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29 May 2012 23:37:55
The sfa are in an impossible situation now surely they should have known if the transfer embargo was within their powers. the punishment must match the many crimes this shameless club have commited.. the L Bhoy..
They knew. D&P knew Green knows. The ajenda is to have Rangers expelled...pure and simple.
29 May 2012 23:16:20
all this talk of jordan rhodes coming is one lot of sh*t. it aint going to happen he will go to an EPL i think. allthough i hope im wrong!
Wilsybhoy
What EPL side would that be? defo one that's in the bottom half. Teams will not buy based on goals scored in lge 1.
come up here for 1-2 yrs, bang them in domesticly, elevated to scotland team, perform well in CL. Big EPL sides a calling in 24 months when he'll only be 24. Simples
Stevo
29 May 2012 22:52:10
When do you all get to eat your jelly and ice cream now timmys, come on ed 07 post this its only banter
JG {Ed007's Note - Don't beg, it is not becoming of you :-)
A slow lingering death rather than a quick one makes the jelly and ice cream far more enjoyable.
The corpse is slowly making it's way to the morgue.
K-Dot.
When the cva proposal gets thrown out and when the sfa/spl grow some balls and expel your corrupt club...straight after we dance on their grave
Mikey Bhoy
Plenty of time for the Jelly an Icecream party, go an burry your head back in the sand ( it's only banter)
Bigbr
29 May 2012 22:44:39
Ed I have a question see if rangers get this embargo lifted and get a different punishment. do you see any club willing to a deal with the shame without cash up front. I think no club anywhere will be willing to a deal with them anyway.
hail hail
Marco1888 {Ed007's Note - They need to exit administration to lift the embargo that goes with that as well Marco. A lot of clubs will be wary, even on Europe their reputation is in tatters over the Jelavic transfer. I think a lot of clubs would be looking for cash up front. That was the problem with Goodwillie singing for them, DU wanted the money upfront, there will be a few teams that wished they had done the same.}
29 May 2012 22:00:56
In his judgment today, Lord Glennie made reference to rule 62 in the SFA Judicial Panel Protocol which lays down a maximum fine of £1m and termination of membership for paying a match official more money than they are due. He then went on to draw a comparison between rule 62 and rule 66 which is the rule specifically dealing with the charge of bringing the game into disrepute – the charge under which the transfer embargo was imposed. He said, “There is no mention of suspensions, expulsions or ejection from the cup, and it makes no sense to have these sanctions spelled out in rule 62 but omitted from rule 66 if they were available.”
make of that what you will
29 May 2012 21:25:26
Ed is this Celtic site the only site you work for? You do seem to know your stuff and we know you don't work for any papers or that.
{Ed007's Note - This isn't work, it is a hobby, I actually 'work' on about 40 different sites. They aren't all football related though.}
Are you sure you don't work FOR 40 different companies?You know as a Company Secretary/Asset Stripper?
(You know who i mean,lol)
Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - I wish!!!}
Dear god not as a stripper {Ed007's Note - You wish!}
29 May 2012 21:04:19
who cares what happens to them ,the fact is we allways new they were cheating and now we are proved right ,but the first old firm game all celtic supporters should put in 50p to a pound and let the bhoys of the green brigade do a whole stadium theme, i no they the shame dont get red necks but the whole world will see what we realy think and show how unified we are in truth ,just a thought but everything starts somewhere ,my pounds in so is ther one of the bhoys from the brigade to bring it up ,jodrok
I would love that mate
Conor67
Do the stadium up like a courtroom.
Jungle Bhoy.
29 May 2012 20:52:03
Hello green friends. Long time no speak.
What did I miss?
daviet
Nothing much. Rangers still in admin.Â
Blue knights inÂ
Blue knights outÂ
Brian Kennedy in
Brian Kennedy out
Blue knights & Kennedy in
Blue knights & kennedy outÂ
Bill ng inÂ
Bill ng out
Bill miller inÂ
Bill miller stays inÂ
Bill miller outÂ
Charles green & his 20 pals from all over the world in.....Â
D&P still ripping the a*** out of rangers & sfa to scared to punish rangersÂ
Oh & whyte is still in the pictureÂ
Lenny
As long as it's nothing important then.
