Celtic Banter Archive July 31 2014

 

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31 Jul 2014 22:31:56
Ed, don't know if you're a betting man or not but I saw last night you still reckon we'll qualify. Read in the paper McBookies are offering 7/1. Worth a wee score surely. I'll be on it anyway. Keep the faith!

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not really much of a gambler, Kev but I might stick a few sheckles on that just to put my money where my mouth is.}

Safer and better at 15/2 for the Legia win!

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31 Jul 2014 22:06:27
No ed. I don't think we can and there was nothing from last night to suggest otherwise.

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01 Aug 2014 09:53:52
If they were widely thought of as an average outfit, where exactly does that leave us? The biggest issue we face as a club, board and fans alike is that if we fail to recognise we have a serious problem, we will never seek a solution. We need to stop living off past glories and start creating future ones because right now we have dropped below mediocrity and are heading for complete insignificance on the European level. Even if we survive this one, without massive changes, another spanking WILL be waiting not far ahead.

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31 Jul 2014 21:36:13
I am seriously concerned about the errors I witnessed last night. Repeatedly Celtic made basic errors and the manager seemed unable to communicate with the players. Both full backs ahead of the ball at the same time, mulgrew and johnassen emptying the middle of the park constantly, players playing sideways passes into a crowded midfield time and time again, matthews @ left back with debutant ahead of him at left wing?, a center forward who can't hold the ball up?. the list goes on and on. Delia seemed to have no idea how do addresses the weeknesses in the side. If celtic are beaten next week with another inept performance it will be very difficult for Ronny to convince the fans he is the right man for the job.

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Most of the errors were beyond fixing during the game . A midfield containing quite a good holding midfielder with no ability to play up and down the pitch and only one other was asking for trouble from the start . No player capable or in position to help player under pressure for example full backs left too much for Deila to do as game continued in front of him .

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31 Jul 2014 21:04:21
Do you think the Celtic board will come out and say sorry for getting it all wrong for not getting in players before the CL qualifiers? or do you think that THE board are above all that?

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As well as the board saying sorry, I think the manager and players should also apologise .
However what good will the apologies do?

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31 Jul 2014 18:35:38
Whats your view Ed on them now allowing the game next week to be televised? for extra income? That is EXACTLY what they did with the Brataslavia game when they thought the tie was beyond us?

A also hear in the interests of "fifa fair play" given we have given up parkhead for CG that PL is to write to UEFA and ask that all goals scored next week count as double as it be an away tie!

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{Ed007's Note - It's jeopardising the size of the crowd, it's bad enough the game's in Edinburgh and not covered by your season ticket but putting it on TV will make a dent in the crowd.}

Cashing in again. After that performance the message from the board ist hat we will probably not progress in the CL. the game is in Edinburgh (in midweek) so reduced fans anyway and after that result even less. Best to grab what cash they can. Sad.

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31 Jul 2014 13:51:15
Sorry Ed, still sore from last night!

Any chance of this poll please had celtic lost 6-1 or more last night would have he survived?

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{Ed007's Note - No probs, Jamie, just click here to vote.}

Much obliged as ever Ed!, Could be a real interesting one mate . this either way should get plenty votes via the fall out, atvb JB7

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31 Jul 2014 19:58:17
Watching Finnbogason playing against Aberdeen still sticks in the throat that 1 looks really good twenty mins in and wearing no 7 too!

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Finngobason Was ok, don't think £5m player, but Aberdeen look as if they could Challenge us if we don't get our act together quickly.

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31 Jul 2014 19:24:37
Interesting seeing NL talking about the lack of investment lately whilst talking about leaving the club and the Legia defeat. I knew that was one of, if not the main reason for him quitting.

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31 Jul 2014 20:37:57
Why did he come out 6 months ago and say we could spend 6m on 1 player if we needed to?

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31 Jul 2014 22:28:02
The puppet master made him say it.

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Either it hadn't been cleared by Dermot Desmond or else Desmond changed his mind .

