Celtic Banter Archive July 28 2017

28 Jul 2017 23:23:25
Just wanted to add that in my opinion which has been made due to the lack of Transfer Activiy is this! (and hate saying it! )
When Rodgers does leave it'll be because the Board's ambition does not go into CL last 16!. The Board yeah want the League obviously and then gamble on Qualifying to Group Stages BUT our Manager wants to go to the next level (evolve) and having a Team that can get us to last 16 is the next obvious progession and Rodgers is that level of Manager! Surely the Board would know this and in my mind had the Fees ready to hand over come end of Season especially when Dembelle looks to be away AND a poss 20-30m coming in.
The Board MUST HAVE the finances and Rodgers will know this hence a matter of time before a clash of youve got it, I got it for you so now GIV ME more than some of IT!
Thoughts and WILL IT HAPPEN?

29 Jul 2017 00:04:28
Ok anton who should we buy? Obviously Brendan and the board are not wanting to take the club forward I don't see names or should I say realistic names who would walk into our team utter shti, I'm getting sick of this we should be buying this isn't good enough for our team WE WENT THROUGH A SEASON UNBEATEN, it's hard to surpass that I'm waiting on Brendan must go! Get back to realality.

{Ed007's Note - C'mon Da, we're going into a crucial CL qualifier minus Roberts, Dembele and maybe LG, we're down to the bare bones at CB and we've just sold our back-up LB. Our first choice 11 are a quality team but as we've seen a couple of injuries makes all the difference.}

29 Jul 2017 00:35:07
Getting fed up with it all! gb getting picked on as I've said they bring a lot of good but u can't give them a free ride do what u want. i give to their food banks I join in with songs but I know where to toe the line! Or do we let them do what they want?

im sorry no! Do they join in if other fans sing no because they're the GB as I've said before we are Celtic no individual we have to come together. the players need us and we need us because that's what we are, Celtic. let's get back to Celtic going for 10. something inside so strong, hail hail in god bless ynwa.

28 Jul 2017
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, They Do, Do Walking Away

28 Jul 2017 19:22:12
With Rodgers claiming it would be impossible to have 3 quality strikers at the club due to the quality of the league but here's my take.
With James Forrest putting in 1 decent performance in 10 he's clearly not good enough for Celtic and needs to be cashed in on Imo. Let's face it he's utter guff.
Therefore I'd like to see Griffiths play more on the right cutting inside because let's face it a lot of his goals come from cutting inside from the right and having a pop anyway.
Ideally for this to work though I admit we would need an overlapping full back similar to tierney which obviously works on the other side with Sinclair, as lustig is not good enough going forward.
Sinclair and Griffiths are 2 completely different players but it may be worth looking at.
Ideally Patrick Roberts would come back for the right wing but it's looking very unlikely.
An attacking overlapping full back similar to tierney would also allow lustig to move to the centre to partner jozo where I think lustig would thrive. He's never let us down playing there plus he has heaps of experience which is invaluable for a CB.
I'll briefly go back to the 3 quality striker situation and if Griffiths was deployed more on the right then there would be no reason not to go out and buy a quality striker to rival moussa and if both strikers were out like the other night then obviously Griffiths could be move back up top.
What's you're thoughts guys?

28 Jul 2017 19:43:50
Any pro worth their salt should be willing to fight for a place. " I'm not coming because I'll only be third choice"? . Nah " Give me a chance and I'll be first choice". That's how it has to be.

28 Jul 2017 19:45:54
Its an idea mate, but I been saying for months on here LG could easily play Rogics role.
More pace up top to break and press and he would outscore Rogic everyday of the week.
Add to that his set piece brilliance he would majorly add to the team.
I like Rogic but goals or a bit of skill as a choice, its goals every time.
How many at the game on wed with 5 mins to go with Armstrong over the set piece at LGs side of the pitch were thinking wish he was on the pitch?
Probably everybody, I know he was injured but if he was fit he may not have been on anyway.
BR has spoken of FINDING A WAY to get them on the pitch together, well mate this is the obvious choice.

