Celtic Banter Archive July 28 2018

 

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28 Jul 2018 20:33:56
Just looking through man city team since we have a history of getting players from them.

I've heard Tosin Adarabioyo mentioned in the past before. The lad is never going to get a game for city and seems a stand out player who we should be in for.

Ed you know if we've ever even enquired about his availability? I'm sure its one we would persure if it was an option.

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28 Jul 2018 20:28:33
Was at Tesco and my pal whos a security guard told me we are looking at Herbert Wrigglesworth of herne bay! so happy!

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29 Jul 2018 01:03:44
Is that herbies full name.

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29 Jul 2018 09:36:46
Herbert Wrigglesworth Of Herne Bay - a bit like Jan Venegoor Of Hesselink - gonnae cost a fortune for the name on that jersey?

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28 Jul 2018
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29 Jul 2018 02:35:08
Did that finish 3rd too?

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29 Jul 2018 09:50:10
Naw! Just like everyseaon since the came into the top flight, non runner 🤣🤣🤣.

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28 Jul 2018 18:03:06
Ed you herd anything about us being intrested in Harry Artur from Bournmouth?

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{Ed007's Note - Are you just plucking out random players names and asking me about them?}

28 Jul 2018 20:17:56
I seen that scrolling through google. don't click on that hit whore p*sh site.

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{Ed007's Note - Ah right, that explains it. No then, Sam :)

28 Jul 2018 16:32:30
Ed I've sent through a few things today that seem to just disappear. Is it something I am doing or you just Bunning them cause it's a lot of shite 😂😂.

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{Ed007's Note - I can't see anything, Kev....

28 Jul 2018 20:00:56
Must be me then ed. Thought you'd just had enough of my pish.

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{Ed007's Note - Lol never mate.}

28 Jul 2018 18:55:00
Cover for KT? the lb from osijek looks like a real player and i imagine would be reasonably priced. Just watched some bits of him v sevco and he shines.

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28 Jul 2018 19:41:08
1 good game against the worst rangers side in 100 years? Means nothing tbh

Maybe sign a few progres players.

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28 Jul 2018 21:13:45
The worst rangers team in 6 years? 🙂⚽️.

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28 Jul 2018 21:45:41
get a grip guys nothing to do with sevco. The boy was fast could tackle and had an engine, also a nice touch. don't know his age though.

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29 Jul 2018 08:11:32
Celtic desperately need cover for KT incase of injuries/ suspensions etc and generally to push him on as ATM has a free pass into the team but generally think the LB from osiejk (spelling) would be too good to be an understudy but a good replacement.

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29 Jul 2018 14:29:02
I am out in Texas working just now and I watched an MLS game last night. There was a left back playing for Kansas called Jaylin Chad Lindsey. 18 years old. He looked really promising.

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28 Jul 2018 18:16:16
Just heard an amazing stat . benfica have made half a billion euros in transfers in the last 5 years. sign up their scouts.

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28 Jul 2018 18:36:26
hate statistics, drb, but not when they are pertinent and as telling as that one!

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28 Jul 2018 18:56:31
Drb where did u hear that? Am not questioning that u heard it but it sounds impossible.

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28 Jul 2018 19:11:17
20 players at 15-25 million will get you up there all those young Brazilians they can sign helps? We must be close to that amount purely just from Southampton? Lol roll on the start of the season got a few bets with the persons in work help pay for my new golf bag 🙂🏌️‍♂️⚽️🍀.

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28 Jul 2018 19:11:22
Commentary from the benfica vs juve friendly .

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28 Jul 2018 19:31:05
That’s because they were wise enough to demand a proper price for their players while we caved in at 10-12mil.

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29 Jul 2018 01:51:12
Finally caught up with them last season though when they lost the league to Porto. There’s no point in us being a selling club as we never replace departing players with the same quality.

