Celtic Banter Archive January 30 2017

 

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30 Jan 2017 23:00:26
Despite all this Chelsea stuff and Nigerian wonder kids I think the transfer window will close with no 1st team regular leaving but also that no one will come into.

I think this might leave us short for champs league qualifiers but hope we back BR in the summer or fear he might realise his hands are tied and our aspirations limited!

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30 Jan 2017 22:58:21
Wouldn't accept any bid for dembele atm or in the summer if he's still happy to stay even if we got £30 million how much would really be reinvested in players, half if lucky? Would much rather another crack at champions league with him leading the line

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30 Jan 2017 20:06:30
5 million spent since BR took over and he's brought us champions league and amazing league form and still the board are not backing him in the transfer window! BR will leave in the summer! Transfer window a joke

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30 Jan 2017 20:28:28
Agree DK with regards to the boards spending, it's nothing short of disgraceful. BR has done his bit, can the board say the same?

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30 Jan 2017 20:36:29
Dk maybe its nothing to do with the board. The player needs to want the move and the selling club has to agree to sell. We won't sell Gordon so sometimes that's how it goes. BR won't leave in the summer. We also need to get rid of the dead wood we bought in last year. It will take another 12 months to sort it all out so keep the faith.

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30 Jan 2017 22:30:40
Spot on Johnnymac.
I was never a great fan of the January window anyway. Not many players want a change halfway through the season so choices are limited. Teams also do not want to weaken their side when still have play-off places, cup games, automatic relegation/ promotion, euro places and league titles still to play for.

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30 Jan 2017 23:41:51
Totally agree dk77! Was hoping to get a few in this window to bed them in for CL qualifiers! Detected more than a hint of frustration from BR! Not saying lawell or the board to blame, could just be that the players we're wanting are not available! But if they think this guys going to sit back and accept peanuts for players like the last manager then they'r in for a shock! U get a top class manager and he's going to want quality players to manage! But like I said I'm not blaming anyone, just hope BR doesn't get frustrated!

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30 Jan 2017 23:25:15
The board need to move with the times and appoint specialist transfer staff to make things happen! Too slow and not backing BR! Why has the Nigerian boy not been signed for 4 million asking price? BR said he wanted an active window so he could blood In new players before champions league qualification games! Hope next 24 hours 2 deals happen and deadwood got rid of

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30 Jan 2017 17:06:39
Sly sports reporting that Chelsea interested in dembele, and Celtic won't talk for under 40 million, Ed? do you think this is just sly sports tryna hype up yellow tie day for Jim white and Co.?

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{Ed007's Note - No it'll be Sly trying to get gullible fools to put money on it happening.}

30 Jan 2017 19:01:05
thats my thinking on it also, sly news rarely gets them right these days before its common knowledge, and the big betting logo in the top right should be a giveaway.

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30 Jan 2017 19:34:25
If gullible fools bet on that hell mend them. On the other hand, if it is a figure that Celtic would accept and it gets that figure out there then great. Personally I would ask for another £250,000 and buy that goalie for the followers of Mordor, it's getting really embarrassing now

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30 Jan 2017 19:44:27
masonic nonsense, if they were going to pay that for him lawwell would have hired him a private jet already.

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30 Jan 2017 18:13:03
Tell u what I would take a punt on big Ulloa at Leicester

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30 Jan 2017 20:45:57
**** no

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30 Jan 2017 17:55:16
It is good to see a manager that knows the value of a player. The quotes for our players from the club now seem more realistic of how much replacements could cost, not just what any other club offers.
The club have said offers for Dembele start at £40 million let;s see who come in now.

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30 Jan 2017 18:23:37
Celtic, Lawwell and Rodgers correct to put that price tag on Dembele. Why shouldn't they, we don't need to sell and if we do, it's on our terms. Players down south going for over £20 million no one has ever heard of. The only top professionals in the premiership are the marketing men and women who promote the league so why shouldn't we take a slice of it. If Ronny was still there do you think we would get £40 mill for him! No chance, that's what getting a top manager gets you, a pair of large nadgers

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30 Jan 2017 18:07:23
Have Chelsea approached us about dembele or is it sky just making rubbish stories up?

