Celtic Banter Archive August 29 2015

 

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29 Aug 2015 21:07:09
Another average display today, but a few good points! I thought Rogic was pretty good and looks like he's a lot more confident!

I thought wee Izzy was really good too, always gets a hard time but defensively he was good and also had a total worldy of a defensive header when big Davidson tried to kill him. Stopped it getting back to 2-2 which could've been another disaster.

Would like to see another couple of additions to give fans a lift, do you think that's highly unlikely Ed?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know about giving the fans a lift but there will be more players to come.}

29 Aug 2015 21:43:22
Loans and panic buys I'll guess then!

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29 Aug 2015 23:34:41
Ed I hope your right. Il be shocked if we sign a striker

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{Ed007's Note - Like your good self I live in eternal hope, but I still think I've got a chance with Martine McCutcheon right enough so don't listen to me!}

30 Aug 2015 06:50:21
Mate Martine McCutheson? i'd settle for Bev out of corrie! Lol

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{Ed007's Note - Well each to their own I guess...

29 Aug 2015 20:57:09
Apologies if anyone has already mentioned it but what about Gordons double save near the end of today's game. Even Ed would have loved it. He got a deserved standing ovation.

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{Ed007's Note - *WORLD EXCLUSIVE: GOALKEEPER SAVES BALL & POPE OFFERS UP MASS TO CELEBRATE*

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29 Aug 2015 21:39:54
Think your being a bit unfair Ed. It was a superb double save and everyone who witnessed it gave a deserved applause. Bet you stillthink Griffiths is rubbish!

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{Ed007's Note - I don't care what you think, it was you that brought me into it and now you're off about Leigh Griffiths, try to stick to one subject at a time, you'll find it easier to concentrate on what you're trying to say.
Now seeing you're so keen in following what I say you'll have noticed the numerous times I've said that LG has improved as a player and impressed me, I also said he wasn't a CL level striker.
But as a man he still leaves a lot to be desired, he's hardly a role model for youngsters with his attitude and off field antics constantly dragging the name of the club through the mud and making headlines for the wrong reasons.
Did you applaud LG acting like a total knob and kneeing an opposition player in the groin over nothing - something he should have been red carded for.}

29 Aug 2015 21:40:23
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29 Aug 2015 22:12:18
Have to agree with Ed Gordon is overrated and Griffiths has improved a lot but he is spl standard that's about it am afraid

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30 Aug 2015 12:09:50
Your a bit touchy these days Ed. Think your a bit sore at anyone taking a pop at you. As for Gordon being over rated what a joke!!

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{Ed007's Note - If you think that's taking a pop at me you need to get out more mate,Β even my 14 year old niece could teach you a thing or two about put downs.
Why don't you try and explain your point of view or your opinion rather than pointless 1 or 2 line posts that add nothing to the thread, you know you're wrong so decide to attack me and posters personally rather than explain your point - or have you realised you don't actually have a point so you thought you'd try and be a smart ar$e but sadly you failed miserably at it?}

30 Aug 2015 13:59:47
Wrong about what. I stated Gordon made a fantastic double save in Saturday and had a dig at you. You've now went totally tonto!!

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{Ed007's Note - Why bring me into it at all? You've admitted you had a dig at me, why was that? Is what I think so imortant to to you and why's it ok for you to have a dig at me but I can't have one at you, do you think that's fair, do you think I'm here to just accept taking pops from the likes of you?
It's really quite simple, if you don't like what I say then don't read it, I'm bored with you now so run along and take digs at someone else, there must be a kid nearby you can practice your 'digs' on, it's not like you don't need it.
When was the last time a GK at CP got a standing ovation for saving a shot? It's pathetic, it's what he's supposed to do - have we fallen that far we're applauding every save Gordon makes? Pity there wasn't much in Europe to applaud him for, or losung us the treble or costing us CL football last year.}

30 Aug 2015 14:31:52
So from now on we shouldn't cheer any goals. After all that's what out field players should be doing. Going to be very quiet at football matches these days.

