Celtic Banter Archive May 28 2016

 

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28 May 2016 21:59:12
If we sell in MF ie bitton or johansen I think we should try and sign Sergei samper from Barcelona he's a cracking wee player.

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28 May 2016 19:17:44
Don't know if earlier post went through champions league final free on sky to non subscribers and also virgin free view boxes etc hail hail guys.

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29 May 2016 01:01:51
Delighted Atletico lost out again as i remember watching the players in those red white and blue strips kick lumps out of Jinky many years ago - Rubén Ayala and all.
Not a big fan of Ramos or indeed Pepe the cheat, but the more attack minded team won on the night.

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29 May 2016 01:36:37
If that's an advert for the best club game in world football then we should all give up! Utter pish from start to finish! Guys on that park on hundreds of thousands a week and can barely muster a shot between them! If that's what they call football then they can keep it! Yes there's no doubt these guys have talent and great technical ability, but that was one boring game of football tonite! I wish none of them got there hands on the cup! Had a tenner on Madrid extra time and the missus had a tenner athletico extra time! So that just topped off my disgust lol!

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29 May 2016 06:51:51
A pity about the result. Hate seeing Ronaldo win anything!

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29 May 2016 11:04:01
What about the bit of soft porn at the end of the game? At least that is what it looked like to me with Ronaldo half-stripped and waiting on all those hairy men smothering his waxed torso with adulation. As they said in Monty Python sketch. worra poof.

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29 May 2016 11:07:41
In previous post I said Monty Python, should have been Lord Flashheart in Black Adder Goes Forth.

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29 May 2016 17:22:22
A poor game of football IMO both teams tried to stop other side from playing . Bad decision by assistant to allow the Real Madrid goal, I thought over- all the English referee had an impossible job to do but he did his best .

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29 May 2016 21:42:09
OldBhoy, biggest error for me was not sending Pepe off after the second cheat attempt.

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30 May 2016 00:38:56
Tiny Tim both teams were play acting and trying to get opposing players sent off . It was a night mare to referee and a disgrace that so well paid players like those on the field should act as they did.

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30 May 2016 10:04:56
I only seen the highlights and they weren't great either until Isco came on he was the difference.

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29 May 2016 11:39:32
Hi Ed do you know what is the cut off date for the CL squad has to be announced?

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{Ed007's Note - Here they are mate:

20 June 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the first qualifying round;
7 July 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the second qualifying round;
21 July 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the third qualifying round;
8 August 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the play-offs;
1 September 2016 (24.00CET) for all further matches from the first match in
the group stage up to and including the final.

28 May 2016 18:22:21
I have seen what a lot of people are posting about old players / new players
I do not understand what people find in the following players
Bailly has done nothing to suggest he is better than Gordon
Janko as above and always injured
Simonvic always injured and when he played was slow and did not tackle well ( Wilson, Van djyk and Denayer showed that pace is vital in a modern defender
Biton has done nothing in Europe and lacks pace and strength in the tackle: not a central mid for the future
Allen as Bailly
Roberts again why are we developing players for other clubs
Ambrose, Isagirre, Boyata, Kasim-Richards the shirts just don't fit.

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28 May 2016 19:08:39
Remove Izaguirre from the shirts don't fit. You have a short memory.

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29 May 2016 01:16:21
Roberts had been our best player for about 6 weeks pint of the last 7. We are developing him got Man City because he is better than anything that is coming out of our own academy by miles.

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29 May 2016 17:28:22
Yes getting Roberts for at least 18 mths makes it worthwhile .
IT is easy to criticise all these players but whether u like it or not we will need at least some of them for at least this season .
Although if our so called fans continue to destroy their confidence they will probably be no longer any good, nor will their replacement and even Rodgers in time .
To manage well and to play well everyone needs to be high in confidence .

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30 May 2016 08:29:43
PedroCelt are you suggesting we should of kept an out of form player at club just because he was good a few seasons ago? that's the problem we have, too many out of form players holding club back.

Commons, Forrest, Brown, Biton, Johansen, Ambrose, Boyata, CKM, Cole, Gordon hopefully are moved on to rebuild team.

