Celtic Banter Archive September 02 2016

02 Sep 2016 23:00:16
Ed any news on whether Griffiths will be fit for the the rangers game?

{Ed007's Note - Leigh Griffiths has been carrying a knock for a couple of weeks hence why he's been been taken off after about an hour in last two games - he should be fine for next weekend.}

03 Sep 2016 01:39:19
Es I'm taking it as that means Dembele is not trusted by Rodgers to start or else he would have, if what you are saying Griffiths has s knock why not rest hi start the frenshman.

{Ed007's Note - You're reading far too much into it, players play with knocks all the time.}

03 Sep 2016 13:14:16
It's standard procedure to give players carrying injuries about an hour . This works out well at Celtic as it gives B R half an hour or so to give Dembele a run out and try something else.

03 Sep 2016 13:26:00
Thanks ed.

02 Sep 2016 23:23:45
Gordo - you'd pick Cifci ahead of Commins would you?

03 Sep 2016 00:15:29
I would don't even need to think about that one. Commons is all about himself, not a team player. Can see him at Hibs january.

02 Sep 2016 22:17:17
Celtic Champions League Squad

Goalkeepers

Craig Gordon, Dorus de Vries, Logan Bailly, Leonardo Fasan and Ross Doohan.

Defenders

Solo Touré, Emilio Izaguirre, Jozo Šimunović, Cristian Gamboa, Dedryck Boyata, Mikael Lustig, Erik Sviatchenko, Eoghan O'Connell, Jamie McCart and Kieran Tierney.

Midfielders

Nir Bitton, Scott Brown, Stuart Armstrong, Ryan Christie, Tom Rogic, Patrick Roberts, Callum McGregor, James Forrest, Liam Henderson and Regan Hendry.

Forwards

Nadir Çiftçi, Leigh Griffiths, Moussa Dembele, Scott Sinclair, Gary Mackay-Steven, Calvin Miller, Mark Hill, Michael Johnston
and Jack Aitchison.

02 Sep 2016 23:42:22
A lot more than 25 there.

{Ed007's Note - There's an A List and a B list.

List A:- A maximum of 25 players, two of whom must be goalkeepers. There are a minimum of eight places reserved exclusively for 'locally trained players'. If a club have fewer than eight locally trained players in their squad, then the maximum number of players on List A is reduced accordingly.

What's a 'locally trained player'?

There are two categories:
1. Club-trained players – players who were on a club's books for three years between the ages of 15 and 21;
2. Association-trained players – players who were on another club's books in the same association for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. No club can have more than four association-trained players among their eight nominees on List A.

List B:- A player may be registered on List B if he is born on, or after, 1 January 1995 and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday (players aged 16 may be registered if they have been registered with the club for the previous two years). Clubs are entitled to register an unlimited number of players on List B during the season, but the list must be submitted by no later than 24:00CET the day before a match.

03 Sep 2016 00:15:23
Bailey will be fit by mid group, youth keeper to tick boxes. But 24? (cough)
Ajer is still technically youth. Ambrose is ambrose. Looks like someone is picking up a wage and nothing else.

03 Sep 2016 09:13:19
Surely with internationals and experience players the European Team will pick itself.
Gordon
Gamboa lustig kolo Tierney (izzy scviatcenko simunovic)
Brown Bitton (rogic mcgregor)
Sinclair forrest Roberts (rogic Armstrong gms)
Griffiths (Dembele cifti)
Then you gave the inexperience youth ajar o Connel Henderson atchison untested at the level but very capable of a great break through on the big stage.
Personally I think rogic could be key as his flexibility across midfield. Hopefully br can sort Bitton out, personally think he is far capable of better that he shows. Sometimes it feels as he's a teenager being asked to put the bins out. the bins go out (just about) but they don't do it any enthusiasm and speed that you feel like pushing them out of the way and doing it your----sorry about the analogy hope it makes sense. He really does frustrate me sometimes.

03 Sep 2016 09:47:28
You think Sinclair, Forrest and Roberts will all start? No chance. Not even in the so called easiest group match at home to the Germans.

