Celtic Banter Archive November 30 2011

 

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30 Nov 2011 22:31:22
Alright ed007 ?
I hope your chuckle muscle hasn't dried up and dropped off tonight.
Keep smiling eh ?
The Real Ken Dodd ;-) {Ed007's Note - Been a poor night mate, I couldn't believe that Utd team tonight. You know my chuckle muscle is legendary up here :-)

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30 Nov 2011 21:32:18
Just saw a replay of the goal, Kayal had a good game however that was poor show - man up!

Miko

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How can you see a replay at this time Miko? Did you record the game on your Beta Max video recorder? Lol brilliant psml.
See ya lol
FF81

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Are you serious Percy? You're havin a shocker tonight!

You're making a clown of yourself, saying that you watch 11 at Ipox every other week, it's obviously had an impact on you. lol.

Miko

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Lol, see you also p*ssed yourself there FF, it's PMSL, not PSML........ya donk! lol

Ahhhhh, the banter!

Miko

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30 Nov 2011 21:30:19
seems whyte was barred after all from being a director any appology to bbc from rangers supporters? no.... {Ed007's Note - What about my apology :-)
That pesky £18 million debt is still there as well!!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15976000

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I thought aluko payed that?

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30 Nov 2011 21:21:11
Happy with the bhoys tonight. It was one of those games thst could just as easily have been 3-3 rather than 1-0 but at the end of the day this is a team that spent £35m on a single player! On a negative note, Ki was rotten and has been for a few months. Poor decision making and poor delivery.
Kevbhoy

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30 Nov 2011 21:12:48
right yous always go on about if jelavic got injured what would rangers do for goals so am gonna ask yous the same question what would yous do without Hooper and stokes if they got injured i think yous would be quite jiggered yourselfs to be honest not on here to start arguments just asking for a truthful answer

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Well we do have Samaras - Mrs E ;~)

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Bangura, samaras, rasmussen out on loan, we have options mate u have hemmings and kerker and co

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Its not really the same. The point is that we have two 20+ goals-a-season strikers so we have cover if one gets injured. If jelavic gets injured rangers dont have anybody else

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Mrs E, did your tounge not leave a bruse in your cheek after that reply!! :o) badboybob

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There is a difference, Jelevic is a single point of failure wheras we have both hooper and stokes that would need to be injured and even then we have samaras (whos every bit as good as laugharty) or bangura who I agree is unproven but Lenny hasn't done to bad with his signings so give this boy time

again just my opinion

JGD

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Are you back BBB...where have you been ? - Mrs E

No bruise on my cheek

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Samaras who has scored 1 goal all season bangura hasn't scored yet Rasmussen who is that i actually forgot yous had him hes that pish plus bangura injured to anyway so yous haven't got any options if thay two get injured {Ed007's Note - So you post the original question saying you were not on here to start arguments, you get decent answers and then you come out with this? Get a grip of yourself fool.}

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Haha, ed007 says it all in that 1word, fool :-)

Night all

JGD {Ed007's Note - Night mate.}

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Well we could always buy a striker or 2 in the January transfer window in a few weeks, I think its been in the newspapers that Celtic have been linked to a few (all rumours of course). Meantime, Samaras will have to do - Mrs E

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You cant say samaras is a better "goal scorer" than lafferty. goals per game game sort that one out. jammy dodger {Ed007's Note - Is he playing two games for everyone that Samaras does?}

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Am no a fool i asked a question they replied and i answered it back don't bother calling me a fool your a bit below the belt there ed that's what you are a wasn't coming on to start any argument i was coming on to have a conversation that's it and before you start moaning about am a nameless poster i forgot to put my name in so i will put it in just in case you think am coming on here for the wind up it was a serious question if i was bang out of order there i would have admitted it but a wasn't

Campbell {Ed007's Note - You asked a question, got answers for it and then answered it yourself at the the end? Seems a bit foolish to ask a question then proceed to answer it, you obviously had your mind made up before setting question and just wanted to get that in. People told you what they would do, that is all you asked. What would Rangers do if Jelavic got injured, play Healy??}

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Right fair enough ed if i have a question next time get a reply then i will just leave it at that then or if i come on and start a conversatation i wont come out with reply s like that so i apoligise if i annoyed anybody but am not a fool {Ed007's Note - You could have just said your opinion on our options in your OP, it would have been more constructive and not came across as you fishing for opinions before lambasting the answers. That would been a more mature approach. I think we will leave the jury out on the 'fool' for now though ;-)

