Celtic Banter Archive February 02 2021

 

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02 Feb 2021 23:03:26
Tonight confirmed what we already knew - this is a very good Celtic team, regardless of how they have been playing. I think we all agree we need some freshness in the management structure but for me there is a lot to work with in the playing squad. Welsh looked very good and I was delighted for Ajeti to get his goal. Hopefully he and the team can kick on now. Too little, too late for the title but it would be nice to finish the season strongly.

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02 Feb 2021 23:24:09
Well siad Kev.

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03 Feb 2021 08:45:33
This is one of the reasons i wanted a change of manager because we do have a good team and a good squad, they have just underperformed.

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03 Feb 2021 08:49:35
That's what makes it even more infuriating. We have had the ability all season but we have lacked the desire among the squad on the pitch and we have been badly missing the leadership needed off it. HH.

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03 Feb 2021 10:25:50
Ajeti is a good goalscorer if he gets to play, sitting on the bench won't get him goals. I would play klimala and ajeti (I would play griff) but lennon won't but I def wouldn't play eddy anymore and play the guys who want to be here next season Turnbull and soro every day of the week in the middle of the park. keep alll the players who don't want to be here on the bench. Did big elhaned get a move. I was hoping he did because it must be really hard for him with no family here. Maybe celtic can do the decent thing and free him so he can get a new club at home.

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02 Feb 2021 22:15:24
Ment to say that was a stonewall pen in first half clancy looking straight at it prob evened out with the pen he gave tho.

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02 Feb 2021 22:36:57
Mally it’s a victory and clean sheet 👍.

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02 Feb 2021 23:07:12
yeah sevekev 67 agree but when was the last time we kept a clean sheet?

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03 Feb 2021 00:00:26
I agree mally, its not been anywhere good enough recently 👍but credit when credits due bud 👍.

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03 Feb 2021 00:01:36
Sorry ray 1963 not got my glasses on lol.

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03 Feb 2021 00:43:42
Hamilton. Literally a week ago.

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03 Feb 2021 09:36:01
Sevco are moaning about consistency when comparing Scott Brown and Morelos, why the feck can they not accept that Morelos should have been sent off against Dundee Utd for using his forearm on the Utd Player, his assault on Frimpong after about 3 minutes in the last Glasgow Derdy, and his challenge on Porteous which they accepted only because they were 23 points ahead in the league table.

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02 Feb 2021 22:12:16
Good performance broony immense and like rhe look of Kenny looks a proper rb . please build on it and go all out for the cup.

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02 Feb 2021 21:59:13
Big Fraser Forster will be glad he didn't start against Man. Utd.

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02 Feb 2021 22:09:37
If he did it would’ve finished goalless 😂.

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02 Feb 2021 23:03:46
Buzz that was brilliant .

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03 Feb 2021 10:10:22
Aye, I'd say the Southampton defence is that bad Duffy wouldn't look out of place down there.

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02 Feb 2021 21:42:49
thats got to be the back 4 for the rest of the season if fit.

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02 Feb 2021 23:26:15
Liam young Welsh again played a good game. Hope now lennon sees that this is his best back 4 and stop the chopping and changing.

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02 Feb 2021 21:40:04
It was a good result tonight for Celtic.
Kenny did well on his debut, he’s good at finding space for himself.
I’ve been saying for weeks that our strikers need to be given the full 90 minutes to improve their goal scoring record.
The most minutes Ajeti had played in a Celtic jersey before tonight was 78 minutes.
He goes on to get his goal because we was given the full 90 minutes.

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02 Feb 2021 21:47:54
in his interview he said he's had a lot of muscle injuries that's hampered him hopefully he can get a run now, he worked hard tonight.

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02 Feb 2021 20:33:13
Broony of old absolutely bossing the game and his team 👏🍀.

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02 Feb 2021 21:42:11
Nothing like the Brown of old, he played more like a defensive sweeper, did almost nothing in midfield, would have liked to see Soro come on at half time, it was another disjointed performance that ended with a good result that flattered to deceive.

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02 Feb 2021 21:48:21
Broon looked as fit as anybody on the park.

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02 Feb 2021 19:31:43
I'd be happy if they both turned it round but I still think we need a new manager 🤣🤣.

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02 Feb 2021 21:20:31
I agree gary 👍.

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02 Feb 2021 19:29:43
Fancy Ajeti for a goal tonight. Hopefully the start of a run of games for him.

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02 Feb 2021 19:24:01
I think we would all love to see Duffy turn it round. Nothing better than a fan of our club being successful at our club. 👍.

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{Ed007's Note - I take it "him" meant Duffy and not Lennon, Garry? 🤔

02 Feb 2021 18:44:03
To be fair you can see why he has went for that line up tonight. A core of Scottish players as it will be more of a battle tonight. Glad he has given duffy a rest. let's hope Christie shows he deserves a place in the team.

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02 Feb 2021 18:50:29
Gary I’d love to see big Duffy turn it around.

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02 Feb 2021 18:57:48
We all would J but think it's the right call and so is broony imo. hope young Welsh keeps his good form up as well think he's decent and not done much wrong.

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02 Feb 2021 19:07:14
Mally I think it’s the right call too.

