

03 Feb 2016 21:46:02
Honestly where do we go from here. We haven't just been beaten in our last two games more alarmingly we've been massively outplayed. The managers tactics and formation is undoubtedly questionable, the players application and attitude is shocking and the quality just isn't there. We can also go with the fact we aren't buying the quality we used to but Aberdeens January signings were Rotherhams reserve goalie and mk dons reserve striker!

That game actually reminded me of Mowbrays last game in charge v St Mirren there almost seemed to be a clear message of no support for the manager from the players and a sense of inevitability. Won't be surprised (or upset) if changes are afoot.

03 Feb 2016 21:41:52
I really don't know how much longer i can defend this team for. i really want rd to do well and his philosophy to work but that was a dire performance by a lightweight team with no fight. sicks not the word.

{Ed007's Note - For me, that was the worst performance under RD.}

03 Feb 2016 21:49:01
it was shocking ed. you know i'm a big advocate for the big picture but that was dire. i've never seen as little fight in a celtic team.

{Ed007's Note - There's nothing positive I can say about it.}

03 Feb 2016 21:50:41
Take a bow hans hilhuase spot on mate, and reluctantly andy walker.

03 Feb 2016 22:00:58
I don't know what his philosophy is. In the first half Armstrong Mcgregor and GMS played as if they were in a passing square at lennoxtown, the whole approach is about the next pass, no penetration no power no threat. A weak and pathetic performance.

03 Feb 2016 22:22:25
Andy Walker summed it right up tonight but it won't happen RD will be there till the end of season cause let's face it who would want the job this long in the season. And a board that will not spend the money to get a decent manager in who wants to take Celtic to the next level gid help us on Sunday if we go a goal down.

04 Feb 2016 09:29:06
there's been so many woeful performances I've lost count! It's time for a change now!! We're lacking leadership lacking quality and lacking any sort of direction! A total shambles! All over the place! And how GMS stayed on that park is beyond me!

03 Feb 2016 21:34:32
1 word. PATHETIC!

RD OUT

chris1888.

03 Feb 2016 21:31:16
Get this fool out another big game another loss rd has been found out just as his tactics have teams know how to play Ronny s lot.

03 Feb 2016 21:40:17
Paddy, spot on, you have called it right.

03 Feb 2016 21:57:15
Time for change. Ronny and his backroom staff out. A know he didn't pick them but he agreed to have them. Bunch of spineless weak sods. Can't forgive such a pathetic display. Pack your bags and **** off.

03 Feb 2016 22:02:47
Av had enough. Why should we spend our money paying for this gutless excuse for a squad. Won't be back until a strong manager is in place. He looked scared before the game. What ****in chance did we have when the manager was shitin himself before a ball was kicked. AAAAGGHHH.

03 Feb 2016
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03 Feb 2016 18:31:59
Thanks Ed:
I know its early but don`t know if I will get the chance to be online or see the game at all tonight.

Forever the optimist

Celtic to win 3 nil.

Good Luck to the Bhoys
HH.

03 Feb 2016 16:20:40
I sincerely hope this is our team going forward.
Gordon, Lustig Tierney Jozo Erik
Brown Biton Kazim Roberts Commons/ Rogic Griffiths.
My reasoning for this if the new guys are in the team then they must be better than what we have so we can only get better. Heres hoping.

03 Feb 2016 16:30:32
Jozo out for a fair bit, hopefully not sign of things to come. Wold put Cole in ahead of Ambrose and I'm not 100% sure that I'm joking!

03 Feb 2016 17:34:53
I sincerely hope we have our eyes on a better keeper than Craig Gordon going forward. How much longer is that clown going to be our number 1? No where near the quality required to be a Celtic keeper. I was all up for giving him a chance when he signed as he was a very promising keeper back in the days and it was worth a punt but he has been rubbish since day one and is a big part of our problems, in my opinion. He has no confidence and no-one has any in him. We really need a better class of keeper. Perhaps we already have one at the club?

03 Feb 2016 18:09:57
I wonder are many other clubs blessed with such expertise amongst their forum posters as Celtic are . We have numerous who have no doubt that they know better than RD and post often about how right they are and how wrong R D is.
If &when R D finally leaves I have no doubt that P L will turn to Celtic fan forums to appoint replacement .

03 Feb 2016 18:26:29
Old bhoy this is a Fans forum to discuss opinions no matter how shite or otherwise . maybe if he did visit these forums we would have not signed 20 strikers in the past 5 year and still need one if we've signed another donkey in ckr .

03 Feb 2016 18:36:26
I think its a certainty oldbhoy PL will be on here seeking your advice. lol.

03 Feb 2016 19:04:12
No matter who plays in defence we always look rocky and vulnerable and a share of the blame has to go to Gordon.
As a last resort he is a weak link and very poor with deep crosses and guarding his near post and still we won't replace him as RD obviously has no confidence in Bailly with our shaky defence.
Whatever happens tonight, I reckon we will have to score two or three to get a result.

03 Feb 2016 19:19:23
If and when RD finally leaves hopefully PL will join him.

03 Feb 2016 19:48:49
Rayman please be careful about what you post. A joke is a joke but sometimes you need to wind your kneck in! Don't you know that Old Bhoy is PL's love child? Either that or he is Ronnies PR manager!

03 Feb 2016 12:01:26
ed who's the young guys in the reserves or development teams playin at centre half's?
think ones big o'connell?
reason being they must be fkn sick seeing they two on sun and still can't get a game?
if young tierneys so good then why not try one of the defenders?
hows the diabetes a know its crap mate as ma wifes got it tae nae fun!
mind you she never wiz afore it come tae think ae that lmfao.

{Ed007's Note - My mate's nephew, young CB Jack Breslin went out on loan to Annan Athletic on Monday. Our first choice CB pairing will be Simunovic and Sviatchenko with Boyata/Ambrose as back up, come the summer I expect ambrose to be moved on and O'Connell to step up to first team squad.
The diabetes is brutal wee man, thanks for asking. I just can't get out the bit with it at all and I'm fed up moaning about feelink like $hit 24/7.}

03 Feb 2016 14:13:27
I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling great ED, I know that it can be a difficult condition to cope with, I hope things take a turn for the better for you soon.
Hopefully a win tonight will give you and the rest of us a bit of a lift.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate. A wee win tonight to go 9 points clear would certainly cheer me up, Gerry (party)

03 Feb 2016 14:51:35
Fiacre kellahar.

03 Feb 2016 15:07:09
Did you read the book or see the you tube video by the boutenkos. . raw food family. I was td a works medical I was pre diabetic . seen the video gave it a go went back to doctor after 2 month all blood sugar figures back to normal blood pressure down cholesterol down. don't khow how it would work with full blown diabetes but anythings worth a go if your feeling constantly shit.

{Ed007's Note - I'll check that out, DRB, thanks very much.}

03 Feb 2016 16:28:22
You are right DRB kellahar for me is the next one to talk about and rave to the ones who don't take much to do with dev squad (y)

Fasan, Nesbitt, McMullan all have a chance too imo

Hope you pick up a bit Ed too (y)

03 Feb 2016 08:43:02
See this Patrick Roberts loan deal, does anyone know if he can be recalled? With Pep coming in he might try to get him back to have a look at all his options.

03 Feb 2016 11:21:58
It depends if we paid a loan fee. If we have he can't be recalled but if we haven't then he can be.

03 Feb 2016 11:55:09
Cheers. It would be typical of us that he'll be quality and Celtic will have failed to make sure he can't leave at the end of the season.