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I'm sorry ed please forgive my brash arrogant ways


Campbell {Ed007's Note - See, it's so much better when you play nice.}

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Ed007 frankie cockoza scored more times than samaras this year! {Ed007's Note - Jammy dodger said Kylie had a better goals per game game ratio, if he is playing in 2 games for everyone that Samaras is I would like to think he would have.}

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Ed 007 if its just goals you want then id have laff all the time im defo not saying hes great but we do get a goal ratio from him and some decent goals at that and i think they have more or less the same game time just my opinion although when "they" are bad they both are piss poor jammydodger {Ed007's Note - Mate I was being sarcastic with your typo of saying game twice. I have had it out before I don't rate Kylie, if he wasn't a 'Rangers' man he would be getting pelters like Samaras has. If I was a Rangers fan I would have one Naismith rather than two Kylie Laughertys in my team any day (I mean as an extra man!!!!!!}

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Fat fingers Ed007 lol {Ed007's Note - I believe you :-) this time.}

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Just been on wiki and done the maths

Laffer Ranger carrer 29 in 96 games 30%
Sammy Celtic carrer 34 om 110 game 31%

Laffer total carrer 42 in 188 games 22%
Sammy total carrer 67 in 253 games 26%

That that one put to bed I hope

David

PS how sad am I?

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30 Nov 2011 20:30:01
Ed007 was therw a rn my reply to DD wasn't posted {Ed007's Note - Who are you? What a complete idiotic question. Obviously there was a reason but seeing I have no clue who you are I can't answer that.}

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Ed00 I asked the 'idiotic question' and as i leave a name in the name field i thought you could see this although i didnt leave me identifier of JGD but as i said i was of the impression that you could see the name.

I apologise if the question seemed 'idiotic' to you but i was just trying to understand why it hadent been posted but since i sent the question my rsply did get posted I guess i was just a bit impationent but i certainly dont think i deserved theresponce i got nor the mannor {Ed007's Note - We only see your name if it is in the e-mail field as a tag. I assumed you were just one of the nameless posters. You have my apologises JGD.}

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Thank you ed007, just seems to have been some misunderstanding on my part and my posts do seem a bit incohearent but that is due to the fact I am using my phone!

Keep up the great work :-)

JGD {Ed007's Note - Cheers mate, I see your tag now.}

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Ed you are asking me to give my head a shoogle but you apologise to JDG lmao what is he talking about? You honestly don't know do you? Lol
FF81 {Ed007's Note - I didn't know it was him that asked the question lol. It will be a cold day in Hell before you get an apology out of me FF81 ;-)

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FF81 I agree that you need to give your head a shoogle and maybe you can get my name correct ;-)

JGD

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Lmao Ed. But what was the question JGD was asking? I've read the post through again plus gave my head another shoogle but still can't understand the question. Lol
FF81 {Ed007's Note - He was asking why his answer to DD wasn't posted. I didn't know who he was at the time, he never signed off.}

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30 Nov 2011 20:08:40
Ach not too shabby a performance...will we win in Italy ? The way we were playing at beginning of season, I never thought we'd get a point in the group never mind 5.

Hope they continue in the league & a win on Sunday at Dundee Utd. No doubt my vodka & Kalms will be back out Ed - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - Everybody wrote us off in this group, but even if we go out we have given a good account of ourselves overall, earned some extra income and the players have gained some European experience. I'm happy :-)

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Mr Bluenose in my house did as well, not in a having a go at Celtic way..just that it looked more like a Champions League group than Europa. Obviously if we'd beat an eligible Sion team, we wouldn't have been in that group but we've held our own. - Mrs E

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30 Nov 2011 19:59:53
I wish some celtic fans would catch a grip of themselves. Kayal covered some amount of ground tonight and ran his legs off. Awrite he maybe should have headed the boys shot but for me he made up for it with his work rate. The guy Lenny who's giving it he didn't look interested obviously watched a diferent game from me.

DD

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Agreed...i though Kayal was good tonight ! Last we needed was that ball to take his head off and cause another injury, he just reacted (as you do). - Mrs E

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Kayal done a power of running tonite,thought forster could have done better at the goal as well,need to have a better look at it again,beat by a better side tonite,poor goal to lose and never really recovered,played well until we lost a soft goal.

