Celtic Banter Archive September 02 2011

02 Sep 2011 23:38:05
Tell all the Gers in pain
That we're heading for sunshine again
Your Europe adventure has gone
The Bill is still on
And our beach balls are going back to Spain!

To all the Tims off on their hol's
Remind the team what to do with the ball's
To win a game ur ment to score more
If they get 3 u need 4
When u get back we'll be waiting
u'll be knackerd we'll be celebrating {Ed007's Note - What tune is that meant to be sung to??}

Not decided yet ED. If I sing it, you hum it, and between us we'll kum up we summit eh? {Ed007's Note - So you just made up a naff poem then? Here's a couple of new songs (they won't even get you into trouble with UEFA: 1. Penny Blockade
2. Borrow Borrow
3. The Cash My Father Owed.
4. God Pay YOur Queen.
5. Build My Ring Fence, Build It High.

Ed007, naughty but I loved the song titles, not as good but how about to Mr Murray "The Cry was no Backhanders!"
LOL Timalloy

Or how about these for the runners up party...
1) Fail Fail
2) You'll never get in alone (European mix)
3) The goals have run dry (Samaras solo)
4) Just can't get (over) Diouf
5) ...nope, you don't have any other decent tunes {Ed007's Note - Well it's four decent tunes more than Rangers have got to be FARE.}

Ah, the banter, the banter. I was gonna give you a wee ditti using the surnames of SPL title winners in the Celtic squad but coud'nae find a word to rhyme with none .(yea yea, person I know) Thanguverymush... I'm here till Thursday. TaTa ED off to watch the footie. It's been fun {Ed007's Note - You couldn't think of a word that rhymed with none? That is a bit sad, make sure to hold someones hand crossing the road going to the game.}

02 Sep 2011 22:26:54
Was listening to the Radio Clyde Football Phone In tonight , i couldn't believe what i was listening to ! the usual person love in was in full swing , Hugh Keevins , Gordon Dalziel and Jim Delahun who last week were "slagging" Scottish Football for not having a club in Europe at the end of August , today they greated the news of Celtic's re-instatement by saying its a disaster for Celtic , as they are basically s**te and will get humped off Atletico Madrid , Udinese and Rennes and be an embarrassment to Scottish football and it will hand the league title to Rangers ! what are you people all about ? Rangers are facing possible liquidation over taxes , but these characters have made excuses for them , while slaughtering Celtic all week , but thats the country we live in so i shouldn't be surprised really . {Ed007's Note - Tonight is the first time in years I have listened to Clyde (sorry, but I had my reasons to tune in). Within minutes I quickly realised why I stopped listening, and then the 'brown brogues' stoater came on and I realised that nothing had or ever will change there. People need to realise that these people say things to get a reaction, that is their job, even down to the writers at the 'red tops'. If people stopped listening to these programmes and buying their papers then they would maybe raise their level of journalism and report facts rather than what sells papers or gets people to phone in. I have admitted openly that I am a WUM and enjoy winding up Rangers fans, if I do it and get them worked up it gets them posting back, that is the whole point of the site (just like a newspaper???), but if a Rangers fan comes on here and wants a sensible conversation or debate then they know they are more than welcome and will get treated with respect along with their points/topics. People are playing into people like Mr Keevins hands by constantly nit picking his statements, and basically you can't win with them. Sorry, rant over.}

Sadly, Keevins, Young and Traynor get away with it every day. "Investigative Journalism" my aunt sally hail hail Timalloy

I agree Ed007 , i usually listen to RCFFI when i'm backshift , as of today i wont be again , Hugh IM Jolly does as you say , love the sound of his own voice , is ignorant and condesending to anyone who disagrees with his opinion , Gordon Dalziel , Iain McCall , Billy Dodds and Daryl King are "Rangers men" and Jim Delahun will not hear a word against , Rangers , Ally McCoist , referees who "favour" Rangers , we really should not be encouraging these people . {Ed007's Note - If only more people could see it, CFC and Rangers fans, these jokers live off both sides paranoia yet continually condescend us all for it. They're vetting of calls is extremely questionable at times also. Keevins 'It is only my opinion' stance is is both childish and smug beyond belief, everyone is entitled to an opinion as I say enough times on here, and sensible opinions warrant respect, if you are putting yourself in the public eye then you need to expect your opinion to be questioned surely? Being controversial and then hiding behind your media 'power' is wrong and just proves the point that it is all about the ratings (and their earnings). The old pals act throughout the media is verging on nepotism IMO and it is only the advent of a new generation of younger, curious journalists that can buck the trend. The 'red tops' and their cohorts are afraid of the changes that are going on in journalism because all of their unwritten rules etc are becoming like them, extinct and well past their sell by date.}

