Celtic Banter Archive September 30 2016

30 Sep 2016 20:39:38
Laughing at all the Plastic Man City fans wanting Niall Quinn took out there Hall Of Fame for celebrating Celtic scoring against them on Wednesday haha! I never knew that every player that has been inducted into a clubs hall of fame had to support that club!

30 Sep 2016 21:39:40
A bit of nonsense from some gob shites who think that an EPL team has only to go out on to the field to beat Celtic .
As far as I am aware big Niall owned and potted Sunderland to success over Manchester City with no talk about abducting him from their Hall of Fame.

30 Sep 2016 22:16:25
Their fans comments on their own forum were bewildering after the Celtic match. Deeply dismissive. Unintelligent. They gave virtually no credit. Critical of commentators for talking incessantly about Celtic Park atmosphere etc. Critical about Scottish football. They see us a donkey team with no right to compete. Not so long ago they were totally skint and were losing heavily to all and sundry.

Now they have Qatari's at the helm and all is well…and well earned.

30 Sep 2016 22:57:58
Money doesn't last for ever! What happens when all these " plastic clubs " as I call them as they have no identity (man city, PSG to name a few lose there beneficiaries? When the Shiek gets bored and pulls his Money who is going to pick up the 250k a week wage for reserve player Yaya Toure etc lol? I expect arrogance with all them down south, a reason why they are all hated worldwide whilst us passionate fans are loved around the world! I'd take passion over greed and money any day :) !

{Ed007's Note - There is no single Sheikh to get bored, it's a company called City Football Group who also own 80% of New York City FC, they own Melbourne City outright and have a stake in Japanese club Yokohama F. Marinos.
City's owners have no intentions of pulling out of the club, they are in it for the long haul and there's also mega-rich Chinese investors involved in there too. If they ever decided to sell there would be no shortage of takers all over the world who would jump at the chance to buy City, it's one of the best run clubs in the world and the earning potential is huge. Don't forget that these clubs are ruled by FFP Regs, the owners can't just keep putting money in, clubs can only spend what they make, within reason.
And to be fair, Man City's owners are investing serious money in the whole area, and what they've done is jaw dropping. Google the Etihad Campus and/or Sports City, Manchester.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Man City being spoke about like clubs like Celtic, Man Utd, Barca, and Madrid, Bayern, Juve etc in 30 years time. Remember all these clubs had to build their history, City are doing that just now imo - they took a massive step towards that the other night, all the so called super clubs have been shocked and surprised when they face a full flight Celtic team in a jam packed and bouncing Celtic Park.}

30 Sep 2016 23:09:10
The man city fans are no different from any other EPL clubs fans! They live on a different planet! Like paradise says, it wasn't to long ago that they didn't have 2 bob to rub together and where languishing in the lower leagues down there! But in swoops they'r cash rich new owners and there sky money and they sit in judgement of teams from the smaller countries! What really makes them sick is the atmosphere created in paradise the other nite there money can't buy! This is fans with a team full of the worlds best players yet still can't sell out there stadium! Cannot stand a single EPL team or there fans! Everyone one of them can take a flyin f**k to there selves!

30 Sep 2016 23:39:29
Well said Wiss81! I play at junior level and was playing in the indoor pitches this week as the weather was horrific here, nearly every kid and some adults had English BPL kits of some sort on. I just don't get it? Why would you support another foreign club over your home club? I was born 2nins from Parkhead and moved to Dundee as a 5yr old. The thought of buying an ENGLISH team kit makes my skin crawl. Support your home town club end off. Maybe if the fans of smaller clubs like Ross County etc bought a Ross County kit instead of a Man Utd one that would be a start.

{Ed007's Note - What about the millions of Celtic supporters that don't support their local team? The bus loads that travel from all over Scotland, come up from England and across from Ireland every week? If those people stopped following Celtic to follow their local team we would be no better than a Hearts or Hibs.
Or is an Irish lad supporting Celtic different from a Scottish lad supporting Liverpool or a Chinese lad supporting Man Utd? Celtic's worldwide appeal is what defines us as one of the great football clubs in the world.}

01 Oct 2016 02:07:22
Build their history or buy their history?, money from dubious sources?, money from the exploitation of 'slave labour'?, money from god knows where as long as its money? .