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02 Feb 2021 19:34:00
It probably had to be done; but here we go again with a brand new back four and other changes from the St Mirren game.
The long list of our problems are well documented; but we have very rarely had a settled team - from back to front, game by game and that is something other teams have had the luxury of all season.

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02 Feb 2021 18:26:15
Nino Espirito Santos anyone? Current salary £4m just out our reach old salary £2.75m closer to what we could pay and if he gets sack from Wolves I genuinely feel he could be a realistic target with good attacking philosophy and knowledge of Portuguese market.
Would be a signing on intent from our new Chief Executive and I think £2m base salary with league win bonus of £500k and Champions league qualification of another £500k could tempt him.
All hypothetical atm but just thought he could be an ambitious achievable appointment.

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02 Feb 2021 18:56:56
Really impressed with the wolves side last year, and him gggg, but then you realise he spent over 100million. As we all Know we won’t spend anywhere near that. Decent manager though.

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02 Feb 2021 19:13:43
I can't see Wolves sack him but I would drive down myself to bring him here if he was to be our next manager.

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02 Feb 2021 22:08:38
Would be a massive upgrade. They was a joy to watch play lovely attacking football, very organized and tough to beat up until this season.

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02 Feb 2021
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Don’t know how accurate this is: Manager salaries?

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02 Feb 2021 18:27:15
No chance Lennon's on 200k p/ m. More like the 62k mcinnes is meant to be on.

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02 Feb 2021 19:05:42
No idea mate I’m just going on that.

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02 Feb 2021 17:14:22
Would AVB take the Celtic job in summer and would you take him? He hates Ntcham so that's a start lol.

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02 Feb 2021 17:55:28
Hope not he is nowhere near the manager he is made out to be.

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02 Feb 2021 18:08:25
Ryan Ntcham was top of my hit list but even I was buckled that the manager of the club that signed him resigned. That just about sums up our season! 😂.

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02 Feb 2021 18:10:19
If he ain’t happy with someone signing players he didn’t want them he will certainly not want to be with Celtic.

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{Ed007's Note - He had no control over transfers and knew that when he took the job.}

02 Feb 2021 18:29:12
Ntcham just tipped him over the edge though. He must've been satisfied with the arrangement up until yesterday. Managers don't like players downing tools either because there's nothing to stop them doing the same thing to them.

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02 Feb 2021 18:32:31
Hopefully see some awkward marseille training ground photos. Ntcham has been brought crashing back to down to earth lol.

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{Ed007's Note - @Caese. Read down the page a bit. AVB was already leaving Marseilles at the end of the season when his contract expired.}

02 Feb 2021 16:34:19
The more I watch the players, the more I am convinced that some of them should be investigated. If it was a movie you would suspect some corruption or blackmail being conducted for a team to play the way they did last season to the dross that is running about the park now. can't trap, can't cross, can't run, second to every loose ball. That's not tactics or shapes, that's just basic skills and these are supposed to be professionals. As for big Eddy, I would have his urine checked as I am convinced he is taking valium before stepping on to the park.

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{Ed007's Note - 😂😂

02 Feb 2021 17:03:49
Belter Tim 😂😂😂.

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02 Feb 2021 17:14:01
😭😂😂A few years back a few young lads were drug tested on site. After giving his urine sample he came out got his gear together and was saying his goodbyes as he had been on coke and whatever else all weekend. Just as he was going his gaffer shouted on him that his result was ok and get back. He was raging and said that drug dealers been fecking ripping me off then if I've passed. We all were in tears😂.

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02 Feb 2021 17:19:49
Tiny Tim
I think the majority of our supporters were relatively happy with our squad when the transfer window closed.
We probably all believed our squad of players were good enough to open up a lead until the January window.
Big Fraser was a very hard act to follow but to have an International goalkeeper take his place wasn’t bad on paper.
It really is hard to believe how bad Celtic have become in less than a year when the majority of the players are still at our club from last season.
There’s no doubt the Celtic supporters have been badly let down this season by our players and the management team.
I would also add the board to that list for not having a Plan B in place.
We’ve all got to wonder what happened to our playing staff during lockdown and thereafter?

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02 Feb 2021 19:12:29
TinyTim, I’ve been watching old firm classics on sky over the past 2/ 3 days and what is basically the same squad minus 2/ 3 that were beating them who also had more or less the same squad and it is obvious something is not right that a team can be so out of touch a few months on.

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02 Feb 2021 16:27:24
so ntcham did not want to be at our club he gets his move eventually then the manager of that club does not want him at that club haha.

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02 Feb 2021 17:28:47
Also think that Julien has something to do with the issues within the team. can't prove it but does seem possible that the French connection has unsettled parts of the team. Then again, wee Lenny has done as much damage as possible.

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02 Feb 2021 16:19:08
The bookies have installed John Kennedy as the joint favourite to be named the new Celtic manager.
I can’t see it happening with the record breaking amount of season ticket holders from last season needing to be renewed.

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02 Feb 2021 16:40:27
I would have thought we might have been a lot more ambitious in the summer, considering the huge job-in-hand and the only reason we have held-off is because this season has been so bad and a new manager, would prefer the unveiling and fanfare (like the previous manager) and not come in at the tail end of the failure to reach ten-in-a-row?