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{Ed007's Note - Now you're hallucinating and seeing words that aren't even there, point out where I said that? What next a tune over the tannoy because Gordon managed to find his goal before a match, how about a banner saying 'Well done on putting your gloves on the right hands'?
I couldn't care less if he got a standing ovation for performing an entire live version of The Wall in the centre circle at half time, is it 33 goals CG has conceded in Europe so far for CFC - God knows what that'll be after the EL.
But round of applause for making a couple of saves against St Johnstone - pity you couldn't applaud a clean sheet though but we don't get many of them with CG in goal do we?
Perhaps a wee Sunday afternoon nap would help you get back on track.}

30 Aug 2015 16:44:43
Fair enough Ed I'll not mention CG again as you obviously can't stand him.

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{Ed007's Note - I was expecting you to come back with a list of crucial saves and games games where CG has won us games, but again you decide to play the man rather than the ball, my opinion of CG is backed up with cold hard facts and stats, your admiration of him appears to be built around the fact I don't like him with nothing to back it up except that.
What have you mentioned in this thread that is positive about CG rather than just be negative about me?}

30 Aug 2015 22:00:32
I go with you on this one Ed. CG does pull off some good reactive saves but when it gets right down to the business end of being a goalkeeper he is lacking too many times for me. I know he is the last line of a group of defenders but too many basic errors for me.

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29 Aug 2015 19:56:35
Some great responses to the Fenerbahce fans from Celtic fans following the knife threats #thatsnotaknife

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29 Aug 2015 19:22:10
I see a lot of comments being posted about how we fill an empty Celtic park for league games. The answer is very simple. put a team on the park worth watching. Ronnie has been here for a year now. he promised exciting atacking football. Playing a pressure game that will yield goals. I don't necessarily blame the manager for the lack of progress)(I still have have not made my mind up whether Ronnie is the answer). Howvever I only see flashes off the football he promised(first goal against Malmo). Thousands of celtic fans have once again shown faith in the manager and board by investing in a season ticket. IMO that investment gives them the right to chose the games they want to watch,. Trust me if the quality of player reflected the investment celtic fans have made over the years,the ground would be full every week.

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{Ed007's Note - Has the board shown the same level of faith and investment as the fans?}

29 Aug 2015 21:29:53
That is my point Ed!! Time and time again we take a leap of faith pre season. Once again we rewarded with champions league failure, promising kids and loanees

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{Ed007's Note - Well give up your season ticket and just pick and choose what games you want to go to.}

29 Aug 2015 21:59:41
I'm sure there are a few who are. and quite right!

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{Ed007's Note - Good for them, it's nice to see people taking responsibility for their finances in these difficult times if they feel they aren't getting value for money, consumerism and the keeping up with the Jones' psyche is strangling the country as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. You'd be better heading to the pictures or playing golf on a Saturday, try to find a hobby you enjoy.
If you're ever not using your ticket you'll see suggestions about who might? Is there maybe an unemployed neighbour who would appreciate the chance to go and cheer on the team? Just chap his door and say you can't make it and does he fancy it for X game, the guy will most likely be delighted and you will feel a lot better for doing a heartfelt charitable deed, cleanse your wealth, Tony and reach out to others less fortunate than you.
It's mentioned in all major religions but if you read the Holy Bible, Matthew 19:24:
'And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.'
Embrace it mate, I can highly recommend the inner peace doing such selfless acts brings to your soul, and not a pat on the back, screaming how nice you are or a seat in the South Stand with the chosen few pat on the back, but the inner peace when you lie down at night to thank God for your life and knowing you've done something, no matter how small, to improve someone else's.
They don't give out medals for being a considerate and charitable person, the celebrities who collect them are self serving publicity whores - I'd love you to do it for your own piece of mind and contentment. It's like a snowball, I have tried to advice you, that's my good deed, if you pass on your ticket that's two good deeds from us and who knows what the recipient of the ticket would do as a good deed after being inspired by you.}