Calm down Calm down! Your right, but I love it! I love getting wound up by what they write/speak... what would you prefer? Nothing, or some dullard talking statistics? Lighten up and enjoy the ride, you can still make up your own mind... {Ed007's Note - Personally I would prefer nothing, or if the panel would gave their true opinion rather than constantly fishing for their next caller.}

Calm down Calm down! Your right, but I love it! I love getting wound up by what they write/speak... what would you prefer? Nothing, or some dullard talking statistics? Lighten up and enjoy the ride, you can still make up your own mind... {Ed007's Note - Personally I would prefer nothing, or if the panel would gave their true opinion rather than constantly fishing for their next caller

ED, I bet you nibble biscuits and cheese when you listen in, or is that too awkard whilst reading the broadsheets? {Ed007's Note - My butler reads them out to me.}

02 Sep 2011 21:39:02
the last three year rangers can not have made it any easier for you to win the league ..yet you still failed ...who is two blame .... Lennon or your tight board ... {Ed007's Note - You could have made it easier, you could have let us win!! By your reckoning and admission CFC failed to win the league, our failure seems more important to you than Rangers success? Are you saying we were the better team but failed or Rangers were a poor team and succeeded? I can live with that, takes a big man to come on and admit it though, cheers mate. I obviously blame NL for this as it must be his fault, everything wrong in Scotland seems to be blamed on him so we might as well add that to the list.}

Still laughing at the bit were the post says tight board,this guy needs to get himself an (un'named talent agent)MACCA

Ed - great to see Lenny getting blamed for Celtic not winning the league in seasons when he wasn't even manager.

HaHa typical Smeltic reaction...twist the whole thing and somehow come out the other end with luck or other people letting you down! Ahhhhhhhhh, love it

02 Sep 2011 21:35:13
what could've been recent seasons (cheaply)

speroni

mcnaughton dunne st ledger(free) dixon


tempelton mccarthy(3) mc arther mcfadden(free)

fletcher(3m) long(4.5)

02 Sep 2011 21:22:14
Rumour has it that Samaras is claiming he got the 3 goals in the first leg and Maloney the hat trick in the 2nd leg . Lol
CelticMatt

02 Sep 2011 21:15:06
any1 watch wales game? ledley been fantastic playing further forward than what we play him and really dangerous. would be first name on my Celtic team sheet ball retention is excellent.

02 Sep 2011 20:53:55
Ed - how and when does the loan window operate? {Ed007's Note - It opens on Wednesday at midnight (seven days after the window closes). The EPL window is closed but players can leave on loan to lower league clubs or teams in other 'Home Nation' associations.}

See if aw the openin ae windaes n shuttin windaes wiz shut then thur widnae be any openins ,noo thats the last ae the subjikt ed am up tae high doe {Ed007's Note - I was starting to think CR Smith were sponsoring us again.}

Hey Pat, why dont you go to the "windae"city, oh the "windae"city, aye ye canny beat a bit of Doris Day LOL Timalloy

Timbo ma sun av aywaeys liked doris day in fact ah new hur bruvvers giro,nite n' ,match..
n'her sisturs,aw, hauf & pay
so heres tae big doris (pity hur bra size didnae match her inishuls ed !) {Ed007's Note - I'm more an Audrey Hepburn man myself Pat.}

02 Sep 2011 20:18:17
here ed hers a littul nown fact !
did you now (diz that sound like MICKEY CANE?)
thit jakko tried tae ban the "west ham anthum"
am furevur blowin bubbles,iz he thot they wur takin the pish,strait up guvna!
n he sade"thats ma joab"
he piked up the glesga twang oan the " munkees ur us tour 1992"

Hey Pat, jacko also got into soapy bubble when he was alone in his mansion watching videos an goat "aladin" lol Timalloy