Keep up the good work fella
daviet
29 May 2012 20:43:16
So no Scottish Cup for Gers next season ? That's ok most fans wanted Gers to pull out anyway so no harm done :)
29 May 2012 20:25:14
looks like duff n duffur ur "DOOKIN FUR CHIPS""
WEER FRYIN TONITEEEEEEEEEEEE
iz auld kenny williams used tae say.
how ur you dudndurheid here you seen vera hey the nixt time ah hear fae hur iz thru a medium
29 May 2012 20:08:29
ed tell me if im wrong but eufa can now tell everybody else that doing trade with rangers can get them in hot water as ther finances are not in order and owe other euro teams under eufa rules im positive inter milan went through this correct me if im wrong {Ed007's Note - They may have, I don't really follow Italian football, it is dire to watch and corrupt to the core.}
Maybe the shame should move to italy then.
29 May 2012 20:06:45
To all tic fans here is how I see the state of play.
1 after today ruling there can only be two options suspension or expulsion .
2 if the shame get a cva then the big tax case hits it either back into admin or down to a new club.
3 uefa and fifa are watching ti make sure sfa and spl punish the shame
4 after the Mark daly show on bbc1 there can only be two options expulsion or relegation.
so all is good bhoys and ghirls
hail hail
Marco1888
Careful what you wish for Marco, I am beginning to see a football league so destroyed by this foolish clubs shenanigans, that we are all going to suffer from them. Remember Sion were eventually beaten back when Fifa & UEFA were about to ban the whole of Swiss football from competing in higher competition. After everything that the shame have done up to now, do you think they will stop because other clubs will be punished? I think not, they're not called the shame for nothing! MTH!
29 May 2012 20:06:15
"And euro 96 was such a great success"
Can somebody please explain how this has any relevance to the hooligans in Ukraine and Poland, I'm at a loss.
JFT96
Smithy
Maybe the links between England hooligans and polish/Ukraine hooligans is closer than you think, England get beat by Germany and the news is riddled with England ' fans ' attacking German made cars, attacking anyone who sounds German etc etc, England has its footballing problems
29 May 2012 18:49:08
FIFA has warned the Scottish Football Association it must take action after Rangers' use of the law courts to challenge a registration embargo.
The Scottish Premier League side won a case at the Court of Session on Tuesday, with a judge ruling the Scottish FA had no power to impose a signing ban on the club for bringing the game into disrepute.
A statement from FIFA read: "At the time of writing we have not received any communication from the Scottish FA.
"In such a case, FIFA will ask the Member Association to take action so that the club withdraws its request from the ordinary courts.
"As a general rule, in case a club is seeking redress in front of ordinary court, as mentioned above the Member Association shall take direct action in order to safeguard the principle laid down in art. 64 par. 2 of
FIFA Statutes, which shall be, in view of art.
64 par. 3 incorporated in the Member Associations’ Statutes.
"FIFA will closely monitor the situation so that the issue is resolved as fast as possible."
Rangers' case will now be referred back to the original appeal tribunal, which has been ordered to operate within the framework which exists.
Rule 66 allows for a maximum fine of £100,000 to be imposed, as well as ejection from the Scottish Cup, a suspension, expulsion from participation in the game and/or termination of SFA membership.
29 May 2012 19:17:07
Aww ed pissing myself laughing at the other mob. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Think al go and lay down comedy gold. SFA tried their best to help them. Bigirishmac. Come on you bhoys in green. {Ed007's Note - That is what seems to have passed them by BIM.}
29 May 2012 19:08:44
hello troops. im surely not the only hoops fan that hopes rangers can sign players next season?. sick of all the bears moaning bout tainted titles, administration handed us the league etc etc.ill be quite happy when we win the league next season , new rangers squad and all. wonder what the excuses will be in 10 months time. great site ed.
I would think you were the only hoops fan who hopes they can sign players next season . Who gives a sh!t if they are moaning about titles etc . They deserve everything coming to them........DH
Agreed DH.
I've been saying to fellow Bears that we've prided ourselves on you guys "knowing all about your troubles" but us "fighting til the day is done", etc I embarrassed by the whole thing. Seriously. It's not even "news" these days.