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DD thats your opinion and you are entiteled to have it juat as lenny is entitled to his.
My opinikn is that just because he runs a lot doesn't mean he's had a good game. Ido think he did ok, as rhe whole team did, nothing more nothing less.

For me Ki looke out of place from kick off but i completely inderstand why Lennon did it but, for me it just didnt work but at least we wont have to play that quality every week or probably again this season.

JGD

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DD if Kayal wouldn't have ducked out of that shot my £2 coupon would still be going strong lol. Stevie Smith when playing for Rangers ducked out of a shot in an Old Firm game that caused a goal 6 months later he wasn't at the club because Ally McCoist Slaughtered him in the paper then took over with Walter Smith not long after. I'm not saying Lennon is going to get shot of Kayal but he won't be pleased that's for sure.
FF81 {Ed007's Note - So what is your point? WS and McCoist got rid of a player because of something he done when they weren't even at the club? Give your head a shoogle FF81, that is one of the worst posts from you I have seen mate.}

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DD my only point is ki not kayal doesn't look intrested. Alot of people think ki can't live upto the hype of these kinda games.

Kayal played his heart out but after making statements like todays back papers then that happens... All the same everyone done well even big sammy

Win lose or draw either way we have/are making 5 million from this so as long as the league games don't cost us then it's all good

Any news on how bad ledley & wanayana are ?

Lenny

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My point is if he never ducked out of that shot my coupon would still be going strong lol. Don't hold it against me because I had a bad post. We are all Human. It just brought back memories of the time Smith turned his back on a shot in an old firm game that's all. It's just a reaction by some players to duck out of it.
Ff81 {Ed007's Note - Kayal would have been better just turning his back. From one of the angles I thought it did look as if he had tried to head it, it looked as if he flicked his head as if expecting to make contact, but the other angles shows that wasn't the case. It was poor, surely he must have thought it was going out??}

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Lol, totally pointless Percy! Well played Follow "stop calling me names or I'm telling Ed" Follow81 - more dross!

Just back from the game and I thought we had a decent first half. Second half Atletico raised their game and there defo appeared to be a difference in class. Thought we also tended to stand off them a bit, Kayal apart, however pleased overall.

Think Sami also deserves a mention again, he seems like a different player when he moves the ball on quicker and shows a bit more urgency.

We were chasing shadows at times, however they're no Malmo or Maratimo! Any chances of an Italian Job?

Miko

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Miko did you just post you were at the game tonight? I always thought you were a story teller But now I know after that post lol.
FF81

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Stop berating me FF81 or I'll tell Ed on you! lol, ya donk!

Miko

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Haha FF81, see you were the only person that disagreed with my earlier post, a feeble attempt at trying to save face, lol. Sad little loser! lol.

Miko (smarter than the average Bear and way smarter than feeble feeble81)

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30 Nov 2011 19:56:19
Antone asking who Brown would replace in the team then the simple answer is Ki. this is not on the basis of tonight but on his performaces in the last couple of months. just my opinion

JGD

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30 Nov 2011 19:25:29
Who's kenny dagleish looking at tonight, I would say kayal? Ki?

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I very much doubt it will be a Celtic player.

Gerry The Ger.

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Maybe not gerry but there is one thing for sure if it is a player that plays in european compition it wont be a rangers player ;-)

JGD

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Wow great comeback lol. Originality is obviously not your strong point. Plus, dying minutes of the game and you're on here replying to me, Celtic must be keeping you really entertained.

Gerry The Ger.

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Night night Celtic fans, better luck next time. Hope you get a result against Udinese.

Gerry The Ger.

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Why would it NOT be a Celtic player GTG ? - Mrs E

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Gerry the ger at least we can enjoy the european experince plus pick up cash unlike use away to germany just to play HAMBURGERS, 2 hamburgers and cheese to them and 1 to use pmsl stef1967

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PMSL? You seem to do that quite a lot stef1967, you must've caught it off Miko lol.

I honestly don't think there is a Celtic player anywhere near good enough to play for Liverpool at the moment Mrs E. Not that there is one at Ibrox at the moment either.

Gerry The Ger.

