Celtic Banter Archive November 29 2020

29 Nov 2020 21:29:59
Just seen a video of the fans at CP. Daft tramps some of them making a fool of
The Football club.

29 Nov 2020 21:34:31
What manager will want the job after seeing that?

30 Nov 2020 07:39:32
The Green Brigade should of been dealt with years ago. I hope fans turn against them and weed them out of club.

30 Nov 2020 09:21:52
Embarrassing "haud me back pish" If they really wanted to get to the players cars they would've.

29 Nov 2020 21:06:06
The the people on here defending those thugs. If Lennon does go what manager is going to want this job after seeing that?

29 Nov 2020 20:29:12
The personal abuse being directed at Lennon is despicable and the idiots who just saw an opportunity to go to the stadium and cause trouble are a stain on the club but to say fans protesting after today's game is entitlement and embarrassing? Nah, not for me. We have a record of 2 wins in 10 games in what's meant to be the best season of our lives. We're supposed to be living through the pinnacle of Celtic's entire history bar Lisbon and we're watching it slip through our fingers with a gutless whimper. Neil Lennon is a Celtic legend and always will be. Most would have walked after some of the poison he was subjected to - in his first spell as manager in particular - but he stayed and deserves huge admiration for that. But this is 10 in a row and nobody is bigger than that. There's no room for sentimentality. It's clear as day the players have thrown him to the wolves but that was obvious weeks ago and he should have been removed from the post long before it ever came to this. I still had hope after the Rangers defeat but there are no signs that this can be turned around. Thanks for everything Neil, we revere you and wish you all the best but it's time to go. HH.

29 Nov 2020 20:17:03
Hope you've got the kettle on ed it's going to be a long one. This'll make transfer deadline day look like flag Day 🤣. Anyway. My sources tell me not only was big stubbsy in the Celtic TV studio earlier he's now wandereing the corridors of power clutching his shower bag muttering 'wheres that magical shower cubicle'.

{Ed007's Note - It's been a long day mate - I even said on the live chat that it was enough to drive me to full sugar Fanta!}

29 Nov 2020 21:02:52
Just when you think it can't get any worse .? Sh. t.

29 Nov 2020 19:22:19
Yes NL has to go, but can anyone make a case for us salvaging this league position.
Please ed make a case because I am toiling to make one.

{Ed007's Note - The league position isn't that bad, fans need to stop spending so much time concentrating on what TRIFK are doing.}

29 Nov 2020 20:10:09
If we can get someone in too steady the ship eds right the league position isn't too bad. If we win the 2 games in hand it's only 5 points. But the longer we wait to make changes the worse it will get. We will not win it with lennon in charge. The players have massively down tooled for him and clearly will not play for him. I've defended him, but its undefendable now. It's time for Lennon to go before it is too late. But I fear because of the violence outside celtic park the board may be stubborn and not want to give in to those wee neds.

{Ed007's Note - Lennon could sort it out, Milan on Thursday is a dead duck (but I'm already dreading the live chat 😥) so get a team on the park that have the guts for it, if Turnbull iand LG are available then he plays, get the likes of Welsh, Luca Connell, Henderson etc etc on the park and tell them they're playing for a starting slot against St. Johnstone, tell them to show some grit, determination and fight and force Lennon to make BIG decisions - the old pals act isn't working and I don't mean that against the likes of Brown, I mean that Lennon still hasn't been able to stop wanting to be one of the Bhoys and be their boss. I used to party like an animal and go to games and marches with guys I worked with but they knew come Monday morning if I was fit enough to turn up I was their boss and they had to respect that.
If Lawwell and DD are backing Lennon then it's time he called their bluff and said that he's only going to pick players that want to play for him and f**k the wasters transfer fees and egos.
I'd bet Timalloy's last pound there would be a change of attitude from the prima donna's over the next week or so.}

29 Nov 2020 20:23:18
Agree with Ed, league position is ok. We need to win games in hand though. actually been fortunate that a lot of these defeats have been in Europe and todays LC game.

