Celtic Banter Archive May 02 2019

 

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02 May 2019 22:19:59
Twitter rumour, Martin O'Neill and Lennon next season.

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02 May 2019 22:35:16
Twitter is talking pish.

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02 May 2019 22:56:38
Not for me.

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03 May 2019 00:20:46
Again I would rather a more ambitious move. MoN done brilliantly for us first time round but hasn't done great really since Villa. Forest has been worse since he took over too. And the funds available to him back then won't be available now.

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03 May 2019 09:07:50
Said before about never going back - but going back and back again?! We need to keep progressing and improve not look back and hope.

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03 May 2019 12:53:55
Anyone who has followed MO'N for the past 10 yrs wouldn't touch Martin with a forty foot pole . The enthusiasm he brought to Celtic last time round, has long since left him .
NO THANKS.

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03 May 2019 13:39:34
Michael Oneil it will be unfortunately.

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03 May 2019 18:03:05
Campsie Bhoy. It couldn't be Michael O'Neil could it .
Please God no.

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03 May 2019 22:31:35
Praying it’s not mate but the 2 people I know have said he’s the man that D. D wants and he has been spoken too! Cannot for the life of me see why!

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02 May 2019 22:08:31
Can anyone explain why we are punished equally with Sevco today for their bad losers attitude, violent aggression towards our players when we beat them at the asbestos dome. After all they received three red cards and Broony was formally judged not to have been unsportsmanlike?

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03 May 2019 11:33:34
Because we celebrating winning an important match in our own stadium with our own fans and sevco couldn't handle it and attacked our players . that's why we should take it the whole road.

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03 May 2019 13:10:35
This biased and totally slanted situation has been going on for as long as I can remember (and long before that) and it will persist unless Celtic eventually protest or simply say 'Hod on a wee minute'.
In this day and age, there is plenty 'video' evidence recorded from various sources - so it'e not just their word against ours.
It's fine saying our dominance and success is testament enough, but I would much prefer seeing our club stand up against corruption.

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05 May 2019 12:32:50
It's a total disgrace and Peter Lawwell needs to insist that the SFA makes public announcement explaining the thinking how Rangerss2012 with 4 people punished are not fined any more than Celtic whose team behaved impeccably even though it's captain and others were targeted.

Rangers2012 manager received a 1 match ban for targeting referee after the match . Celtic must make SFA address their bias towards Rangers immediately .
SFA set out to cheat is clear to everyone with a passing interest in football and it's obvious that on Friday evening that Beaton will cheat Celtic on Saturday like he did on December29th.

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02 May 2019 18:52:03
With the talk of missing out on hastie who's u tried at the highest level how do we know our own bhoy Morgan doesn't develope into a fine player the way Christie kicked on after a successful loan.

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02 May 2019 21:36:59
Morgan can stay at Sunderland or go back to St Mirren cause he’s rotten

Christie has been good at times but he’s far from coming good. See how he progresses next year and if he’s consistently good for the year then great for us but forgot about Morgan, send Arzani back and give some of the youth players game time.

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02 May 2019 22:22:09
Think Morgan might be the next big thing, can't understand people dismissing him as rotten, think he has a lot of potential, if he could end up being like his namesake Willie, wouldn't that be sonething.

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02 May 2019 23:08:15
Jeb your basingthis on what how many times have u seen him.

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03 May 2019 00:10:39
Christie has made a big difference this season. We look much more dangerous when he plays. There is a player in Morgan. Apparently he's been playing well down south.

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03 May 2019 00:27:05
Morgan hasn't really done anything at league 1 level. Hardly the next big thing. I'd much rather we stick with Forrest, Shved and Dembele. Loan out Johnston for the season in SPL as he looks to have much more potential.

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03 May 2019 10:15:38
Morgan will have gained more experience and confidence in the Sunderland team and has a close-season ahead to prove himself to the next manager and the same applies to several fringe players.
If the Board goes with NL, he will have already made his mind up about who will be in his plans; however, a new manager will have his own ideas and 'targets' in mind, so let's just wait and see?