29 Aug 2015 17:49:55
Hi everyone, just thought I'd take some time out to tell you my thoughts on the Europa league group. Obviously disappointed doesn't come close to how I and everyone else will be feeling about missing out on CL but this group we find ourself in is a perfect opportunity to gain experience in Europe against good sides in electric atmospheres (not Molde that I know of). The young squad are clearly wet behind the ears when it comes to playing in Europe and I know this is no substitute for the proper European nights that we all wanted I think it could help out the players to no end. I don't know how much it would have benefitted celtic getting into the CL and getting humped in every game. Even although it's good to be there it's no fun getting beat and well beat at that. I know it wasn't a sure thing but imagine if celtic got the same group as MalmΓΆ did? Don't think they would have done to well IMO. Celtic will learn the European way the group members play and they are teams that cric could come up against in the groups or qualifying stages of the CL in the future. Like I said no substitute but it is what it is I'm afraid and I like to try and put as positive a spin on things and make the best of bad situations.

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{Ed007's Note - The quality of the opposition in our EL group is as good as any CL group and people would have been queuing round the block for tickets, it's still the same opposition so what's the difference?
We scream out that there's no competition in Scotland but a lot of our support would be more excited about playing a team from the Scottish 2nd division than Ajax or Fenerbahce in a European competition.

29 Aug 2015 19:06:09
I think there is a lot of negativity regarding the prestige of the EL not being near the CL. It's true to an extent but I for one am still quite excited about the group games. Ok we're not playing Real Madrid ( and no doubt avoided getting humped ) but we're up against good European opponents with excellent pedigree and for me it's a pretty exciting group. I worry a little about the away fans safety in Turkey but I don't know if that's an outdated stereotype ( crazy Turkish fans) Fans will still be sore and bitter possibly about the CL sham but this is a good opportunity to show what they can do against good opposition and like I mentioned before get valuable experience against good passionate footballing sides.

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29 Aug 2015 19:38:47
agree Ed, we are out of CL but still going to play top class European teams.

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28 Aug 2015 22:08:13
I read an article the other day Ed with Mulgrew suggesting he wanted a new contract? Surely not?

He can't play the way Ronny wants, he's part of the old guard clique that's been left behind by Lenny including Commons, Stokes, Forrest and Brown, I fear Ronny feels compelled to involve these players and not through his own choice excluding Stokes, so that he doesn't disrupt the dressing room with some big characters. From the outside looking in I would say Brown, Commons and Mulgrew are the biggest characters in the dressing room with a lot to say but that's just my opinion.

I genuinely don't believe Ronny wanted Commons to get a new contract last season and think he was more pressured into giving him one by the powers above.

With less than a year left on Mulgrews contract I'd be pretty disappointed if he got a new one, especially with him now approaching his 30s, no re-sale value, on decent wages and adds very little to the team in fact imo makes us worse when he's on the park and he's holding back other players development also. He isn't even a decent squad player and he's taken up a place on the bench other players could have.

Ed do you think he'll get a new contract by the end of the season? Or will we see the back of him for good?

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{Ed007's Note - Sometimes when a new manager comes in he needs to change the entire way the club is structured, Alex Ferguson had to break the drinking culture at Man Utd when he took over and that saw players like Paul McGrath leaving, if you're not willing to change and help the manager then you should be out the door.
I think there's been a bit of an over-reaction to Scott Brown's performance on Tuesday, he had a terrible game but when was the last time you seen him play as badly?
Commons, Mulgrew and Stokes' time is up and it'll be better for all concerned when they move on, they're holding things back now and you could probably throw Izaguirre in there as he too much of a defensive liability, just look at the difference in Griffiths since he decided to knuckle down, look at Bitton now as well.
Mulgrew will be 30 next summer so I would like to think that the club will, if they're silly enough to offer him a deal, only offer him a one year extension like they initially done with Commons and on less money. That should hopefully be enough to make Mulgrew look to move on a free next summer.
It's James Forrest that worries me, I'd rather come first in a Fred West look-a-like competition than see Forrest get a new deal.
Why would Kris Commons want to leave? He's getting a wedge for being a bit part player, strolls through training sessions and gets a game now and then, plus his Mrs is working the celebrity circus - what's not to like?