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31 Jul 2014 19:09:19
Why do Celtic never have cover for the Left-Back Position when there is a glut of players to cover the others.
I have puzzled over this for many, many years .
Out of the current crop e.g. Twardzik(nowhere near Celtic Class in any position), Mulgrew(Ditto), Any Youth Player(Not up to playing in our League yet and certainly not C.L. / Europa L. standard. )
Some Seasons we have had as many as 4 or 5 players as Cover for Right Back and only 1 Left Back Player .
Izzy has most often been a hero in this position currently and there is no-one who can cover adequately for him . Why Not?

The Sno Man

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And to think sno man we gave away 3 million Hull player Andrew Robertson for being . too wee!

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And to think izzy didn't start last night & only came on late in the game

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01 Aug 2014 17:40:36
I forgot to add that Mathews is way better off at Right Back Position , he's like a fish out of water as Izzy's replacement .

The Sno Man

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31 Jul 2014 18:55:55
Seen on a fb celtic page supposedly stokes being linked with a move down south after a fall out with management

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Good!

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31 Jul 2014 18:12:28
Let's just say for arguments sake Ronny Delia is one of Europe's best up and coming coaches/manager it will not make a blind bit of difference if we crash out of Europe before the season even starts. Which brings me to the SPL. If we have a few bad results in a row or RD has a Tony Mowbray moment where st Mirren are beating us 4-0 or ICT put us out the cup. Ronny will be back in Norway quicker than you can say P45. The man is not going to be given time to prove himself as the history books tell you. So why give him the job in the first place. probably because nobody else wanted it.

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31 Jul 2014 18:40:17
IanL difficult to find fault in what you say EVERY SPL manager watching that last night will play 5 in the middle and play on the break like Aberdeen , counters our 4-3-3! atb

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I know Jaime your spot on, you made a very good point last night aswell. I just don't know were we go from here. Desmond & Lawell out?

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Hi Ian a really don't know either mate! A man a really admire Martin O'Neill said lately " Dermot Desmond never got where he is in life WITHOUT taking a gamble" and we know MON & DD are very close so that being the case I am beginning to ask where is our gamble ffs it cannot be Jo Ange Berget? as a business man you have to give a little to get back mate . But I cannot see them being ousted mate PL was supposed to be coveted by this that and the other for his business acumen but that one is begining to have a trace "of the emperor's new clothes" affiliated to it mate atvb JB7

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Ianl if Deila got the job in the first place
How will Celtic get a replacement if he comes to a premature end with us this season?

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#yourman - John Collins would probably take over.

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Yourman, PL appointed RD in the full knowledge that HL was in the "backburner"

HL was 1st to be asked, he said he would not walk out on his club, but said he wanted the post one day

PL needs to start getting bums back onseats mate

HL contract is up in NOV! few bad results for RD maybe Ed could clear up for us if we exit the CL do we fall into Europa or is that the next round mate? If so failure in Europa would take us to circa Nov

A said this at the time RD was appointed a stand by it more than ever mate

PL is a lot of things mate STUPID is not one of them, atb jb7

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{Ed007's Note - If we exit the CL we enter the EL at the Play-Off round. I can't understand why any CFC fan would want Larsson as manager, it would only be to appease the fans and he is miles behind Deila in terms of management/coaching ability. His team is sitting in 10th place in the Swedish league having won four games out of 16, how is that an appealing record? If Larsson hadn't played for us would anyone want him as our manager?}

Hi Ed thanks for clearing that up!

And a concur mate in fact a said yesterday to deep river bhoy these words "to appease the masses" but this is PL we are talking about

You have to start thinking like them to anticipate there next move!

There are similarities to the Tony Mowbray appointment and RD and he got caught short firing him why NL got it temp!

Trust me PL will have a plan BBB! atb

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Ed you are 100% right about H L .
Fantastic footballer we were blessed having him for seven yrs . No sign of top managerial skills yet .

John Collins may be the reason for our bad form on Wednesday night.
Ed007 thought at the outset that John Collins would be difficult to get on with.

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Never wanted JC either, Best shout was Stubbs! Think we were all horrified when he turned up at hibs within 10 days! we ruled him out on the synopsis that his mrs was never keen on Scotland and poss bad memories of him contracting cancer whilst up here atvb

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Aye Stubbs could have been a useful man at Celtic Park.