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30 Jan 2017 18:04:35
Really hope big Craig Gordon signs a new deal. Chelsea wanting him proves he is a top class keeper. He was poor under Ronny but most of the team were, under BR he has shown what great ability he has and we need him in the team.

We took a gamble giving him a job after being out the game for so long now its time for CG to repay that Bug. get the new deal signed and the treble is in the bag.

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30 Jan 2017 17:34:47
Here a question if they Chelsea are in for both MD and CG give us 40 million for the pair and leave us MD till the end of the season

That is his top value in my opinion at our level a live in hope but can't see us getting that kind of money again am afraid

In one condition BR gets to spend every penny of it he would shape a ten year team with that cash and domestically we would stay on top for a decade at least IMO never contested

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30 Jan 2017 18:44:43
Jamiebhoy7, what you say is fine in theory, but in reality there is no way we can build a team for the next 10 years.
Any decent player we would get would soon be coveted by the clubs down south, and the wages on offer would make it impossible for us to hold on to any decent players, the only ones we could keep are the ones who nobody else wants, this is what's happening now with Cifti, Ambrose, etc.
I just hope that we can manage the sale of players, if we sell our best players at the same time, then no matter how much money we get in, we will be back to square one.
The best way to dominate for the next 10 years in my view, is to qualify regularly for the Champions league, we need to try and do this by keeping the standard of the team at a decent level, while dealing with the inevitable loss of our star players, I don't think we'll achieve this by selling some of those players when they've only been here for 6 months.

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30 Jan 2017 17:24:41
ED007 I am sure you have heard all the rumours going about for weeks now about Griffiths having "a poor attitude" then today the BBC said in an interview with Rodgers that "Griffiths must work harder in training"
I know you sometimes hear things we fans don't, so what is the truth with Griffiths?

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{Ed007's Note - It is what it is, he needs to work harder in training to get his fitness back up to what Rodgers expects after injury, he missed a lot of training while guys like Atsmtrong and Boyata were doing what LG couldn't. We can only play with 11 players on the park and Dembele claimed the strikers spot when LG got injured, that's how Rodgers works and I believe that without Izzy being ill in midweek he would have started before KT.}

30 Jan 2017 19:35:12
It's the best way to work definetley. Just goes to show the players that want to play, will work hard to gain there place in the team! That's why the majority of our squad are in good form. Brendan has made the biggest impact at Celtic in years. The one hope I have is getting Roberts on a permanent. But I can't see it happening sadly.

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30 Jan 2017 17:26:28
Any update on the Onyekuru situation? Is a deal likely before the deadline?

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30 Jan 2017 22:54:43
Apparently the updated bid wasn't posted 3 days ago not yesterday like the papers were saying. The offers on the table and Celtic are waiting for eupen to fold. If they do we have the player, if we don't I don't think he'll ever be a Celtic player. The Agent and the player want the move but it's down to eupen now.

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30 Jan 2017 17:24:42
Any predictions for the day and the morra will we get anyone in and will CG be there come midnight?

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30 Jan 2017 17:22:28
Hope I'm wrong and maybe just my paranoia but sense a hint of frustration from the manager that he's not had more signings in this window! 'We've had 6 month to identify the players we want to bring in' maybe me but sounds like a wee dig at the board! Like I said might just be my paranoia and hope I'm wrong.

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30 Jan 2017 21:00:44
Unfortunately I agree and sensed the frustration in BRs tone when he said it as well. If we do lose BR it will be the biggest case of shitting in the nest in Celtics history and we've shat in the nest more than a few times. Depressing. 🍀

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30 Jan 2017 17:17:17
Chelsea in for Dembele as well now? They can do one with this last minute pi$h! And that mob across the city have the cheek to moan about us doing Aberdeen favours too 😂

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30 Jan 2017 17:03:24
Saying on sly spurts Chelsea are now in for dembele hope we stand our ground if true and tell them to get tae this bhoy is destined for either Madrid or Barcelona in a few years

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30 Jan 2017 17:34:49
We can't ignore 40 million if that's the figure being quoted, agree the fee with loan back for 6 months

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30 Jan 2017 11:19:03
To me the treble is more important than the 4 million Chelsea are offering.
I think we have a better chance of winning it if Gordon is in goal rather than any other keeper in our squad

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30 Jan 2017 11:29:58
6m = bye bye for me.

