Celtic Banter Archive January 31 2021

31 Jan 2021 20:43:34
ed007 jonjo kenny from everton what should we expect from him this a good deal mate.

{Ed001's Note - he has asked me to get this as I have seen a fair bit of Kenny. He is an old-fashioned right-back, good defensively but not the best going forward. In fact he tends to offer very little in that respect. Personally I like him, he is a trier but you wouldn't want him as a wing-back as his crossing is a weakness.}

31 Jan 2021 22:01:50
Right wing it is for you son. says the Lenny playbook of amazing tictacs.

31 Jan 2021 22:16:25
Hope he brings his gloves.

31 Jan 2021 23:16:54
The diamond we play needs attacking fullbacks we lack width as it is.

01 Feb 2021 07:31:28
ed001. thanks for reply mate appreciated. as long as he is good at defending that's what were missing at the back just now defenders who can defend.

{Ed001's Note - he will charge forward, but it is not his forte at all, which is why he has struggled to get a game. Shame as I think being able to defend is an art that is fast vanishing in football.}

01 Feb 2021 08:27:54
agree ed. our right back who just left was all attacking and no defending. that's all i would be looking for kenny to do defend good and and he would do well at us. we have been very shocking in defence this season gutted to miss out on ben Davies. by what you have says about kenny defensively and what i have now seen of Davies and herd this could have sorted our defence out and made it much tighter.

{Ed001's Note - I am very surprised he is not going back to the Bundesliga to be honest, he should be a good signing, though it depends on if there is a manager in place capable of figuring out how to get the best from him.}

01 Feb 2021 08:47:00
is there a option to buy in the deal ed or is it just a loan to end of season.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any option to buy, I believe it is just a loan.}

31 Jan 2021 20:04:46
I see that Damarai Gray (Leicester winger) has signed for Bayer Leverkusen for 2M. I mentioned the other week that he could have possibly been an option for us, still only 24yrs old.

31 Jan 2021 18:47:48
Ben davies agreed to sign for liverpool, That reeks of stevie G. Hearing celtic will now turn there attention to big bevis mugabe for 3 million. Good signing if you ask me.

31 Jan 2021 19:03:36
Hoops, nothing to do with SG just another example of Celtic dragging their heels trying to get the cheapest option. We desperately need a CB so why not buy the boy weeks ago, oh that's right saves 6 months wages with a pre contract. PL, NL and DD are turning us in to a joke of a club.

31 Jan 2021 19:44:54
Big Shane gets a reprieve. realistically you'd hope the lad recognises his option but you couldn't blame him for having the self confidence to believe he can succeed there.

31 Jan 2021 19:58:04
Have to say I know very little of Ben Davis but the fact Liverpool are looking like signing him now he’s obviously got something about him so the whole thing from a Celtic point of view reeks of another cheap option exercise rather than making sure a deal got tied up.

31 Jan 2021 22:04:12
If this is true then once again we have showed how bad our business side just in line with playing side of the club.

31 Jan 2021 17:42:16
Ronny Deila for Director of football? What's your thoughts Ed? Any chance? Would he take it? Would he be offered it?

{Ed007's Note - That'll never happen. RD's currently the Head Coach of New York City FC who are owned by Man City's owners and he'll more than likely stay working within the City Football Group in one way or another for the foreseeable future.}

31 Jan 2021 18:33:30
We would be well on our way to 10 with RD in charge.

31 Jan 2021 18:51:34
So won't happen because he'd never take it, or would he not even be considered for it in any case? Who would your choice be for DoF?

{Ed007's Note - I honestly don't know mate. The job entails that much it's hard to know who could and couldn't do it. Brendan Rodgers was all for John Kennedy being made our DOF and I would never have thought of him, Ajax's DOF is Marc Overmars and their CEO is Edwin van der Sar, who would have thought those 2 would do jobs like that? If you read that article the other day John Collins sounds ideal for the job!
Ralf Rangnick would be amazing as he's got a proven track record and personally I think Bielsa would do a fantastic job.}

31 Jan 2021 19:11:05
Rangnick will prob retire within red bull soccer.

{Ed007's Note - Rangnick left Red Bull GmbH last summer.}

31 Jan 2021 20:43:25
Read the article about John Collins, was an interesting suggestion? and a well written piece, think it was the Celtic star?

{Ed007's Note - I put a link up to it at the time, Vin and I agree that it was very well written and put across the point of view very well. Could JC be a successful DOF? Again I honestly don't know but I wouldn't be keen because I know what a divisive character he is, he's a Marmite character that you either love or think he's just an arrogant sod.}

31 Jan 2021 21:11:43
Aye agreed though that arrogance could translate to high standards he would try to implement!?

{Ed007's Note - He'd certainly be single-minded and not easily swayed from his ideals.}

31 Jan 2021 16:33:33
Hearing from the utmost reliable source that dom mckay doesn't fancy sylvinho and that now not happening. Dom mckay has 2 options in mind stick with lennon and let him do the real build or appoint, you guessed it. MALKY MCKAY. Next manager will definitely be lennon or mckay anybody that says otherwise isn't in the know and hasn't a clue.

