Celtic Banter Archive October 30 2016

 

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30 Oct 2016 22:27:38
Hi Ed, not Celtic related but know you have a bit of knowledge on kodi. Just got a box and going to install Wookie but not sure what build is good for getting Celtic tv and movies. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Cheers

COYBIG.

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{Ed007's Note - DCSports on is the place to be for Celtic fans mate, live streams and plenty of other content for us Tims. It's right there on the WOOKIE main page as well. Any problems give me a shout.}

31 Oct 2016 05:00:25
Guys I have a firestick which I had Dc sports on but is now not working what box would you suggest I buy to fix this?

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31 Oct 2016 08:59:07
I was having a lot of grief recently Kerzo1888, what I had to do was update SportsDevil and DC Sports and now it's back to working great again.

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31 Oct 2016 10:06:36
Thanks Kevbhoy I'll give that a go today.

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31 Oct 2016 23:24:50
I had a lot of problems with DC Sports and SportsDevil and couldn't get it working until I saw this Video. Works perfect now, If you have preblems try reinstalling sportsdevil through this repo.

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30 Oct 2016 20:17:01
ED007 apologies if you have already posted this and I missed it.
But I hope your family's sponsored walk reached the target you were aiming for. and good on Moneypenny and her family for trying to make a difference.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm sure I put a post up thanking everyone but if I didn't I apologise but they totally smashed it, Tim. The donations from the sites ended up at £765 thanks to you and others generosity, and the women raised over £500 between themselves.}

30 Oct 2016 18:57:46
Defo won't go for £40m but think he will be scotlands first £20m player english sides alwiz state there taking a gamble buying players for £10m from up here i. e koeman on mnf last season abt VVD but what celtic have in there favour to counter this all recent players we have sold to teams down there have done well recently VVD soton POTY last season wanayama moved to spurs and forster broke there clean sheet record last year plus moussa awready has experience playing down there so agree with the other poster celtic hold the cards here and shouldn't be fooled into a team doen there undervalueing him because he comes from scottish football no less than £20m with the usual 10/ 15% sell on fees imo.

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31 Oct 2016 01:17:19
I will never speculate on any of of our better players leaving . Only encourages them or their agents who no doubt would read Celtic's top forum and agents in particular may twist anything we post to upset our players .

With top players I keep my head well down in the sand but I would humbly suggest that Ambrose, Commons and Boyata are available in a job lot or individually at a reduced price to a good home.

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31 Oct 2016 08:23:08
He should be listening to those around him and people like Zizou. Not thinking about jumping at the first Southampton that comes along. Stay here and develop, look at somebody like Henke, and when he's ready move on to a really top side. It will all come down to the club's resolve though.

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30 Oct 2016 17:01:05
Given (1) big Eric the Viking got the man of the match award yesterday and (2) Jozo didn't put a foot wrong and (3) Toures two howlers against BMG the last time out I don't think he deserves to play against them in away leg but have a feeling our man st the helm Brendan will recall him. 🍀.

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30 Oct 2016 17:17:26
Well Rodgers has already said Toure will play against BMG.

In the last match against them, apart from his wayward pass that caused us a goal, I thought he played extremely well. I know some people blame him for the other goal as well but I thought he did the right thing and it was really good play by the BMG player to get round him and hook it back into play.

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30 Oct 2016 17:35:12
We wouldn't have made it out championship league without toure.

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30 Oct 2016 17:49:30
The big shout is dropping Eric or Jozo on current form versus unquestionable experience of Toure and I remain of the opinion that if Toure isn't complacent on two occasions the game finishes 0-0 and Celtic take a point. But RabMac that's why they made Brendan the manager and no me brother 🍀.

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30 Oct 2016 18:06:33
He's been absolutely fantastic apart from that game in my eyes. A standout in the final qualifiers and the City game.

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30 Oct 2016 18:16:57
Agreed Kev he's definitely an organiser at the back and reads the game well but he always looks too cool for school for me and capable of having an Ambrose moment 🍀.

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30 Oct 2016 18:33:10
Maybe he will surprize them and play all three, pack the midfield and play dembele and griff up front .

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30 Oct 2016 20:02:38
He maybe play the 3 now that tierney is out.

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30 Oct 2016 22:11:54
Big kolo will have a point to prove on Tuesday
I reckon he will start.