Even with our worst keeper the trebble should be ours. We just score more goals

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30 Jan 2017 11:39:02
Totally agree. It's just a bit of a shame Chelski came in so late.

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30 Jan 2017 12:32:47
I think we should be driving across the point to Chelsea what an inconvenience this is.

CG is far from irreplaceable but with such little time left in the window it's highly unlikely we could replace our first choice.

Also with potential CL qualifiers in the summer we would prefer to have a settled keeper.

Money bags chelsea can afford at the least 5m and if CG is happy being a cup keeper then catch ya.

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30 Jan 2017 13:26:04
You've lost me with your logic guys. Craig Gordon after Forster and Boruc is the best keeper I've seen at Celtic Park. And you want to let an international goalkeeper and excellent shot stopper with champions league experience go for a paltry £4-5M to a shower of bastards that are loaded with no back up?

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{Ed007's Note - He's 34 though mate and still has a horrendous injury record hanging over him which will still raise alarm bells with Chelsea's medical staff.}

30 Jan 2017 14:19:13
Eds right. And to boot, seems he has a black out area at his near post. Most keepers can stop shots, imo its the reading the game that makes them top class

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30 Jan 2017 14:24:15
At last Ed
a bit of common sense nothing split this board more than CG at one point in the minority a always held him in high regard but now 4 mill for a guy who is one bad fall on a plastic surface from being finished again as an ex goalie every time he plays on a surface like that it's because of a lack of activity that has him gaining


Take the money, you with your bad knee, me with my dodgy back could play in goals crikey and get us there easy the only thing stopping a treble is a bad decision going against us IMO

CG ain't no Boruc or FF never was take the dough, if DDV, Bailly or Fasan can't do a job why are we carrying them?

Like the idea of the boy Ward from Liverpool who was fab at Aberdeen (y)

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30 Jan 2017 14:42:39
He been very rarely out injured in the last 2 seasons though ed.

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{Ed007's Note - That makes no difference - his physical weaknesses will still show up during any medical and on his medical records - one bad fall could still wreck his career.}

30 Jan 2017 14:54:44
I think his performance on Sunday showed how distracted he is with the speculation - and you can't blame him.
If the club are being offered big money for a keeper who will probably leave for nothing at the end of his contract then I can see it being good business to let him go.
However, we do not have quality cover and January is not the best time to bring in a top keeper and a stop-gap might have to be the short term solution.
Personally I really find the interest from Chelsea very strange when they never usually look at Scottish players - especially veteran goalies with an injury history - and could afford any keeper they want from the top leagues of Europe and world football?
It' almost qualifies as a conspiracy theory ha ha.

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{Ed007's Note - I was surprised to see Gordon start yesterday with everything going on but fair play to him for manning up and playing. I'm sure Rodgers would have been sympathetic if Gordon has said he wasn't mentally right to take his place.}

30 Jan 2017 15:34:18
One bad fall or slip or tackle can ruin any players career.
We don't need the money for him.
But to walk away with a treble to finish this season off would be worth knocking back the money for him.
We have a settled squad that in bulldozing everything in front of us.
Unless he says he wants to leave and puts in a request then I wouldn't entertain any bid.

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30 Jan 2017 15:52:16
Think if Gordon goes it'll be a case of the big yellow taxi, till the end of the season

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30 Jan 2017 15:53:17
Good post jamiebhoy

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30 Jan 2017 16:10:50
Gordon probably knows this could be his last big payday but brendan wants him to stay so don't think it will happen

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30 Jan 2017 17:01:46
Sounds like he's off to me. We were saying he's not for sale to start with, now it's he'll only go if his valuation is met. Surely we've been working on a new keeper since the first bid if that's the attitude

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30 Jan 2017 16:55:31
Spot on shug he is always beaten at his near post and dodgy at crosses into the box.