31 Jan 2021 17:03:16
Get tae.

31 Jan 2021 17:05:46
Anyone that suggests it will be Lennon or McKay hasn’t a clue! Amazing all these reliable sources kicking about the now with none of them proving very reliable so far!

31 Jan 2021 17:09:31
I'm waiting for the cream to rise to the tippy top, or is that tipping point, and the man the legend the tony mowbray coming in with John Barnes leading the crowd with his rap repertoire.

31 Jan 2021 17:41:47
Give it a rest Hoops, more utter B*ll*cks from yourself.
A guy that hasn't even taken control of his new job is already deciding who will and won't be our new manager.

31 Jan 2021 17:55:11
If Malky Mckay becomes manager we are doomed to fail.

31 Jan 2021 18:19:25
Doomed doomed I tell ye. The end of the world is nigh repent and believe the Good News!

31 Jan 2021 18:31:39
Well Jonbhoy71 looks like you’ll have egg on your face when malky takes over. You’ll have to change your name to eggyface71.

31 Jan 2021 18:41:13
Would Mackay be an improvement on Lennon?, I think so.

31 Jan 2021 19:30:12
Fulton?

31 Jan 2021 19:33:03
I suspect keeping Lennon would be the start of mr McKay‘s demise. Theirs lots he can do that would be very brave every poor result after that would be on his head.

01 Feb 2021 15:10:24
I ok Hoops88, you just need to change your names right now to Loopy88.

31 Jan 2021 13:43:31
very poor season. were it has all went wrong for me is not letting a few of the want away players go in the summer. to have at least 7 players wanting to leave and most being vocal about it is just stupid and creates a real bad feel about the team. at least 4 or 5 should have been aloud to leave.


from what i hear wee had ntcham eddy bitton Frimpong Julien Christie el hamed. ajar to but i do not think he was being vocal he stayed professional.

looking at it now we should have granted them there wishes and let them leave and we might not be in this positions. and before people comment lennon this lennon that a lot of managers would find it very difficult to get a team going with that amount of players wanting to leave especially when most of them are first team players.

he has been let down badly by a lot of them which has resulted in his fans turning against him and some amount of abuse aimed at him. i hope at end of season when he is gone he will come out and let everyone know how much upset they caused through the season with not wanting to be at our club and how much it derailed our season and for me i would never welcome any them back at celtic park again just my own personal view on it.

its hard to get a job done when your tools are broke.

31 Jan 2021 13:49:28
Good Post.

31 Jan 2021 13:53:29
The question that also has to be asked UI is, why do so many of our first team want to leave at the same time and when we had the chance to make Scottish football history? Only my opinion but i think that a lot of that had to do with Neil Lennon. He has never been known as a good man manager.

31 Jan 2021 14:03:38
Isnt being a good man manager the only thing that NL is known for? Plenty of players that played for him say that!

31 Jan 2021 14:04:06
More money is the answer.

31 Jan 2021 14:05:19
United Ireland fair points there is absolutely no doubt the players need to take a long hard look at themselves and have let the manager down badly. I said a while back the mistake was holding on to the want aways but 20/ 20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. We would have been up in arms if they’d sold our big players in the year we were going for 10IAR and Peter Lawell would have got it tight.

The damage is done now and it’s water under the bridge. We need to rebuild starting with the manager. Livingston and St. Mirren showed what can be achieved with good organisation eleven with limited quality. We’re all over the place no system no structure substitutions are baffling and I can’t remember the last time they turned the game around. Outthought in the reincarnated Rangers dug out and outfought on the park on three occasions.


There are other aspects that are concerning that Neil Lennon can’t be blamed for youth development, recruitment and scouting system. We need a pull through with a Christmas tree as a club and to start again. We’ve been here before and we’ll recover.

31 Jan 2021 14:58:53
Agreed JFP, there's work to be done in order to get the club back on track from a footballing perspective as the comnercial side is very strong.

We've announced a new CEO and if we're serious, a D. O. F. will come in and then appoint the new manager and coaching staff.

As always there's talk of who the new favourite to be manager is, the latest is John Kennedy, I hope it's just media speculation as this would likely mean no D. O. F and for me be another cheap option as well as letting down for the supporters.

I'm not saying we need a 'big name' but it has to be the right appointment. We've had more than our fair share of crap managers so for me this is an opportunity to lay solid foundations for years to come.