28 Jul 2017 19:53:09
lustig? isn't he the same right back that played behind roberts who cut in time and time again? for me lustig is seriously under rated. he also chiped in with 4 or 5 goals last year, im not sure but id guess that is more than tierney, lustig dos not get the credit he deserves.

28 Jul 2017 20:27:17
And assists, that ridiculous heal flick against St j last season where everyone in the team had a touch was immense. And that goal at the crumbledome was also acceptable.

28 Jul 2017 22:04:00
I never said lustig was overrated and I rate him even at right back but he is in his 30s now and a younger, quicker full back would suit better. His future lies at CB, I this even Rodgers has hinted at this before.

28 Jul 2017 17:55:18
Chris Sutton made good point today about difficulty of recruiting a third striker of decent calibre. Hadn't considered it but is a bit of a task unless we get someone good enough to challenge Moose and LG-and keeping 3 strikers happy. Besides Aitchison needs to come through now I think. Ajer played up front for a while back home but bit of an ask to reply on him. Hayes and Sinclair seem only other options.

28 Jul 2017 19:01:32
A real good quality forward who can play through the middle or out wide would do nicely, with everyone fit he would take Forest's place, cover for strikers or Rogic if he gets injured. I know easier said than done but one quality signing like that would sort a few things.

28 Jul 2017 20:03:03
Davie, the over reaction to Wednesdays result has been ridiculous, we are a massive club world wide but are incapable of signing players just to sit on the bench or to do TV interviews.

At this time of year we are at a disadvantage on many levels, traditionally we need to wait till later in the transfer window for bargains to surface which rules out qualifiers, we seem to draw teams well into their season, which is a great leveller and even the fans at home games are never the same at this time of year, holidays etc.

Until Uefa do the right thing and start to once again prioritise Champions in their Champions cup, we will just have to do our best to compete.
And incidentally I still think we will turn them over next week, we will be a week fitter, that should be enough!

28 Jul 2017 01:37:26
I know I will probably get dogs abuse for this but I just want to say that a lot of people need to calm down a bit, Yes we had a poor game but it was only our 3 competitive game of the season where Rosenborg were half way through the season.
We will strengthen the team and it will improve. It's funny how some people have seemed to have forgotten that we went undefeated last season.
Also remember our Europa run to the final, We played our best games away from home.

28 Jul 2017 07:18:21
We had a better team then jonboy.

28 Jul 2017 09:07:01
thing is we don't have time to to stay calm as far as europe goes, in fact i think we will struggle in norway. in the league we have time plus all the teams are at the same stage in terms of football played but its in europe i would have hoped to have a bit of improvement.

28 Jul 2017 09:12:23
Said it for yrs now that id rather get a good run in the europa against decent teams than a pumping for 6 games in the champs league. Ppl seem to think about the money in these games more than the games themselves. not realising that a good run in europa would prob be the same dosh as 6 champs league games. And im sick of getting barcelona lol.

{Ed007's Note - There's a massive difference between CL and EL, you don't even get £2.5 million for reaching the group stage and the winner gets about £6 million.}

28 Jul 2017 09:23:11
I was thinking more along the lines of tv and stadium revenue Ed tbh mate, If we were to get to the QF of europa, would the money be much different to 6 champs league games?

{Ed007's Note - Yes. Even the TV money and advertising revenue take a drastic drop between the 2 competitions, and would we sell out Celtic Park for group stage EL matches?}

28 Jul 2017 11:04:05
The thing is it doesn't really matter about the money when it comes to strengthening the team. We didn't sign anyone of note when we qualified for the CL last season. It will be the same this season if we're fortunate enough to qualify this year I very much doubt we'll spend any money. That seems to be the common theme.