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31 Jul 2014 18:09:31
On mulgrew, the chap is a donkey I have been saying it years, shocking footballer, the only thing he has is a dead ball, but so have I! He is a bottom 3 championship player / league 1 English tier, and that's been nice. Is this what we have come to as a great club talking about mulgrew greeting a game shocking! In my opinion we have a bad manager as I said last night having him captain, he could not mind himself on the pitch, never mind the other 10! When keane turned it down says a lot about the park head behind the scene aka board room! In my opinion wed team, Fraser
Matthews Virgil lustic izzy
Mcgregor biton joannson derk bo
Commons
Stokes


My fellow bhoys what do you think

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Bo Diddley would be better than Derk Bo joe

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31 Jul 2014 19:29:49
Bo Derek STILL offers more up front too lol :-)

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Bo Anderson

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31 Jul 2014 17:44:00
What's thoughts on mulgrew everyone?
Personally I really think he should be sold once we bring in a few( if we do!)
Stokes/tampon another 2 who would pull in money.

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What's the point, they either won't spend the money or they'll bring somebody in on loan nobody has heard of, because that's the way Celtic roll and we continue to give them money for nothing in return.

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31 Jul 2014 18:54:40
He should be a squad player at best covering for cb and lb that's as far as i'd have him near the team

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I was always happy enough with Mulgrew, but last night he was terrible, I cannot remember anyone at Celtic getting 90 minutes playing as badly.

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31 Jul 2014 17:41:55
Definitely Gary hooper coming back, taxi driver told me! Lol
Come back Gary all is forgiven!
Think we can turn result round next week, but will RD change formation.
Griffiths got to start, bring Biton in as well, I like young Henderson as well but this new formation doesn't suit, Bergen looks shocking by the way never celtic class.

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31 Jul 2014 17:29:13
Just reading everyone selections for the game next week and it suddenly hit me. Why don't we have another centre half on our books capable of replacing that clown Efe?

I don't see why it has to be a player changing position to suit. We should have a first 11 and then capable replacements in each position instead of guys who play a different position every week or 3 different positions over the course of 5 games.

Anyone who remembers O'Neill or even strachan's teams could name the first 11 who would start if fit. That was my main problem with Lennon and Ronny looks to be the same.

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A bit early to say that don't you think!?

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31 Jul 2014 18:39:26
Henrik, what bit are you talking about?

I would hope that as a team playing on 4 fronts we should have adequate reserves and not just the option of moving one player from another position. What does talking about moving Mulgrew, Lustig etc. to centre half say Fraser, O'Connell?

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All I meant was RD has been here 5 minutes and needs some help strengthening the squad. A bit unfair to compare him to MON and WGS who had more money available

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31 Jul 2014 22:34:24
Sorry Henrik that wasn't my point. I was trying to point out that in the few "real" matches we have had so far there has been far too much chopping and changing just like Lennon loved to do.

Matthews left back to right mid yesterday. Mulgrew centre mid to centre back.
Pukki wide right in first game and up top in last 2 games.
Griffiths out wide then moved up top.
Commons playing all different positions.
New guy brought in when only been there for 2 days.

Also that we have lots of players but a lack of quality in both the first 11 and replacements.

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Griffiths should be our main striker for the season, Biton and Henderson should be in midfield for the return, I am a bit worried that Ronnie gave the new Norwegian guy a start, it smacks of favouritism or some word that means the same as exonophobia or something like that.

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I think Deila was wise and right to change the team around in the friendlies to get to see the players in match situations . But he was wrong to play Matthews at left back last night as he hadn't seen him play there in a match and also to play Jo as he hadn't seen if Jo could fit a Celtic Jersey .

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31 Jul 2014 14:02:13
I think next week we need to go all out attack (but please keep it tight at the back)

Mulgrew is going to have to move to centre back with VVD, Izzy and Lustig at full back

Midfield is a huge problem, Matthews on the right wing Griffiths and Stokes will need to play centre forward roles - they are all we've got

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I think we need lustig at cb instead of Mulgrew he's a much better option IMO.