02 Sep 2011 19:39:50
Ed007, good news about Celtic getting reinstated, although no doubt Sion will appeal. Just listened to Hugh Keevins, he was his usual happy self, instead of wishing us well as a Scottish team and helping the Scottish coefficient, he went on about first game away in madrid, Celtic will be downhearted after getting beaten and tired for old firm game on the sunday. Come on Mr Keevins lighten up.
Other point Ed007, hope the board do not try and cash in with the fans, as i said about a week ago maximum ticket price should be £20 even at that price given a crowd of say 50,000 at all 3 games gives over £3m profit on top of UEFA bonuses, so come on Mr Lawwell do NOT be greedy. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - 'At least we still have our brown brogues'.........I nearly fell off my chair!!!!}

We would not make £3m profit. We would immediately loose 20% VAT which is £0.5m. We would then have all the running costs for the game. More like making £2m. {Ed007's Note - We would still be able to add money from TV revenue, merchandising, extra sponsorship and in stadium sales of programmes, food etc.}

Thanks fur that wee tim but.......

Unnamed poster, as Ed007 we would make a lot of extra revenue AFTER those deductions, remember also we get £1m just for reaching group stages and we will also get £700k for beating Sion, then if we do well in group we get money for points also. lawwell will know EXACTLY how much there is to gain Timalloy

02 Sep 2011 19:27:53
When cleared of assault on Neil Lennon, the Hearts fan thanked the worshipful master and brethren of the jury for their unbiased verdict. He then put on his sash and stood for the national anthem! {Ed007's Note - There is a picture of the jury:

www.celticrumours.co.uk/ar_95.php

If that ugly lot of c*ws had willies they'd be playing in Ranger's first team.

Here ed the cast of GLEE have let there selfs go LOL MACCA {Ed007's Note - LOL}

02 Sep 2011 19:20:29
Can't believe the farce that is UEFA...should have been kicked out in 1st leg ! Now the first game is 15th Sept away to Madrid & Sion can still appeal. By all accounts Sion president Christian Constantin is a nutter...

02 Sep 2011 18:11:56
Congrats on being reinstated lads.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - Thanks Sydney mate (Syd is another visitor from the Man Utd site lads).

Cheers Sydney mate,hope yous do one better in the Champions League this year.MACCA

Cheers staken pigmey that wiz devine (soary boays)

Tiny bubbles, hey pat was not the name of one your monkeys, or was it Michael jacksons? Timalloy

Timbo ma sun huv awee bit a respekt fur the potted heed! am gonae miss that wee talintit thing ye cood make um dae enythin bae jist crakin hum wae awhip,then thurs wee bubles,
ahl miss him tae

02 Sep 2011 18:09:49
Celtic got awarded 3-0 wins in each leg of the tie. If I was lawwell I would write to Uefa claiming that Hooper scored the 6 goals and then he can try and sell him for £29m in January lol. What do you think about that Ed?
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Samaras is trying to claim him, he knew all along what was going to happen so refused transfers the other day.}

Here ed ah hid thaem scores oan it ladbrokes n the basterds widnae paey oot am takin this furthir tae micky plat,
posso is a mans land
fleet ya bass

02 Sep 2011 17:58:07
Uefa are a Fu**ing joke they should have booted Sion out of Europe after the first game but i think they took it for granted Celtic would do the job for them then all they would have done was fine them now Celtic are made to look like the Fannys We should tell Uefa to shove their competition up their ar5e just to teach them a lesson but that will not happen cause money is more important than club honour {Ed007's Note - Also we would end up facing sanctions if we refused to take part.}

02 Sep 2011 17:51:59
Back in Europa League........but I'm not getting carried away. If we get thru the appeals we could easily lose 6 out of 6 games. I'd prefer if we focussed on the SPL and tried to do ourselves justice first. There are gonna be a lot of complainers as the Euro campaign develops and we fail to deliver. Don't say I didn't tell you all.

ChrisBhoy

02 Sep 2011 17:43:52
Minute silence before first europa league game for Jim White. Looks like a death in his family announcing us back in.