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31 Oct 2016 01:25:35
I didn't know Brendan had said he would pick Toure . I read today where Brendan said that he had no doubt that Toure was ready to play if selected .
I don't care whether he picks him or not, my mind is not clear on which two I would prefer from Toure Jozo and Eric . It would only be after the match that I would have any idea of the best two and by then my opinion would be even more useless than now .
I think the 3 of them could make a great back three but I would hate him to go with them as they haven't had nearly enough time to work on playing that system.

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30 Oct 2016 16:43:39
I know it's early but where do people think we should or could strengthen in January I can't see us making much noise the squad we have is without doubt the strongest it's been in years.

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30 Oct 2016 17:04:40
Gordo-While he's been superb this season we need cover for Brown big time in fact it might be better to say we need to sign the next Broonie and have Scot there as cover given the stage of his career 🍀.

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30 Oct 2016 17:53:25
If it was only one player to come in I would strengthen CM.

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30 Oct 2016 20:30:54
Based on what Rodgers said before end of last transfer window, I am assuming that a CM is still his top priority. As mentioned on this site James McCarthy could be top of the list.

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{Ed001's Note - 100% that is his first choice priority signing that he wants.}

30 Oct 2016 21:08:19
Will Brebdan get him Edd01?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know, it all comes down to finance as the lad is surplus at Everton.}

30 Oct 2016 21:39:19
Any idea of Everton's asking price? I am guessing minimum 10 million as his contract is not up until 2020 and they paid around 12 million for him.

As much as I would love McCarthy at Celtic, I would not pay anymore than 6 million for him, as I reckon we could get someone just as good or better from a different league, who is also younger and thus has better sell on value.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know the price, there are too many little things that can affect it to make it worthwhile worrying about, to be honest.}

30 Oct 2016 22:40:20
What age is McCarthy?, he can't be that old, would love him to come to Celtic, but if money is what motivates him, he'd be better staying down sarf.

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{Ed007's Note - He turns 26 next month.}

31 Oct 2016 01:31:41
He was at Hampden on the 23rd and I don't think he was supporting the New Club .
He doesn't appear to play well for the ROI, but if Brendan Rodgers had him here he maybe be able to use him in a way that uses his strengths and good points well and get more out of him .
I think if we do get him he will know that leaving the EPL and coming to the SPL will probably finish his career in the EPL and hopefully that will encourage him to perform at his highest level.

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30 Oct 2016 14:15:58
Just watching the Everton game and must say that Barkley reminds me of Rogic. He is big, strong, skillful, good at bursting forward and has a good shot.

With this in mind and Barkley being valued at 30-40 million, I wonder how much Rogic must be worth as he is every bit as good as Barkley.

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30 Oct 2016 15:09:38
It's not really about how good Rogic is though RabMac. It's the fact that Everton make so much money from TV that they can afford to knock back a £20/ 30M bid and say if you want him you'll pay the £40M because £20/ 30M doesn't make that much difference to them. Whereas no matter how good a player is for us we realistically can't afford to turn down that kind of money due to our financial constraints. Think of what we could do with an extra £30M to invest in the club infrastructure as well as the playing staff. The player is worth what the buying club is willing to pay, or better yet, what the selling club can afford to turn down.

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30 Oct 2016 16:01:51
I agree that Celtic will have a valuation for every player and if someone comes in and meets it then the chances are we will sell. As you rightly point out 10 million upwards is a massive amount for us.

However, I am still curious to what the valuation for Rogic would be. My guess is we value him at minimum of 8 million, probably higher given the fact that he is a creative player and they tend to sell for more.

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30 Oct 2016 16:22:49
If he could last 90 minutes I reckon we'd get about £10 or 12 million for him. But he's an outstanding talent and BR seems to be getting the best out of him. I hope he stays here for a while longer.

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30 Oct 2016 19:47:00
tom rogic the guy who is absolutely knackered after running for 5 minutes as good as ross Barkley? oh my next you will be saying Bitton is as good paul Scholes.

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30 Oct 2016 20:12:13
He's no joey barton is he cee?

You would rip the arm off for a player valued above 5m if you sold him it would give you enough cash to last till may.

Spending your free time trolling celtic forums speaks volumes about you.

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30 Oct 2016 20:36:29
@Cee - Tom Rogic is worth more than your entire team.

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30 Oct 2016 21:26:22
His bumcheeks are worth more than that pub team.

