Celtic Banter Archive August 28 2020

 

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28 Aug 2020 22:34:06
I know it was only one game, and a lot of players seem to step up their game and celtic, what did yous think about the young dundee united left back, neilson (or was he right back) . For a 17yr old he looks pretty solid, think with a little bit of work he could be a decent player.

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28 Aug 2020 22:03:52

Evening lads. My laptop died on me away at the start of last week so apart from an old battered mobile I've not been able to get online since then. I've been trying my best to keep the site moving but my phone limits what I can so now my wee niece has gave me a loan of her laptop for a few days until she goes back to Edinburgh for uni starting that's me back online for now and I'll get back to all your emails etc in the morning.

HH šŸ€ God bless šŸ™

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28 Aug 2020 22:33:44
Good man ye are.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate šŸ‘

28 Aug 2020 23:05:19
Excellent Ed was worried there was something up.

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{Ed007's Note - šŸ‘

28 Aug 2020 23:18:55
Not a lot happened at aw this week mate; ye've no missed much lol
Wondered why you weren't on live chat - I said ye were at Mass. Glad you're OK Ask Santa for a new laptop? Catch you on Sunday.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks CM, some length of Mass that eh? šŸ˜‹ Aye it'll need to be Santa as I already hit the Banque de la Mam for a new washing machine for Grotbags last month.}

28 Aug 2020 23:58:33
Good to see you back Ed.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers, Arrow. I hope you are keeping well buddy.}

29 Aug 2020 07:24:37
Tell the truth Ed the laptop got launched after Wednesday's result šŸ’»šŸ’».

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{Ed007's Note - It should have been the manager that was launched after that result.}

29 Aug 2020 08:33:04
Good to see you back Ed HH.

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{Ed007's Note - šŸ‘

29 Aug 2020 09:10:22
Nice to have you reconnected ed. And don't worry you've not missed anything significant in the world of Celtic. All is good here. šŸ˜‚.

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{Ed007's Note - I didn't think we would reach the Group Stages of the CL but I never thought we would go out this early against a team from Hungary.}

29 Aug 2020 10:03:26
rubbish laugh, ed. Good luck getting something sorted out.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers, Cav.}

29 Aug 2020 10:57:54
I've missed your Pearl's of wisdom. Welcome back. Its turned into 1 flew over the banter site since Wednesday nightšŸ¤Ŗ.

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29 Aug 2020 13:12:57
I have really missed your thoughts on the events of the week ED, I am glad to hear you are well.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Gerry. It was another disaster but were we really THAT surprised?}

29 Aug 2020 13:33:58
Sadly not.

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{Ed007's Note - Appointing Lennon after Rodgers midnight flit was the right decision but appointing him permanently was/is a disaster waiting to happen. Like a lot of our players he's good enough for Scotland - simply because we have the money to spend on better players btw, it's nothing to do with the coaching - but he's nowhere near good enough to take us forward in Europe or as a team.
The stories of players being unhappy are no surprise to me either as his man-management skills leave a Hell of a lot to be desired which I pointed out when he was appointed and Lennon getting the job was one of the reasons Tierney decided to leave as he knew he wasn't going to improve any further at Celtic.
Standards across the board have nosedived since Lennon's arrival, the training & coaching, discipline and the outright professionalism are on the wane.
Once the 10 is secured Mr Desmond has to take a serious look at the way the Club is being ran on the footballing side and Peter Lawwell needs to take a serious look at himself and whether it's time for him to step aside for a younger man with fresh & modern ideas who can take the Club forward.
We would still be in the CL if we had appointed Moyes.}

28 Aug 2020 21:40:24
My team for Motherwell Barkas
EL hamed
Jullien
Bitton
Taylor
Broony
Calmac
Turnbull
Christie
Klimala
Ajeti
But lennon being lennon two strikers will be on the bench till the 83min when we might be losing and he is looking for miraclea.

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28 Aug 2020 21:58:28
Is that the new Romanian signing.

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28 Aug 2020 22:38:29
Brilliant deep river bhoy.

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29 Aug 2020 00:47:28
It can be unforgiving in here. You get slaughtered if you make a typoz.

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29 Aug 2020 02:12:09
Ha ha very good.

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28 Aug 2020 21:19:38
Hh bhoys Europa is our level fk the champions league sick of Milan Barcelona etc give me the planes trains and automobiles trips any day plus getting off work thurs fri for an away game is better than wed to fri šŸ˜ still disappointing to see Lennon is still in a job but hey ho 10 in a row here we go šŸ€.