Wee jum naw he'l jist jump oot a windae eftur his manikure pp

02 Sep 2011 17:32:38
Hello Ed, I believe Victor Wanyama and Kelvin Wilson should play in defence together, got 2 great right backs in Mathews and Mark wilson, the new left back is pretty decent, I think Cha would be great at right mid, dunno what do you think, he's fast, good crosser and always has a willingness to get forward, and our midfield is class don't need to say it, Hooper and Bangura up front, ... Daniel Majstorović should retire, spl players are too good for him, he's slow, dim witted, and can't head the ball properly, how many chances at corners has he fluffed ? His timing in challenges is shocking...! Hope we get a good result at the hearing today...Hail Hail :) Gaz {Ed007's Note - Anyone with Wilson is better than Majstorovic Gaz, and you have probably heard about the hearing :-)

02 Sep 2011 16:52:59
The whole celtic team put together isn't even worth 29 million so i don't see the logic in Lawell making fun of a bid for quite clearly the best striker in scotland by a country mile!! I'm really really p@!sed off at how the club is as a whole. Lennon is inadequate as a manager and makes a fool of himself every time he speaks to the press, especially after a defeat and if lawell is leading by example with his remarks then Lennon's childish behaviour is no surprise!!

Rangers will win the league AGAIN, even though they seem weakened, as the did the last 3 seasons!! {Ed007's Note - Nonsense.}

You are what is commonly know as a Vagina!

Naw a vaggy is aeways haundy specially wen theyv jist came oan like period face who rote that s**te (sorrie wrang hole)
pp
whits that smell,ur is it jist me .... aye its me

HMRC will soon determine how MUCH Rangers are worth lol , don't think it will be enough to pay the £24m if you lose the 2nd case .

02 Sep 2011 16:43:31
OMG i see what u mean Ed, the "29 Million bid for hooper" was lawell having a joke. If u actually read the article he said "We've received a bid from an unknown club,from an unknown league, from an unknown universe" Wow do you people actually belive everything you read?? If so buy the sun, lots of TRUE stories from the 1st page to the last!!

Ed I truly feel sorry for you bud

Chrisbhoy67 {Ed007's Note - ;-)

Ed007 I gather over the past 24 hours or so you have come across some "nuggets" if these are valuable, please remember the regulars, can I put my claim in now LOL Timalloy {Ed007's Note - There are a few nuggets Tim mate.}

02 Sep 2011 16:01:18
ref
{Ed007's Note - There is no guess, that's who it was, and the rumour about it being LFC are 100% nonsense. LFC never had any interest in player what so ever.}

maybe you can tell us all ed how you know that Liverpool had no interest and it is 100% nonsense as far as i can see you have no idea what goes on at your own club so what makes you an expert on the going ons at LFC {Ed007's Note - Who said it was LFC?? Tell them I said they are lying, just like Gordon Smith was.}

You haven't answered the question Ed how can you be sure do you have inside information or is it a guess why should anyone believe you over anyone else can you prove its 100% nonsense why dont you just prove your point and make Rangers look the silly billys they are imagine the headlines Celtic Ed Exposes Rangers Over 9 Million Jelavic Bid. how satisfying would that be {Ed007's Note - I can guarantee you that LFC never had any interest what so ever in Jelavic, how I know this is of no concern, phone the 'red tops' lol I would have no concern over that. It came from the same person who told me about CA going to LFC and kept me up to date on the Bellamy situation since he started negotiating his move there last week. The same person also told me about Nasri going to City, if you look back through the Arsenal and Man Utd archives you will see that English Eds and myself knew about Nasris medical for them long before even the much glorified SSN carried the story.}

The sun has said it was Liverpool but we all know they lie through their teeth unless its something positive about Celtic they write then its the god given truth {Ed007's Note - The S*n and LFC? If you knew the history between the two of them it is glaringly obvious that there is NO CHANCE of them having any insight into LFC what so ever.}

Ed what i dont get is,KD is in all the papers today talking about how the scottish game is looking up,but not one reporter asked him if he was interested in Jelavic or put a bid in,not even the SUN reporter.MACCA {Ed007's Note - Strange that MACCA isn't it??}

Its just a pity Mulder and Scully have retired this is def.one for the X-FILES.MACCA

02 Sep 2011 15:27:38
ps ed the other problem here is the SFA.... they are BIG time jobbybags when it comes to standing up to UEFA they bend over whatever way EFA ttells them and take their medicine every time. The example of hearts having to play at murrayfield summed it up for me .... when you you look at some of the middens the old firm have played at over the years its clear that not all countries suck up uefa rectal pipe the way SFA do.