28 Jul 2017 10:11:26
I would hope we would sell out Ed, your prob right tho bud, seems the europa is beneath the club to some ppl, Myself ill be chuffed if were still in europe after xmas.

{Ed007's Note - I've been saying it for years, the minimum we should be looking at is 3rd place in our CL squad and drop down to the EL. We'll get the odd year when we finish 2nd and the odd year we finish 4th but I'm with you that any European football after Christmas would be a success to me.}

28 Jul 2017 10:28:32
I think we would ed and we have the same discussion every year about the cl, I hate it, it's a closed shop solely designed and formatted so only the super rich clubs can win it and we are like beggars tapping at the window looking for scraps , why as Celtic fans do we waste so much time and effort on a competition we won't be a allowed to win, at least in the Europa league as teams like Ajax and Seville have shown, teams with much more modest budgets can go along way . if you told me right now that in the next five years we wouldn't qualify for the cl but we would wrap up ten in a row with 2 or 3 more trebles thrown in, I would snap your hand off, sometimes it's got to be about the glory over the money or what's the point .

{Ed007's Note - I hate the CL for what it has become as well, B but the money seems to be a necessity to progress the Club - although when have we ever spent CL money on the team? We could still have afforded Ntcham, Hayes etc without the CL money. We should be able to splash out on at least one big money, well big money for us, on at least one player a year if we are in the CL. Lawwell has went on about how we could afford a £6+ million player yet we've not spent anywhere near that since MON was here.
Historically we've struggled to sell tickets for the EL group stages but we would sell out a Round of 32 tie. As I said above, 2nd or 3rd in the CL group stage should be our target and I don't see why that's not realistic.}

28 Jul 2017 11:43:27
I don't think there is any panic or crisis in the support, but there is just a wee bit of concern about the list of injuries and the lack of form, fitness and fluency because of the timing of these qualifiers. We know things will improve and new arrivals will be introduced, but we do need CL football to achieve this and the first leg was a disappointment for all.

28 Jul 2017 12:31:54
What I noticed Ed is when we reach the CL stages our share price seems to motor up the way. Which would suggest to me they are being "frugal" with it (as in spending)

Factor in few big fiscal investors start of the season and there overview would have been taking the chance on us getting with no domestic threat to re trace the share price downward = safe investment (Y)

{Ed007's Note - Share manipulation! State aid!!}

28 Jul 2017 12:53:37
Once a bhoy

Couldn't have put that better myself.

We know these qualifiers are always tough when we are likely to draw teams who are 10 to 20 games into their season but they are so important that we need to be fully prepared.

I think the fans are rightly concerned with the usual Celtic mentality where we just "do enough" in the transfer market as opposed to flexing our muscles and REALLY improving this squad. We all know a decent keeper to challenge Gordon is required. We all know we need at least 1 new centre half. We all know Forrest isn't up to it and we need a new right winger. We all know we need another striker as the 2 we have pick up a lot of injuries. Instead we sign a squad player in Hayes and 2 centre midfielders.

28 Jul 2017 16:11:15
I hope we don't get put in europa league. big factor buying seaon ticket is to watch the team on a Saturday. Hate it if we have to play on sundays cos of the europa!

28 Jul 2017 18:19:19
seems as though we have been talking about this for years - decades - the lack of prep and the coldness when facing good teams in the qualifying rounds.

we were lucky enough last year against the happy bear shavers, and we will need some luck to get to the group stages this year. There are some good teams and just some teams who raise their game for the big prize. Reading the list of who we may face in the next round - if we get there - some of these guys have had a few seasons of cl fitbaw and are into their seasons.

remember we used to talk about summer football just so our teams would be into our seasons and prepped for best euro campaign.

I agree with ed, at present I would measure success by regularly being in Europe (by any description) after Christmas.

But if we play this wed like we played last wed - and they play 10% sharper in front of goal, we will be out. (I suspect we have the measure of them now and will score over there - think 1 goal will be enough) .