03 Sep 2016 09:50:16
Rogic has to play before forrest or roberts.

02 Sep 2016 21:44:19
They always moan they are not in the squad then pull out when they are - absolute ****ers.
Regarding Commons - has this been confirmed? I think it's a disgrace if true.

02 Sep 2016 21:58:22
Why is it a disgrace.

02 Sep 2016 22:00:34
What about commons?

02 Sep 2016 22:05:56
Why is it a disgrace?

02 Sep 2016 23:14:29
Is this the 24/ 5th? Thing your talking about?

03 Sep 2016 00:26:13
To be honest the only disgraceful thing I have actually seen involving Celtic in the last 12 mths was K Commons reaction at been substituted by R D last season .
We have had many disappointments and mistakes made by R D, but only one incident was a disgrace .

03 Sep 2016 01:36:20
Commons reaction was probably regrettable but to be honest I can probably sympathise with it. he was one of our best players before RD arrived then was totally ignored until things started unravelling for a totally inept manager. not sure if he still has a future at the club but I For one would like to. remember him for the player and the goals he scored. seems to have a bad reputation among some fans for being a disruptive influence but that seems to be mainly unfounded allegations and in sure if they were true he would have been ejected long ago. when will we see another 32 goal midfielder in the hoops?

03 Sep 2016 08:03:10
Eddiekane commons is past it and should never have been given a new contract. He is not a team player and everything is always about him. Ed when does his contract end.

03 Sep 2016 12:33:08
Think it's the end of season marco.

03 Sep 2016 13:19:32
Eddykane, regrettable is spitting out your chewing gum .
What Commons did was considerably more disrespectful than that . It took one of the youngsters of the squad to settle him down by telling him exactly what type of obnoxious twit he was.

02 Sep 2016 20:56:59
well well well : it did not take Wallace to long to pull out of the Scotland squad did it. should have put my Mortgage on it.

02 Sep 2016 22:00:05
After a training session he realises that he is completely out his depth and punching above his wait when it comes to international players. can't believe the SMSM actually thought he deserved to b called up last year n the year before when he was up against championship n league 1 players. lol.

03 Sep 2016 12:38:23
don't understand why Shinnie isn't in the squad.

02 Sep 2016 19:44:55
We're the colts playing tonight?
If so what was the result.

02 Sep 2016 20:21:26
Tomorrow mate.

02 Sep 2016 20:23:28
Tomorrow (Sat)

02 Sep 2016 20:31:24
Playing tomorrow buddy.

02 Sep 2016 20:53:28
Saturday 5.15 pm kick off.

02 Sep 2016 22:07:01
Cheers bhoys?

02 Sep 2016 22:12:24
We won't have result until tomorrow night.

02 Sep 2016 17:33:38
When do we find out the 25 named players or don't we?

Stengo.

02 Sep 2016 21:41:52
Apparently we just named a 24 man squad. why would that be?

02 Sep 2016 15:43:14
Ed with Aberdeen in the news today for stating there has been no previous meetings between themselves and sevco, do you think Celtic will do likewise? I have a feeling that the Green Brigade will have something planned for the game but I hope the club do something to welcome Scotland's newest club to Celtic Park.

Obviously we have played them twice in the cups (before anyone points that out! )

{Ed007's Note - I doubt the Club will do anything similar mate. All the GB need to do is have a banner or tifo of the UEFA letter.}

02 Sep 2016 18:25:05
what was in the letter ED Tambhoy the first.

{Ed007's Note -

02 Sep 2016 19:11:39
Any links to Aberdeens comments Ed or HTC?

{Ed007's Note - They didn't make any comment, on their official website it's showing up as there being no previous meetings between the clubs.}

02 Sep 2016 23:19:40
I will always be disappointed that Celtic never spearheaded the stance about Sevco = Same club garbage.
As the most powerful club in Scotland, we should have championed the truth and forced this falsehood out in the open where none of the liars and pretenders would have had a leg to stand on.
Channels like SLY and S (evco) TV and the biased media in Scotlandneed to be put in their place.