Its a real shame the way football is developing!

Germinator {Ed007's Note - And that is with a Scotsman as UEFA General Secretary.}

02 Sep 2011 14:21:06
Ed007, read in Evening Times that Sion President, may take UEFA to a civil court and get group stages suspended. I was of the opinion that if a club went to court UEFA would throw them out, what is the position regarding court cases and clubs, give us your best guess, thanks Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Sion have already broken the UEFA/FIFA stature that forbids taking the governing bodies to court. I honestly don't know what will happen but I can't see how UEFA can not expel them as they had been told before hand that the players were ineligible. It will be interesting to see the outcome.}

Cheers Ed007, as you say lets see if they follow their own rules. hail hail timalloy

Hi ed/Tim, gers man here but just passing on info that iv heard. Iv heard they will be thrown out of europe next year ?!

We all know that this clown Sion chairman is a nutter, he has taken uefa to court umpteen times ... but has never lost a case ! Mix that with the fact that they are also based in Switzerland means they have a good chance of being favoured. Face it Gers and celts just dont aint of the same influence in world football as we once were.... uefa doesnt care bout us at all.. Now i aint gonna lie i dont have much sympathy with you as i feel if u deserved to go thro you would have won. But this should never have even gotten this far the second they were on the team sheet the team should have been thrown out .... the thing is that its UEFA tournie, they make the rules and can change them at any time so they do have the power to do this but choose not to .... why?! i feel we will never find out!

Germinator {Ed007's Note - I heard that as well but it seems to have been dismissed in some quarters. The point is though that they DID field players that they knew would bring consequences for them. If they are not expelled it brings the whole integrity of the game as a whole into doubt. Rangers fans were banned from a European match for their singing and warned the club could be banned, yet coloured players have to put up with racist chants and abuse all over the continent every year, it smacks of double standards when you look at it with out the parochialism and 'point scoring' of Scottish football in the mix. No matter what the outcome, I think it could get very messy in the next few days etc. If Sion are not expelled, what is to stop CFC claiming damages from Sion/UEFA over loss of revenue through the courts? UEFA have said the players were ineligible and CFC believed them. If Sion are not expelled then it sets a precedent that the rule forbidding court action against the governing bodies is null and void, allowing any club to freely take them to court over anything that doesn't suit their club.}

I agree ed, all this "who gives a f**k about wee teams is gonna come back big time at some point. Do we really think that UEFA is fair lol one look at the champions league setup show you just what EUFA want. Has there been a team kicked out of europe over this and another team re-instated? ps i wonder if Barca would have the same problems if such a thing happened to them ..... the thing is ed i bet u laughed to yourself the same way i just did there! {Ed007's Note - UEFAs love affair with Barca sickens me.}

Germinator, welcom to the bhoys page, lets wait and see what UEFA decide, although i think most Celtic fans dont have much confidence, hope court is not sitting in edinburgh! hail hail Timalloy {Ed007's Note - They are saying it might be 7 o'clock before we hear.}

02 Sep 2011 11:10:17
Not a rumour just a big thank you Ed for all the hard work over the last few months. Being a mod on a Celtic site I know how they can dominate your time especially during the transfer window. Enjoy the quieter times ahead and well done for the calm and measured responses you give to the many fans and the occasional nutter. Enjoy the quieter times and roll on January. Hail Hail {Ed007's Note - Thanks very much mate, things will quieten down but the sites are still busy throughout the season}

Whit's happened to the Lpool pages there ed? Is it aw bunged up wi 'we're gonna win the league' punters or what ?
It's not moved since 8am. Is ed002 away fae an extended brunch oan the kings road?
Morning by the way.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Ed002 is off on her travels again, Ed001 says the LFC site is running fine though.}

Aye, away we go again. My 'we're gonna win the league post' has been bl**dy waiting here aw morning. Did u know we're gonna win the league this year ed by the way?
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - No chance, fifth or sixth if lucky :-)