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30 Jan 2017 17:25:53
4m for a 34 year old? id say ok we want it payed in full now no installments incase he breaks down, we could play stevie wonder in goal and still win the treble. we all know that clown lawwell isn't shy in taking money either, im sure our friends at barcelona could help us out with a keeper in the meantime.

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30 Jan 2017 19:50:45
It isn't the point JB67-he's the best keeper we've had in my 50 years watching the Hoops with exception of Forster and Boruc. Letting our best players go isn't why I bought a season ticket for the last 25 years, Where has all the talk about Gordon breaking down coming from? Two years and he hasn't missed a feckn game. I know I'm firmly in the CG camp monority including Ed on the let him go side but I'm starting to get depressed listening to the take the cash argument. I know everybody has their price but £4m for CG at this moment in time when we've earned what we've earned and BR has spent relatively feck all isn't the time. 🍀

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30 Jan 2017 23:55:03
nobody said he isn't a bad keeper, and breaking down can happen to any player a freak landing here or there just look what happened to the young hearts boy on sunday, the fact we got him for nothing and taking his age into account he's not going to be first choice for the next few years it makes good business sense to take the money on offer.

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30 Jan 2017 10:56:56
1) Craig Gordon should be allowed to
talk to Cheslea if it is true they offered £4 million although in the current market we could get £5.
All our Keepers contracts are finished at the end of next season and we should be looking at a first class replacement but in the mean time we will still win this season with what we have.
Vorn, Krul or Danny Ward would do me also i would like to see what Fasan would be like in the first team.
2) I think Sviatchenko will be back on Wednesday for Simunovic who BR rests regularly. If Dembele and Griffiths are out for Aberdeen hope he plays Aitchinson from the start though this might be too big a game for him but that never stopped Big Jock
3) I also believe that this squad is strong enough to get to the group stages of CL.

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30 Jan 2017 12:01:16
Definitely agree with you on that last point jonace. A lot of people seem to think we need more players in this window to make it through the qualifiers but forget that we made it through this season with Jozo injured, Sinclair just in the door, Dembele still finding his feet and Armstrong yet to hit his fantastic run of form.

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30 Jan 2017 12:01:16
Definitely agree with you on that last point jonace. A lot of people seem to think we need more players in this window to make it through the qualifiers but forget that we made it through this season with Jozo injured, Sinclair just in the door, Dembele still finding his feet and Armstrong yet to hit his fantastic run of form.

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30 Jan 2017 15:01:10
It's al about hitting the ground running so early in a season and that is always a tall order - eg: Red Imps away game.
There's no doubt with a fully fit squad - on form - the likes of Tierney, Simunovic, Armstrong, Brown, Rogic, Sinclair, Dembele, Griffiths and Roberts (if avail) are all capable.

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30 Jan 2017 17:24:57
Well with All this Gordon talk should he go, should he not, will we let him go, will we not. If he gets the chance I hope he takes it. Been great for us imo he's had 2 nasty arm breaks that could of ended his career. Let him go collect a good bit of coin n u never know they might reach champs league final n courtious gets injured. In steps Gordon lol well its possible HH

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30 Jan 2017 10:13:36
If Gordon wants to leave then leave! But Celtic must have GK in as the keepers left after Gordon are not Celtic class. Why not swap Asmir Begovic with Craig Gordon? If Begovic wants first team football and Gordon wants Chelsea move then let's swap! If that's not possible due to wages etc I personally would sign Scott Bain from Dundee. Living in Dundee and having Dundee supporting mates he gets rave reviews here. He is the best keeper Dundee have had since Jullien Speroni and he was a top GK. It's a hard position to be in 48 hours away from the Transfer Deadline.

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30 Jan 2017 10:39:18
It's not as if they want rid of Begovic, they're willing to sell because the player wants frst team football and Bournemouth are willing to shell out about £10M. If he really wants to go I'd like to see him and the club come to an agreement where he'll stay until the end of the season and leave for free in the summer instead of us taking the year's option. Chelsea probably wouldn't want to wait about for that though.