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Oh I don't know..Liverpool have Danny Wilson, I would say Adam Matthews is just as good (if not better ) & a couple of yrs younger. Then there's my precious James Forrest. - Mrs E

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Forrest has potential Mrs E no doubt about it, i don't rate Matthews though. As good as Danny Wilson was at Ibrox he's not Premiership class yet. Needs to get away from Liverpool and get some game time.

Gerry The Ger.

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GTG? Gerry Talks Guff! lol. Listen Percy, Maribor and Malmo, the two worst teams in European competition this season, need I say more?

Now toddle off back to the tax evader's site, lol.

Miko x

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I think Matthews does alright for a 19yr old & he's playing regular now for Wales. All kidding aside, I hope it wasn't forrest he was watching. Ki - he can have him. - Mrs E

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30 Nov 2011 18:38:59
Omg captain of our team ducks from that ! Come on ! Aye it will be a sore face but thats why your getting X grand a week.

Looked really good so far until that went in, expect ki don't know if it's just me but seems like he's not intrested only go for the ball if it's only 5 yard radius next to him

Lenny

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Broony would have put his face in the way :@

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30 Nov 2011 18:09:25
Hi ed, I'm fed up to the back teeth of Celtic players shouting their mouths off in the papers about how Celtic are a much better team than the other lot! Sammi did it 2 years ago and look what happened. Commons came out with we're younger,fitter,better last season and look what happened and now Kayal is shouting his mouth off! I wish the players would shut up and do their talking on the pitch! What do you guys think?

Barrybhoy

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This is just Paper Talk . Reporter asks Player "Who do you think has the better Players /Squad ?" - player replies "Celtic" - There's your Headlines !

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30 Nov 2011 17:34:51
any1 any links 4 game 2nite?

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30 Nov 2011 17:27:21
let me be the first , lol and prob the only to wish celtic luck (u'll need it) for tongiht ... a spanish scalp will do wonders for the co-eff and help the respect of scottish football. all the best ya scabby lot lol !

Germinator

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Thanks Germ - Mrs E

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Well done and thanks germinator if we had more like you then ( on both sides ) then people may have more positivity about our clubs

anyway my prediction for tonight is 2-1 Celtic, c'mon the hoops

JGD

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Plus they are priced at 2/1 to win or 11/5 the draw. Come on you bhoys. Lol
FF81

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30 Nov 2011 17:06:02
Celtic team: Forster, Matthews, Majstorovic, Loovens, Ledley, Wanyama, Kayal, Ki, Forrest Samaras, Stokes

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30 Nov 2011 16:19:07
Anyone know any decent links for the game tonight?
Cheers

Gazcfc21

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Firstrowsports m8 mon the hoops,stef1967

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Uefa .com live streaming cost 6
csc on tour

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30 Nov 2011 16:06:41
better players, better team better football .... a few posters goin on about these comments .. one poster saying that gers play poorer football than killie etc ....

Gers have been playing the best football for 3 yrs now ... there can be no arguements .... the best team wins the league its one of the only times u can state FACT lol.

What people seem to struggle to differentiate is the difference between good football and attractive football ..... football doesnt have to be attractive to be good ! the most effective way of playing is the best football ... defending is just as much an art as attacking the "best" team wins simple.

Germinator

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Gers have been playing the best football for 3 yrs now ... there can be no arguements .... the best team wins the league its one of the only times u can state FACT

Pi5h son, Celtic have played the better football since Lenny took over, you may have won the league but only by playing boring football.

DazzaBhoy

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Stupid argument. Did Chelsea play the best football when they were winning under the chosen one. What about Arsenal under Graham. Winning does not make you the best footballing team.

David

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30 Nov 2011 14:46:17
I hope the Celtic defence do not make any stupid mistakes like they did the last time they played Athletico Madrid,it will be intersting to see if they have learned how to defend corners and free kicks,hope the ref does not get conned by the Madrid players play acting,Com on the Hoops.