31 Jan 2021 15:16:33
@arrowh its no really a hard question that is it mate. same reason dembele left same reason kt left same with Armstrong. i think letting hayes and gordon go has been a massive mistake as well. but at the time it all seemed okay.

a good manager in get the want away moaners out in the summer and add a few strong signings we still have a lot of quality in the squad midfield 3 of turnbull soro and McGregor in a hi confidence Celtic team i am looking forward to seeing them in action when morale is restored

the team just now is very low on morale and it must not be a good feel at the club just now. if ben Davies is joining from what iv seen now and read he looks a good signing strong and knows how to defend so that has started the defence rebuild already try get big ajar to extend contract and give us another season.

31 Jan 2021 17:03:30
UI. As plumber When my tools not working I replace them so I can continue with job Has Lenny been told you will have to get by with tools got or is his misuse of said tools breaking them? Either way has led to botched job in any case the expression A good tradesman never blames his tools springs to mind. there is no other appropriate action other than he goes ASAP. I've given him benefit of doubt for months now. But livi away and that yesterday has tipped me over edge It's not going to improve killie will beat us wed That is unacceptable to any reasonably minded fan What is going on Celtic?

31 Jan 2021 17:31:27
p73. how would your jobs work out mate if your broken tools had to be used for the job and you could not replace them. easy to replace a tool mate not so easy to replace half a football team of first team players in the one transfer window


as the saying goes a good tradesmen never blames his tools but his jobs will never be perfect with faulty tools some jobs he will get through some he won't in till the problem is sorted old tools gone new ones in.


listen i understand a new manager is needed but i do not shy away from calling out the players who have left him in this position once this season is over most of those players will be gone bigging it up at some other club loving there bank balance and not one thought about how our club is doing wile lenny a club legend will be devastated and left with losing the 10 on his mind probably for the rest of his life and a broken relationship with the fans our the club he loves. 99percent of the abuse has been aimed at him and none to the beloved Edouard the big goal machine and the rest of them.

31 Jan 2021 19:38:22
A percentage of these players are foreign and have no connection to the club other than wages, would have some knowledge but no more than for sayAjax
Their emotional attachment is not the same as home grown players like Broon
I believe they were intised here by promises of euro football giving them a platform to shine from, moving on in a year or two. Win win for everyone, club gets a good standard of player in, potential big sell on fee, they get put in the shop window
This process broke down by asking them to stay longer
In short, a bad result is just a bad day at the office for them not the same as seen by the fans.

31 Jan 2021 12:53:34
Possible in?
Davis pre contract Y/ N?

A RB in on Loan. Y/ N

A surprise young winger Y/ N

Outs

Ntcham out on Loan

Christie out Loan to buy?

Lennon out on Gardening Leave with or mutual consent

Last one nothing to do with the window what do we think ED 007 and bhoys and ghirls to these things?

31 Jan 2021 13:16:10
Nothing will happen today.

31 Jan 2021 13:18:02
Rich T for me from your list number one priority is the manager away on Monday for his own sake and the clubs no more press conferences. After that we need a centre half. Then Ntcham away no loan deal if somebody takes him they keep him. Christie I’m not overly fussed he’s a good utility player but if his heart isn’t in it he can go for me. Not sure a right back is a priority Ajer can play there. Not over fussed about a winger as hoping James Forrest isn’t far away from a return plus we’ve got other options.

31 Jan 2021 13:38:49
Our three goalkeepers have hardly made a save between them all season (and I'm not including the shoot-out in the Cup final) .
Duffy and Bitton are ineffective to put it mildly and the moral, desire and confidence within the club has not been lower for years - not helped by severely negative attitudes and zero team spirit.
Very few of the players are anywhere near top form and when was the last time any substitutions actually made an ounce of difference or have left us scratching our heads in bewilderment?
Second spot is far from a gimme if we continue down this road, so unless drastic action is taken very soon, IMO it will take more than a couple of loan signings to turn this around?

Worryingly, NL seems assured of his place; going by his interviews and PL - although winding down - will also probably be miffed at criticism aimed at him (DD and NL) and may just be treading water?
The general consensus seemed to support NL staying until the summer, but manager/ player relations seem to have deteriorated?
Any change or re-shuffle must not be a panic move as it could have damaging repercussions for next season as well and as most of us said after the Dubai trip that compounded the problems of this whole, crazy season:- The whole 'window' should have been used to off-load and re-build in preparation for next term, but hey-ho.
DD stepped in after the last 'crisis' under RD and maybe more of the same needs to be done before it gets any worse?

31 Jan 2021 13:49:51
JFP I’ve given up hoping he’ll be away tonight, tomorrow, next week. complete shambles of a club right now. They’re getting away with Murder as they really don’t have anyone to answer to.