01 Oct 2016 08:46:21
when I was at secondary school - late 70s - first day kids in my class asked me

Whos your English team? (catholic school in east end of Glasgow so your Scottish team wasn't in question)

I didn't get the question - I asked Why would I have an English team? But they all did then usually man u or Liverpool - I really just didn't get it

Sky Sports ramps up Super Sunday, Fantastic Friday or Magnificent Monday: Barnsley V Watford. does nothing for me

Watching Celtic - or teams we are about to come up against - yes (or I make time for the Mighty Ragers getting gubbed - happening a lot lately. )

01 Oct 2016 04:57:57
Hail Hail to that last comment there Ed.

{Ed007's Note - Hail, Hail JT (yes)

01 Oct 2016 13:10:34
Dont get the relevance to having to support your local team tbh.

I'm from Inverness and grew up there till I was 17. My first ever football game I attended was at celtic park mixing it in the jungle when I was 7 years old with my late uncle. Since then I was hooked and never looked back. I watched Inverness thistle as my local team but that was squashed with the caley merger but it was never the same as my first love.

I'm a believer that you don't choose what team to support it chooses you and the more supporters the better imo, it's what makes our club.

01 Oct 2016 16:56:07
Surely if you know our history, u will know why old fools like me make the trip as often as we can to Celtic Park .
I know of no reason, other than glory hunters from the past going to the wee L'pool stadium . I suppose they stole our songs and got Kenny for a song .

30 Sep 2016 14:29:44
One of the things that impressed me the most was Dembele, after running himself into the ground, towards the end of the game and chasing down Silva running over half the pitch! Absolutly exquisite. The amount of headers he manages to make in our box whilst defending corenrs as well is like having an extra man in defence - extremly impressive.

30 Sep 2016 17:17:35
He is fast becoming a top all round footballer . He seems to be a dream to work with as he wants to learn.

30 Sep 2016 19:04:24
i seem to remember drogba being an important player for set pieces defensively aswell the similarity is there, tho I wonder how good Drogba was at 19/20.

01 Oct 2016 08:15:55
Was good enough that he was going to sign for us, but Momo Sylla told him not to for whatever reason.

29 Sep 2016 23:10:07
I would be interested to know "ed 's " opinion now on Brendan Rodgers . Before the appointment I was honestly thinking I would prefer moyes, just goes to show you what I know. But since the season started I have to say I couldn't be happier with the football we have been playing . I know there has been a couple of bad results along the way but everything we could have hoped for so far has been achieved. I understand that with the way we are set up now, every now and then we will get humped by better opposition but I'm generally excited about the team now and more so what the team can become after a couple of transfer windows. I'm sure I can recall ed not being overly impressed with the appointment and was interested if he has like me changed his mind?

{Ed007's Note - I was happy with Rodgers appointment and the board done brilliantly to bring him in but I had concerns after taking great delight in seeing how Liverpool fans thought of him even though he had taken them to within a baw hair of their first title in nearly 30 years - Gerrard slipping and them losing the league was a personal highlight of that particular season for me.
Rodgers has only been in the job a matter of months so no, he's not done anything to make me turn into a star-struck teenage girl over him. Two weeks ago we were slaughtered 7-0 in the worst European result in our history (I gave Neil Lennon pelters for his humiliation in the Nou Camp but gave Rodgers the benefit of the doubt, it was his first CL game with us after all) and before that we had our most embarrassing ever result in Europe losing to a team of part-timers in Gibraltar. Rodgers has addressed the GK situation - a situation that I have highlighted for the past three years - by bringing in someone that 99% of people would say is worse than Gordon, he's made Kolo Toure one of the best paid players at the Club and yet we still can't seem to keep a clean sheet.
In the cold light of day, is losing 3 goals at home in Europe really us getting back to 'Fortress Parkhead' and is throwing away the lead 3 times in the one game at home acceptable? Out of 8 European matches so far this season we have won 3 - but who cares about that, just think of all that lovely money we'll invest in the team next summer!
So one of my initial concerns was about how our defence would be set up and how it would perform and it's still there simply because the problem is still there. Are you happy with our defence?

30 Sep 2016 15:23:07
I know we conceaded 3 at home ed but we are up against a team with a 400m squad with possibly the best manager in the world at the moment who had also won there previous 10 games.
Surely br deserves a little credit.

I'm with you on the defence and the previous results against imps and hbs. The performance against hbs in particular in isreal I thought was horrendous and one of the worst I've seen us play.