29 Aug 2015 18:27:47
ED007 and Celticforever on this theme about changing the old guard etc. I was talking to my Celtic Pools pal before game today and he was talking of the young Scottish players the club are now signing, he said that at last, in his opinion and mine also, the board aka Mr Lawwell has more or less admitted to previous mistakes in not signing up and coming Scottish talent ( Robertson, Russell, McCarthy, mcCarthur and Fletcher to name 5) who have all gone on to star with English clubs.
The club is now going down this Scottish talent pool road by signing Armstrong, GMS, Allen, (Christie, if it happens) and also hoping some of the younger Scottish players already at the club make the breakthrough, yes I admit, Lawwell is trying once again to do things on the cheap, but if these players can produce the goods next year we may all have to eat humble pie and say "well done Peter"
Thinking back to january, when we signed GMS and Armstrong we were all happy as they seemed to add something good to the team, this season both have suffered a dip in form but if the can come again and hopefully be even better none of us Celtic fans will complain.
Mr Lawwell has played a blinder, because critical fans like myself are now caught in two minds, do we keep criticising the club or do we as supporters get behind these young guys and hope they now produce the goods on a regular basis.

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{Ed007's Note - It's one thing buying them up Timbo but they need to be playing. James McCarthy wouldn't have became the player he has playing in our U21s or sitting on the bench. Our fans don't give young players a chance, the slightest mistake and they're on his back right away.
You know I'm all for bringing our own players through and buying quality youngsters in but they need to get game time and they need to have a few older heads on the park to help their progress, but the older heads need to be better players than the youngsters for it to work. And just because of where we are as a footballing nation we need to look abroad to add any real flair to the team.
Being able to say 'Well done Peter' next year doesn't make up for his continual failures to invest in the team but I am hoping this is the start of a proper clear out of the squad.
This isn't a minor glitch, this is an effect of long term neglect on the board and Peter Lawwell's part to properly invest in the playing staff.}
People say that if you pick up one or two players and are paying them Β£30k a week all the rest of the players would be up in arms, why? Nobody's beating down Woodward's door at Man Utd demanding the same money as Rooney, or the Galacticos at Madrid wanting parity with Ronaldo and Bale, that's just another excuse wheeled out by the Pedro apologists who sully our great support.}

29 Aug 2015 23:42:06
See if the structure of club is the manager has no say in who is brought in, common sense prevails by letting manager appoint his own backroom team. i'm beginning to think John Park is using FM2015 to identify players and making an aΒ£se of it

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{Ed007's Note - The manager has an input but nowhere near the level some people think.}

29 Aug 2015 15:24:46
2 goals in 2 games!

Boyata is on fire!

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29 Aug 2015 16:54:01
Until The Malmo game, I thought he was settling down and looking better - but obviously not.
I know John Kennedy held his hands up during the week, but he alone, is too inexperienced to coach a defence and we could do with an old head in there to marshal the back four.
The defence looks very fragile (with or without VVD) and we look like a team that needs to score 3 goals+ every week.
Thankfully Griffiths got us back in it today,soon after and we seem to have the points in the bag.

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29 Aug 2015 14:27:12
I think it will be a terrible turn out today myself and a good few season ticket holders I know are not even going, what most have said is can't be bothered, we have this massive beautiful stadium and we won't fill it any time soon unless us fans get something to be excited about

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{Ed007's Note - As I've said before there's plenty of people who can't afford to go to matches so why don't all the people who only want to go to the 'bigger' games donate their tickets to help?
We could use it like charity/good cause to help less well off fans to get to games and it would mean the money collected would go on what it was meant for rather than back into the club like some of the so called 'charities' who seem to have lost their way.
It must be great to be able to spend Β£500 on something and then decide you can't be bothered to use it.}

29 Aug 2015 16:02:41
Your spot on ed , was driving through to the game talking about this point with a friend and both us are of the same opinion , why don't we let all kids and unemployed in for free there must be a way this could be achieved