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30 Jan 2017 11:36:47
It's great business for celtic to take 4million our season is all but over already league in bag job done, qualified for ECL and made plenty job done, now to get ready for ECL qualifiers again? The cup we have home tie in last 16 and if we progress and get decent home tie in last 8 means we don't need to leave Glasgow to win cup, we have to trust our other goalkeepers or why are they there?

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{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't settle for anything less than £6 million for Gordon, why should Chelsea get an international 'keeper with EL/CL experience who is an important part of our treble chasing team for buttons and let's be honest, £6m to Chelsea is pea-nuts, especially considering they want £10/12m for Begovic.}

30 Jan 2017 13:32:25
Great point ed sick of the English thinking they can plunder celtic offering peanuts when similar calibre player or worse can leave clubs like Hull for double the money

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

30 Jan 2017 13:46:12
Ed-spot on-their is absolutely no reason we need to act like a charity shop for the feckn EPL. The time to draw the line is now and set a benchmark for Dembelle etc. when the time comes. Give them feck all for feck all.

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{Ed007's Note - As you know I'm no great lover of Gordon and if it was a mid-table EPL team bidding £3 million in July I'd snap their hand off, but this is mega-bucks Chelsea trying to buy an important part of our team as things stand with 2 days to find a replacement. I want this Treble ssssoooo badly and out of all the 'keepers we have Gordon is our best bet at attaining it.
Someone suggested Tim Krull who is scunnered at Ajax and Newcastle don't want him back, he's only 28 and I'm sure he's out of contract in the summer too, would you take him?}

30 Jan 2017 12:10:28
Definitely agree Ed, Chelsea are loaded. Romans probably got £4 million sitting next to his bed as loose change. If they're desperate to get Gordon pay at least 6/ 7 million or jog on

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{Ed007's Note - It's now starting to look like Chelsea are getting the message that he's not for sale.}

30 Jan 2017 15:19:31
Where's this Krul talk coming from Ed? Would be a great bit of business.

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{Ed007's Note - It was just someone mentioned him on here as a possible replacement for Gordon, JT and it could make perfect sense imo although I'm not sure what level he's currently at regarding shaprness but at only 28 I'm positive he could get back up to speed in no time working under Rodgers' regime.}

30 Jan 2017 15:29:32
Would seem like the perfect solution whoever suggested it. We take a 6 month loan to buy, bank the money for Gordon (they still have to add a few million on yet though) and sharpness aside, we have ourselves a better 'keeper.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm raging I never thought of him myself lol}

30 Jan 2017 16:40:56
I'm surprised Chelsea haven't. I read Rafa saying somebody has enquired but it was the wrong club. That could be Chelsea (not guaranteeing games) .

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30 Jan 2017 16:23:44
Leave for free?! he's no Larsson

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30 Jan 2017 09:09:56
£4m now been offered now for Gordon. I know he has his critics but I do like him but £4m for a 34 year old is a no brainer for me. Cash in now as we shouldn't need him to meet our targets this season even with devries and Bailey not being good enough. If we can't get a quick keeper in before deadline spent the next 5 months or so scouting for a top young keeper.
The only reservations I have about selling him is not getting a replacement in this window to blend him in for the CL qualifiers in the summer.
Thoughts?

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30 Jan 2017 10:10:12
I agree mate, considering what we paid for him I would take it

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30 Jan 2017 11:00:59
If you look at the fees that get paid for a top class goalkeeper in their thirties its well in excess of what chelsea is offering,34 is no age for a goalkeeper

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30 Jan 2017 11:24:26
6m for me is my bye bye number

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30 Jan 2017 11:49:07
not enough, keepers tend to play well at this age and who is better for the money, i'd rather he stayed but if not i think a bit more money is required.

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30 Jan 2017 16:21:45
We have a better chance of an unbeaten treble with Gordon in the side. I'd definitely get more satisfaction out of telling Chelsea to get tae with 3 trophies in the bag rather than have £4 million for him.