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30 May 2016 11:27:19
Every position needs competition so I'm happy for Emilio to be KT competition. Emilios shirt fits fine.

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28 May 2016 11:59:39
What formation and team would you play every week currently from the players we have got atm? So including no new potential signings what would be your team? I'm going to use the 4-3-3 formation since I've read Rodgers favours that system.

--------------Gordon--------------

--Janko---Lustig---Erik---Tierney--

---------------Bitton-------------

------McGregor---------Rogic-----

---Roberts--------------Forrest---

--------------Griffiths----------

For me that team needs a new GK (Michel Vorm) , a new RB potentially, a new RCM maybe, a new LW (Elyounoussi) and a new striker (Jonathan Soriano) and we'll be good to go.

Bench: Bailly, Christie, Allan, Commons, Simunovic, Izaguirre, CKR, Henderson.

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28 May 2016 13:59:35
Celtic forever I ain't feeling it bud here is my thoughts with no new signings.
needs to be a 4/ 5/ 1 cause we only have 1 striker!
Gordon
Lustig sviatchenko simunovic tierney
Roberts johansson Armstrong brown rogic
Griffiths

Not much change from what Ronnie would have done with the players we have at the moment only due to having 1 striker I would change formation and lineup once we bring in new signings.

Hail hail.

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28 May 2016 14:42:02
Another Allan sympathiser 🔫. God give me strenght.

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28 May 2016 15:16:31
From what we have currently I'd say 4 2 3 1;
Keeper - Gordon (but I'd like to see him replaced with a new keeper or cash, boy is meant to be good)
Lb -kt
Rb - lustig (would like to see Fischer get a chance as he's looked good in what I've seen)
Centre half's - jozo n big Erik
Midfield 2- brown and johansen (with Ajer pushing for a start and bitton if he isn't sold although i'd like to see Armstrong and brown play together in the centre, they would be my 2 if sj is sold)
Forwards _ Roberts rogic and Henderson (would like elynouusi in for left of the 3)
Striker - Griff
As for commons (over hyped over weight and over paid for a guy who is very very average) and Forrest neither should play for us again, mulgrew if he was part of their clique I'd say the same about. Anyone who was instrumental in causing problems for Rd was working against Celtic and should never be allowed to represent our great club, complete un professionalism.

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28 May 2016 15:52:37
with no new signings i'd love a 3-4-1-2.

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28 May 2016 16:14:00
I know where you're coming from leaving Brown out as apart from having a very disappointing season, he is starting to miss too many games with injury.
Bitton is another player I would not miss as he tends to slow things down and loses possession far too much.
I don't think Commons will be around as his card has been marked, plus CKR and Allen will have to do a lot better to convince the new manager to consider them?
I see you left out GMS also and I think Christie and Henderson will put more pressure on him to up his game consistently or be left in the cold.

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28 May 2016 16:55:32
I think talk about formation is irrelevant as I am sure Brendan Rodgers is likely to tweak his formation before games depending on opposition and during games depending on how the game is panning out .
Formation seems more important for football pundits to blather about than anything else . These people talk about formations to make themselves out to be very football knowledgeable.

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28 May 2016 17:46:32
KT is a excellent player. And his best position is left back it will be interesting to see if Rodgers thinks he is good enough to play that position. As it scuppers The 3-5-2.

I like 3-5-2. I don't think he is a wing back but he is an old school defender in the mould of our best right back Daniel Fergus McGrain a hard type solid as you will get Martin O'Neill seen Scottish football for what it was. we don't need to defend as much win the midfield play two up front with two wide players.

Time will tell he is undoubtedly the best left sided player we have seen since Tommy Boyd good problem for Brendan Rodgers all the same you don't build a team around a left back or can you?

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28 May 2016 19:01:31
Griffiths

Rogic Roberts

Johansen Brown

Tierney Janko
Mulgrew Sviatchenko Lustig

Gordon

I'd like to see something like that based on our current squad. Tierney and Janko providing the width with the outer CB's covering some of their space. Brown and Johansen closing down tirelessly and giving the ball to Roberts and Rogic to make something happen.