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31 Oct 2016 01:40:09
Cee Bitton is far better than Paul Scholes, to the best of my knowledge Scholes hasn't kicked a ball professionally for a couple of seasons .
There is only one club in these islands that would discuss the value of players of Paul Scholes age and that is the wee club in Govan who is living from month to month on loans and signs over the hill Clint Hill, Senderos who is on a go slow and Barton who is a fantastic fully paid holiday and many more almost 40 year olds .

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30 Oct 2016 12:09:55
Reading what Rodgers has said about Commons - and how he has implied that he has no future - I really feel he is treating someone who has been a great player for and servant to the club in a terrible way. He says about his fitness but I take issue with this: Rogic, much as I like him, is virtually guaranteed not to finish the game and has very little pace. So why could Commons not perform a similar role, be it from the start or the bench? I think we are missing a trick by not even giving the guy a chance.

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30 Oct 2016 12:23:16
What would commons added this season like
Top of the league unbeaten
League done before November
Champions league qualified
First cup final reached
As long as this continues then he manager is right.
Now every manager has his own ideas and ants his own players
How can anyone say commons has been treated bad either
From what I have read the manager has been truthful with commons and ever other player he isn't see in his plans.
How is that treating him bad?

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30 Oct 2016 12:59:32
As far as I know Rogic hasbeen a model professional . Commons has been a disrespective influence and should have been shown the door a year ago. You won't build a team with a self centred thug in it.

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30 Oct 2016 13:04:22
We'd be better of without him.

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30 Oct 2016 13:04:22
What could Commons add? Well he is the only true replacement like for like for Rogic, who we all know can't last 90.
I seem to remember Commons getting pelters on here over his fitness, Rogic doesn't get it. Also Commons lasted 90 mins, we are just seeing the benefit of having Izzy due to KTs injury.
What do we do if Rogic is injured.

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30 Oct 2016 13:48:31
Can someone tell me what is it commons has actually done? I read mention of him being disruptive etc but I've never heard this?

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30 Oct 2016 14:09:43
Old Bhoy you really take the biscuit, explain to me why commons is a THUG, you came on here and slated some one for saying Gamboa was'nt very good and no one should slate our players, then YOU call one of them a thug, unbelievable.

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30 Oct 2016 14:24:16
I think we will try and offload Commons in January if anyone is interested.

Rodgers has already stated that he won't play him, so it makes sense to sell and free up a decent wage and reduce the size of our squad.

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{Ed007's Note - With only 6 months left on his deal come January just pay him up and free him never mind trying to get any money for him.}

30 Oct 2016 14:50:33
You know what Lawwell is like, would not surprise me if he gets 500K for him in January lol.

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30 Oct 2016 20:13:16
Who in the team would he replace?

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30 Oct 2016 20:37:08
If he were to come he would be competing with Tierney for LB slot.

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31 Oct 2016 01:51:24
Commons public reaction to been substituted towards the end of an European game last season was that of a low life thug . I can understand a player been disappointed at been substituted but it is accepted in the game that a player can only show so much in public . Any normal person, who was near the prolonged incident, in the stand or watching on tv would have no doubt Commons rage was excessive and I have no doubt went a long way towards R D loosing " the dressing room " .
I am of an age that the manager or boss is always right, and because he/ she holds that position the least a player or employee can do is show his dissent in private .
I am surprise that the Board let him get away with it because what he did was not only disrespectful to R D but also to the whole club fans and all.

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31 Oct 2016 06:01:28
Commons has scored just shy of 100 goals for the club, been player of the year in Scotland and has proved his worth time and again. He is one of our most creative players and yet has not even been named as a sub either in cup games or when wholesale changes were made in the league. I think not even giving him a chance is treating him very badly after all he has done. Some people have very short memories. To mention the successes so far this season and ask what could have been better would imply you are happy to rest on your laurels - would you be content if de vries was still in goal and we continuing to ship goals but winning or would you highlight where you believe there could be improvements? And for calling him a thug, you either show a total lack of understanding of the word or have an underlying bias that you are unable to overlook.

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31 Oct 2016 07:29:50
Hows he been treated badly?
hes still getting a wage and I could almost guarantee he was told by BR his position at the club ages ago.