After offering NL job in the shower, has anyone else heard that PL is on a flight to Italy. apparently Paulo DiCanio has just run a bath:)

29 Nov 2020 20:25:34
If Lennon stays I don't see us winning the league.

If we get a tactically astute manager in who the players respect and play for I think we will win the league.

Its all rosey across the city just now but let's see how they handle the pressure come February onwards. We have players who have been there and done it. For whatever reason they are not doing it for Lennon.

Flex our muscle to get the right manager and still got another transfer window I am not that worried about the league position as it stands. My view on this may change depending on who takes over from Lennon.

29 Nov 2020 20:38:16
Paulo Di Canio in the bath 😂.

29 Nov 2020 20:49:32
The season is far from over but only if something is done very soon in my opinion.
There seems to be a complacency from the boardroom down to the playing staff for a while now and the lack of fans inside the ground only seems to add to it.
After every disastrous result fans are looking for the club to do something to show that they are dealing with the situation but nothing seems to happen. Every game we play at the moment seems worse than the previous one. A week ago it seemed a bad result at Hibs, on Thursday we were worse against Prague, and now we are losing at home to Ross County.
I'm not saying we have a divine right to win any of these games but we do have a right to expect a level of performance from the players which has been missing for most of this season.
A lot of fans have paid out hard earned money to buy season tickets when it's likely most of them won't get to a game this season. In return for this gift it's surely not too much to ask that everyone at the club does their utmost to repay them.

29 Nov 2020 23:35:14
Can't afford any slip ups up until the game with them need max points otherwise NL has to go. He should be punted already. If we manage that and a win against them then it's looking like the league is back on. They have tough Jan fixtures and we will have our games in hand done by then. They're only cruising because they have such a healthy gap with our prosponed games the minute we catch back up their arses will go.

29 Nov 2020 19:30:22
First time poster
After today like most fans l think the time has come for Neil to go but for those so called fans outside abusing him with their songs hang your heads in shame, he has had enough abuse to put up with from all sections of Scotland without taking it from his own fans.
Remember when we needed him after the snake had gone he came and delivered (l myself think he should have gone at the end of that season) but yes this season has been shocking and he has to take the blame but a lot of the players should be looking in the mirror tonight as they do not look interested
Finally to those out side Celtic park l like a lot of supporters (l am 55) and those older than me we have been through much worse and have come back stronger.
Neil Lennon thanks for your service.

{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard, Jack.}

29 Nov 2020 19:58:08
Well said.

29 Nov 2020 20:12:43
Good post Jack.

29 Nov 2020 20:12:52
Well said Jack. God Bless. ☘️.

29 Nov 2020 19:15:15
On reflection of Neil Lennon's Celtic managerial career I would say he has been an extraordinarily lucky manager.

Previous games ICT, Ross County, Braga, Cluj etc will always be weighted against Lazio, Barcelona etc. but in the games we won in Europe we can generally put it down to luck rather than great displays.

He is a fan and overall been decent, I am appalled that "Celtic" fans have turned on him the way they have today, similarly, I am appalled that as a Celtic man Lennon did not hold his hands up a few weeks ago and leave - for me this shows there is a selfish part in him.

As it looks likely - NFL will not be Manager much longer but I would urge fans to remember the tough times he endured and offer him support when he leaves.

Celtic unbelievably will be starting a transition period in one of our most important seasons, not just in search for our historic 10 in a row but also the rewards of winning the league which looks to be a potential guaranteed seat at Europe's tip table. Then there is the challenges faced so far this year and it's continued disruption.

Celtic must get the next appointment right and for me it needs to be a manager willing to give 2-3years minimum of service to steady the ship and set us on our clear direction.

With two games in hand, a few " bounce" games in Europe and still a few Glasgow derbies we have time to fix this season.

Neil thank you but time to go.

Board - dig deep and sort this debacle and save this season - the rewards will be worth it.