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29 Jul 2018 09:14:09
It's quite different when the class of opponent is greater in the Portuguese league so it's harder to win the league.
Porto have also had roughly the same if not more in transfer revenue in the past decade.
Portugal is an attractive destination for South American footballers to use as a stepping stone to the biggest clubs or biggest salary opportunities football has to offer.
I do wish we had a stronger scouting system in South America, plenty of talent to nurture and sell on to help generate money for future projects.
You can't avoid being a selling club when winning the SPL generates less than £4m.
Broony will earn about 1.3m in wages, that's probably a 3rd of the SPL prize money for the winner.
I know many people moan about the amount of money that sly pump into the EPL but let's face it financially there is a more level playing field in their league compared to our own, I never here anybody mention that we are winning the league with a wage budget more than 5 times higher than our rivals.
This creates us to become a selling club as the SPL will never be as competitive a league as others in Europe.
The less competitive the less attractive to players.
So enjoy getting talent and watching them grow in the green and white, then when they leave for pastures new hopefully they have generated a good return, and the next talent arrives to grow.
Finally many do not stop mentioning 10 in a row, if we didn't win 10 in a row with our financial dominance then there is a serious issue, it should be a given.

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30 Jul 2018 23:28:36
LM 67!
I think it would be very stupid of a selling club to buy players of the same quality .
Most teams could be called selling clubs as they sell players regularly . The players they buy are usually better ( like us buying Eddy and selling Armstrong ) or else they buy players that need further development ( Morgan ) . Rarely do clubs purposely buy weaker footballers.

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28 Jul 2018
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28 Jul 2018 14:10:44
See oor Leigh made it on to the ch 4 show the last leg really funny.

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29 Jul 2018 05:08:58
Seen that clip the other day. Am sure yerman got his wish, they'll definitely be talking about it now in the dressing room 😂😂 #bendywater.

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28 Jul 2018
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28 Jul 2018 12:41:05
Agree mally and jonace, Simunovic just has to keep composed and simple, 16/ 17 he was our best CB.

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28 Jul 2018 11:41:30
Still feel like there's a good CB in Simunovic! just feel like he's low on confidence, him and ajer could be good, COULD.

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28 Jul 2018 11:51:33
Wrong decision making and rush of blood to the head moments gave blighted him the last year or so but agree if he can sort that out there's a player.

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28 Jul 2018 12:20:35
The main problem seems to be his knees. He could be the best defender in the world but if he does not play he is excess to reqiurements AKA Kompany.
With three teams playing on plastic pitches this year that is six games he will miss already. With cup and others in the CL then there could be more. A settled defence is a must for a trophy winning team. Better to lose him and Commper now if they are not going to be fit. Buy one really good replacement that has a consistant fitness record.

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28 Jul 2018 13:06:37
Good point jonace.

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28 Jul 2018 13:57:25
Bang on jonace. How can we have a settled defence when you can't rely on Simi. At best he can only be a back up now.

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28 Jul 2018 14:28:30
Im not sure Jozo would play wed if he was allowed anyway. He has not made the position his own after 3 years.

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30 Jul 2018 23:32:34
I don't think Jozo will miss any of our games on artifical surfaces, because of their surfaces . I think B R will only play him in an emergency and is likely to sell him if he can . He has left us a man short in 2 of his last 3 meaning full games.

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28 Jul 2018 11:24:20
Ed given we tried to take him on loan in last year’d summer window, do you think Denayer could be an option if we lose Boyata, Jozo or both?

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{Ed007's Note - I hope not after what he said about playing up here the last time.}

28 Jul 2018 11:48:26
If one goes the other won't be allowed to go unless there is plenty money.

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28 Jul 2018 12:17:53
Never get why people need to slate teams when there leaving. Fair enough if they are treated u fairly. Tbh van dijk made him look good so no thanks.

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28 Jul 2018 13:52:26
He's done nothing since he left. Too big an opinion of himself.

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28 Jul 2018 10:50:58
Say we go out and spend 20 million on 2 CBs.
Do people really think that will stop teams like Barcelona or PSG turning us over?

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28 Jul 2018 11:13:07
Who ever said we spend £20m on two cbs? Spending £10m on two shouldn’t be beyond us. Or one at that level. They might not prevent losing to those teams, but hopefully reduce the score to a less than humiliating score would be a step up.

Unless of course 7.0 6.0 and 5.0 horsings are ok?

I don’t. So, we need to spend. How much depends on how good our scouting is.

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28 Jul 2018 11:13:41
No but nobody asked us to beat these teams. This is a total exaggeration people always use to defend the board not improving our weakest position.

So by that logic if we can’t beat Real Madrid then why bother improving the squad at all? Why bother trying? Maybe we should just fold altogether.