03 Sep 2016 00:07:18
Cheers Ed.

01 Sep 2016 22:54:16
Was just seeing a few guys saying efe could play in midfield. To be honest he hasn't been awful when he has played full back. As long as he's not last man he "can" be a relatively decent player. He has a bit of pace, is strong and adds height to the team. I think he has just got his preferred position wrong his whole career😂.

02 Sep 2016 01:11:52
RB is his preferred position. Plays there for Nigeria.

02 Sep 2016 01:21:22
Although BR is 'resting' him, I think he will play a part somewhere along the way. Either as a sub or start in some domestic/ cup games.
Like Izzy he loves the club and wants to play for Celtic and I'm sure he always gives his all, but unfortunately the errors are so high profile, costly and frequent it destroys all confidence.
Nonetheless he is a Nigeria International full back and a place outwith central defense may be the solution?

02 Sep 2016 08:26:36
The only solution is out the bloody door.
He is not good enough for any position in the team and breeds panick ever time he's in it.

02 Sep 2016 08:32:45
I am absolutely stunned there's still people talking about ambrose and maybe playin him somewhere else to save him making an arse of it! This guy is finished at Celtic! He's 9 months left on his contract and I for one hope to never see him in a Celtic top again! It's staggering that there's still some trying to make a case for him! He's pish in any position and that's the bottom line!

02 Sep 2016 08:43:56
Efe is stuck in a catch 22 situation. As he has made mistakes the fans get on his case whenever he is on the pitch, which make him prone to making more errors.

I personally don't think he is anywhere near as bad as some people make him out to be and feel sorry for him because he gives his all in each performance.

02 Sep 2016 11:09:56
Giving your all doesn't make you good enough.

02 Sep 2016 11:16:01
Wiss81 totally agree mate no more excuses can be made. He's had chance after chance to redeem himself and he keeps on letting the team and the fans down. Thanks for the effort efe but your times up my man. HH.

02 Sep 2016 12:36:06
Rab

Did you read what you wrote before you posted?

Absolute nonsense. If he was any good he would be able to block the fans out and concentrate on his own game. This is a guy who can make a mistake anywhere, Celtic Park, other Scottish grounds, Europe and in internationals. You can't tell me that Celtic fans who are in the minority in away games can put him off? What about internationals?

02 Sep 2016 13:07:19
I can't believe I'm saying this, but it actually agree that Efe is quite a good player, just an awful defender.

He plays a blinder for 89mins and then has a massive lapse in concentration and gives away a ridiculous goal. Not acceptable when you are playing CB and are the last man.

As a holding MF i think he would actually be pretty good. He has a good range of passing, is quite pacy, he's strong in the air and on the ground and can tackle better than most MF's (him being a defender and all) . With the same 89 mins good, 1 min bad ratio it might me a good bet as there would be someone behind him to clean up the bad minute debacles!

I could be horribly wrong, but he is still one of our players and we should get behind him as he's here until at least January. It can't do his confidence any good reading the rubbish we post about him here. And he is Celtic through and through.

Just sayin!

02 Sep 2016 13:47:52
Nial you are perfectly entitled to your opinion about Ambrose and I am sure more Celtic fans share your view about him, than they do mine.

That being said I do stick by my opinion that his confidence is shattered due to the stick he gets from some of the fans (some of it warranted) .

Not sure if you have ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy but this is what has happened to Ambrose. If you cast your mind back to Ambrose before the Juventus game, he was a reasonably solid defender and formed a good partnership with Wilson. However, since that game the stick he has taken has continually worsened as has his number of errors. My view is that both are linked (i. e. the self-fulfilling prophecy) .

Please don't think I am saying Ambrose is an amazing defender but I do think he is better than he is made out to be by some of our fans. I also think he is more than capable of handling Scottish defences but his time at Celtic will soon be over.

02 Sep 2016 13:54:27
Cant remember who it was against but he came on last season i think it was a europa game and 5 times in a row he couldn't play a 5 yard ball to feet and people want him playing in midfield. Give me strength.