Rangers fans need to wake up and understand that we've broken rules and need to be punished. I thought the transfer embargo was harsh, but it was probably fair on the whole. I understand the counter-argument that the panel did not have that punishment available and could not hand it down though.
I think we may be expelled from the SFA cup for a year. Why they didn't do this initially I don't know.
Wail Wail
daviet
29 May 2012 19:08:21
So the embargo should be lifted says the wise man!Because it wasnt in the list of possible sanctions!But did the Dunderheids at D&P realiize the other possible sanctions namely Suspension or Expulsion. Think EUFA are going to get involved no need for FIFA to get involved Eufa is more than capable! Out of the frying pan into the Fire Methinks
29 May 2012 18:48:09
Let's all guess what punishment Rangers will receive from the SFA my money will be yet another slap on the wrist, no Scottish Cup Football, let's hope FIFA request a more severe punishment.
Bigbr
29 May 2012 18:39:32
Hello Ed - hope ur legs no givin ye too much jip with all the opinions and rumours of fellow Hoops floodin in ( I think this is one of the busiest sites of the lot) Anyway, You said all along that you doubted Rangers would fold and die and the longer this farcical pantomime may confirm this.
I reckon if they are allowed to pay the likes of HMRC 11p in the pound - and that alone opens the door for tax evaders galore and the transfer embargo is relaxed in any shape or form then Chaos reigns and it's a carte blanche for 'Chancers Inc.'
I seriously doubt the SFA and SPL will 'bottle it' amid various pressure groups and it will be very interesting to hear the 'reasons' for their decision.
I think there will be sabre rattling and mock indignation to try and save face, meanwhile.
All I want is to see the guilty punished and an end to the monotonous saga.
My boy is a Blue-Nose and he has been worried sick about the disclosures and revelations so for his sake I hope it is resolved fairly and quickly.
Jungle Jim {Ed007's Note - Hi Jim mate, my leg is not bad thanks. The strangest administration in the history of business has taken another twist today.}
29 May 2012 17:59:53
There are several other options open the sfa other than throwing rangers out
It says on stv they can impose a 100,000 pound fine or suspension from the Scottish cup
What ever they pick, they will not through rangers out, the spl can't survive without rangers and Celtic FACT! This was shown earlier in the season when rangers delayed their ticket money that dunfermline were intitled to and it led to dunfermline not being able to pay their players {Ed007's Note - It might be taken out of the SFA's hands.}
Dunfermline couldn't pay their own players because Yorkston couldnt run a bath, living beyond their own means in Fife yet again, nothing to do with that other mob not paying their bills really, as every other team that were due cash did ok? no? yes? next..
29 May 2012 18:34:12
here ed dae ye think thit we'l be "SION" the mob bak in court sssssssssssoooooooooooonnnnn?
get ti ed sion anytime??????
aw wtf
29 May 2012 17:55:50
d&p playing a blinder for cw they kid on they didnt know the uefa rules,looks like they want to go extinct with wee craigy picking the bones,byebye rangers bri67
29 May 2012 18:24:14
Hi all, just read on here rankers won appeal. What is the chances of them being kicked out of the spl now after this?
None at all id say the 11th commandment thou shalt not punish raa peepil,garlar07
29 May 2012 18:19:01
This isn't relevant to Celtic but I was just wondering with the goings on at Liverpool hiring a director of football... What does a director of football actually do? KT {Ed007's Note - Remember Kenny Dalglish at CFC when Barnes was 'coach'.........that!!!}
So what you are saying ed is a director of football plays golf a lot?
Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - Mibee aye.........mibee naw. Fancy a pint in Bairds to talk about Saturday's game? Please don't make me think of it all again lol.}
I forgot about his press conferences in Bairds.lol
Jungle Bhoy.
29 May 2012 18:12:11
"lets see the english kick off over ther no chance"
You are so wrong no name, the vast majority of Englands fans are going to Poland and Ukraine to watch football, not kick off. If you truely believe the crap you are talking you need help. This whole problem is because of the looney fans in Poland and Ukraine threatening the English with all sorts, nothing to do with us, so don't make out we are going looking for trouble it isn't true.