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28 Aug 2020 22:06:31
Totally agree Welshy but it's very demoralising going through this same ritual every feckin year against teams we can and should beat.
Last years Europa group showed what we can do when we are 'at it'; however, we are always unprepared for the CL qualifiers with the team incomplete or unfit and it's a kick in the stones when everybody can see it except the board and the manager who are stuck in Groundhog Day. Europa is indeed our level and has been since Seville; HH.

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28 Aug 2020 19:59:37
Just a thought guys.
It sounds like Lenny has backtracked on what he said after the CL game. Here's the question though, is he genuinely hoping they'll stay and get on with it or is he trying to hide his true feelings as this might make potential buyers think they can get a cut price bargain for an unhappy player? HH.

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28 Aug 2020 20:21:56
I think he would want them to stay as long as theyā€™re not disruptive in the dressing room. Scott Brown wasnā€™t aware of any serious issues, so hopefully they can patch things up.
The Celtic business model is to balance the books.
If we get into the Europa league I think Peter Lawwell will try and sell Ā£15 to Ā£20 million worth of assets and get the money back that Celtic will spend in this transfer window,
But if we get knocked out of Europe altogether, I think he will try and sell Edouard.

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28 Aug 2020 20:40:49
I think Lenny got his Ass kicked by the board for his comments. Let alone his incompetence that is why he back tracked.

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28 Aug 2020 20:41:21
He is saying what he has been told to say. Just a puppet on a string.

On Wednesday afternoon he was quoted as saying we were nowhere near signing any other players. Thursday morning Turnbull signs. Lawell and Hammond run football matters. Lennon is there to coach what's given to him.

On Wednesday he has tried to make a statement to Lawell with his tactics and team selection and it backfired massively. It is reminiscent of Lennons departure first time round and Rodgers exit. If he takes on Lawell its only going to end one way, sadly I think that day might be sooner rather than later.

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28 Aug 2020 21:20:40
His ass should have been kicked out the door following his team selection and tactics on Wednesday.

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28 Aug 2020 22:14:12
Sadly Besty; I think he has had to backtrack on command and his true feelings and thoughts were there for all to see after the game - even though they were partly a deflection away from his own mistakes.
This is another example of a man who does what he's told and not what he thinks is right and again it questions his authority and power.

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28 Aug 2020 23:00:17
Lennon has quite simply lost the plot! The bolingoli fiasco, Griffiths and his pish and now this! This season should have been about total focus and one last big push to 10iar! Now itā€™s riddled with uncertainty and players who arenā€™t committed to the cause! The result was horrendous the other nite, but the fall out and lennons idiotic comments could be far worse in our quest for 10! He let rip the other nite and was quite clear about players not being committed and wanting out! Now heā€™s embarrassingly took a massive step back! And the he will play players who donā€™t want to be there was staggering! I have lost all faith in the guy and he is under severe pressure and weā€™re not out of August! More than one of us came out with line, the only thing that can stop us doing 10 is ourselves! Didnā€™t imagine we would be in this state 5 games into the season but!

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28 Aug 2020 19:11:40
Noticed over on darkside a couple of sevconians were missing me, implying that I was hiding after result the other night. Kinda right once, I was hiding but not because result it was due to participating in one of the worst hangovers of my life. Was that ruff, spent all day crawling to toilet vomiting lol

I'm gutted about result in CL, honestly thought we would of won tie. We were allover them but end of the day, your club has never played at elite level of CL.

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28 Aug 2020 20:32:41
The Sevco fans have bullied SGL again.
They know heā€™s got a sensitive side.
Maybe it was one poll too many thatā€™s knocked them over the edge.
Anyway heā€™s done another disappearing act.
Weā€™ll know his new username when the polls start back up.

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29 Aug 2020 03:46:17
Buzz Bomb the irony of SGL is he is not very loyal at all. Constantly changing name lol

Was actually going to you a favour mate. I've been trying to find a link to first old firm I went to. Early 90s, we won 2-1. Collins and payton scored for us and hateley scored for them. Special game for me, would appreciate any help.

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28 Aug 2020 17:14:51
How did we get here. pumped out of Europe players wanting out manager under pressure the club and boli up on a charge jeez this season of all seaons. fevkin mess. time for stability and for everyone to calm down and the players to buckle down and do what they're payed handsomely to do win feckin games like they should have on Wed.

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28 Aug 2020 17:33:01
Cannot disagree with that. but footballers and coaches and managers and chief executives and the media won't make it simple. they never do . but yes " us fans" should get back to what we do best. berate bad passing. howl abuse at the TV and pray for a goal and a 2md goal. and a clean sheet .

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29 Aug 2020 10:52:07
It's circus time every August. Groundhog day.