To echo, and in the spirit of, the words of Jamesy Cotter after Scotland's defeat by Costa Rica at Italia 90 : "Costa Rica my arse. Awae to **** and get back to Africa".
Lol
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Scotland getting beat? Well there's a shock!!}

By the way ed, I didn't want to taint your good name (well with the U*d bods) with your lookie-likie link yday. Just 'undercover agent'. Lol. Mind you, if Rio's legal people get in touch, I'll sing like a canary. Lol.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - It was GAGUS from the Utd site that told me about it KB.}

Try telling that to the Judge, ed. Lol.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note -As long as the trial isn't held in Edinburgh I might have a chance!}

Afternoon Ed007, KB, I gather today is Bill Shankly's birthday, all TRUE football fans remember him with fondness, You'll Never Walk Alone. hail hail Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Afternoon Tim. You might like this mate ;-)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwhYl_o27og&feature=player_embedded

Cheers Tim. Shankly was a great man. My first ever match away at Carlisle in 1974, cup replay. We stood behind his dugout, my old man shouted hello bill and he waved.
The Real KB
ps what's Rio doing in the vid, ed !? {Ed007's Note - He always said he wanted to do acting when he retired, I think it was a cameo to see how it went.}

Ed007, thought Celtic fans would get a kick out of this chap! Timalloy

{Ed007's Note - That link didn't work Tim??}

Ed007 emailed you the link again Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Got it mate:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS0NiTOpEks&feature=player_embedded

02 Sep 2011 10:19:08
well if making jokes about bids that he has no idea of is what comforts him after watching what has been one of the poorest rangers teams since their existence mop up domestically whilst his team "celebrate" second then
long may it continue!

Germinator

See this german atur wiz that no a cross between gorge albertz n tony hopkins

02 Sep 2011 07:41:13
why are we so obsessed with rangers we should be worrying about our own team.no real signings,european results,falling crowds,lawell,s unglorified pop at another team{ rangers } and last but not least the inability to ofload that donkey samaras. we are all neil lennon

02 Sep 2011 00:26:56
Word is filtering through that Sion will be heavily fined but will keep their place in the group stages. Additional sanctions may happen as well. TBC.

Thats amazing considering a decision hasn't yet been made.

Lets be honest with ourselves here. We were not good enough over two legs and don't deserve to get back in. The club should stop this trying to get in the back door and concentrate on a domestic treble.

If sion win there case celtic should be able to sue due to lost finances . If Sion are found guilty and only fined the rules have been breached and the only loser's will be celtic . and i for one agree that we lost over 2 legs but the male who scored the 2 goal was not supposed to be registered and without him and the other 4 players they would have been a weaker team which would have giving celtic a better chance of winning.

If FIFA only fine them they would lose credability as both blatter and plattini have stated that sion should be put out and all transfer blocks will have to stop as the mean nothing , every team can just bye players and just take FIFA to court.

what do you think ED. {Ed001's Note - FIFA and UEFA have to act strongly to deter others, fielding an ineligible player usually means expulsion and the knocked out team reinstated.}

My opinion is that UEFA will do as they always do. Bend to the will of the most powerful forces acting upon it. They have disregarded rules before when it is politically advantageous. It is extremely likely they will find some middle ground for themselves whilst dropping Celtic in the poo. We are not a mighty football nation and we have no leverage politically. I do not expect to see my beloved Hoops reinstated. I am hoping and will be delighted if we are but my head says no. Just a quick word about comments regarding how we were beaten by the better team and should accept our fate and other such comment which to my mind is nonsense. No 1 We were very unlucky. No2 the referees gave us nothing. The first leg particularly was disgraceful and we all seem to have forgotten this in our new sense of European brotherhood. No 3 Effectively they have cheated by breaking a clear rule. Further they have flaunted the rules gone to their own courts (again another contravention) and are arrogantly goading Uefa and to a lesser extent FIFA. Could you imagine how this would have been received had Celtic tried to do the same thing. The whole thong stinks of vested interests, possible dodgy dealings and probably much worse besides. I am ever hopeful but fear a bad outcome and even worse the board and Mr Lawwell will just have to suck it up as if we fall out with the powers that be we will get even less favourable treatment than we get presently. We are probably on a par with Albania as regards influence in the corridors of power on the other hand the Swiss are running the show.

Amazing....now just the appeals to deal with...I wonder how that will go...:)