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03 May 2019 10:48:57
Hopefully Morgan and young Mickey Johnston come good. I would loan them out to Aberdeen and Hibs,2 teams who are mostly on the front foot and will make them stronger when they play sevco and the bonus is they can't play against Celtic.
It worked with young Christie, when he came back a better player and also scored the winning goal for Aberdeen at ibrokes, the first Dons win there in nearly 30 years.

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03 May 2019 12:08:58
We should not loan Hibs one player ever again.

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03 May 2019 13:11:54
Morgan is a good player in my opinion and has got better at Sunderland watched a few games and he looks fast and direct definitely a good back up too Forrest and still young, shved will be number 1 lw with arzani back up but arzani can slot in behind the striker leaving Johnstone to play back up too shved, heyes and sinky should move on with praise for all they have for heyes has done well this season when he’s been called on but their is no place next season for him I don’t think.

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03 May 2019 13:19:32
After watching the youth team and under 23 dembele and oko flex are a mile off dembele should get a loan out at a championship club I think even if it’s only for 6 months same with oko flex aichison looks good and could do a job now but with griff eddy bayo and another forward coming in he would find playing time limited so a loan for him would be the best bet too, I think we will be a lot better next season play wise than this year a few players rb cb lb striker and we are sorted I think.

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03 May 2019 18:25:30
The vast majority of players we have loaned out over the last 20 years, have disappeared off the football scene and became lower English league or Scottish league players, many have dropped down to the Irish Leagues and many more have left the game . I know if I was a young footballer at Celtic Pk, I would put my gut out to get staying on at Celtic and hope for the K Tierney route to success.
I am sure Celtic can create a better home from home atmosphere for the youngsters than most clubs. The 4 young players signed by Celtic in January would have been happy with their game time until BR sulked away, his replacement hasn't given them much game time .
That can also happen at clubs we lend players out .

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02 May 2019 18:47:05
Good to see kt available for ss game hernia op at seasons end ruling him out of they daft internationals.

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02 May 2019 18:30:55
Ed, What would be the chances of getting Eddie Howe as manager? I understand Chelsea are interested but surly would be worth an approach? I don't really watch English football but the games I've seen Bournemouth in they play brilliant football and for how small a club they are they have certainly did well since being in the EPL. HH.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think Howe would be interested in the job.}

02 May 2019 20:10:30
I'm not knocking Eddie Howe or Sean Dyche for that matter but I think they are managing teams where not much is expected of them. As long as they scrape together enough points to stay in the league they are regarded as good managers regardless of how many times they lose or the quality of football they play.
At Celtic the pressure is on to win every game as well as qualifying for the Champions league, they would face a press and media who aren't very friendly towards us and would jump on them at the smallest thing.
I would rather have a manager who is used to winning week in and week out and can handle the pressure, not managers who seem to be in a comfort zone where winning one game in every four is seen as success, and, particularly in Dyche's case, where the style of football is awful to watch.

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02 May 2019 22:54:57
Was going to write almost word for word what gerryc wrote. Howe looks like a good young manager and I wouldn't rule him out based on his abilities, but its an entirely different environment with totally different pressures placed on him. I quite like the Cocu rumours that have been mentioned on here earlier though. He's done it at a big club before, brought through good young players and made them into top players. Although shamefully, I originally thought "He must have only just finished playing. " not realizing he retired 11 years ago! I'm getting old.

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02 May 2019 23:09:52
Like Martin when he came from the mighty Leicester and won everything.

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03 May 2019 10:29:48
Yeah just like Martin, coming from Leicester who had 4 top 10 finishes in a row following their promotion and two league cup victories in 4 years.

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02 May 2019 14:00:49
With real evidence of the link between Dementia and heading of a football over several years, coupled with the concussion rules highlighted again this week in the Tottenham game, should football clubs be doing more to protect all the players.

For me, another example is our handling of young Kieran Tierney, who would run through a brick wall for Celtic. He has suffered some horrendous tackles and injuries in the past couple of years, Celtic just patch him up and send him out to play again. The latest example is Kieran apparently needs a DOUBLE HERNIA operation, no little thing, yet the club seem prepared to risk more injury from him by playing in games including cup final, before sanctioning his operation.
If the boy needs major surgery, then schedule it IMMEDIATELY and give him the whole summer to recover and come back fit and healthy.