Or maybe if we improved the squad then we will maybe do better the times we drop into the Europa league

And maybe we won’t get 7 goals put past us on an almost regular basis now.

The irony in all this is that Celtic have never outspent any these sides but we have done well in Europe at times. So we have proved you don’t always need to spend a billion to be a decent side. So have you all got short memories?

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28 Jul 2018 11:19:50
It could be a 3-1 defeat instead of 7-1

But let’s be honest, if we don’t sign better and these teams improve year on year then it won’t be long before we start losing to double digits and I certainly don’t want to see that.

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28 Jul 2018 11:20:57
Exactly Kev been saying the same for years. Some seem to think if we spend 20 million we'll be guaranteed CL last 16 or better.

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28 Jul 2018 11:44:48
I don't know anybody who is that stupid. If you know people who think that spending £20m guarantees a last 16 place may I suggest you get new pals? :)

Our best hope is going to be securing 3rd place on a regular basis. Even that may take £20m and even then nothing is guaranteed. I’ve thibg I am sure of, don’t invest in beefing up the defense then even getting to the group won’t be easy. Not that it ever is, but, we need to strengthen and that may take a lot less than the ) 20m.

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28 Jul 2018 12:45:19
It’s not just about spending money and bringing in players of that quality. Look at PSG how much have they spent and I’ve never yet thought they looked like winning the champions league. We need to find the right player to fit how manager wants to play, who will settle in Scotland, and have the correct attitude. Plus we will always struggle to raise the levels required to compete against the so called big teams because we might play low spl team on so many Saturdays prior and then we have to play the better Euro teams all of a sudden. We need to compete so we need better players but it has to be relevant to everything else at the club.

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28 Jul 2018 12:53:54
Bhoy1411. That's a lot closer to my views.
Barca could take 6 or 7 off any team with any defence and regularly do. Gubbed PSG 6-1 after losing 4-0.
Even under Lennon with van dyjk in the team got hit for 6.

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28 Jul 2018 14:27:45
To be fair it really depends on what group you get. If you have been unlucky like we have and each time been put in with arguably the hardest groups with the best teams in the tournament, then even with the 20£ million or whatever horsings are still handed out by the big teams to even bigger teams. If we manage to qualify and hopefully dealt a better hand this time then, I feel we have a good enough squad to achieve at least 3rd maybe even second. just my opinion.

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28 Jul 2018 18:43:04
Spot on again Kev you just need to watch La Liga or Bundesligue on a weekly basis and watch Barcelona, Real and Bayern horse decent sides by 5 or 6. Bayern put 10 past Arsenal over 2 legs a couple of seasons ago Magicpole seems to think buying anyone will improve our defence and it never enters his head that we could easily end up with worse. This is a defence that has secured back to back trebles and 3rd place in CL group last season.

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28 Jul 2018 18:44:19
Trying to fathom your point Kev. Could we still get cuffed by barca? Hell yes--but who couldn't.

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28 Jul 2018 09:11:13
Was properly evaluating our squad today and was considering the next 3 season's as well.

Gk- happy with Gordon and Bain ( but we do need a new number 1 in the next year or so)

RB - unless Ralston is the answer we need a new right back (this season we could get away with lustig, gamboa (if Brendan trusts him now) and Ralston) )

CB - everyine thinks we are short but I actually think we are ok here. Ajer is getting better and better and is only 20. Boyata also a very good cb. Now i come to jozo, the boys only 23 and he seems like he's 27, he's the same age as hendry who seems like a wee kid compared to jozo. Jozo and boyata were unstoppable 2 years ago and if we can keep jozo and boyata id be very happy playing those 3 at the back in our new formation) . This leaves hendry and lustig as other options. Yes we could do with a better cb and jozo is injured prone (and red card prone) but it could be ok this season with what we have. Next season we will definetly need another.

LB - doesn't need mentioned, wouldn't swap him for any other LB In world football ( only issue is if he gets a bad injury)

DMC- Broony and we have kouassi if needed.

CM - ntcham and Calmac and possibly mcginn- shouod see us to 10IAR.

RM - Forrest turning into a class act but would love paddy back. Think we do need another speical winger in

LM - Sinky (needs to recapture his form) , jonhston/ Morgan. Eddy can also play out here.