Having said that i think all managers need time at any club and br at celtic isn't any different. I honestly believe we are heading in the right direction ed and so far it's a huge improvement on the last couple years.

I've said before I'm a glass half full guy tho 😁.

HH.

{Ed007's Note - I wasn't asked to give Rodgers credit though, I answered the OP's question about whether I was still had the same reservations about Rodgers appointment
How much did the Red Imps team and the Alloa team we struggled to beat cost to assemble? Or drawing 2-2 with the team bottom of the league because we couldn't defend our lead, and their squad didn't cost £400 million.
In 6 league games we haven't kept a clean sheet all season, conceding 8 goals in 6 matches, and out of a total of 16 matches so far this season we've only managed 3 clean sheets - Red Imps at home, a honking Motherwell side and League One side Alloa.}

30 Sep 2016 15:42:34
Do you remember that game where David Marshal was in goals in Barcelona, he played a blinder making x amount of great saves, or that game might have ended seven nil as well, still think if it had been Gordon in goals instead of Devries, it wouldn't have been anywhere near seven nil.

30 Sep 2016 16:22:03
Fair point ed.

Do you think there has been any improvement? The quality of players and style of play has imo.

{Ed007's Note - There's definitely been a massive improvement in the style of play, some of our attacking play is the best I've seen from a Celtic team in a long, long time and we are light years ahead of anyone in Scotland - and that's the really important stuff for me, I want us to dominate Scottish football.
You can see by the way the team are playing that they are enjoying themselves out there - Scott Brown has had an outstanding start to the season and I'll even grudgingly give Forrest some credit but he needs to keep it up over a full season, we've seen it far too many times from him before to think he's finally turned the corner, let's see what his stats are at the end of the season.
I was really excited about signing Dembele and was amazed that we actually we did, the kid is going to be a superstar and he seems to have got his head screwed on, he knows he's better off up here playing and learning rather than sitting on the bench of an EPL side.
Sinclair I had my doubts about but he's surprised me how quickly he's found his feet and more importantly his form, I thought his best days were behind him and I'm happy to be proven wrong on that one. It looks like his slump over the past few seasons might have been a confidence thing after his nightmare at City.
Toure I'm not so sure about, I wouldn't say he's been a failure but he hasn't brought the strong presence to the defence I expected him to. He's still a MILLION miles better than Ambrose though. I'm looking forward to seeing Sviatchenko and Simunovic getting a run in there together. In my opinion, one of the best bits of business we did in the summer, and we had a couple, was holding onto Simunovic regardless of how it happened.}

30 Sep 2016 17:19:04
Cheers ed i would say I agree with pretty much everything you said there except toure.
I like him and think the likes of tierney and O'connell could really benefit from him being there.

Hope to God you haven't jinxed forrest lol. I've been holding off for ages not giving him too much praise in fear of getting my fingers burnt. The boy really has turned the corner but yeah let's judge him after a full season.

I would love to see us spend a couple quid on a decent keeper. I think our defenders need someone who can command there area, communicate and of course make a couple saves.

{Ed007's Note - A 'keeper must be the top priority next summer, having a strong reliable 'keeper is the basis for a confident defence. I'm not buying all this trendy en vogue pish about 'keepers being good with the ball at their feet, give me an old fashioned GK who isn't scared to come for the ball and who will throw their body in front of the ball and players first and foremost, if they could ping a pass they wouldn't be a 'keeper. Now we've got these tosser pundits sitting in TV studios talking about 'keepers having poor distribution all because Guardiola spoke about it.
And whoever came up with the 'sweeper-keeper' phrase needs their stones WELL rattled.}

30 Sep 2016 17:29:17
I am sure Celtic fans are warming very much to Brendan . Fans of other clubs can have their glass half empty but I must say that my glass is half full. Ten EPL teams have tried to take the lead against City this season but none could . The whole money rich EPL are looking up at Manchester City we are looking across .
I suppose it's only but right that the 3rd richest club in the world ( 3rd highest wages )
Should be able to match us with a wage bid 5 % of Manchester City .
Imagine we signed a 35 year old defender and still concede goals, maybe we should have signed a 40 year old and by our critics thinking we may not concede any .

30 Sep 2016 17:56:35
I had my doubts about Toure before he came but must say that on the whole I have been impressed with what I have seen of him.