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02 May 2019 14:28:22
Look what happened with Malcolm MacDonald, kept getting cortisone injections so that he could play thru the pain, his knees were ruined later in life, if KT is injured, it's a disgrace if he is being forced to play, as for heading the ball, Andy Lynch was saying in the paper the other day, he used to feel punch-drunk and be seeing stars at the end of the session after doing so much heading practice during training, they will have to find some way of keeping heading to an absolute minimum, unless they ban it altogether.

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02 May 2019 17:10:55
Losing headers from football will never happen, it would change the game completely for the worse. There must be an improvement now with how light the balls are. As for teirney if he needs an op then im sure the club doctors can over rule coaches when it comes to the point they're asking him to play through injuries.

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02 May 2019 17:22:04
Out of the millions and millions of players who have played the game over the years how many have developed dementia or any other form of brain injury or disease? It would be s very tiny minute amount so going with the pc attitude now where does it stop? I have trouble with ingrown toe nails and sore feet put down to wearing football boots so much as a kid do we develop boots or limit the wearing of boots to cut out the risk of ingrown toe nails and sore feet? Honestly I sympathise with the loss to the Chalmers and McNeil families but honestly wtf?

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02 May 2019 18:41:52
Don't know if I have remembered this right, but a good number of the England world cup winning team got dementia, thing is don't think there has ever been a proper study, it might be a small insignificant number, of ex players that get dementia or it might be completely the opposite, it might be a huge percentage.

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02 May 2019 19:08:28
Don't know what the stats ate regarding dementia in woman but must be on par with the disease in men so my question is what is the link with football? . i just don't see any link TBH.

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{Ed007's Note - I obviously done a bit of reading up on dementia because of my mother-in-law a few years back and if my memory serves me correctly I read that women are more likely to develop dementia than men.}

02 May 2019 19:16:57
My gran got dementia in her 90’s she never played football or headed a ball maybe it’s just an age thing degeneration of the brain or just in your genes? As I said to much knee jerk reactions these days? I fully respect both your post Tim and andoh not trying to rock the boat but how can you possibly prove things like this? And then make claims we must do something about it like limit the amount of headers players make. I just think of my in grown toe nails? And wish a study was put in place for the risk of them when I was 10 years old? 😂.

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02 May 2019 20:22:46
Says it all then ED. can't see a connection with dementia and football. What I will say that heading those old leather football's must have dome some damage of sorts.

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{Ed007's Note - It must have had some effect. It doesn't do boxers any good getting punched about the head and when you think how many times a game guys were headering those balls between training and games.}

02 May 2019 21:40:04
The old style balls yes could be a potential factor especially when wet, hardly worried about health and safety back then compared to now.

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03 May 2019 05:45:38
Guys let's remember that years ago heading a wet ball was like heading a brick. I remember taking my uncles old bladder out to play football only if he had put dubbin on it the night before. They balls were like sponges. Anyway the balls they use now compared to years ago are so light. I think they need to do an infepth study first before any talk of banning headers.

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{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with weight, the new lighter balls move faster, much faster and so the force hitting your head is actually higher than it was with the heavier balls.}

03 May 2019 22:20:10
Never thought of that ed. Watching old games is like watching slow motion replays.

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{Ed001's Note - I hadn't until I spoke to someone who worked as a physio in the sport a while ago. Just hadn't occurred to me that the speed was that different until he showed me some information on it. The difference was marked even back 10 years or so ago, since then the balls have been developed to move through the air faster.}

02 May 2019 12:25:53
Mata out of contract at the end of the season.
I'd give my left baw to see him in the hoops
We can dream eh?

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02 May 2019 12:53:10
Some can have nightmares too.

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02 May 2019 14:12:52
Kev, I'd give my left baw for us to have the hoops in the first place. Yet again, our kit manufacturer have totally missed the point of our home top.
When can I buy it?

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02 May 2019 11:14:47
If we win the title this weekend I hope Captain Tavernier practices what he preaches and leads his team to give the Champions a guard of honour when we visit Ibrox next week. It was only a few seasons ago he had a go at an Alloa player for not clapping during a guard of honour for his team 🤣.