AM- Rogic and also calmac can play here. Could need to look at another no10. This one got me thinking. When all fit and flying how do we fit in broony ntcham calmac and rogic all into the starting 11? Good headache to have.

CF- moussa eddy griff (unbelivable) this got me thinking about moussa and his hamstrings. It's clear to see the lad has slammed on the muscle, look how thin he is in first 5-1 game compared to now, wonder if this extra beef is causing these issues.

Son we have ajer and kt who are 20 and 21. Need a future rb and probably another cb at some point. Ntcham is 22 kouassi mcginn are young and Calmac and rogic 25. If we can make a player out of Johnston or Morgan and add another young winger and we have moussa 22 and eddy 20 we are ready for 10 in a row only need 2 or 3 positions.

That's why I'm not too stressed about this transfer window. Let's see if any of our players leave before English window closes then I'm sure we will make our moves after that.

What a team we have btw.

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28 Jul 2018 09:41:23
Not a bad shout ORD but never fear, someone will be along soon to add some negativity. The transfer window panty wetters are always lurking! lol HH.

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28 Jul 2018 11:16:38
Stopped reading at Boyata is an excellent Cb and saying him and Jozo were unstoppable 2 years ago.

Boyata wasn’t playing for us 2 years ago until like February. I don’t think he played in the champions league at all. We had Toure there remember.

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28 Jul 2018 12:16:53
Your saying if fit ajer jozo boyata wouldn't be an excellent back 3? You know they are all very good defenders. To slag of boyata because of a couple of mistakes is poor, he is our only threat from corners (on corners btw. wtf, I assume we have zero training sessions on corners) .

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28 Jul 2018 14:26:08
You do know it's the manager himself that wants players in. i could understand fans slaughtering other fans if the manager had came out and said, the squad is fine and it will see us through this season.

But he hasn't. he has said he even he thought there would be more players in.
We as fans can argue the toss all day long but BR wants better players brought in and that's what really counts.

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28 Jul 2018 15:03:23
Yeah we need a winger and a rb and possibly a cb. But if we keep squad and add mcginn and get 2 of the above we are in a really strong postion. You are right about BR coming out and saying he wanted more in by now, not great. Last season he kept saying the club are working very hard to get a player in and it eventually turned out to be ntcham. Not hearing same noises from Brendan this window. But we have a good squad there and brining in quality is getting harder for us. There must be another French wonderkid out there we can develop.

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28 Jul 2018 19:40:05
Boyata is terrible simple as that. I don’t care how good a defender is at attacking corners.

I’d prefer he could just defend tbh. He is Ambrose standard.

As I said we defended better in Rodgers first year when he was not in the side.

He is also not young at all and has played very few professional games for a player his age. Spent far too long collecting a wage at reserve level at Man City and it ruined his development.

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28 Jul 2018 08:02:14
Less than 2 weeks to go for the English transfer window and after Brendan comments about transfers has big Chris Sutton wondering what's going on at the club. can we bring players in if we pass Rosenberg.

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28 Jul 2018 08:25:34
Why this obsession over transfers? We will if we can and if we can't we will not. simple really. We have good younger players, maybe a season or two off first team, but this is our model going forward. Wait for the right guy. Oli and EDDY surely prove that.

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28 Jul 2018 08:54:58
We are woefully short in the centre of defence and at RB - and have been for 2 years. That’s why we signed Comperr and Gamboa and they both failed. If we get past Rosenburg and don’t strengthen those areas we will face another PSG or Barcelona result. Fact.

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28 Jul 2018 09:13:07
Chinks there's no way we're signing players capable of going head to head with those sides this season. Luke GJ says, we have to develop them. That's our model. Now I always want to see us be as good as we can but when you look at the market, people expecting CL ready players need to take themselves for a walk. God forbid it crosses their minds that players have turned us down either. Two players we've been 'linked' to in the past, that I would have liked to see us sign - Gunn and Jahanbakhsh - have just went for 14m and 17m respectively; and there will be folk who haven't heard of either. That's what we're up against. All I am hoping for now is once the EPL window shuts, we can raid the lukes of City, Chelsea etc for players like Ntcham. There might be an opprtunity to get a more developed player in, we'll see.

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28 Jul 2018 09:21:35
@Chinks67. Woefully short? Gamboa not impress you midweek, there's also Ralston and Lustig coming back. You think three full backs is woefully short?