In my opinion he held the defence together at the end of the Man City match and I think his experience helped us see that game out.

Don't get me wrong he does make mistakes but far less than Ambrose. I also think the other CBs will benefit playing alongside him.

30 Sep 2016 18:31:43
I was also doubtful of the Toure signing but I thin he is doing very well for us. Definitely a keeper we need. Whilst we haven't kept many clean sheets, quite a few goals we have conceded is due to the keeper not doing well enough. We are always going to give the opposition chances due to our attack minded football so need a really strong keeper not only to save more but also to organise the defence in front of him.

{Ed007's Note - Wasn't Toure supposed to be the old experienced head that would organise our defence? The only time that's a GK's responsibility is at set pieces. If a team is losing goals the defence must shoulder part of the responsibility.
We can't just accept that our style of play means the opposition can create chances, that's a fault in the tactics if the team is 'easy' to score against. Teams in Scotland will play Celtic knowing they could be onto a hiding but opposition strikers will be quietly confident of nicking a goal, and that's not all down to the GK.
I'm 100% confident that we'll win comfortably against Dundee tomorrow but I don't think we'll keep a clean sheet.
It's not a major problem against teams in Scotland but our defensive frailties have been seriously exposed in Europe and not just against Barca and Man City.}

30 Sep 2016 19:20:46
our defensive problems have been a problem for us since the Lisbon lions era, there is no difference now.
The thing that some don't take into account that since then the gulf is HUGE now between us and the top teams in Europe.

Even back to the days of Charlie Murdo etc we conceded goals in Europe.
I can't see ANY way we won't concede in Europe these days against the superstars that Barcelona Man City Bayern etc can afford even at home.

On a side note Tierney just impresses the hell out of me.
Never mind his defensive skills how many assists is he on now.
Like the Barcelona full backs he doesn't just put a cross in he picks a player out, that for me tells me he is class.
How many top full backs do u know that when when they get to the byeline fail to deliver.

30 Sep 2016 23:17:56
It shouldn't be so easy for teams in Europe to score against us rab, we've shipped a lot of goals both in qualifiers and cl. A can accept Barcelona and man city finding a way through our defence but 10 goals in 2 games is a bit frightening. Saying that, Wednesday was night and day from the Barcelona away performance.

Definitely think us fans played a massive role in the teams confidence tho, that was one of the best atmospheres I've experienced n av seen a few good ones. It was up there with juventus for me n our players fed off it in the best way possible. During the cl anthem they're players didn't know if it was new york or new year. Loved it from start to finish n had goose bumps for 2 days.

30 Sep 2016
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Sam in The Sting

30 Sep 2016 09:26:58
I think the biggest difference I've noticed from a supporter's perspective this season is that I'm dying for the Dundee game to kick off almost as much as I was for the City game. I attended and watched the games last season but a lot of the time it felt like a chore, a labour of love. But the way we're playing this season has been an absolute joy to watch for the most part and there really is a massive air of optimism about the place. You go into every domestic game thinking there's 4 or 5 goals on the cards. Well done to all involved and long may it continue.

30 Sep 2016 10:02:42
I know what you mean, I have not felt this way either since Martin O'Neil's days when we had Larsson.

30 Sep 2016 11:02:09
Exactly, I was a little bit too young to really appreciate how good we had it under MON but this time around I'm really savouring how dominant we are. Obviously it's still early days but things are looking good.

30 Sep 2016 12:29:44
As an older supporter, I can appreciate confidently anticipating every game, rather than wondering and hoping - or even dreading matches and just now the games can't come quick enough.
I am sure the players are feeling that way too and what's even more encouraging, is the manager is still building and planning for the future and that augurs well for the future of Celtic.
Hope I've not put the Kally-bosh on the Bhoys now?!

30 Sep 2016 17:41:12
Part of the joy of supporting Celtic is the looking forward in dread to our games no matter who we are playing in what competition . Dreading the outcome makes the winning result all the more welcome .

30 Sep 2016 17:21:16
Spot on Kev, unfortunately some supporters prefer to come on and have a go at commons or Gordon or whoever when times are good. Some people are never happy.

29 Sep 2016 23:58:16
dembelle is a star in his own right trhoops plx don't pair the bhoy with away one let him flurish under paradise lights. hailhail. the celts are back coybig x.