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28 Aug 2020 16:35:01
Eddy Howe anyone?

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28 Aug 2020 17:38:37
Not for me Tim. At Bournemouth he made lots of mistakes but got away with a lot of it because they were a small club in a big league. Up here the scrutiny is immense and I doubt he would last very long.
If Lennon were to leave then I think we need someone who can stand up to the pressure of having to win every match, it's no easy task.

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28 Aug 2020 19:01:58
Totally left field. Would Tommy Wright not stabilize the team by getting rid of egos? His teams play decent football and he did well with St J. If NL goes would he not be seen as a caretaker option?

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28 Aug 2020 19:16:03
The previous manager was as good as we could get and unfortunately taking all the negative factors of the job (Lawell over your shoulder, alleged player unrest, very little cash, location and standard of league and out of the CL early three years running) ;
we would struggle to get a big name that appeases the whole support.
I could even see us going backwards again for MON or WGS if we had to fill the position temporarily? Roy Keane's name would crop up a lot.

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28 Aug 2020 16:34:39
Don't know how much truth is in the headline I just read on MSM; but apparently Leicester are making a move for Cal-Mac? Said earlier on the Banter page - after statement from NL after the game, and not naming names; there could be a stampede for all and sundry from now until 5/ 10?
Maybe just mischief making, but that too will unsettle and distract.

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28 Aug 2020 17:35:03
CalMac is good . he is 27 . at 20m he deserves his shot just like tierney . I think as NL says, everyone is for sale at the right price.

My gut says he will want to stay for the 10 but that's another year and he will be 28.like forrest.

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28 Aug 2020 17:51:10
I would be surprised if club sanctioned any player being transferred to Leicester whilst Rodgers is manager. Nothing against Leicester, its the manner in which he left attempting to take all our coaches at a crucial point in season. They would not miss the wrath of supporters.

If Calmac does go, he will be a huge loss to us but sometimes in any line of work you get urge to try something new.

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29 Aug 2020 09:29:11
Out of all our players CalMac is the one we would miss most if he left, in my opinion.

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28 Aug 2020 15:26:48
With NL telling us the Eddy out for sunday surely klamala starts this game

Barkas

Elhamed
Jullien
Welsh

Forrest

Brown
McGregor
Turnbull

Taylor

Kilmala
Ajeti.

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28 Aug 2020 15:50:04
Lennon obviously doesn't rate Klimala, no point in him even being signed really.

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28 Aug 2020 15:55:45
How does he justify klimala starting. unless he was injured slightly.

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28 Aug 2020 15:59:28
Lennonā€™s team
Barkas
Frimpong Bitton. Jullian Taylor
Brown. McGregor
Forrest. Ntcham. Elyounoussi
Christie.

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28 Aug 2020 16:34:57
Lennons Team

Barkas

McGregor Bitton Julien McGregor

Brown Brown

Forrest McGregor Forrest Moi

Frimpong.

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28 Aug 2020 16:42:28
If he didn't even put him on as a sub when we were desperate on Wed, there must be a huge problem there and he may go again with the same team - and bring on Ajeti, Turnbull and Bitton after 63 minutes?

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28 Aug 2020 16:43:19
I'll be surprised if Turnbull starts the match, I think he may start on the bench.
I would hope he plays with a striker as if Ajeti or Klimala isn't trusted to play against Motherwell then it would really look like a lot of money has been wasted.

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28 Aug 2020 16:47:41
I'm getting seriously p***** off with this signing players and not giving them a chance. Klimala hasn't done a lot wrong the minutes he's had he's managed to score a few goals including a nice finish against Accies I think it was. Soro is another one thought he looked tidy enough what I've seen of him and must have a better engine than Broony these days.

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28 Aug 2020 19:05:55
Have to agree Stevie. Why sign these players and not give them a chance. It's not like they can do any worse at the min. Plus klimala has worked his socks off in the lockdown unlike another striker l could mention. Lennon even said how impressed he was with both him and soro during pre season. Surely the lads is worth a start and at least give him a go. If not then transfer him or send him out on loan. Lennon is not been fair to some of the lads who deserve a chance.

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28 Aug 2020 19:45:44
Brilliant Kwaj, double trouble.

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28 Aug 2020 15:17:48
I am not a fan of Lennon but if we got rid of him to bring a new man in just now would be a big advantage for that mob also who is out there that is good enough when Lennon goes we may need another change in direction.

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28 Aug 2020 15:28:31
I wanted Lennon for our 10 In A Row push and I would love to see him achieve it.
But I want massive changes for next season which will see the club go in a different direction.
This includes replacing Lawwell and Lennon.