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02 Feb 2021 16:55:49
The bookies don't know any more than us.

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02 Feb 2021 17:02:35
Surely that is just the bookies trying to get some people jumping on a name? I really hope so anyway.

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{Ed007's Note - Check to see if it needs to be a permanent appointment, if not it might be worth a quid.}

02 Feb 2021 17:53:09
It's Next Permanent Manager Ed.
There's has been no serious money for anyone. The bookies have as much of a clue as we do hence the 5/ 2 the field.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍

02 Feb 2021 15:35:25
Did the Marseille manager just resign cos they signed ntcham? Can't be good for confidence that.

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{Ed007's Note - AVB is leaving in the summer but offered his resignation over Ntcham's signing.}

02 Feb 2021 16:03:58
He's been suspended reports sly.

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02 Feb 2021 16:11:04
Someone on social media was asking Celtic that,
How come they can get rid of the Marseille manager yet they can’t get rid of Neil Lennon.

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02 Feb 2021 16:25:18
Very good buzz bomb 😅.

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02 Feb 2021 17:08:01
Does anyone think AVB has offered his resignation because he didn't sanction the signing or he really did not want him because he didn't rate him like some reports say? I would say good on AVB if it was because he was not consulted on him coming to the club.

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{Ed002's Note - He knew his contract was not going to be renewed in the summer - Olivier Ntcham was Plan D for the club but Villas-Boas said he knew nothing of him and didn't want him - but transfers, like at most clubs, are not in his remit.}

02 Feb 2021 15:11:19
Ed is JJ Kenny just a stop gap signing? or is there a chance of him signing permanently? The way this season has been he will be a hit then goes back to Everton.

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{Ed007's Note - There's no option to buy that I know of so the chances are he'll go back to Everton but as we all expect big changes at the Club anything could happen.}

02 Feb 2021 15:39:21
Everton value him at £10 million but Kenny will be entering the last year of his Everton contract when his loan deal at Celtic expires.
He’ll find Scottish football easier but I wasn’t impressed when one of our other editors mentioned his forward play wasn’t the greatest and his crossing was his weakness.
It’s a good opportunity for the lad to get a regular game and hopefully he can prove some people wrong.

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02 Feb 2021 14:32:45
Hi guys am just awake from being night shift is the game still on tonight as it was snow when i finished this morning? If so my possible team

Bain

Kenny
Ajer
Welsh
Taylor

Brown
McGregor

Christie
Turnbull
Mio

Edouard.

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02 Feb 2021 15:14:01
No snow in killie pal.

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02 Feb 2021 16:14:41
Cool am in snowy Lanark.

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{Ed007's Note - You're from Lanark, Richy? That explains a lot..... 😉

02 Feb 2021 16:23:26
Like why Rich seems not to be able to get Google Ed? 😂.

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{Ed007's Note - If he is from Lanark that's the least of his problems 😁

02 Feb 2021 17:00:08
Poor Rich. You were giving him it tight (behave Ed) last night about that lassie signing when he was thinking it was a new signing for the first team 🙈😂
He hates a transfer window almost as much as predicting the team line up every game 😂
He’s some Bhoy. Site wouldn’t be the same without him 🤯🍀.

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{Ed007's Note - Aye he's a good lad 👍

02 Feb 2021 17:58:56
It’s quite funny but we’ve probably all got images of each other in our heads. I love Rich T picking the team especially at 4 o’clock in the morning. I have an image of Buzz Bomb with his head in a pile of Celtic books and a big stats calculator and his Celtic pyjamas. There are some right miserable b******s who shall remain nameless and quite a few angry men. There are a few Johnny negatives too. Then there’s Timalloy sitting with his racing post. Gerry with his carry out. Malika with his shorts on in Spain when the rest of us are frozen. Cork Paul and United Ireland always see the positive side. Ed sitting their with Yoda trying tae stop aw the weans fae fighting. Yet we’ve all got one thing in common. The live chat is hilarious it’s an absolute asylum. I’ve missed the games big time this year but the live chat is the next best thing. A green and white ‘One Flew Over The Cukoos Nest’. When the typing goes nuts coz everybody is half cut absolutely kills me! 😂😂😂.

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{Ed007's Note - The live chat is great mate and like the site it really helps me out with my mental health having all you guys to talk to and argue the toss with.}

02 Feb 2021 18:09:34
Ed 😂 👍.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍

02 Feb 2021 18:17:34
Ed on a serious note the banter page and the live chat have been absolutely priceless this year especially with the situation we’re in summed up by a fantastic food bank donation at Christmas. Thanks very much for your efforts.

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{Ed007's Note - It's all down to all of you mate and may God bless & keep safe everyone of you and your families 🙏 I only push a couple of buttons on a keyboard.}

02 Feb 2021 14:11:53
The stars have aligned Stuart Baxter has just became available.

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02 Feb 2021 14:22:18
You fancy him for a DoF role?

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02 Feb 2021 14:43:09
Can he play CB?

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02 Feb 2021 15:11:06
Celtic were wanting Stuart Baxter to help Lennon when he became our manager first time around.

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02 Feb 2021 16:23:25
That was my point Buzz. Was a total farce at the time.