Fans, remember Celtic is more than a Club. We are a family and a cause, in times of trouble you support your family and aid them through we don't add to the issues. Any "fans" storming Celtic Park need to have a hard look at themselves, they do not represent me and I would guess many others.

Let the next chapter commence ☘️.

29 Nov 2020 19:17:07
The club need to take action quickly and relieve Neil of his duties I don’t think many fans will disagree now. Personally I’d appoint Eddie Howe who has top league experience and deserves a chance at a bigger level to lay out a new vision beyond this year whilst still having a chance of delivering 10. Got to say Ed asking for coco and McNamara gave me a laugh, failure at derby and health concerns taking over this season😂😂.

29 Nov 2020 19:46:05
The club also need to take action against any so called 'fans' proven to be involved in violence outside Celtic park. No room for that at our club.

29 Nov 2020 19:52:22
Not really funny joking about McNamara Jim1972. Strange sense of humour.

{Ed007's Note - And that failure at Derby won three Dutch titles and 3 or 4 cups with PSV, Jim obviously doesn't know much about football. Would you take the coach that won the 2018 Dutch League Jim ya absolute moon unit?
Did Jim dance in the street when we appointed Brendan Rodgers who had won a Pub League play-off final and hee-haw else?}

29 Nov 2020 20:41:22
Not laughing at mcnamara just the fact would you seriously appoint someone with major health concerns this year to get 10 in a row with the pressure that comes with it? Touch a nerve Ed and do we dismiss a current failure with a guy who’s last job was to leave derby bottom of championship and everyone to say good call🤣🤣.

{Ed007's Note - If you bothered to read what I typed I mentioned McNamara's health problems but maybe a coaching role without the pressure of being the main man would do him well and his knowledge of the Scottish game would certainly help us.
Do you only rate managers by what they've done in England? Not many managers down there won their 3rd Dutch league title 2 years ago. You obviously don't know much about football so probably best we draw a veil over this because I can't be arsed arguing with people that don't know what they're talking about.
That's you btw.}

29 Nov 2020 22:12:57
Ed007 what Jim1972 is too naive to understand there is regularly players and managers of a quality standard who make moves that don't work out and kick-start their careers elsewhere. Had Chris Sutton's Chelsea transfer worked out, we would never of saw him at club.

I think Cocu would do well at Celtic.

{Ed007's Note - You don't beat Ajax to 3 league titles unless you know what you're doing imo Cocu with the right backing behind the scenes from the right kind of people would be a big step forward in bringing back the standards across the board Ronny started and Rodgers continued. He would need someone beside him who knows the Scottish game and Jackie Mac could do that job easily if his health allows it.}

29 Nov 2020 19:08:33
We can all as Celtic fans make our feelings known WITHOUT all these ugly scenes which only gives the press ammunition to humiliate our great club further.
A more peaceful and more effective way, is EVERY fan email Board and say unless positive change is made NO MORE BUYING OF SEASON TICKETS VIRTUAL OR OTHERWISE, NO BUYING OFFICIAL CLUB MERCHANDISE.

29 Nov 2020 19:01:51
Ralf Rangnick. Celtic break the bank and get him in. Best option out there.

{Ed007's Note - It's not going to happen but do you mean as manager/coach or as a DOF?}

29 Nov 2020 18:53:29
At least people can't blame Forrest for all our troubles. Everything started after we played Riga and he was injured. DD will have to throw quite a lot of money at a Manager to get him to come, both for his salary and new players. Steve Clarke is the only option available in Scotland and that will not be until the Summer. It looks like we will have to go for a German, with Paul Lambert as his assistant, to eventually take over.

{Ed007's Note - Unless Clarke - and his wife & family - have had a massive change of heart then there's more chance of Donald Findlay being the new gaffer than him.}

29 Nov 2020 19:08:53
We need a new CEO as well or this fiasco will happen again. Its a repeat of Mowbray and Deila.

We need an overhaul off the pitch in summer.