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31 Jul 2014 14:23:30
If we start with one up front in this 4 3 3 formation then we are doomed for certain! RD has done nothing to prove himself yet and his team selection's already annoy me. Get big Gordon back at parkhead! Who cares about the national team lol

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31 Jul 2014 15:35:05
Midfield is a HUGE problem we have a squad laden with them and he only wants to play THREE of them oh in that's right we are signing another from Nancy!! They are going to flood that midfield next week and play 10 behind the ball! we need to play Commons in the pocket behind the TWO , we need to play Griffiths for pace , as for PUKKI never saw a centre forward with body language like that!! A centre forward is greedy! , a showman, clinical, deadly! This boy looks reserved ,very uncomfortable in the weight of our jersey probably realises now the expectations of him and HE KNOWS that is not him!! , As for Stokes his ticket is already punched and why play him when he is never ever delivered on that stage before??!! He needs to come up with something 3 4 1 2 and go for it or we are out Full stop he must throw the kitchen sink at them he is an attacking coach right?? that was why he was so alluring? atb jb7

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He could start with 3 at the back and use Izzy and Matthews as wing backs – the last thing we need is to concede a goal.

I think we have to play to our players strengths rather than the a preferred formation, for this game anyway.

We need goals and cannot afford any fancy stuff (I don’t know the technical term for this)

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31 Jul 2014 16:08:57
Big Gordon , Darrenbhoy what height are you pal lol? Thanks anyhoo you cheered me up a bit
:-) , good shout as well atb

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3 at the back with wing backs sounds ideal mrs e keep it solid and quick counter, can't understand the new guy getting started yesterday griffiths should have been on the left instead.

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31 Jul 2014 16:35:18
Mrs E, as ever I enjoy reading you a thought of the wing backs too but I don't see how we get a balance in the middle he is going to play johnansen and McGregor he needs then to get Commons in am thinking VVD ,LUSTIG, MULGREW(for set plays) middle a would go with kayal , johansen central play Henderson & McGregor either side tracking back if ness with youth / abundance on there side, commons free role , Griffiths up front on the left of the two and who do you pick alongside?

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31 Jul 2014 16:43:49
Id go 3-5-2 lustig, vvd, mulgrew at cb. Matthews n izzy as wing backs. Bitton n johansen in the middle. Commons behind griffiths n pukki/stokes

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31 Jul 2014 18:50:12
its great to have all the ideas on formation and players to use but at the end of the day the score last night was Celtic board 4 Glasgow Celtic 1

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Jamie - I'm struggling with midfield doesn't matter what way we play. When's Scott Brown back?

It's unfair to drop McCallum but he might have to! Would you have Kayal and Johansen as the centre mid partnership or Biton? With Commons or McGregor just in front then Stokes and Griffiths?

If whatever formation he goes with isn't working by half time, is this where we find out of Ronny has it to make changes?

SOS - that new guy is a non starter for me as well.

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31 Jul 2014 19:47:02
Hello Mrs E , am expecting the tail end of this to take pelters but here I go , Firstly, everybody is talking shape/formats/system without really thinking about the opposition IMO? In them they are a poor poor team! I expect THEM to play 4-5-1 or 5-4-1 or even the Spanish way 4-6 they are coming to defend IMO much like Brataslavia did too , there most dangerous player is RADOVIC he is there top scorer and he is a MIDFIELDER! therefore we have to come up with something different IMO to combat/conquer them a don't expect them to score but send out a team capable of getting goals for goodness sake! so if they get 1 we get 4!! my team would be 3-4-1-2 VVD middle of defence speed/sweeper Lustig to his right Mulgrew to his left this is balanced the later for set plays/dead ball which I will come too (and get pelters!) middle as I say kayal / johansen central/industry McGregor/ Henderson either side asking for a gut busting up/dowm performance Commons to work his magic in the "hole" behind the front two! Griffiths on the front left of two and for the pelters! and surprise a target man a wuld play BALDE for the start and make him a target man and let him hold it up for the others if not him then it has to be Stokes but a think his ticket is punched not kicked a ball since his petulance in Iceland! Any team that starts with Boerigter or Berget or Pukki we should throw in the towel Pukki can only ever make an impact not a start IMO if people are serious about a 3 -5 -2 will still know it needs a TARGET man like a HARTSON / SUTTON all the very best Mrs E JB7

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Scott brown be back mid October Mrs E atvb

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I don't think we can experiment with 3 at the back for such an important game We must have 3 central midfielders to own that part of the pitch . We can't let them score and if we can grab one or two . We may have a miracle on our hands .