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28 May 2016 19:02:01
Formations I'm not too fussed about as it is only where a player starts on the pitch which changes as soon as the game starts. Br will use various formations I'm sure but it's about getting the right players on the pitch and for me we should be more offensive with forwards galore and 433 4231 4132 etc etc whatever it is I would like to see our players being more mentally and positionally adept as players should know, and I'm sure, will be told the areas to play in regards certain aspects of the game, ie opposing team attacking us most players funnel back into a defensive set up, when we chase the ball down we need to do it in packs, like Barcelona, and when one goes the next follows. For me that's a very basic thing that while can be coached, any player should be clever enough to know where to be at any given time. Sadly too few do and we get the usual nonsense they're being played out of position etc, you adapt to positions and when you've played football all your life if you can't understand or work out where to be on the pitch, without being told, for me there's something wrong. It is a simple game complicated by many, as a starting base for me 4231 and you adapt as the game goes on. As for the talk of who we'd play or formations Celtic forever put it up for discussion based on what we have, which may change depending on who is brought in. Hail hail.

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28 May 2016 19:21:12
Would have to be the old 4 4 2.

Gordon

Lustig
Jozo
Big Erick
Tierney

Roberts
Brown
McGregger
Christie

Griffiths
Stokes.

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28 May 2016 21:14:21
With a diamond in the midfield brown at the bottom McGregger/ Rogic at the top.

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28 May 2016 10:10:00
Ed how do I get onto the betting page? Looking for some ideas on the 2 finals. Timalloy?

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{Ed023's Note - There's a drop down menu at the top of the page where you will find it, if you can't find it there here is the link: http://www.footballrumoursbets.co.uk/}

28 May 2016 13:50:09
I think the tactical nous of Simeone will see Atletico win so I've went for them. The Championship game sits on a knife's edge but Hull's individual quality and experience just pushed them onto my slip. I added Belgium for an 18/ 1 treble.

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28 May 2016 14:43:58
A few of ma mates do the bet 365 free in play bet. They mostly go for pre match over 0.5 goals then in play over 0.5 goals, guaranteed at least a £5 win on a £50 bet. But if it finishes 0-0 your onto a lot more, uve also got cash out so if it's 0-0 after an hour ul still get a tidy wee amount. Just wondered before a put that bet on if anyone had a better way of doing it? Cheers

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28 May 2016 15:32:30
Jake Livermore to score anytime is 15/ 2. Also fancy Real Madrid to score a penalty at 9/ 1. Think Atletico and Hull will edge both games, maybe extra time in both cases.

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28 May 2016 15:50:13
Same here steph. Got that exact bet on later for the CL.

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28 May 2016 16:19:30
First time putting it on Jim so here's hoping for a bore draw eh? Could be on the cards with athleticos tight defence

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28 May 2016 18:10:38
Could be mate. 6/ 1 for 0-0 doesn't sound too bad. Just thought there i'll have 90mins on my treble. Nightmare.

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28 May 2016 18:22:51
Same with the play off Jim

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28 May 2016 21:11:54
Here Jim a was just thinking there, see that bet we've got on, would it work with over 2.5 goals then under 2.5 goals. because it wastes the game for me, hoping for nil nil is a bit pish int it? Just a thought bud.

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28 May 2016 22:21:24
Any outcome, like the one you've said there, with only TWO possibilities is a no lose. I got 2 quid of that bet lol and cashed in a tenner up on the treble. Straight in the blind jar, but Atletico were unfortunate not to get that in 90 mins.

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28 May 2016 23:27:10
At least your up jimbo that's all that matters. Any money from the bookies is good.😀

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28 May 2016 11:31:24
Celtic away kit. Click for larger picture

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28 May 2016 13:01:41
that real then marco?, cracker if it is.

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28 May 2016 14:45:29
If it's fake then whoever made it should be employed by nb. Nice.

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29 May 2016 11:03:57
Don't know if it's real or not it was on another forum but they took it down but not before I saved the pic lol.