29 Nov 2020 19:11:16
Paul lambert! Away and don’t talk rubbish! As much as I admired him as a player he’s a clown who keeps pushing the oldco got punished for no reason pish! And he’s a pish manager!

29 Nov 2020 19:12:48
Who would you have in Ed? Realistically I mean.

{Ed007's Note - I honestly don't know mate, as I said somewhere else what about Phillip Cocu and Jackie McNamara (if his health problems are in the past) as his assistant?
I do think a lot of the managers who would be interested might be put off with the idea of coming in with the current situation and the 10IAR pressure so if Lennon leaves soon I think it would need to be someone "Celtic minded" until the end of the season - probably MON and Keane - then we need to reboot the whole Club next summer with a new CEO, a DOF in place to run the footballing department and to reinstall high professional standards at all levels, including the head coach and his team.}

29 Nov 2020 19:08:53
We need a new CEO as well or this fiasco will happen again. Its a repeat of Mowbray and Deila.

We need an overhaul off the pitch in summer.

{Ed007's Note - All the people clamouring for a new modern & forward thinking manager forget we had one with Ronny and players' egos drove him out. Do you think Lennon will get a job with the Man City footballing group let alone be near a head coach role?
The mistake with RD was appointing John Collins as his assistant.}

29 Nov 2020 19:11:16
Paul lambert! Away and don’t talk rubbish! As much as I admired him as a player he’s a clown who keeps pushing the oldco got punished for no reason pish! And he’s a pish manager!

{Ed007's Note - I'd rather have Keane without MON than Lambert!}

29 Nov 2020 19:37:08
Or the other mad donald, he's needing a new gig soon. he's about as delusional as our current manager and ceo.

29 Nov 2020 18:17:59
Disgusting scenes outside Parkhead just now. There are ways to vent your anger but this is not one of them.
We are supposed to have the best fans in the world, but this will tarnish that name.

29 Nov 2020 18:20:10
Best fans according to who?

29 Nov 2020 18:42:57
About time the players realised the fans aren't going to put up with those half arsed performances. Chance to be legends this year with the 10 and they haven't shown up all year. 2 days away from December its not acceptable
90% of those fans have probably paid for virtual season tickets, bought strips etc and been furloughed or even lost jobs while that mob are on 10-15k a week and playing like that. players Should be ashamed of themselves.

{Ed007's Note - Well said 👍

29 Nov 2020 18:46:42
And not a banner in site.

29 Nov 2020 18:59:00
That's a fairly big gathering maybe give the board a jolte . Ralph raginjck available sirry about spelling go get him.

29 Nov 2020 17:15:39
The player's as a unit, so far this season have been woeful and have done the Manager, Club and supporters a disservice.
Neil Lennon should leave by mutual agreement tonight and will be rightly remembered as a Celtic great, a servant of our club no matter the impact to him personally (death threats, bullets in the post and assaulted at Hearts) but to name a few.
He'll be remembered for what he's achieved as both a player and in two spells as Manager over the past 20 years.
Our board now need to step in and lead, put a manager in place until the end of this season, back him in the January transfer window and do everything possible to win this League Title.

29 Nov 2020 17:24:53
Nothing to do with coaching staff doing the players a disservice.

29 Nov 2020 17:28:47
Agreed Pedro as I’ve said before how he’s been treated since day one of his arrival in this country is to Scotland’s shame without us joining in. I’m sure as a fellow Celtic fan Neil Francis Lennon is feeling this every bit as much as the rest of us. But everything in this life has a beginning and an end and it time for Neil to call it a day. I’ve no doubt he’s given his best it’s just no longer good enough. As you say the players need to take a long hard look at themselves too.

29 Nov 2020 18:22:25
Take away the fact that the coaching/ management clearly isn't working. The only hope we have now of some sort of resurgence out of that group is to get a new man in charge. It's blatantly obvious.