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02 Feb 2021 16:25:18
Baxter was indeed a centre half for Preston NE .

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02 Feb 2021 13:42:44
Is it coincidence that we are losing games when brown is not in the team. I appreciate he has aged a bit and not the same player but who are the leaders atm. I don't rate mcgregor as captain. We need a brown type player - I like Soro but browns drive is missing atm.

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02 Feb 2021 14:29:05
He shouldn't be near the team tonight after his stupidity against Livi. His drive has been nonexistant all season unless you're referring to his needless shoulder drive against Aberdeen or driving his elbow into someones face the other week against Livi. The guy has completely lost it and his influence off the pitch is greater than it is on it now unfortunately.

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02 Feb 2021 14:55:10
Belbhoy Brown was starting vast majority of games up till December and we lost more games with Brown in team.

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{Ed007's Note - Buzz Bomb posted this earlier:

It’s similar records with or without Brown in the team.
Brown has started 24 games this season and Celtic have won 13 games which includes the Scottish cup final.
If we don’t include winning on penalties, Celtic have won 50% of the games in normal time in which Broony has started in this season.
Celtic have won 6 from 11 games when Turnbull and Soro have started the games in front of Brown.}

02 Feb 2021 13:25:35
Since we are stuck with Duffy, we need to make the best of it, I think he has accepted that he is at the tail end of his career, in his subconscious, and has lost the speed and sharpness that made him an international defender, think he needs to be dropped for a few weeks, and do some intensive, one to one speed training, and ball work, really intensive training, and if he likes a beer, that needs to stop, and maybe in a few weeks, we might have a decent centre half, but playing him the way he is, he is a weakness in defence, that the opposition will attempt to prey upon. Because the paradox is, he is the sort of character, we need in the team, but only if he can do his job.

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{Ed007's Note - Duffy turned 29 on New Year's day so I doubt he's accepted he is at the tail end of his career. I wouldn't say he's unfit either - well not any worse than the rest of the squad look. I think it's more psychological with him and he's playing with absolutely no confidence in himself. After losing his dad, he's signed for his boyhood club where he started well imo but after a couple of mistakes which weren't too bad his head slowly started dropping and you could see by his body language that he wasn't comfortable, he's been playing as if he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders.
I definitely think he needs a week or two on the sidelines and maybe talk through how he's feeling with someone, I imagine he's hurting and feels as if he's letting himself, his dad, friends & family maybe everyone down. He knows he hasn't shown the fans his best and it must be hurting him that his dream move hasn't worked out.
As is becoming the norm with the Celtic support the level of abuse aimed at Duffy is OTT, toxic and out of order.}

02 Feb 2021 14:03:59
Spot on Ed. To many fans are toxic at the moment and the personal abuse he and Lennon are getting online is Orc behaviour.

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02 Feb 2021 14:34:37
Is this on social media guys?

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{Ed007's Note - Social media & forums like this. I've deleted loads of posts abusing Lennon, Lawwell, Duffy, Brown etc etc I have also had to block some accounts, some of them are just the pathetic - remember these are apparently grown men - impostors but some aren't.}

02 Feb 2021 14:37:51
Ed 100% spot on it hasn’t worked out for big Duffy and I’m certain this season and his performances are hurting him as much as it’s hurting us. He and his family are Celtic daft. He’s very well thought of in his hometown too as a person. It must have broken his heart to run out onto Celtic Park where his father took him as a laddie in the same year that he lost him. I think that the weight of expectation and his loss have affected him massively. There are absolutely no words strong enough for the cretins that are abusing him on social media etc. As you say it seems to be acceptable behaviour for a sick and toxic section of our support. I hope the club can identify them and deal with them as personally I don’t want associated with them let alone sit in a stadium with them. Absolute low life’s. Decent fans should keep making the points you’ve made to shame and isolate them. Unjustified and unjustifiable over the top and out of order as you say.

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02 Feb 2021 14:38:01
best post i have seen in a long time on here ed007. duffy is a great player and all the above you have posted is why he is having a stinker at us this season. do you think we should sign him permanent in the summer and get behind him and let him become that player again.

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{Ed007's Note - It would be a big gamble but if Duffy can get some help there's no reason he couldn't improve for us.}

02 Feb 2021 14:39:44
I'd say 2nd half against St Mirren was probably his best 45 in a Celtic jersey imo. Although he's been at fault for a lot of goals this season the continuous tinkering hasn't helped with his form or confidence and playing with Bitton who isn't a CB isn't the best way forward either. We need a settled backline and having Ajer beside him and Kenny who is a more defense minded RB than Frimpong is will settle him down a bit.

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02 Feb 2021 15:00:34
If Duffy is not pyscological well at moment, Lennon shouldn't be throwing him under the bus by playing him. Its obvious he has got a lot going on with his dad dying and his son being in hospital. He needs time off to get himself sorted and not feel pressurised into playing.

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02 Feb 2021 16:31:01
I definitely still think there is a player in Duffy. I was delighted we signed him, however I think our style of plsy doesn't suit him and he was expected to hit the ground running. For me he was very much a marquee signing at the time s d I'd still be happy for him to be here next season depending on who the manager is.