Also, by beating up helpless people, singing horrible, racist songs, and carrying knives doesn't make anybody tough, a pr!ck yes, but it makes them anything but the 'Ultras' they proclaim themselves to be. The whole thing is a shambles and yet again it will result in all football fans getting a bad name so people like you talking of England fans looking for trouble are just making this whole saga worse. Comparissons to Glasgow will proberly come soon enough, do you want that too?
JFT96
Smithy
And euro 96 was such a great success
29 May 2012 17:34:21
Lord Glennie found on Tuesday that the only sanctions available to the SFA were fine, expulsion from the game, being barred from the Scottish Cup and termination or suspension of the club's association membership.
29 May 2012 17:30:27
Well after today's court ruling it may well finally be time to say goodbye to rangers*.....Who's decision was it to go to court over the transfer ban? Whoever it was has surely just played as big a part in their downfall as David Murray and Craigy Whyte has, the final final nail in the coffin perhaps?
Mikey Bhoy
This is the end..but not the end we are looking for.
I am convinced now more than ever that RFC are going to slither out of this with hardly any comeback.and all i can say is ..bring em on!
I think you may be right, after reading more it's pretty obvious the punishment will be expelled from the Scottish cup which doesn't mean a thing as Sally can't win cup games anyway and a fine of £100,000 of which rangers* will pay a fiver
Mikey Bhoy
29 May 2012 17:30:24
how do mr 007?
please ed,tell me my ears didnt hear right.
snyde 1 news. rangers win appeal - ok fair enough.....now the penny stops at sfa now (but if the sfa run scottish footbal how can they not say that the transfer ban will/must stick ?
charley green offers 8.5m out to creditors making it 11p in the pound & until the 13th of june to agree or not.if they do accept & everything goes thought they will come out of admin on.........honestly i didnt make this up
12th of july........
lenny {Ed007's Note - I read that somewhere the other day lol.}
Rangers fan...... I'd happily take 3rd division football, or if the weak minded fools at the sfa want to keep us in the top flight, why not start us for the next 3 seasons with a - points? I'd say -25 points at the start of every season for 3 years maybe.
Cannonfodder
29 May 2012 17:20:08
Expelling Gers from league is not the "only other option". Expulsion from the Scottish Cup for a period of time is also another option, no doubt the most lenient option, but the only one in which wont be kicked out. I do think that the SFA will do this as they won't want to kick Gers out.
Whatever happens ( as a Gers fan ) I'm glad this has happened as it shows how much of a laughing stock the SFA are and surely Regan must now go.
Ps. If Gers are kicked out enjoy your 11-1 vote and sharing your profits with other clubs :)
I think they will get hit with the least punishment which is a fine but i hope FIFA pressure SFA to hit them harder.
Jungle Bhoy.
@op....well no matter what the voiting is at least we know that our club is going to be around for a VERY VERY LONG TIME, and we all know you are going to watch because your club is down the drain.
29 May 2012 16:44:15
all eyes on sfa now. can of worms well opened.
29 May 2012 16:33:37
So a judge has ruled that spl had no right to impose a transfer ban on the shame? What a joke! Once again the establishment in this country shows it's true colours and they're clearly orange and blue! It will be an absolute disgrace if they now get it overturned on appeal!
Green surfer
Green sufer,
A rather bigoted post don't you think?
The Gers have every right fighting that sanction as it wasn't even in place to be handed out.
You are just like every other sad little individual on here, you want Rangers hit with any punishment possible.....just because it's Rangers.
If this were Killie, St Johnstone, Hibs etc, you wouldn't be on here spewing so much hatred!!!!!
TTG
@TTG
" you want Rangers hit with any punishment possible."
After what has been occuring at Ibrox has been fully exposed , Rangers will be hit with EVERY punishment possible . Actually , no they won't .......
You cannot punish a team that has been liquidated and doesn't exist anymore .
Goodnight Dodo FC
jimi88
TTG..if this was any other club we wouldn't be having this conversation. Rangers (in my opinion) have only taken this action as they think they're too big to be expelled/suspended. What punishment do you think should have been handed down and what other club do you know have been charged with simialr offences ? Mrs E
@1: what hatred?