29 Nov 2020 17:03:10
The players have let lennon down big time, but in the end he should never have been given the gig in the first place. he is an 80's manager and not a man manager. we all know where the blame lays with this. a change of management and backroom staff then hopefully these players might start to feel some pride about themselves.

29 Nov 2020 17:16:17
Along with Lawell. A Director of Football should be brought in but god knows who. The players are at fault but Lennon will take all the Flack alongside Lawell. The young team are outside the stadium going bonkers. Cue all the Daily Rags with C.V. story's blah blah blah. It shows how bad we have become when I'm not even bothered and expect the worst every game.

29 Nov 2020 17:19:06
I think that half of this team will be away by the end of this season no matter what happens or who comes in.

29 Nov 2020 17:25:36
A team just doesn't turn bad without a reason. That reason is Lennon.

29 Nov 2020 17:30:44
Wtf is an 80s manager?

29 Nov 2020 18:56:50
I'd imagine he means a shouter. You can't raise your voice to these wee snowflakes these days.

29 Nov 2020 17:00:22
Question is if lennon goes who realistically does anyone think we will get? Personally can see a temp manager until the end of the season think there will be a big turnaround in players leaving/ coming in. Maybe a permanent manager in the summer to put his stamp on it.

29 Nov 2020 17:12:21
i think they will go for Gordon Strachan as he knows the board. wether that will be a permanent fixture who knows. but they really do need to look outside the box and appoint someone with no connection to the club.

29 Nov 2020 17:13:37
They will bring in Strachan (not the answer) to play happy families with his son.

29 Nov 2020 17:21:25
Big difference now from when we appointed Rodgers, he was promised funds as we were sitting on big surplus, he was guaranteed CL as we were stick on to win league.
What can we entice a big name with now?
Cash surplus used for C.V. and CL failures, good chance no CL next season, half the squad wants to go.

29 Nov 2020 17:51:57
Disco Lights Paul the Tim and spreadsheets.

29 Nov 2020 16:35:52
Listening to Lennon on BBC Scotland.
He still thinks he's going to turn it around. Jaysus!

29 Nov 2020 16:40:20
Although he now admits his position could be in jeopardy. I wonder if DD and PL told him on Friday that today was a must win game. HH.

29 Nov 2020 16:53:49
they ain't got the balls.

29 Nov 2020 17:19:21
It’s all down to money with the board, how mush compensation to pay off Lenny and the financial package for a new management team! Get Biscuit tin out again.

29 Nov 2020 16:21:57
Over to you now Desmond/ Peter all's not lost, time for a response and get the 10.

29 Nov 2020 16:35:43
There’s as much chance of me going out with miss world tonight as there is of us winning anything this season, FACT.

29 Nov 2020 16:47:40
Oldkilly, I've just had Miss Sweden on the phone asking for you.

29 Nov 2020 16:49:29
Totally disagree oldkilly. After that result Lennon must be sacked so it'll be interesting to see who we bring in.
We have a really good squad of players vastly underperforming. I think with a change of manager we will see a massive improvement and I still fancy us to win the league.

29 Nov 2020 17:03:24
Can anyone recall a club anywhere who replaced their manager I'd season and went on to win the league.?
Maybe another first for celtic?

29 Nov 2020 17:12:51
Pedro 71 tell her At 72 I’m too old, we can only dream I’m like sevco I can’t get by a semi.

29 Nov 2020 18:48:41
Bayern munich did it a couple seasons ago.

29 Nov 2020 16:12:54
Embarrassing. Should never, ever have come to this. Like or loathe Rodgers, we replaced a top-notch manager with a guy so obviously at the other end of the scale. We were assured he was the solution despite most fans knowing deep down he wasn’t. He’s overseen more success but at the expense of clearly pulling the standards down. I don’t say this lightly but the only thing to be resolved now is do they sack him before, during or after his shower.