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Jamie - Balde would maybe give them the height needed, I think we wasted a few corner kicks. I don't think we can rule out anyone starting or being on the bench. We're crying out for a target guy.

I know what you mean by formations etc and not figuring in the opposition. I don't know enough about their team but I just want us to be solid at the back, with options on the wing. If it turns out we are losing the battle in midfield then I hope Ronny has what it takes to change things. Remember the Aberdeen Scottish Cup game when Aberdeen swapped our midfield, it was ridiculous it wasn't changed.

Can't believe only 2 seasons ago our midfield was strong and now it's a struggle just to get a leader (without Brown).

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Hi again Mrs E nice to see you considering Balde a expected to get slaughtered for that one lol

In relation to them Ed was spot on they are a poor team Polish League is won by prob one of the lowest scoring leagues out there, there top goalscorer for the season last season only managed circa 14! for the WHOLE season! (but managed to get 4 past us)! He needs a surprise and to deploy commons to effect not through the middle atvb jb7

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Jamie bit worried this mob, they’ve scored 4 against us and 6 against St Pats – they will have a good bit of confidence going into this next week. This why I’m worried about our defence

We definitely need to be at them from kick off and not let them settle I think particularly if they plan on parking the bus, we are awful short of creativity options.

I know I sound quite pessimistic but this is the last of my negative posts, hopefully :-)

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Again Mrs E bow to the fact they will have gained momentum / confidence but far long chunks of the game they played there entire team in there on half as for taking 6 of St. Pat's not a great barometer IMO, a believe they are coming to defend as a said send a team out capable of getting FOUR! so if need be and we lose 1 we still in it to extra time a tvb

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You think legia are a poor team, they played good football the other night, always running at players, constantly walking the ball into the box, some good technique from them. Celtic had 2 shots on goal all game, a deflection from mcgregor that got the goal and a commons shot in 2nd half, celtic showed nothing to suggest they will have a chance of over-turning the result, a think it could be another long night for celtic on Wednesday

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31 Jul 2014 13:47:37
I haven't renewed my season ticket this year for the first time in a long long time which I must say is a really hard thing to do especially as my 11 year old boy doesn't really understand why but I feel I need to vote wth my feet until this current board sit up and take notice they are taking us for mugs. Anyway I recieved an email from Celtic basically pleading me to renew my season tickets and if I do I will get next weeks champions league tickets for free so I presume season ticket sales have been really slow and also it is obviously not very fair for the guys who have already renewed and have to pay for next weeks tickets.

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31 Jul 2014 13:38:28
Firstly, following on from last night a wonder if they two penalties went in would RD have survived today? (AM SERIOUS!) At the time RD took the post there were a fab piece by a BBC journo who said this will either be fabulous or another Tony Mowbary! and it won't take long to figure it out! Also a believe the general synopsis on here that RD was a cheap appointment!

A also follow a few other trains of thought that Keane never took it over budget/fiscal probably even hassle over expectation issues!

A said at the time ( a said the night before lennon left!) on here that Larsson was the favourite!

A believe had Larsson had not been tied to his current club till NOVEMBER! that he would have taken it he has said he wants it one day! (he has never walked out or changed his mind that we know of)

A also believe that PL took RD on the full knowledge of having this on the backburner! and yet again took the cheap option knowing he would appease the masses full circle!

I hope we can turn it around, but I have my doubts especially with the way they defended at home ie ten men n there own half!

RD has worked on this the justification on playing Commons through the middle was farcical when within ten mins we could see it would take a " eye of the needle pass" and pace to split them open

Lastly, we need a serious serious overhaul to play 4-3-3 and anybody thinking otherwise is kidding themselves

ATVB JB7

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What has henrik done to get offered the job here?

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31 Jul 2014 18:26:04
Answer DRB . NOTHING! What had he done when he was offered it?? As a said just to appease the masses atb jb7

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31 Jul 2014 13:35:26
Not blaming him at all for last night's disaster but doesn't anyone else think you can tell what kinda game Commons is going to have after 5 minutes.
Personally I hold mulgrew responsible for at least 2 of their goals last night. I don't think he's good enough to merit a start in the side

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31 Jul 2014 16:49:15
Henrik who do we have that is better?? It was the position he was playing he could/can NEVER run away from anyone any manager that thinks working with him for 2 months has to have there credentials examined? atb

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31 Jul 2014 18:04:24
Like I said, I'm not blaming him. I've just found if he starts poorly he generally doesn't get any better. I totally agree with you though regarding the position he was playing. I'd like to see Griffiths playing a CF role with commons just behind him in the 2nd leg but unfortunately I just can't see us doing enough to go through

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31 Jul 2014 18:28:44
A agree with you Henrik it is crying out for LG but all this talk about 5 in the middle is rubbish!