Guys DO NOT FEED this sad troll ttg, Timalloy
29 May 2012 16:31:29
spl had no right to impose transfer embargo , so they will have to go to the other option and kick their sorry arses out altogether.bb
29 May 2012 16:28:58
awrite ed how typical the judge rules that the sfa had no rite to impose transferfer emabargo, stef1967
29 May 2012 16:20:55
have won the first stage of their appeal , if the civl courts have backed them , uefa and fifa will hammer them and there is no appeal / redress aainst that..bb
29 May 2012 16:13:59
Court of sessions say SFA appeal had no right in law to apply embargo so have sent the decision back to them to reconsider.
29 May 2012 16:10:56
According to Sly spurts we are playing Real Madrid during the pre season usa tour.
St Mikey
29 May 2012 16:08:40
Real Madrid game is true bhoys aug 11th I looked at the fixtures n it's certainly not in any way good timing but I think it will be a cash cow! Officially announced on cfc page!
Cb
29 May 2012 15:19:20
So the CVA has been issued and look who are a secured creditor. How much will Whyte get as a back hander.
Administrators Duff & Phelps have accured operating charges and legal fees of over £5.5m and hold secure creditor status.
Ian
Wtf is going on with them....a CVA issued, but no-one knows how much they will receive??
they keep adding in this 'money owed to us for transfers, etc' but no-one in their right mind will be paying them a penny if there's a chance they could go down the tubes. so, it's ok to ask for money that is owed to them, but they will only pay a tiny fraction of what they owe? lol!!
well, i think we can expect a big fat resounding 'NON!' from the creditors.....they 'might' get a share of 8.5m, but when the BTC hits, then the cva fund has the potential to be of negative equity, therefore meaning they end up with 0 after all
please.....shut this sham of a charade down NOW!
taco
29 May 2012 14:27:23
From todays Scottish Daily Fail:
ADMINISTRATORS IN A STATE OF CONFUSION
The Rangers administrators admitted at the weekend they were 'unaware' that taking their case against the SFA to the Court of Session was against FIFA regulations and could incur further penalties.
Having already set in motion their bid to have the SFA's 12-month transfer embargo overturned, joint-administrator Paul Clark of Duff & Phelps then made the surprising admission that they hadn't realised the implications of such a move.
FIFA insist that such disputes should be resolved only by the Court of Arbitration for Sport and could come down heavily on SFA should they not take further action against the Ibrox club for their latest transgression.
It seems incredible that no one at Rangers was aware of the potential pitfalls of their legal challenge and despite Swiss side Sion, who Celtic replaced in the Europa League, having fought and lost a similar high-profile case last season.
Clark confessed: 'I don't know any of my team or lawyers were specifically aware of that.
'I wasn't aware of specifics. I do know that FIFA have a position where they look at the activities of individual associations.
'We are exploring all points on the transfer ban.'
Blind leading the blind springs to mind.
What a bunch of clowns!
HH
/BB
What Clark is basically saying is : The SFA have hammered us , so we'll f#ck them .
29 May 2012 13:58:03
Hi ed We have a bus that leaves from Belfast every two weeks at a recent meeting an over whelming majority voted to stay away from Scotish football if Rangers (ia) are allowed to ride roughshod over our beloved Celtic I am quite sure many other clubs will be in this position
29 May 2012 13:44:00
here ed av jist goat wind ae the fact thit sum very big rings ur oan thur waeaey up tae glesga,shhhhhh kin ye pit the wurd oot oan the st thiut wee pat will be lookin fur punturs fur thum .
get bak tae me asap
thur ment fur sum ulimpick thingy,
bit wtf
29 May 2012 13:31:01
Dave King and David Murray !!
This was posted on another football forum yesterday evening:
"Could the 'nuclear option' be linked to money laundering?"
“Well I have been debating all afternoon whether or not I should post this but here goes. My best friend is a solicitor and works for the foreign office and has told me that South Africa have applied for international arrest warrants for Dave King and David Murray. The foreign office have so far rejected all calls for this as the police, HMRC and SOCA are investigating what they say is one of the biggest money laundering schemes Scotland has ever seen and believe they have a case under UK jurisdiction.