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02 Feb 2021 16:42:07
I think there is a player in duffy he is old school but you need that along with players, all the times i've seen him he never lost headers but right now he's missing them and miss timing them it does seem unlike him, looks like a guy really trying too hard you can see his expressions when he makes a mistake, i hope he turns it around and shows us what he can do.

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02 Feb 2021 13:24:45
Ryan Christie has had a poor season.
He’s only scored one goal inside the oppositions box from open play all season.
Ryan was usually good at making good runs into the box and scoring when given the chance.
For the last 4 months he’s been getting played on the right to cover James Forrest which hasn’t helped his form.
Ryan has scored 2 wonder goals at Hampden, a free kick at Kilmarnock and a penalty away to Aberdeen and that single deflected shot from inside the box at home to Livingston at the start of the season.
Personally I think his tackle which caused the equaliser away at Livingston showed how committed Ryan is to our club.
I think Christie could be a good player but he’s one of many temperamental players Celtic have had playing for us this season.

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02 Feb 2021 14:55:41
We should stick with Moi for CAM as he's our joint top goalscorer and seems far more effective than Christie has been all season. We've been badly let down by all our key players this season. The spine of our team Edouard, Christie, McGregor, Brown have all been miles off it and Forrest's unfortunate injury and Jullien's injuries/ form has been our downfall and a shadow of the team that finished last season.

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02 Feb 2021 15:59:32
U can add Christie to the list above of ones getting the abuse, this guy earns a lot lot less than most around him but gets twice the abuse no wonder his form has dropped, he’ll go elsewhere and be a bumper imo.

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02 Feb 2021 12:33:35
Andre villas boas resigned because they signed ntcham when he didn’t want him. Do you think we could tempt him to come here if we let Marseilles keep ntcham 😂.

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{Ed007's Note - I seen that, Steph but it's the manager that signs players, right? 😉

02 Feb 2021 12:44:11
Haha what do u think about trying to get him to Glasgow, I’m sure I’ve read him singing our praises, maybe that was just Scotland in general cos he done his badges here or something but it’s worth asking the question?

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{Ed007's Note - AVB's a strange one, people rave about him but he's never shown much to warrant his reputation apart from at Porto and doesn't seem to have progressed as a coach the way it was expected. He got the sack from Chelsea after an independent review of the footballing department found his training methods weren't up to scratch and other behind the scenes issues, he destroyed a good Spurs team although in a revised version of history Tim Sherwood gets the blame but he was trying to clean up AVB's mess.
Marseilles are in 9th place in Ligue 1 which simply isn't good enough, he was planning to leave them in the summer but the Ntcham things seems to have tipped him over the edge.
Would he be a success in Scotland - probably yes. Would he demand higher professional standards across the board - yes simply because of the level he's used to working at. Would he stick around long enough to see a long term plan through - I doubt it, he would be off at the first sniff of a "bigger" job.
I also think he would be falling out with people left right and centre as he has a very confrontational personality.}

02 Feb 2021 12:55:03
is that why he resigned hahaha. i will resign as a celtic fan if he ever comes back to this club as well haha.

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02 Feb 2021 13:14:01
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ntcham the superstar firmly put in his place. No doubt we will be landed with Ntcham back at end of season.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think so, Phil.}

02 Feb 2021 15:01:20
Ed007 I pray that your right lol.

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{Ed007's Note - 😂

02 Feb 2021 12:30:48
The new CEO starts June1. You'd expect he'll be involved in manager discussions, so will he make himself available now or do we wait till June?
Will he want a DoF first?
Will the DoF want to be involved in manager discussions?
That's us easily into July and CL qualifiers started. Does that mean Lennon starts next season and gets the chance to take us out of the CL in the qualifiers for a third year in a row? That's 90m he's blown.
Is Lennon being given one more season?
Are we writing off next season to allow the new CEO to settle in or so we don't have to pay two managers?

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{Ed007's Note - McKay starts on July 1st, Degsy.}

02 Feb 2021 14:15:51
The new CEO will already be involved in what is going on in there even if he doesn't officially start to July. There will be meetings going on all the time to get him up to speed and a smooth hand over.

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02 Feb 2021 14:20:26
Far too late can he not be picking up the zoom call and be in discussions of his vision and be putting the chest pieces in place ready to strike?

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02 Feb 2021 14:48:42
Are we actually looking for a DoF? or is it just we hope that Celtic will appoint one?

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02 Feb 2021 12:25:40
A mate claims to have been told Lennon is on 1.8m a year and it doubles if he gets the ten. He gets it if he gets sacked before it's mathematically out of reach.
I don't believe those figures are even close to being accurate, but I've thought that situation could be the case for a while now. A large bonus if we get there, and gets it if he's sacked before anyone worse is crowned.
I know a report last week said 300k payoff, but no way he's only on that. And if they've agreed that figure why not just get rid?
Why would he agree 300k if he's got a years rolling contract?

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02 Feb 2021 12:34:56
I’m sure I read that both Lennon and gerrard are on £2.5 million per year.

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02 Feb 2021 12:47:52
I highly doubt Lennon OR Gerard are pulling close to 50k per week. Rodgers was on 60k apparently after his new deal and that was us pushing the boat out. Lennon will be lucky if he is getting 10k a week IMO.