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31 Jul 2014 12:49:36
Scott brown we are pish without u, hurry back soon

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31 Jul 2014 11:54:14
Awryt ed do u or any1 else kno what's going on with tickets for nixt week as ther supposed t be oan general sale now. I have checked online and its still season ticket holders that r eligible for them. I also contacted the ticket line and was told it was meant to be haf 9 this morn for general sale but uefa have told celtic to hold off for a bit? what's that about? Phoned again 2mins ago and ah wifey told me there not going on general sale today! Just to keep checking online for updates!

HH

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31 Jul 2014 11:01:42
What do you make of NL comments on radio 5 live ed? ' I left celtic because the challenge wasn't there' personally I think he's got a cheek when you look at his cup record!

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I think after watching lennons tv interview last night, one of the main reasons Lennon left was he new his funds this season would be severely limited and was probably fed up with the players he'd like to have kept either being sold for big money or being released ie big samaras who clearly Lennon wanted to keep. Whilst we all know lennons domestic cup records were shocking, I'd have to say that had he been in charge over in Poland with the exact same squad, I wouldn't have seen us losing that tie 4-1. RD who I personally think could be a decent manager for us is playing a formation that these players aren't used to playing. Until such times as RD can get the players required to play the system he likes he d be better sticking to the 4 4 2 and playing the players in they're natural positions.

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31 Jul 2014 04:21:11
Hi ed, how do you think the celtic board will view this defeat last night? Whilst we all know we don't need to spend big to win the spfl, surely they must realise that European competition is a whole different level. I know and understand there is a certain level of player that celtic can attract to our country these days but I can't believe there wasn't a list of potential signings made up for this season also surely RD must know of a few players he'd like to bring in to the squad to play and fit into the style of football which we all love to see and he wants to play. It's alright people saying we're a selling club, and I totally accept players having a good time at celtic and maybe wanting to try and move on to better leagues but the board need to realise that selling our best players year in year out with the likes of wanyama, hooper, ledley, looks like it'll be Forster and VVD this season and raking in big bucks to replace them with very average players can't go on. We're a massive club in a very small league, but to bring in a new manager and not support him financially at the most important point of our whole season is a disgrace. We've been found severely wanting last night and in a way I'm kind of glad, for me it's a big two fingers up to the powers at be at parkhead, now they've seen what the fans have seen coming for a while. We scraped through with the skin of our teeth a last year. When will lawell etc ever learn!

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I agree with you Garry %100

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31 Jul 2014 10:44:24
Well, I suppose I should be shocked at what happened last night, but I'm not.
This is what happens when you don't invest in the team - I wouldn't be surprised if Commons wants to move after that display last night!
When are the powers that be going to realise we need to invest in the team NOW!

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31 Jul 2014 03:32:37
alright, i've got a my last guiness and a jamesons sitting in front of me, and need to vent a bit. so here goes - what have we learned from tonight?

1. ambrose is an absolute liability. get shot of him.

2. forster and vvd will be offfski if we don't get
through next week, . our two best players - gone.

3. the team looks more balanced with izzy in it. matthews is a great player, but i'd rather see him playing RM if he's going to be played out of position.

4. RD must use experience in the return leg
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5. berget should not have started

6. we desperately miss scott brown (and forrest to a lesser extent - if we're playing with wide men)

7. macgregor is showing promise

8. we were VERY lucky tonight. it could have been 6, 7 or even 8 if it hadn't been for some prolifigate finishing, poor decision making, last gap tackles and some heroic goalkeeping from big fraser
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9. I reckon boeriggter and stokes' days are numbered.