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{Ed007's Note - That's my take on it too, unless we have a quality replacement to come in before Tuesday our best bet in goal to land the treble is Gordon.}

30 Jan 2017 08:06:35
Even after that display of how not to kick a ball Chelsea back with a £4m bid for Gordon

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30 Jan 2017 08:01:02
Is David Moyes stupid? Or just ignorant? Sell a mediocre lb in Patrick Van Aanholt for 14mill? Bid 10 for Kieran Tierney? Idiot!

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30 Jan 2017 09:37:15
I think he's showing his disdain for the club and league again. Two things though, why would anyone want to go to Sunderland at the minute especially a top player coming through that much bigger clubs are looking at. Second as you intimated before, 10 million would only buy his right foot. When van arnholt and others like Luke shaw go for between 15 and 20 why would we entertain a bid like that .

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30 Jan 2017 09:43:32
I think they're signing Oviedo.

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30 Jan 2017 11:02:31
Best player at Celtic best lb in Britain at the moment bit of a cheek to be linked at 10m bid show some respect for the lad!
Average players from premiership going for 10-18m and players from Europe going 25m+

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29 Jan 2017 19:56:20
Ed-any truth in the rumour that big Eric the Viking was dropped? 🍀

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{Ed007's Note - No.}

30 Jan 2017 01:07:43
i can't stop laughing read online there the express claiming sunderland about to approach us for tierney, we know what tierney would say to that lol.

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30 Jan 2017 02:13:55
sky claiming chelsea have lodged a second bid of 3.5m for gordon.

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30 Jan 2017 08:16:39
If he gets a two year contract on begovic's £60,000 per week salary he stands to make just over £6m in wages alone, what a retirement fund vs what we will offer, take the money off Chelsea and get in a younger keeper that could be our no 1 for years to come, or even start using Doohan if the hype surrounding him is true, AC Milan took a punt on their youth keeper and it paid off, CG has played his part

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29 Jan 2017 22:15:54
Brenden rodgers saying, I'm disappointed we may not make anymore signings because as a club we've had 6 months to identify the players we need.

Anyone else think this could be a dig at the club for not doing enough in transfer window?

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30 Jan 2017 08:07:53
He wanted then bedded in early to help with champions league qualifiers, seems like the club aren't playing ball, the buzz and transformation of the club right now is huge, being a celtic fan hasn't been as exciting for ages, back the manager and cough up coin, I would love to know how much a scout earns per season, must be the easiest job at celtic as your clearly not tasked with finding any players, apart from the odd balde or scepovic, cracking talent spotters 😂😂😂

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30 Jan 2017 08:20:55
If that's what he said then its definitely a dig at someone. May be other parties causing issuse tho as id think it unlikely hed be unprofessional in commenting on celtic

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30 Jan 2017 09:17:31
The problem may be how many players we have on the wage bill that are surplus to requirement and can't (or won't) budge because they are on generous contracts for their ability and nobody can afford - or even want them.
BR must be frustrated as there are only so many he wants to keep and there's a limit to how many agree to loans.
However, I would have hoped the board would have acted on the McCarthy interest or made an effort to keep Roberts

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30 Jan 2017 09:20:06
think he said it wasnt clubs fault tbh belfast, i ain't to bothered as id rather have no one in than bringing in squad players, we have enough of them . also if boyata keeps performing as the last few games we could have a cracking CB

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30 Jan 2017 13:22:24
Just hope it's not the start of a tiff between manager and board cuz it is the most exciting times in a long time let's hope rodgers is backed all the way

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{Ed007's Note - So far this season we've had rumours of Rodgers falling out with LG, then it was Sviatchenko yesterday and now the board today. (facepalm) People read far too much into these situations. Perhaps the payers Rodgers wants aren't available for one reason or another. Do we really need to buy a player who come the CL is lucky to make the bench, haven't we got enough of that standard of player?
January is notoriously difficult to finalise deals yet there's some (a lot of?) fans who feel the need to demand that we spend money, it doesn't matter in whom or if their any good as long as there's money getting spent. Modern fans crave money to be spent but don't worry about who on - as long as it is lots of money.}

30 Jan 2017 17:22:03
You know Belfast I read that myself and I have to say my first reaction was it was a dig at the board.

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