31 Jan 2021 14:07:45
I would like a right back in don't think Ajer is the answer he's had a few poor games there now.

31 Jan 2021 09:45:42
I wonder if Leigh Griffiths is wishing he had kept his mouth shut last week when he slated fans.

31 Jan 2021 12:15:31
Defending his manager to only get publicly criticized the following week by him.

31 Jan 2021 13:53:45
Not everything lennon does is wrong. He has Continually said LG has to improve his fitness, NL has supported the player throughout his struggles. Telling a player the truth shouldn't Condemned. It's time for NL to go but he isn't to blame for everything.

31 Jan 2021 14:09:42
Sos Bhoy 👍.

31 Jan 2021 15:07:24
Sos-bhoy can you remember when Deila took over from Lennon after his first spell in charge? Deila was shocked at fitness levels of players and was publicy slated with a smarmy remark from Lennon about chips. Fast forward a few years and again we are seeing the same issues with some players this season. Far too much of a coincidence and is just another red flag towards Lennons incompetence.

31 Jan 2021 16:10:02
SOS- BHOY I’m afraid Lennon is to blame for everything he is the manager he picks the team and does the tactics seldom fields the same eleven and as the manager he can’t motivate players so for me he is to blame.

31 Jan 2021 08:02:33
For goodness sake have us Celtic supports not had bad enough time of it but then they start reporting Kennedy to take over I mean give us a bit of respit.

31 Jan 2021 09:43:38
No they haven't reported anything about Kennedy taking over.

31 Jan 2021 09:48:57
Lenny is talking about himself rebuilding in the summer. I read it and immediately thought, the poor guy has melted down.

31 Jan 2021 10:46:44
Think Lennons on the biggest dose of deludamol ever handed out.

31 Jan 2021 11:22:29
Unfortunately that’s the major problem, he thinks he’s doing everything right. Those around and above him appear to be too loyal to disagree
From the children’s story, someone needs to tell the king he’s naked.

31 Jan 2021 11:46:12
What the is Lennon even talking about a summer rebuild plan for, I dread to think.

31 Jan 2021 12:04:46
It’s like watching Donald Trump refusing to leave the White House.

31 Jan 2021 12:43:34
A. glasgow. green I think Lennon is talking about his plans of digging up his old patio at his home and replacing with a monoblock structure in the summer.

31 Jan 2021 02:19:02
At the start of the season i suggested Paul Onuachu of Genk as a replacement for Edouard. Do anyone else have any thoughts. He's banging them in this season so far.

31 Jan 2021 06:21:22
Yeah no chance, he is valued almost the same as Eddy, simply will cost too much.

30 Jan 2021 23:52:37
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, how can any player be serious about getting a offer from another club if they aren't performing, surely play your best and get your best possible move if you want to leave, that way it works for both parties. Get yourself in the best possible shape so if you do move you hit the ground running. Sometimes there's only so much you can blame a manager but realistically what type of intricate tactics do players need to beat a team like st mirren. To many slackers. Now lennon has said again about players wanting away, drop them and play one of the younger players who will give there all.

31 Jan 2021 06:42:08
It’s too late mate to start dropping the slackers. I mean look at yesterday, if we dropped the slackers we’d have no team to put out. The rot has totally ran through the squad. For whatever reason those players have chucked it under lennon that’s as clear as the nose on the end of your face mate and no amount of arse licking by lennon will change that now. The only way forward now is a parting of the ways by Celtic and lennon and Kennedy. The players will now need to wait till the summer but make no mistake the fans will never forgive these guys either. The ones who’ve stated they want away better hope it happens for them come the summer and they aren’t left here because they’ll no longer be wanted by the support, so your ntcham rogic Duffy jullien christie edouard ajer etc the ones who’ve made it perfectly clear they want out better hope they’re shocking performances and attitudes this season don’t hamper moves away from the club.

31 Jan 2021 09:08:28
We have just sent a couple of very talented players out on loan why not not get them in the first surely they can’t be any worse than what we have got 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

30 Jan 2021 22:53:37
I heard on Radio Snyde that during the fight in the dressing room. Christie tried to kick a water bottle at Lennon but it ended up in Duke Street. None of the goalies moved and Duffy Headerd the skirting board trying to clear it.

31 Jan 2021 05:17:35
Sounds about right, Pud :)

30 Jan 2021 22:34:42
I like the majority of the support
Think lennon's times up . but this constant
Line that he isn't a true Celtic man because
He's looking for a payoff is in my opinion
Not the case. Firstly he has a rolling contract which means he'll be due a years wages and no more.
Secondly Martin O'Neill was paid his salary
Long after he'd left the club and I'm pretty sure strachan was the same.