10. after all that though, we are the famous glasgow celtic - we are capable of overturning this result. magic happens when the tic are concerned. an early goal and the right team selection and we can do it.so try not to be too down hearted. it ain't over till the fat lady blah blah blah

still wish the return was at parkhead though - murrayfield was alright, but nothing beats the holy ground on european nights.

guiness drained!

g'night and god bless and keep the faith

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Here's the thing for all Mulgrew, Ambrose etc get is tight, I do not think we can afford to get rid of anyone just now until there's replacements.

I thankfully never seen the game last night but you don't lose 4-1 to an inferior team just down to a couple of our players, granted Ambrose getting sent off didn't help matters.

At this moment in the time, a fit Forrest and Scott Brown are 2 of our best players. This is where we are.

Forster, Izzy, VVD, Ambrose, Lustig, Matthews, Brown, Forrest, Commons - these are the player we have with European and International experience, that's it? Ability you can argue but they should know better than that debacle last night.

We have nothing on the bench to come of and change the game, the squad is so lacking at the moment.

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Not here to gloat I said after rangers went under the only other team that would suffer would be celtic and they have if celtic go out and lose more players I can see a real challange for the spl this year scottish football is dead on its feet sad to say but true I hope celtic get to the cl scotland needs our teams playing in europe

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I have always said Mulgrew can do a job for us in midfield . Last night he was by far our worse player .
Were half of our team even trying . Deila has failed first big task badly. Will he ever overcome last night' debacle?

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Mrs e, it was probably ambroses' worst game for us last night. lost the ball on numerous occassions, made bad decisions, every second pass was wayward. he was suspect at the first goal, god only knows how he couldn't clear the cross for the second and as for the red card? bad control in the middle of the park, but ambrose was a good few yards out of positon when legia broke. these few yards would have prevented the red card. I thought for the first 20 minutes or so we looked not too bad, it was a bit end to end, but I thought we'd take control. ambrose was imo, the reason we were beaten so heavily.

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31 Jul 2014 00:21:55
Kills me to say it but never have Celtic deserved a pumping like that more so than they did tonight! Lack of investment lack of vision and a lack of quality on the park only got Peter Lawell to blame for the biscuit tin mentality and not investing in a couple of marquee signings! If Celtic were skint a could accept it but when you know the money we have brought into the club in the last few seasons from player sales and champions league money it makes me sick can't think of a reason why we can't give RD 10-15 to strengthen instead we penny pinch in 1m bracket these day and for 1m all you get is a good spfl player at best can't keep buying players for that kind of money and hope we find a superstar bad business strategy. The kidding needs to stop now we have sold quality players and replaced them with sheer average not good enough We deserve to see a few quality players brought in but all we will get hit with is we can't afford them if we don't make the CL! Personally think it's time for Lawell to go all he cares about is how the accounts look!

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Is it not Demot Desmond who sets the budgets?
I think the whole team was so poor, individually as players and collectively as a team that £10 m spent on players may not have made much of a difference .

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30 Jul 2014 23:03:15
Ed007 I really value you opinion on all things Celtic I would love to know your option and views on tonight's game and on Celtic as a whole I know most of us are hurting right now and we are all mad at The board! Do you think there is light at the end of this tunnel?

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{Ed007's Note - I still expect us to make the Play-Off round.}

I'm with you Ed. Too many players were well below par and this result will hopefully waken them up, including RD. Tough to pull back 3 goals but we can do it.

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I hope, rather than believe you are right .

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Ed, are you serious when you say that?
I'd be delighted be proved wrong but it looks to me like we're out with a whimper.

Hail Hail

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{Ed007's Note - Of course I'm serious, do you not think we can beat them 3-0?}

31 Jul 2014 12:03:50
Ed

I really love your optimism but I just can't see it with the squad we have.

I watched the game last night and they were far superior to us in every outfield department. Their goalkeeper was torture though.

I guess you are hoping that they don't travel well or that a few teams were watching the game and are going to bid for half their first team in the next few days.

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31 Jul 2014 14:19:35
I think it's possible, but only if RD stops this 4 3 3 p!sh. We just can't do it! We all knew this last season when lenny was trying to play one striker up front. We went 4 4 2 after Griffiths signed and started destroying teams like we used to. We has no one told him yet? I worry because if he is doing an in depth analysis of our squad and this is what he comes up with, then he can't be the best tactition or team selector. Screw Scotland get stracken back! lol

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