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{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't say let all of them in, the annoying crowds of unsupervised kids would just get out of hand as even more parents would use the place like a babysitting service but a system where so many unemployed folk with a a couple of kids get in for free at every game wouldn't be a bad idea. You'd think a club like ours, who are so desperate to promote their charitable ethos, would have something in place but there isn't and that's a damned disgrace.
Gary Naismith pays for a certain amount of tickets for different unemployed Everton fans to use at every home game.
So why does Peter Lawwell charge the Kano Foundation for their season tickets? They're basically collecting money from supporters as a charity yet they then hand over most of the money to CFC for season tickets, merchandise and food, it's a racket that needs to be looked at.
What about other charities who are not connected to Kano, why can't they apply to a scheme to be allocated an adult and 4 kids tickets to take some underprivileged or disabled kids/adults to a match as a treat.}

29 Aug 2015 18:27:50
With 007 on this. More scrutiny, and more genuine philanthropy from the team.

I'm not entirely convinced even that the Thai Tims are as benign as they appear. Singing and dancing in a former colony generally takes the same form. Its great to see, sure, but how exactly does it transpire?

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29 Aug 2015 18:45:46
I think Celtic could definitely do something , I like your idea 4 kids 1 adult , what about say he corner of north stand that meets jock stein stand bottom level only for a children's section in sure they would love it , stick in someone to conduct the songs and get a bit of atmosphere from them , there s plenty other ways we could integrate let's say low income disadvantaged adults unemployed all over the stadium , we definetley need to try and do something , I'm sure we had a similar discussion at the start of last season or the season before that about how flat it is in match days and if there was no green brigade there would very near silence , is it a sign of the times or fair weather fans , foreign fans visiting ,??? Who knows but let's try and sort something please Celtic

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30 Aug 2015 14:10:20
ED, There is a scheme already in place,Overseas Season tickets where anyone living abroad can buy a season ticket and use it when they are back in Glasgow,the unused matches can then be taken up by people who could not normally afford it

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{Ed007's Note - Good stuff, I've never heard about, thanks for the info.}

29 Aug 2015 14:22:28
Does anyone know how to get a stream for the game on kodi or anywhere else for today?

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29 Aug 2015 14:36:18
I've never checked on home matches but vip box or stael put up games usually

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29 Aug 2015 14:44:48
Sure there will be a link on Sports Devil add on.

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29 Aug 2015 14:54:03
Thanks guys , ill try those

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29 Aug 2015 14:07:43
Been a testing week & we all are pi$$ed at the Boards lack of Ambition & The Biscuit Tins still PL's policy. Fan power can deliver the message in some way or form( look how we got rid of the Kelly's) before the days of social media!. For all the snipers,glory hunters Stay away from Celtic Park as there's to many "Fair Weather supporters". HH. Gut feeling we will Gub St John today 6-0.Am an optimist!!

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29 Aug 2015 21:06:49
So much for MA stupid guts lol

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29 Aug 2015 13:51:09
Another loan! Disgusting, just made the decision in the last half hour i'm not going today and i'll not be back until changes have been made, one of my bhoys pals is happy as he's got my ticket so that's good. I'm off shopping with the missus something that's not been done in a long time, might get meself something nice too ease the pain of my club being tortured

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29 Aug 2015 14:39:41
Ed's under the impression that we've got a loan LB because we'll be going after the St. Pauli LB in January.

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29 Aug 2015 12:17:01
Another classic from our great manager. "We are a CL club with a Europa League team"
Well I got news for you Ronny, you took over a CL team when you came. Its yourself that has dragged us down to this level no one else.

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29 Aug 2015 12:51:02
Soon to become an EL club that has a Scottish league team.

Oh wait!

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29 Aug 2015 13:04:06
Well Said Rayman,we have to change,I believe that my expectations of CL Football every season,is the expectation of the majority of Celtic Fans,and We who pay our money,should not have to take our chance on that.The Board,are miles away from the hopes and aspirations of the Celtic Fan Base,the Manager and his Assistant are puppets of the Board.the whole thing needs a clear out

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29 Aug 2015 13:25:48
With a rookie manager and an Inter - Toto board.

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29 Aug 2015 14:22:35
If he thinks we only have a Europa League team then why doesn't he stand up to the 4r5eh0le5 behind the scenes and tell them that he will never get us into the CL with the crap we have just now?