29 Nov 2020 16:06:51
What next? No man is bigger than the club, NL is harming the club and if he won't remove himself then it has to be done. The legacy of BR's time has worn off and its clear he can't get the same out of the players. Thanks for the memories but times up.

29 Nov 2020 16:17:58
Chinks67 Lennon will not resign because he would then lose out on compensation. The Board MUST now act, pay him off and wish him well for the future.
By the way Lawwell is as much to blame as Lennon.

29 Nov 2020 16:26:14
I feel sorry for all the support, I haven’t felt this sick in a long time. You keep telling yourself it’s a blip but today was absolutely shocking. Very very sad.

29 Nov 2020 16:40:12
Celtic losing normally annoys me for days but not today as I was expecting that result as I’m sure a lot of fans were apprehensive about today’s game.

29 Nov 2020 15:48:51
Buzz, have you got a stat on how many goals we've lost to set pieces this season?

29 Nov 2020 16:13:12
Too many. We are dire.

29 Nov 2020 16:14:44
Pedro
I make it 13 goals including penalties.

29 Nov 2020 13:00:21
It's fair to say the manager has his own ideas on team selection, choice/ timing of subs, or tactics and although I personally, rarely agree with most of his decisions, including his stubborness, playing Broony almost every single game: - he has been given a vote of confidence by the hierarchy to get us out of this mess - so we accept it and hope he can turn it around.
Today could be a banana skin, but if the team back their manager as much as they say in interviews, they must use today to show it.
There is absolutely no need today for two defensive midfield players in front of a back four and I would maybe bring Duffy back in for a confidence booster; therefor I would like to see this team:-
Barkas
Ajer Duffy Jullien Laxalt
Christie Cal-Mac Rogic MOI
Griffiths Eddy

I doubt NL would agree with it.

29 Nov 2020 14:56:55
He's doing a great job of it in his first 45min since being backed. Same old dross that's painful to watch. Same disorganized, sloppy, slow play with little cutting edge while defending terribly at the back. This is the worst we have been since Mowbray and NL has much better players at his disposal.

29 Nov 2020 15:12:15
Why Duffy? Is because he is Irish? Cause he certainly is not a good football player.

29 Nov 2020 00:17:32
Welcome back ed hope all is well . I don't post much but . I am feeling torn and I would like to know other posters honest feelings . I have seen/ followed the rubbish years maby not as long as others and I have enjoyed the good years . Now my heart will always follow but my head is truly messed up cos even through the rubbish years this feels different somehow and I don't even think it's cos we're chasing the 10. . I think it's a un commitment from top to bottom . 'we have always fought for a cause and now for some some reason to many of our players have forgot what the cause is . And the people above the players . . sorry rant over guys . A few beers eh lol.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate. Get yourself involved and posting more.}

29 Nov 2020 10:39:11
Morning guys I hope some of you were on my 66/ 1 each way tip Saturday The Hollow Ginge that returned us a nice 13/ 1 winning bet for finishing 4th
So keeping with the biggish each way horses in races paying extra places today I am putting up two horses at Fairyhouse who have been good to me in the past

Fairyhouse 2.05 Scoir Mear 12/ 1
Fairyhouse 2.05 Milan Native 11/ 1
Skybet and PP both go 6 places

I am also putting up a horse each way where you can get FOUR places in a SIX runner race at a decent price
Carlise 2.20 Presence Felt 11/ 1 (with the Betfair each way edge boost)
I hope I can earn you some extra cash today.

29 Nov 2020 11:16:21
TIM a friend from Alloa ad £100 on Alloa to beat Hearts in extra time at 14/ 1. Cashed out for £970 and kicking himself but still no a bad wee lift.

29 Nov 2020 11:37:26
@JFP1888 yes the Cash Out option can be a friend or a foe you have to judge it just right I too have cashed out too early but then again I have managed to get my cash out just in time before a team or horse let's your acca down.
But well done to your Alloa pal a nice wee profit against little sevco lol.

29 Nov 2020 07:39:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, By The Numbers: Leicester City