South Africa believe that King has laundered up to £100 million through the Murray Group but my pal says as of yet there is no reason to believe any of the money went through Rangers. The money that has went through the Murray group may have bounced of up to 20 ‘dummy’ companies in countries like Barbados, Zimbabwe, Brazil and Scotland and were set up to buy ore metals from each other even though each company had no physical ore deposits. They apparently have rock solid evidence of this that would implicate King, King’s mother and David Murray. They are arguing that the people supposedly in charge of Kings trust are in fact fictional people as so far they have been unable to trace any of the declared trustees.
SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency) have had forensic investigators combing through Murray International holdings accounts for 6 months now and the list of possible money laundering just keeps growing. MURRAY SPORTS LIMITED which IS associated with Rangers have declared assets of under £10,000 yet have received loans of up to £40 million. There is no evidence to suggest this involves Dave King but certainly may indite Murray and apparently (I really have been doubting this) some very high ranking officials with the former Bank Of Scotland. Llyods have handed dossiers over to SOCA and the Police that show historic accounts from BOS handling of Murray Internationals accounts. The dossiers contained documents that BOS and Murray thought had been destroyed but the ‘Carbon Copies’ that were used to copy the hard documents where not destroyed and were digitalised when Llyods took over BOS.
Murray and King have had an injunction put in place to stop media reports on this and an appeal has been lodged by a major news organisation.
As soon as I find out any more I will let you guys know. The guy is my best friend and I have no reason to not believe him as he is very high ranking in his position.”
29 May 2012 12:45:14
i have just heard that a deal is done with the tax man that they are gonna take 20p in the pound ,i have a small contract and pay about 23 grand a year so thats me saving 20 grand if its good for them its good for me and i get to keep my name and assets ,just a word to lenny get out ther and spend spend spend its free money
29 May 2012 10:18:27
Just read the seperate reports of Jackson and Traynor in todays DR, relating to the CVA and to Green's investment prospectus.
This is not now bordering on the ridiculous, it is way, way beyond ridiculous.
I have to admit to totally pissing myself laughing in relation to some of the things Green is claiming in the prospectus.
Ed - do you know if the prospectus has been posted anywhere online. Would love to read the whole document.
K-Dot.
29 May 2012 10:35:48
can i just say why is celtic and rangers fined and presured in to sorting ther fans out for the secterian singing by eufa which i agree with ,but the poles ukrane italy even spain is rith with racism and dont seem to get touched, i think if this kicks off at euro 12 the blame must fall squarely at blatter and platoni s feet and as football fans should make sure this happens
29 May 2012 07:54:12
if they are granted a cva {stil dont think they'll get it} but if they do, after deliberately witholding tax and nic . what is to stop every team, company ,self employed in the country doing the same . hmrc could not refuse a cva for deliberately witholding monies . go into admin take a 10 point hit and £160,000 fine and save £20m a season. simples
29 May 2012 04:15:12
The American players were asked to do a random drug test prior to playing Scotland last Saturday , Maurice Edu panicked and gave them a sample of his bird's urine , the doctor said there's no trace of drugs , but you're up the duff wae Allan McGregor's wean .
29 May 2012 01:46:30
See Islam Feruz is upsetting alot of people in the sfaand also chelsea with his attitude according to the s*n, also says we got 1.5 million for him. Any thoughts on striking options now it looks like we will miss out on Rhodes? johnbhot79
According to the express he wants to knock back fulham for us, lennon has also supposibly agreed with the board after a meeting last year that he wants to be done
VerdeBrigadaBhoy
I dont think we got anything for the kid,ED do you know if thats true that we got 1.5 mill? cause im sure we got nothing. {Ed007's Note - We got a training compensation for Feruz, that would only be about £500k at the most, the £1.5 million is probably including add ons.}
29 May 2012 00:34:45
not heard from mccoist and smith for a while,maybe got a wee loan? bri67
Theyr in thur "luv shak!"
29 May 2012 00:01:17
So the shame yet again get another extension *groan* how long is this crap going to go on for ffs! HH
Cb