No matter how hard he tries he will NEVER turn 3/4s of the current squad into decent footballers.

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29 Aug 2015 15:48:24
No matter what anyones opinions are of managers past and present, nothing is going to change unless Peter Lawwell is removed from club.

See Boyata is once again a bombscare, cheers John Park! Great job your doing!

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29 Aug 2015 11:01:04
Ed how many do you get in and out before the window shuts? There's still a lot of deadwood needing shifted. My guess would be -

In:
Blackett
Christie
Another centre back
Striker on loan

Out:
Boerrigter
Stokes
Van Dijk
Christie (back to Inverness)

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29 Aug 2015 09:33:08
Ed looking at our Europa League draw and considering the general feeling of disappointment and blame game in general what do you feel would be considered as acceptable in our Europa League campaign? I can't see us beating Ajax and Fernabache? So if that is correct we don't get out the group stages? Where do you think that leaves RD?

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{Ed007's Note - Exactly where he's been since he came in - pi$$ing into the wind with one hand tied behind his back whilst trying to build a team and all the while our CEO is the highest paid employee at the club and the only employee whose salary is at an EPL standard.
What has PL done to earn more money than over half the CEOs in England?}

29 Aug 2015 13:54:27
His times already up

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29 Aug 2015 13:20:14
Ed not being funny but do you not point the finger at Desmond due to the fact he clearly sanctions this type of money to be paid the lawwell but yet couldn't increase our wage structure?, I don't like lawwell as much as the next guy but he can't be blamed for what he's paid?

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{Ed007's Note - Maybe DD should be looking for a better quality CEO that will at least give the club value for money instead of a self serving egomaniac who sees normal fans as no better than shit on his shoe.}

29 Aug 2015 14:13:07
I think PL deserves credit for the way he initially helped get us to a point where our debt is almost negligible but since Strachan left NL and RD have been brought in as rookies so that the board can try and justify spending less and less each season.

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29 Aug 2015 03:26:39
First time poster, very happy about this Tyler Blackett move, just hope we can sign him permanently if he has a good season. Is there anything else in the pipeline ed?

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{Ed007's Note - Not that I know of, Stevie, and I don't really care enough to even try and find out. I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.}

29 Aug 2015 13:57:15
Im not happy, why bring in and give other teams player games getting them game time and expierence only for them to go at end of season. We don't get payed/transfer fee so wheres the logic? Weve went backwards big time defo over past 2 seasons.

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29 Aug 2015 09:42:45
If Virgil is sold for 8-10m and Blackett on loan is his replacement that really will be the last straw for me. I'll be straight to BQ for some placard materials.

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29 Aug 2015 06:40:18
Just been reading an article about Ronnie saying Desmond has his back as manger its on Celtic rumours 24 ,of course he has your back your the fall guy for when the troops start to uprise that's me just about to do my 800 mile round trip to go see my beloved Celtic and I can't remember the last time I went being this angry because of the last game I hope there's momentum for a protest today ,talking to my mates and something like turning are backs or leaving the ground at some point to show are disgust at the way are club is being ran but most of all it would show the top table that we hold the power and have had enough of are club being a piggy bank for these parasites hail hail see ya soon in paradise

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29 Aug 2015 09:24:06
English boy, I have a 750 mile round trip and today I not going. I just can't be bothered. Same reason as 10,000 others and we all know what they are. I read the same article that you refere to. Ronnie does not get it. He seems to think that winning the league is an achievement? It's not but losing the league is failure. Difficult to understand unless you know Celtic and Scottish football mentality. Ronnie may never get it! Any number of managers could win the league with our squad. It's not as if we are even playing great football blowing teams away, what is what Ronnie promised when he arrived last year. Something else not delivered. He goes onto say that we can't just judge success by one thing (CL). Yes Ronnie we can and we do. As I said Ronnie just doesn't get it.

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29 Aug 2015 12:00:24
Guys I've been asking for protest against the board for over a year on here! Better late than never, they are pigs in the trough every last one of them. See you all at the front doors! Hail Hail

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