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30 Nov 2011 14:03:36
miko likes winding people up but he doesn't want to take it back well son it doesn't work that way you can give it out all you want but see when we give back and you don't like it tuff luck because knowbody will stop because it is called a banter site and if you don't like that your propabley better looking for another site

Campbell

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30 Nov 2011 13:49:13
Neil lennon made scott brown celtic captain for a reason
Now ism sure he doesnt want to lose him. If hes signed his part of the contract then we should give his fat greedy wee agent what he wants or lose him lenny made him skippper
cmon board get finger out

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I smell sh,,e here ........DH

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30 Nov 2011 13:27:01
Have a wee read at this Ed, bhoys and ghirls.

johndcgow.com/2011/11/30/deliberately-narrowing-the-definition-of-sectarianism/

Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - One sided nonsense IMO.}

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Ed , I got sent this to me this morning. Just thought I would share it.
Ff81

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Cant read it ... site is blocked in my work ...whats it about ?

Germinator {Ed007's Note - Sectarianism.}

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Just wasted 5 mins reading utter garbage agree with ED too one sided.........DH

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Germinator, it's giving 2 sides to sectarianism. Have a read when you get home mate.
Ff81

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Here is another one Ed.

www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/cartoon/brian_wilson_let_the_people_sing_yes_even_football_supporters_1_1988631#.TtWN3W52hrQ.twitter

Ff81

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Whats your take on that one Ed?
Ff81 {Ed007's Note - It's just the article that the initial one commented on, I have no great interest in what either of them have to say.}

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30 Nov 2011 12:43:07
I have to agree that brown deserves to stay his dig in the midfield is something we are missing.

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Agreeing with who , and who is going to drop out of team to cater for him and as for dig , what dig?...........DH

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30 Nov 2011 12:35:44
See that fellow Celts Ian and Lenny having a go at me over on the dark side.

Let's get one thing straight Percy's, I aint been hiding, I think others can vouch for me on here and I certainly aint gonna offer the likes of you 2 an explanation. I'll forgive you both for your indiscretions, don't let it happen again! lol

Miko x

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Where have you been for the last 25 days Miko? They are no need for the name calling. Lenny and Ian are just saying they are fed up with the same old. Then you gave them dogs abuse. I think you owe them an Apologie.
Ff81

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Miko as I have said on the other side you went into hiding when we were off the boil couple of wins and points droppped and you come running back.

Ian

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Lol Taxi for Miko, i actually yhink that some tic fans would be happy to see their team lose if it meant that u dissapeared again :oP

Germinator

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Ff 81, what name calling? You're a sensitive wee soul, aren't you?

You've noticed I've been away for 25 days? Were you counting the days ma darlin? x

Ian, ssshhhhhhhhhh! lol

Miko x

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Was it 25 days Miko? Lmao. So you did disappear when Celtic were going through that bad patch lol.
Ff81

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Miko the magician he can disapear and then reappear when thinks are looking better for Celtic.

Now Miko you be quiet or type something that is a little more constructive.

Ian

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Still not got an explanation of where you've been for the last month? Avoiding the question Miko?

Billyboy1

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4 points Billyboy, 4 points!

Miko

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30 Nov 2011 11:21:08
Beram Kayal is our captain he plays and trains with the squad every other day and if he thinks we've got the best players and best squad that's OK with me. Fed up with the childish press stirring things up every time an old firm player gives his honest opinion.......DH

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Wish the players would just shut up and keep their own counsel. Fed up with this, do they never learn?

Miko

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Miko love ya
Ff81

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Wait until we are over the finnishing line before making these statements,i remember Samaras saying something similar last year

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I know peeps x
Miko

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So did commons

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Jellyfish said the league was over when rangers were 12 points clear and that has come back to bite him in the arse

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What should he have said? We do have the best players, the best squad and play the best football.

We do miss a bit of dig, fight and work ethic, winning mentality etc.

By the way I don't think Rangers are even the second best fooballing team in Scotland the likes of Killie, St Mirren, St Johnstone and Motherwell are better to watch. But they are better than Hearts, Dunfermline and ICT.

Que the rage

David

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David you sure do get to watch a lot of football teams. Lol
Ff81

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Oh David being controversial...if Rangers want to pin it on their dressing room wall, thats fine. But I would also have it on ours to make sure Kayal lives up to his Heeadlines ! Actions always speak louder than words - Mrs E

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David you sure do get to watch a lot of football teams. Lol


I do. I've seen most of the SPL this season in the flesh like.