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02 Feb 2021 13:00:06
I'd heard different. Apparently Rodgers was on 2.5m a year and Lennon 500k. Makes sense given we went for the cheap option.

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02 Feb 2021 15:52:49
Degsey you could be on too something there about why Celtic have not sacked him yet it might be possible that they are waiting on it being mathematically impossible for us to win the league to save money on bonuses I never thought of that as a reason.

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02 Feb 2021 17:51:23
I’ve just uploaded a picture on the sightings page, I googled lennons salary and that’s what came up. Not sure how reliable it is but it does say £2.4 million per year.

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02 Feb 2021 12:09:29
Bain Kenny ajer Welsh Taylor soro mcgregor turnbull moi eddy ajeti.

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02 Feb 2021 12:14:12
Just listing players?

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02 Feb 2021 12:56:22
@mally I'd go with that. Why don't Celtic have a contingency plan set up before we need it. This is the same thing every window. Nothing organised before the window as we are desperate.
So in Lenny's words. No more players leaving. Ntcham and our young goalkeeper. Have just left. Hmmmm
Our bench for subs is weaker than ever now.
IV got a feeling Lennon will play brown tonight hope I'm wrong.
Maybe now ntcham is gone French eddy will be more positive. With no negatives as they shared accommodations. So let's see what happens there now.

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02 Feb 2021 13:18:06
Got a feeling Andy he'll start brown.

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01 Feb 2021 22:48:30
Hi Ed, sorry for being a pain.
I was watching the Lennon interview regarding Lawwell leaving and McKay taking over.
I noticed that both Lennon and Brown mentioned that they have known for a while that Lawwell was leaving but Lennon then mentioned that he only found out McKay was taking over the same morning the rest of us did.
Is this telling in regards to the managers situation or would this be normal that the manager hasn't heard who the new man would be?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see any reason why any manager would need to know about incoming executives, those decisions are made by the board.}

02 Feb 2021 10:02:46
There's no where to look for blame other than ourselves this season and I'm certainly not trying to do so but you couldn't write it or make it up. The perfect storm indeed.

Reportedly one of the quietest transfer windows in Engerland for many years yet we still get gazumped for the one player we're interested in and badly need.

'Liverpool just happen to be missing experienced centre-backs Joel Matip out for the rest of the season and Virgil van Dijk and Joe Gomez out with long-term injuries while midfielder Fabinho who has been standing in at the back is also out. '

So Klopp turns his attention to the one man in our sights who it sounds like he's never heard of until we were interested.

Read this for a statement from Klopp.

'On the arrival of Davies from Championship side Preston Klopp said: "It's probably clear that in a normal transfer window without any issues we would not look at Preston [to see] if there's a player for us or something like that.

How arrogant is that.

" (But) since our situation got clearer and clearer - the problems we had - when we saw him we got really excited about it and thought: 'Wow. '

Aye did ye aye.

"We see the quality and we see the potential as well because he's 25 and there's a lot to come for him. "

How depressing is that.

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02 Feb 2021 10:20:06
JFP1888 I've got a feeling Davies will end up at sevco on loan next season.

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02 Feb 2021 10:23:01
my concern is the fact that so many clubs we try to do business with get disgruntled about the way we do it, Hibs with Mcginn, Preston with Davies. is this Hammonds approach or Lawwell trying to squeeze every penny out of a deal.

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{Ed007's Note - Why would Preston be disgruntled with Celtic when they done absolutely nothing wrong? Petrie and Dempster have left Hibs and taken their dislike of all things Celtic - and Petrie's personal hatred/jealousy of Lawwell - with them.}

02 Feb 2021 10:31:51
That's what I was thinking also Phil.

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02 Feb 2021 10:32:12
Why do we leave everything to the last minute of a transfer window, we knew that we needed a centre back, once we had identified Davies as what we needed, why didn't we offer what Preston wanted, why do we have to bother with faffing about talking about pre contracts, we could have had the deal done before Liverpool became aware of Davies.

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{Ed007's Note - Preston were adamant that Davies wasn't for sale and only the other day Alex Neil said he expected Davies to be there until the end of the season. We had agreed a pre-contract but it wasn't signed, once that was signed Celtic planned on opening talks with PNE about getting him in during this window.
No matter how much Celtic offered Davies was always going to Liverpool after they made their move and he told PNE he wanted to make the move to Merseyside.
There was no deal to do before Liverpool became involved and once they did the player had a choice to make, sign a pre-contract with us and probably stay at PNE until the summer or tell PNE he wanted to move to Liverpool.}

02 Feb 2021 10:45:26
Ed agreed bad bounce rather than bad business.

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{Ed007's Note - There was nothing Celtic could do once Liverpool got involved. Celtic went in for the pre-contract and a hope that PNE would fancy cutting their losses once that was signed. The guy's moved to one of the biggest clubs in the world, the current Pub League Champions that have been in 2 of the last 3 CL finals, he'll be getting wages that he probably thought he would never get near and the signing on fee will probably change his life alone - he hasn't even needed to move house or uproot his wife/gf and any kids they have.
But it's all Peter Lawwell's fault 🤦‍♂️
One of my mate's is still adamant that Lennon chooses who we sign, so I said to him who signed Barkas, he answers Lennon so I ask him who decided to not sign Ivan Toney and he said Lawwell 😂😂
So "bad" players we sign are Lennon's fault and good players we don't sign, well that's down to Lawwell.
I rest my case M'lud.}

02 Feb 2021 11:04:22
Why didn't they open talks with PNE first, offer them some exorbitant sum, that Preston can't refuse, then talk to the player, before Liverpool shows any interest, .