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{Ed007's Note - It's fake. A Bhoy on Twatter made it and posted it then everyone pounced on it thinking it was real.}

28 May 2016 10:03:00
Ed see this head of performance role that has just been filled is it a new position or did someone leave??

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{Ed007's Note - It's a new position, Kev.}

28 May 2016 16:16:14
Cheers ed.
Looks like Rogers getting to build his backroom team the way he wants then. Hopefully same with the team on the park.

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{Ed007's Note - Bringing in these kind of people is what I thought RD was going to do and modernise the the way the footballing department is ran.}

28 May 2016 09:10:41
Hi guys just wanted yours and Bonds opinions on the revamped league cup format, just seen its in group stages, a good thing or not? Cheers.

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{Ed007's Note - It's pointless nonsense that's as stupid an idea as the league splitting after 33 games.}

28 May 2016 11:38:07
When do we come into the competition?

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{Ed007's Note - The second round. After the group stages Aberdeen, Celtic, Hearts and Hibs are included in the draw.}

28 May 2016 12:14:52
I remember when it was group stages in the 60's and they scrapped it, as there were so many 'meaningless' and surplus games and poor attendances.

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28 May 2016 15:07:06
Another failing by that clown neil doncaster. Most annoying decision, was scottish cup euro place being allocated to premiership team even if a lower league team won or should of got it.

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28 May 2016 16:01:22
Who decided where the games are played at cz they only play each other once in the group? Final in November too.

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30 May 2016 22:13:48
Rangers decide where and when the matches are played in the best interests of Rangers and the football authorities.

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28 May 2016 10:08:31
If the leaked pictures of that black and gold kit are real, I'd be well chuffed with that. Now if we can just get Vlad Chirches, Dani Alves and Danny Welbeck in to fill some of them lol.

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28 May 2016 09:56:22
I see that there are rumours of Wanyama going to Spurs. I assume that we have a sell on clause. If DD is going to push us forward, this should help.

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28 May 2016 10:46:31
He'll go for upwards of 25 making a nice sell on fee. Will be interesting to see just how serious DD is.

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28 May 2016 15:53:49
anybody know what percentage the sell on fee? 10%?

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29 May 2016 11:06:38
Rumour I heard was 20% buddy.

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28 May 2016 08:02:55
Oops, sent that by mistake ed!

Will Rodgers want someone who works more with the midfield to build the play. If he goes with Roberts as one of a 3 he may also push Griffiths left and play a proper centre forward to bring other players into play.

I'm just thinking if the wee man might need to change how he plays a bit. Glad we can speculate on things while actually looking forward to a season!

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28 May 2016 09:57:32
If griffiths was too be moved out wide (which is insane btw considering he just scored 40 goals) then he must play on the right cutting in, as he is way more of a threat than Roberts who I think has a lot to learn.

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28 May 2016 10:12:42
I agree about him getting moved wide not being great, just a thought though as he very rarely brings anyone else into the game, Rodgers might not be a fan of that. Griffiths also has a lot to learn.

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28 May 2016 10:37:57
How many goals would a proper forward score? as opposed to the griffiths who isn't playing right.?

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28 May 2016 12:44:46
Well he's scored 40 goals in the SPL. How many did Kris Boyd score. Griffiths hasn't proved it in Europe. He's surprised me because he's better than I thought he was, and some of the headers he's scored this year have been incredible, he's still far from the complete striker though. We've got absolutely no options up front, so we don't know how he would play on the right of a front 3, which Brendan Rodgers likes. They can also switch, he doesn't have to stay on the right the whole game. I think we need 2 strikers, probably before we sign anyone else! This is the worst bunch of forwards in my time watching Celtic.

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28 May 2016 12:59:10
A proper centre forward wouldn't score as many deep river boy as he'd be setting up a poacher type like Griffiths and Griffiths wouldn't have to do as much running and chasing a back four. At any point did I say Griffiths wouldn't be playing? With a different type of striker I think other players would score more. This is a topic for discussion, you don't need to agree as I'm just putting a point out. This is a banter page.