I'm always greatful for his service and the goals he's left some good memories but KC has no place in our team. None of the midfield or forward players deserve to be dropped in place of him and could anyone honestly say they miss him in the team.

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31 Oct 2016 11:33:09
By not being given a chance!

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31 Oct 2016 13:49:38
Not been given a chance?
Jesus the previous 2 managers had issues with KC and he still got game time I'm not sure many others would have got the same chances.
He also trains with the first team that's his chance to show what he can do.

He doesn't fit into system it's as simple as that.
There isn't a single player in that team that deserves to be dropped in place of KC I think the majority of us would agree that.

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31 Oct 2016 17:16:53
He has been a problem where ever he has played . He wants to put an "I" into team and Brendan Rodgers knows only too well, to keep him at a distance or he would be trying to put B R out of a job too.

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31 Oct 2016 21:59:01
Jesus - so when has Rodgers given him a chance in the team? And in what way is Rogic - who, before I am accused of anything, really like as a player but can't finish a game - more mobile, fitter or even more of a goal threat than Commons? Sure, start with Rogic, but rather than bringing on someone like Bitton, why not go for a similar style of player: someone attaching, creative and likely to score or have a major hand in a goal, LIKE COMMONS? I think naming 24 instead of 25 in the European squad and leaving him out was snub that he is totally undeserving of.

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01 Nov 2016 00:29:41
You are talking out your arse as usual old bhoy the guy has been fantastic for Celtic.

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30 Oct 2016 11:28:12
With the way things are going would anyone early be desperate to make signings in the January transfer window?
Yes if the right player becomes available but wouldn't be to fussed waiting to the summer one myself.

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30 Oct 2016 11:47:17
I would like to see one or two come in to bed in for next years champions league attempt but only if they are a class above what we've got already.

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30 Oct 2016 13:00:59
The only players we want are probably two classes above what we currently have.

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30 Oct 2016 13:05:58
The 1 position that sticks out for me is C Mid next to Brown.
If we could get another dynamic energetic midfielder like him I would be over the moon.

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30 Oct 2016 13:19:44
Although we don't get any of the CL money until end of season, we will have made a fair few million just from match day revenue and attendances in the 3 CL games at Celtic Park. This fact coupled with the fact that we always seem to buy 1-2 players of note each January, suggests that we will spend in January if the right player is available to us.

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30 Oct 2016 14:54:35
Rayman99 I would ikebana to see Armstrong make that position his own and maybe henderson push to replace brown when he time comes.

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30 Oct 2016 16:58:14
Kev I like Armstrong and Hendo mate but I don't think they can take us to the next level.

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31 Oct 2016 01:54:03
This is the season that we should be able to test fully players like Armstrong GMS McGregor and to a lesser extent Henderson and Christie.

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31 Oct 2016 09:10:25
I disagree rayman. Armstrong has everything in his locker to have he same effect and success that cotton brown has had at celtic.

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30 Oct 2016 09:20:30
Never seen the game yesterday but just watched some highlights. We played well and although it was 1 nil it could and should have been 4 or 5 just need to put away the chances.

It looked like Aberdeen were putting themselves about a bit, tackles were not in short supply.
A wins a win just need to continue the good form and hopefully add another quality player or two in the Jan window.

HH.

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30 Oct 2016 11:21:43
I think a few naughty tackles went unpunished, but we stood up well and kept our heads. On another day its 3 or 4 nil easily. By mcinnes reckoning of turning up for the last 5 mins they should have won. He is attempting to motivate his players for what could potentially be the most one sidedfinal. If we take our chances it will be just that hopefully, just a shame KT will miss it.

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30 Oct 2016 13:11:23
On the live chat yesterday there was quite a bit of chat about MacInnes. The guy is a drivelling buffoon. The more and more we beat them the more bitter he is getting. Hoping he is a bit more bitter at the end of next month.

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30 Oct 2016 14:56:50
I was talking to my rangers supporting gaffer and some of hem fancy him to be their next manager.
I said I hope so.
He laughed when I said you'd be better with the guy fae st Johnstone.

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30 Oct 2016 08:35:54
I noticed Andrew Robertson is out of contract in the summer and Izzy is out of contract then as well, which means we will need a new LB.

Do you think there is any chance of signing Robertson?