Boyata, Jozo hendry and Ajer, you could also throw Biton in. World cup and other factors hurt us thats' all. So four CB's with a possible fifth if we are in a tight spot Woefully short?

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28 Jul 2018 10:26:18
If anything I think we are woefully short at LB.
If anything happened tierney we are buggered. Calvin Miller isn't a left back and I wouldn't fancy arguably our best midfielder in McGregor moving there so a LB to cover tierney should be priority.
Gamboa may have done well midweek but he will never cut it in group stages. I still think he may leave before the window closes.
Lustigs long term position maybe at CB now that his legs are slowing but still enough quality to do a job for us.
Hopefully young Ralston pushes on this season but is no where near ready for CL football. This position will need addressed in January or at the latest next summer.
I'd prefer a new No1, Lb to cover tierney, an experienced CB and an AM to rival rogic.
I'll be happy with this if it happens.

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28 Jul 2018 10:47:02
Chink67 we could spend 20 million on our central defence and Barcelona and PSG can still do that
PSG have an attack force that's valued at around 500million.

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28 Jul 2018 11:08:04
I can't believe that we can only strengthen our squad by paying top Champions league prices.
I am certainly not expecting us to challenge the likes of PSG, Barcelona, or Real Madrid, that is nonsense, but we should be able to at least keep the score down against them.
Last season we were beaten heavily home and away by PSG, the year before we conceded 7 at Barcelona. As good as we were going forward on wednesday night, defensively we were poor, and I don't think if we were to draw any of these top teams again the result would be any different.
There are plenty of leagues in Europe and the world where players are priced more reasonably than in England, I'm sure if the club looked hsrd enough they could find players to improve us that are within our price range. We have done it before.

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28 Jul 2018 11:34:20
I wouldn’t write wee Gamboa off. I certainly think if he can keep up the form he showed he could be the RB, but, it’s a still an if. It might be the confidence boost he needs. I think we only need one CB. If we sell Boyata then that money needs to be reinvested in his position.

To keep moving forward requires we strengthen at the back. Mid to front, assuming we keep the moos looks very strong and with young Morgan in he looks a player too and big Eddy even at £9m already looks a steal.

If this you Aussie arrives it’s another class player. It really just a CB, again depending on Gamboa, away to Rosenborg will see if it was too soon to think he can step up I hope he can. I think there is a player in there so it’s up to him to show that. If he can’t then we need cover as young Ralston is not ready no matter how much we want him to be.

It is starting to take the oh so familiar pattern of not buying anyone. I think that’s risky. We have two rounds to go before we get into the mega bucks that I feel with superglue the coffin lid on Sevco. I absolutely believe if we strengthen the defense we can put some points on the board this year. The way we are playing us the best I have seen since MON days. A couple of additions defensively and and we could be even better than that great team.

A Treble Treble and putting up a fight in the group stages is within our grasp. Making that a reality I feel requires at least one solid addition to the defense.

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28 Jul 2018 11:56:07
Lustig is never a cb not physical enough or quick enough if we need to strengthen that area buy someone. sounds too simple.

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28 Jul 2018 16:32:22
The player I worry most about at Celtic is Jack Hendry . I think Jack is very typical of the type of player Celtic should buy . He is an ideal fit for us, young, big, strong and seems very keen to learn . There is no point in having Brendan Rodgers as manager if we are not going to utilise Brendan's strengths, developing football skills and life coaching .
Brendan's biggest difficulty with Hendry won't be Jack, but I am afraid there is a small number but very loud fans who seem to take great delight in turning any mistakes by Jack into disasters .
Try to encourage Jack, that is more likely to improve him, than taking away his confidence by roaring abuse it him.

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29 Jul 2018 01:14:10
Chris I agree he gets a lot of stick. Yes he makes mistakes but what defender doesn't? Infact what player doesn't? unfortunately we don't shop in the finished article end of the market, personally I've enjoyed watching players like vvd, wanyama, teirney, edouard, Roberts etc (I could go on) , improve at our club, there's a lot to be admired about what's happening at celtic just now, but aside from the charity work, improving players has to be up there with the best of it, especially if they stay long enough to help us reap the rewards either in trophies or in transfer fees.

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Review Of The Day 28th July 2018

28 Jul 2018 06:50:06
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