Playing good football does not mean winning games

David

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Ed...can you not save out blushes & fix spelling ?! I've got 2 'e's in 'Headlines' - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - Out blushes?? Tut Tut lol. We are not the spelling/grammar police Mrs E. I'm sure nobody even noticed till you said.}

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30 Nov 2011 11:04:03
why DONT our players keep their mouths shut do ur braggin at the end of the season look at commons last season that came back and bit hin in the arse

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On the big fat arse you forgot to put lol

Billyboy1

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30 Nov 2011 09:18:24
I know i sound the voice of doom & gloom at times but Kayal's in the Daily Record today with his big talk... 'Best Players in Scotland, Best Football in Scotland, 'Best squad in Scotland' - these kind of headlines make me nervous, he had better live up to his words - Mrs E

Happy St Andrews Day x

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Mrs E I for one was glad to see the comments being made could be the extra motiviation we need to get out our wee slump the same way that Jelavics comments seemed to come just afor celtic have been in more impressive form.

Germinator

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You can't help but feel its a curse when they say things like this...we have the might of Atletico to deal with tonight as well.

I'm just hoping he lives up to his words - Mrs E

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30 Nov 2011 09:49:07
Is Kayal missing the fact that we are top of the league and the champions?

R.I.P. Gary Speed.

ZiggyS75

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Only saw the back pages to not read into them but FFS I hate when any player from Celtic 'say' these things as it usually comes back & bites us. If it was may & we won the league then aye fair enough but just now it's just fuel for the fire for rangers

Lenny

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30 Nov 2011 09:00:08
Happy St Andrews Day Bhoys and Ghirls.

What do you think of the comments Kayal has made today? Every season one Celtic player comes out and says something that can motivate Rangers. Ed What do you think Lennon will say to him? Before every one slaughters me yes Jelavic did say something BUT he was only answering a question as truthful as he could. Kayal said Celtic are superior to Rangers in every possible way, when he was suppose to be talking about the Europa cup game. He changed from talking about tonight's game to Rangers lol.
Followfollow81

Ps Hamburg was a great day and night out. I would love to go to the Imtech Arena when it's full. What a stadium. Ed they have a standing section only it must be able to hold 15000 supporters. I think we should have standing only sections here. {Ed007's Note - How do you know what questions Kayal was asked? Just like Jelavic, it's swings and roundabouts.}

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I'm not going to slaughter you FF81, my heart sank when I seen it but do hope he has the arrogance to live up to it - Mrs E

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I seen the Jelavic interview. He got asked that question when he was in turkey with Croatia. Hugh Keevins, Darryl King and Graham Spiers told me about Kayal lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Must be true then!! Spiers is a kn*b. End of story.}

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Lol why stop at Speirs ed ! Darryl Kings nose couldnt be further up coist's a$$ and Hugh Keevins is one of they folk that both sides fo the old firm hate equally, thats how much he is hated ! heard him a few times on the radio and he genuinely never even listens to the points being made by callers and goes of on his own tangent all the time lol moron !

Germinator {Ed007's Note - Spiers tried to defend the actions of a certain Hearts player Germ, even when the truth came out he refused to detract his statements or apologise.}

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Ed what heart player are you talking about? You can tell us half a story because the end of it is always the best.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Here is some of your fellow Rangers fans talking about it. Have a read at it, but it's not what we want to discuss in detail on here, I'm sure you will agree:

forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=192424

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I see where you coming from now Ed. Dirty Scum.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Another example of the power that comes with working for Murdoch. I also contacted The Times and got no reply, questioned him on the matter on numerous occasions using various mediums using my real name etc, I get the impression he doesn't like me much. Children's charities were monitoring the situation as well. I take no notice of anything he has to say or write, I would think most decent people would feel the same.}

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30 Nov 2011 08:43:33
sean st ledger left on or game last night gd centre half we could do with to play with kelvin wilson

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ED why bother with posts like this one it makes no sense, i know you gloss over bad spelling but ive read this post 5 times and it is giving me a sore head ,fab1 {Ed007's Note - I thought someone could decipher it :-)

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I think he's suggesting we buy St Ledger

May I suggest we don't

David

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30 Nov 2011 00:37:06
With our Welsh connections like Hartson,Ledley and Matthews I hope that the GB and all Hoops fans going to the game tomorrow night have a tribute for Gary Speed wether it is an official club thing or not.Let's show our class over this very sad event.

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Class has nothing to do with it. It should be done purely out of respect.

RIP Gary Speed

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