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02 May 2019 11:42:31
The alloa player not on loan from us?

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02 May 2019 17:59:25
They never did it last year so can't see them changing their minds this year. They can't understand that respect comes from respect and who respects a bitter team?

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02 May 2019 18:59:46
They never had any reason to do it last year we hadn't won the league until after we had played them.

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03 May 2019 18:58:41
We won by 11 points last year? if my memory is correct playing them on the 3rd last game of the season? so there for we would have won the league the time we played them.

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02 May 2019 10:22:09
I see we have triggered the extra year in Sinclair's contract. Ed do you think that it's for to sell or keep him for another year?

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{Ed007's Note - Sinclair had a year left on his deal so it was a new deal or be sold this summer, now there's been a years extension means he's got 2 years to run on his deal and can't leave for nothing next summer when I expect him to be sold.}

02 May 2019 09:37:54
Just a question guys, did we miss a trick by not making a move for Jake Hastie at Motherwell? I know we have a few in that position but at 19 the lad could become a top player. HH.

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02 May 2019 10:12:11
Looks a good player but i'm sure if he was better than what we have or Shved coming in he would be wearing green and white already so not concerned by him or anyone else that lot sign. We will be well aware of any player available so anyone they sign will be down to us not being interested. The papers will say they beat us to his signing but we all know that to be nonsense.

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02 May 2019 10:57:50
You can't be signing every player that shows a bit of promise and has a few good games for teams we beat regularly. We have been stung by this type of player in the past who only inflate the numbers in the squad and add to the wage bill. We are well covered in his position anyway. Quality not quantity is what's required.

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02 May 2019 11:16:43
Stevie see this comment teams we better regularly is daft because that means nothing.
We would miss out on some serious players if they club thought like that.
Just because they are in a poorer team than our doesn't mean there won't be players that enhance our squad or team.
Though I don't think the boy hastie is a major miss with the players we already have in that position.

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02 May 2019 11:34:42
I would like to think we're casting our net a lot further out than the SPL for potential recruitment.

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02 May 2019 11:43:29
Jenny it's obvious that we are but that shouldn't stop us looking at home either.

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02 May 2019 12:06:42
We will have watched Hastie numerous times so the fact he has gone to that lot says it all for me. We didn't want him. The Okoflex signing shows we are doing the groundwork behind the scenes when it comes to recruiting the best youths.

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02 May 2019 12:40:58
Also great to see we are getting the best of the Irish by signing Ben Quinn, wanted by Man City and other Premiership clubs. Hopefully that trend will continue in future if we are involved with Shamrock Rovers.

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02 May 2019 13:07:25
It's simple. There can be good players in SPL and low leagues.

Should we also be casting the net out further in terms of our budget? Yes absolutely.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't look at what's under our nose.

As I said before and got deleted for it. Ajax spent more money. as a result got a higher quality of player.

They remained a selling club however by spending more they were able to sell for higher prices also.

Which means both higher quality and higher profit.

We should be trying to do this to maximize our potential. Right now we are settling.

More transfer profit, better squad, more champions League football profit.

People assume cos we are making small profits it's a success. On paper maybe but we could be achieving more than we currently do.

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02 May 2019 14:11:10
Why sign bestie we have shved who will be a better player and Forrest who definitely is.

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02 May 2019 09:08:29
I think the new tops ok quite like the design.

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02 May 2019 11:44:23
I don't like the sleeves and shoulders. To much white. But rest of it nice.

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02 May 2019 12:50:31
A nice enough shirt but the club should be telling whoever designs our shirts having the hoops on the sleeves and having a certain amount of hoops on the shirt is a requirement. Our kits are starting to look like Sporting Lisbons these days. For me the 67 kit should be our template for any design, white shorts and socks. Exact amount of Hoops on the short with classy white collar. We should be showcasing our famous colours and design not hiding it.

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02 May 2019 17:11:09
Cant see why the big kick up about new kit. It's good to change the kit about so not always just same design and fans being ripped off. Barcelona have went from stripes to half and half, hoops and next year even checks they are a club who's colours are just as iconic to them as the hoops are to us and nowhere near the amount of moaning.

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02 May 2019 17:39:33
More the fools them.

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