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02 Feb 2021 11:08:15
I'm sure I seen Preston said out of courtesy we let them know we was in discussions about a pre contract with Davies which we didn't need to do. So I don't get where these stories are coming from that Preston wasn't happy with how we do business. With Toney it was more down to Peterborough making our interest public so they could try start a bidding war which annoyed Lawwell.

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02 Feb 2021 11:09:29
Do we have an “ all eggs in one basket “ approach to signing targets? And why don’t we have a deadline on offers that would allow us do the deal or move to the next target. I get that these things are complicated but surely a club of our size should not be left dangling at the tail end of a window by players who are not exactly high end of the market. Don’t mean to be disrespectful to any player but we need to take more control of these situations, make an offer, set a deadline or move to next target.

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02 Feb 2021 11:50:37
I would of thought we would of got Davies pre contract and tied up a loan for another defender until the end of the season. Youd like to think there was a couple of defenders being looked at and not just relying on davies getting brought in. Liverpool offered a player in exchange aswell as money so im guessing that's how they got davies easier than what we would.
Maybe the uncertainty about what's happening at the club aswell has players not wanting to come in aswell. Frustrating but hopefully there's a youngster or two that will step up now, that would be the only thing good to come out of the season if we found someone who could make that step.

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02 Feb 2021 12:13:34
If we bid for him 2 days ago he would be a Celtic player it's as simple as that.

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{Ed007's Note - No he wouldn't because Preston would have rejected the offer as they didn't want to lose him and expected him to stay until the summer. The pre-contract was Celtic's bargaining tool when it came to trying to sign him in this window. Once Liverpool registered their interest the player told PNE he wanted the move, whether he would have done the same for Celtic if he had signed the pre-contract we'll never know.}

02 Feb 2021 12:18:20
Celtic have been free to talk to Davies since January 1. They could have started earlier than they did.
A report said 500k rising to 1.1m. We could afford that.

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{Ed007's Note - So when did Celtic start talks with Davies agent? The fee has nothing at all to do with it.}

02 Feb 2021 12:30:13
Ed. Only saying if we bid a solid offer then we would have got that accepted and had our man that's what I believe. clubs come out all the time and say we don't want to sell but it's not always the case.

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{Ed007's Note - Davies had to tell PNE he wanted to move to Liverpool - not quite a written transfer request - that's why they sold him. The player told them he wanted to move otherwise the chances are he would still be at PNE or if he signed our pre-contract Celtic would have then tried to sign him this window. Preston didn't want to sell him, there was no fee to offer or agree until the player himself told them he wanted the move to Liverpool.
This is nothing to do with money or when Celtic spoke to anyone, this is down to Ben Davies making a personal decision.}

02 Feb 2021 12:42:33
Do you think he would be a Celtic player right now if Liverpool didn't come in for him?

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{Ed007's Note - I think if he had signed the pre-contract there's a good chance of it, Liam.}

02 Feb 2021 13:01:15
Agreed ed.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍 Remember though, he didn't need to sign the pre-contract last month. He had 6 months to decide on that.}

02 Feb 2021 08:57:49
Pedro always says we like to come out the window stronger than we go in. well Pete not on yhis occasion Duffy a bombscare button injured julienne out for the season. ad go with Welsh and American and pray they stay fit.

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02 Feb 2021 09:40:25
It really seems that The Board have basically told NL 'That's your lot, now deal with it! ' - Possibly throwing in the towel and writing-off the rest of the season as well?
Up until now we have had no consistency, confidence or direction.
We face a fight for second place with players that have been spoiled by almost-guaranteed success and little domestic resistance.
There's a real fight ahead for second place with a squad that are not used to scrapping and have an atrocious defensive record.
Few supporters feel confident before games these days and after so many trophies and history written in recent years, second place and a cup would seem like some achievement in our current plight.

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02 Feb 2021 08:47:22
We all know (or at least hope) there is going to be a rebuild in the summer. Should we not have recalled the likes of O'Connor rb from tranmere, who can also play as sweeper / centre back, Afolabi cf from dundee, Robertson ( the whole Robertson scenario is just ridiculous as he prob won't play much for doncaster and was getting his game with gillingham) , even Shved and Hendry and gave them a run of games. The thinking is, these boys are all young and should be hungry to succeed. You give them the rest of the season and see if they can cut it. Your team could have been something like
Hazard O'Connor Ajer Hendry Taylor
Turnbull, Soro, McGregor, Shved,
Klimala, Afolabi. At least you could be trying to develop the youngsters in what's left of a disaster of a season. Just a thought. Or is it a case we can't do this as our youngsters are not good enough, our scouting is shockingly bad and our management team could only dream of knowing how to develop young players and coach them to make them better.