02 Sep 2016 14:24:56
To all these guys claiming Ambrose is a great centre midfielder. He has played under 3 Celtic managers and not 1 of them has trusted him to play more than 45 minutes of football in there.

To those that say he is great passer of the ball. James Forrest has a better cross completion rate than him. He played right back away last season (I think it was Hearts) and hit more kids in the stand than our players standing waiting for his crosses.

He is Celtic through and through? Is that a joke? Gabby Agbonlahor is Villa through and through, a fan and player his whole career with them. He is being called a traitor for not leaving. Efe is only here for the money and he hasn't move anywhere else because everyone else knows how terrible he is. If he "loved" Celtic he would have done us all a favour and left. He hasn't stayed for he love of Celtic.

{Ed007's Note - Ambrose stayed after Brendan Rodgers told him he was happy for him to stay and fight for his place.}

02 Sep 2016 14:28:04
I honestly can't believe what I'm reading of some of these posting . Apart from all the errors and not to mention important games he's cost us people are still trying to fit him somewhere in the team. There's been loads of games where he can't even pass it ten yards to a team mate . With all the errors his career with us is finished, I for one hope br doesn't include him in the final squad for Europe . For all his effort a blind man can see he needs a move away for the good of his career . Yet he decided to turn down two moves in the window, surely he would have been better going to the Belgian club than sit in our reserves picking up money . If he went there and played well a few teams would probably look at him with his caps and so on. He's just going to be hanging around now picking up wasted wages . I'd arrange a free for him now if he'd accept it.

02 Sep 2016 14:40:16
Efe is certainly not a right back . He plays there in the Nigerian team because the Nigerian Manager rates other centre backs better than Efe .
When Efe came to Celtic he was not a bad footballer but especially after the European match when he had a short turn round time from landing in Great Britain and playing a growing number of fans got on his back and naturally his confidence dropped
I very much doubt if Efe can play consistently for us again .
Maybe he can do a job elsewhere, but I very much doubt it .
I wonder what his real age is, compared to his football age .

02 Sep 2016 15:19:33
Old Bhoy he was always a right back before celtic.
He was in the team of the tournament the year Nigeria won the African cup of nations in the right back squad.

02 Sep 2016 16:14:41
he was playing dm for ashdod before coming to celtic.

02 Sep 2016 16:58:47
I will cut to the chase using my best Glaswegian AMBROSE IS JUST SHITE! lol.

02 Sep 2016 17:15:48
I remember more summersaults than **** ups.

02 Sep 2016 18:41:06
Just sums the guy up that he is better known for sommersaulting than he is for actually playing football.

02 Sep 2016 18:50:46
Let's stick him up front.

02 Sep 2016 19:06:48
why don't we just leave the this kind of talk for the other team across the city celtic family get behind the team whoever plays cheers not jeers why can't we all get along 😟.

02 Sep 2016 19:38:59
I will never forget his madness in the Fenerbache game. Looked bad enough to be match fixing!

02 Sep 2016 15:43:40
All the people complaining about the suggestion Ambrose being in midfield. the reason people say it is because we need someone who can tackle to protect the defenders.

The board chose not to invest on deadline day so Ambrose becomes an option then, most claim to be happy we didn't spend on deadline day when we need a midfielder.

Don't complain when we are exposed through the middle.

The youtube clip is of Ambrose first game against raith rovers in the cup, he played defensive mid and looked very good, not any worse a passer than Scott Brown. It's clear even in these highlights he's lost a lot of confidence and doesn't have the bottle to be last man.

Efe Ambrose Celtic Debut

03 Sep 2016 00:45:32
We were informed at the time that Nigerian Manager didn't rate him as highly as his centre backs . He certainly is not a right back for Celtic, not in a million years, he maybe can play as a fullback who is not expected to race up the field and cut the ball back or cross it . B R like R D wants his full backs to defend and link up with wingers and create chances . Ambrose may have certain skills and a lot more than he is given credit for by some posters who love to see him fail.