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30 Oct 2016 12:00:42
Have said this already and been shot down, However i agree with you excellent back up increases our options on the left side. Also for anyone who is old enough to remember John Hewitt who Sir Alex said was the best young player he ever worked with but he burned him out playing him too much to early a mistake he learned from and did not make with Scoles, Giggs and Beckham and others. You may not like the comparrison but you cannot doubt the wisdom even if you don't like where it is coming from, look at the Quality St kids and how many games they played early in there career Big Jock seldom played them for more than 2 or 3 games at a time and rarely all together.

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{Ed007's Note - Andrew Robertson isn't out of contract, Hull have a years option on his deal and they are negotiating an extension - he's also out injured for 2-3 months. So why are you finding this so difficult to understand when it's straight forward enough?
Hull were quoting teams £12/13 million last summer and will be looking for £10 million at least this summer even if he doesn't sign the extension. There is absolutely zero chance of Celtic signing Robertson.
I'm not even going to bother explaining why your point about the Utd players is garbage except go and look at how many games per season they played. Giggs played over 50 games for Utd when he was 18 for a start.}

30 Oct 2016 12:26:15
To ensure honest but I think he will stay down south.
If we could get him I would though.
Having to great young left backs pushing each other and competing for the Jersey would be good for the team.

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30 Oct 2016 13:26:14
Ed, do you not think he will want to leave if Hull get relegated? I know he didn't last time they went down but he had only been there for a season when that happened.

I know it would be a long shot getting him, but speaking hypothetically, how much do you think he would want in wages?

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{Ed007's Note - Even if he wants to leave Hull they will want a hefty fee paid as basically he has a year to run on his current deal - there's no way Hull won't take up that option. It's rumoured he's on £22-25k a week already so I'd expect him to be looking at £35-40k a week from Hull and even more if he is sold on as there will be no shortage of offers from EPL clubs.
Can you see Celtic spending £10 million + costs and £35k a week at least on Tierney's understudy?}

30 Oct 2016 14:12:04
That is a fair point regarding a high wage for a squad player. Do you think we will offer Izzy another deal then? Or do you think we will sign a backup left back at end of season when Izzy's contract expires?

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{Ed007's Note - With KT out injured Izaguirre has a perfect chance to play his way to extending his current deal imo, Rab, if he's happy to be a squad player that is.}

30 Oct 2016 06:30:16
Dunno if it's just me who thinks it but when BR bought De Vries a while ago it seems he also got a new keeper in Craig Gordon.
Still prone to the occasional blunder but by and large his game has improved immensely. HH.

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30 Oct 2016 08:14:08
Thought that myself brendan signing devries and dropping Gordon was a masterstroke and the boot up the arse he needed.

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30 Oct 2016 08:59:19
Mally-Motivating Craig Gordon may have been the outcome but I think you're re-writing history there brother with respect to the initial intention. I think De Vries was a failed experiment and Brendan's biggest mistake. Main thing though is CG has risen to the challenge and is a top class keeper and an excellent shot stopper. 🍀.

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30 Oct 2016 09:02:56
The occasional blunder? He's had a blunder every other game so far this season. He can't control his 6 yard box Saturdays game he couldn't pick pass further than 5 meters. When he does decide to come for the ball he's either going to lunge at someone or completely fluff it up. First and for most he's a keeper his job is to save the ball he does that some times and some of his "great saves" are his over reacting dives and falls to the ground.

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30 Oct 2016 11:26:27
I don't understand the need to criticise our players and see the negative when our team is UNBEATEN in the league, into a final and still in Europe, and totally dominating the sevconians. Everyone is entitled to opinions, can't we just enjoy what we are seeing at the moment instead of finding fault after evety match. Just saying.

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30 Oct 2016 12:28:26
Gordon has definitely raised his game since he got back in the team
But saying that a top class goalkeeper should be a priority signing soon.

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30 Oct 2016 12:59:28
6 clean sheets in last 6 domestic games and had Toure not blundered twice it would most likely have been another in the champions league as well.

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30 Oct 2016 13:10:23
Toprig last 5 domestic games 5 clean sheets, every keeper makes mistakes even the best did you see the Euros in the summer.
I said at the time when the very best goalies were palming shots out only for striker to net it at least CG in great company as they all do it.

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30 Oct 2016 22:21:05
It's called good management dropped boot up the arse and he comes back a better keeper bit like deila constantly playing Armstrong on the left wing and he's struggling but BR starts playing him in the middle and now we have a player good management.

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