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02 Feb 2021 09:10:18
Gary don't think we can recall hendry and Agree young Robertson has been messed about no end.

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02 Feb 2021 09:42:11
Its good to see the young boys getting a game but we still have a fight on our hands to even finish second witch we need for champions league qualification that's just my opinion.

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02 Feb 2021 11:00:29
Afolabi came get near the Dundee team and now they have signed the joker man his opportunities will be limited. When our youngsters are struggling to game a game at that level no chance they are making it with us. Hopefully Robertson and o connor will be ready to challenge for a place next season.

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02 Feb 2021 08:41:14
Given our form, poor run of results and our inability to defend - if I were NL I would not only look at the league table but put it on the dressing room wall for all to see.

This bunch of 'players' who have been beaten in every competition we've been in so far this season are very capable of blowing 2nd place.

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02 Feb 2021 09:51:51
these players don't become bad players overnight. this is all down to an inept coach, they have lost respect for him as they know he does not have a clue.

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02 Feb 2021 07:52:53
is broonie available tonight, if so he must play.

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02 Feb 2021 08:30:32
He should be available tonight Davie after serving his 2 match ban for violent conduct.

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02 Feb 2021 10:58:28
How on earth must he play? He’s been terrible this year and only Duffy has played worse

He shouldn’t even be in the match day squad.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not saying he should be starting BUT for the sake of a wee $hit stir (and here's one for Buzz) hasn't our form been poorer since Brown's been dropped? How many games have we won with Soro and Turnbull in there?}

02 Feb 2021 11:02:35
Agree, the Broony bashing is ridiculous. Has our form improved without him? At least have one leader on the park. He is going to be very difficult to replace.

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02 Feb 2021 11:35:07
It’s similar records with or without Brown in the team.
Brown has started 24 games this season and Celtic have won 13 games which includes the Scottish cup final.
If we don’t include winning on penalties, Celtic have won 50% of the games in normal time in which Broony has started in this season.
Celtic have won 6 from 11 games when Turnbull and Soro have started the games in front of Brown.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers, BB 👍

02 Feb 2021 12:19:47
I've said this when everybody gives it the Lennon took to long for Turnbull and soro to be in the team which is fair enough but we've been just as poor with both in there.

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02 Feb 2021 12:51:32
Soro seems to me to be tiring after 50/ 60 mins? He's early twenties? Turnbull has been pretty ineffective last few games. Nice touches here and there but not grabbing games by himself. I keep reading we rebuild our team around. I reckon they squad players going forward Tho it's hard to make a balanced opinion about any of them at minute as we go from one disaster to next Just don't think we should be basing all our hopes for future on them.

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02 Feb 2021 07:43:48
Lennon now saying he doesn't look at the league table.
I think it's about time he fekkin did. HH.

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02 Feb 2021 06:54:05
Don't know how long I've known about this site, which I read for years daily before eventually beginning to occasionally post. Was thinking that the site is more anonymous than an AA meeting. At a meeting you may not know a friends name but you can see how old he is, whether male or female, you can guess a little bit to social status or economic stability helped by how he is dressed, type of car he drives etc. Even his accent can help place him geographically and there are other markers for sure.

Why did i say this? Because in here all I have is a type of nickname and nothing else to work with to create a mental picture. In a way it's good as it stops me from judging when i read opinions that i don't agree with as it could be written by a young teenager who can't even remember the last tme Celtic lost the league and therefore finds the idea of being runnerup unthinkable.

I am the wrong side of 60 and have experienced it all, good and bad. I grew up when my only contact with celtic was reading the reports of the games in the mainstream press or the celtic view, listening to matches on radio and occasionally getting across to Paradise with my old man or seeing a game on tv. Now with streaming i rarely miss a game. I think that whilst i love being able to watch celtic it has taken away some of the mystery and magic of listening to a game on the radio or checking how the game is going with teletext.

Over the years i have read a lot of anti-Lawell, anti-Lennon etc and whilst I agree their time has come I can honestly say that in my opinion no Celtic team has achieved what Celtic achieved under Lawell. We have had great teams, better than the invincibles in my opinion, who achieved little. We look about the team today and think they should be better because they are worth millions and bring a good profit when sold etc but is there any of our starting eleven who would have gotten into the Lisbon Lions team, the Quality Street gang or even more recently Martin O'Niells team?

A bunch of inferior players have achieved 9 in a row, a scottish invincible year (all competions) , a quadruple treble and all on Lawell's watch. I have to be honest and say that if i were neutral I would be glad Celtic imploded this year as they have taken the magic out of football. Is there anything magical now in winning a treble which until 5 years ago was like the holy grail? In every other league it is boring watching Juve, PSG, Bayern etc always win and i'm sure for the neutrals also Celtic winning everything was boring.

This has been a bad season for us all round but it can help to take away complacency or a feeling that we have some sort of divine right to always win. Paradise is no longer a fortress. The team needs a complete overhaul. don't think i will long enough to see any of our records broken. Celtic have brought us to the heights and as a consequence the fall has been hard and fast but we start again next season. COYBIG.

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02 Feb 2021 08:26:47
Totally agree donjim and I'm closer to 60 than I am a teenager. HH.

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