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28 May 2016 13:24:24
I never said you dint want to play him i just don't see your point at all nt . moving a 40 goal striker out wide to bring in a proper striker? Isn't 52 in 72 the work of a proper striker? by all means bring in someone to help but why move as you say a poacher out wide? To me it doesn't make sense. look at the duds we've had in recent years who couldn't kick Derek johnstone arse . we finally have someone hitting goals regular and improving every season in all departments of his game. and you want to move him.

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28 May 2016 13:49:09
I again speculated that he might move out wide, and just wanted others views. I'm not the manager so I can't change anyone's position. I wouldn't say Griffiths is a proper centre forward (I didn't say he wasn't a striker) . In my view a proper centre forward is a hartson/ sutton/ pelle. Griffiths does a lot of running the channels and I think I player like this holding the ball up would benefit him.

My initial was IF Rodgers was to go with a 3 as he did at Liverpool would Griffiths work as the middle of a 3; I don't think he'd play the role as well as someone else could.

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28 May 2016 17:03:07
Maybe Griffiths in goals a direct swap with Gordon, both have experience of, in Griffiths case getting ball past goalie, so he should know what to do as a goalie against a striker and similarly Gordon would know what he didn't like strikers doing and would score a whole bag of goals .

Makes as much sense as taking Griffiths out of striker role and playing as a winger.

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28 May 2016 17:08:10
If he goes with a top three then the strikers will be swapping and moving all the time like they done a lot at liverpool

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29 May 2016 13:49:39
What a load of total nonsense from some posters on here. Griffiths spends a lot of his time in the wide areas at the moment and I think would benefit from someone holding the ball up and bringing other players into play. I would certainly be interested to try it out and means we would have a lot of fire power upfront if it was successful. Comparing it to swap for CG just makes you look daft IMO.

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28 May 2016 08:00:16
Does anyone else think Griffiths may struggle under Rodgers, at Liverpool he played sturridge, sterling and Suarez, with Suarez obviously his main goal threat. Suarez however is quite unselfish and worked well as a 3. Griffiths is a greedy player (why he scores goals so often) but as a 3 or even a 2 will Rodgers want someone who works more further.

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28 May 2016 08:07:52
I think Griffiths work rate is well suited to rodgers style, although you are right in saying he may need to be less selfish. However, he realised that the burden to score goals was almost left entirely to him last season and maybe felt he had to be selfish. As mentioned a few times, if we can get someone on the left who can do what Roberts has been doing (El Younoussi? ) then I'm sure we'll spread the goals amongst the front 3.

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28 May 2016 08:55:39
all depends what system as well, as said in previous posts u could name 4 or 5 systems BR has used, if its the 3 i still think griffiths will be the main striker, deserves it imo, glad he's knuckled down and concentrating on football,

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28 May 2016 09:48:20
Regardless of systems, LG needs to be a little more selfless. Though I can't argue with strikers trying to score, especially not with a return like his, his decision making needs to improve still to take him to the next level. I could see LG and PR playing off somebody, if we were to get a forward with better hold up play than LG. Ideally, we get another winger who can do what Roberts does AND a striker who could seriously get in agead of LG. But that just seems too sensible.

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28 May 2016 09:50:33
I think Griffiths added more to his game under RD and now has the confidence and experience to adapt to whatever system BR chooses game to game.
Especially if he brings in a couple of better players for him to link up with?

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28 May 2016 10:15:42
I would really like to see Griffiths playing with an experienced striker who he can play off. Someone clever (like a Sutton) who is more than a battering ram. I don't know who that could be. must be someone out there.

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28 May 2016 12:09:30
This is probably controversial but it wouldn't bother me if we replaced lg. On the face of it it seems strange because of his goals scored last year but I really feel he still isn't a top forward. Against top opposition I just feel he is not top quality, sometimes you watch him and u know he's not going to score if he played all day . I'm presuming I'm not the only one who thinks this way as there is no interest from other clubs regarding a transfer when again if u look at how many he scored last year it seems strange. This is not really meant as a dig at him but I just think we could do better, I personally think hooper was a better forward recently.

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28 May 2016 17:05:26
Sutton is too old now and has nothing but hatred for Celtic, maybe Daryl Murphy when he comes back from the Euros would be a better fit.

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