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28 Aug 2020 15:53:46
Would take Martin O'Neill back for this season. Out of work knows the club.

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28 Aug 2020 16:03:43
Ninja
I donā€™t think it will happen but if Lenny was pushed out,
I would take Wee Gordon Strachan until the end of the season.
He currently knows more about Scottish football than Martin.
Beside his son and John Kennedy.

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28 Aug 2020 16:18:57
Buzz Bomb
Please its been hard enough the last few days with all thing's Celtic. The thought of watching Strachans football again freaks me out. Rather have you in charge if your not busy šŸ˜±šŸ˜±šŸ˜±.

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28 Aug 2020 16:24:33
Sorry Ninja, I didnā€™t think that would be popular.
Lubo mentioned it could be a possibility.
Heā€™s got everything else right.

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28 Aug 2020 16:46:03
I think Eddie Howe would do well for us.

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28 Aug 2020 16:46:52
Sadly he has. Thought he was a current bun with the stuff he was posting. 3pts on Sunday and see what the international break brings.

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28 Aug 2020 17:40:27
An NL replacement would be about consolidation and steadying ships . it would be short term, safe hands

It would be a Strachan or an o'Neill or a Clarke. and my Ā£sss would be on wee Gordon. purely to get us to the other side of this season .


After that, the pressure comes off and we can nurture and develop and maybe go foreign with a progressive coach in the mould of delia .

But if NL goes it will be a short term, experienced appointment who knows us and gets us .

Clarke would perhaps get longer if it worked out but he would need to want it and be sure a aboot wanting it as he finds the whole weet coast vitriol rather depressing. but then managing Scotland must be depressing.

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28 Aug 2020 18:29:09
We don't have the players for o'neill. It would be a disaster. Lennon is going nowhere!

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28 Aug 2020 21:16:42
Wim Janson.

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29 Aug 2020 10:54:55
Lennon is going nowhere. Pedro pulls the strings and he isn't cutting Lennon loose anytime soon.

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28 Aug 2020 15:07:59
Jaysus, some of you guys are shocking. Save the doomsday prophecy for the mirror and spare the rest of us. HH.

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28 Aug 2020 22:25:14
Agree if disallowed goal given, would of won, no crisis. Need to sort out defence 2 centre half's and more robust left back. Need to get players in sooner but unlike sevco we're chasing players other teams want.

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28 Aug 2020 12:58:18
I know we are all hurting after the CL result so I thought I'd post a wee gag I heard to cheer us up a wee bit.

A robber walks into a bank in Glasgow and shouts "freeze, give me all your cash". A brave customer pulls off the robbers mask and says "I've seen your face now". so the robber shoots him and puts his mask back on. "Anyone else seen my face? " Says the robber. There's silence for a moment, then wee Jimmy pipes up, "I think the one in the Rangers shirt got a glimpse! "

Later Champions.

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28 Aug 2020 12:54:27
Guys if we drop any points from our two games in hand that would be a disastrous start to the season the champions league is now above our pay grad lenny could loose that dressing room that is my biggest fear we will beat ourselves if we carry on the way we are.

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28 Aug 2020 12:57:22
i think its great on here and i know its all about different opinions the fact that we all love celtic and love to talk about celtic until the cows come home but for some fans to say some players that we have are to good for us and some say players like taylor are good enough is beyond me.

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28 Aug 2020 13:37:15
It's all about opinions Liam and I agree it's good to see other points of view and observations and debate them in good humour.
Ed007 runs a good clean shop and it's always hoachin on here. You should see some of the stuff that doesn't get past the bouncers ha ha.

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28 Aug 2020 15:01:42
How can a player not outgrow a club? It happens at bigger clubs than ours - look at Ronaldo at Man Utd for example.

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28 Aug 2020 16:02:54
Or Messi at Barca.

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28 Aug 2020 20:07:16
peter lawlells dream.

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29 Aug 2020 10:55:45
Do u think eddy has outgrown us or do you think club has to show ambition and bring in quality players and stop messing about with projects and duds.

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28 Aug 2020 12:43:44
Anyone know where I can watch the match against Motherwell.

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28 Aug 2020 13:09:13
Celtic pass tv.

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28 Aug 2020 14:05:43
How do I do go about getting a pass for Celtic TV. When I go to buy it's says Audio only for UK and Ireland.

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28 Aug 2020 15:04:39
IPTV mate is only other option.

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28 Aug 2020 15:13:24
Thanks a million for information.

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28 Aug 2020 15:17:54
Paul
Celtic have confirmed Non-season ticket holders wonā€™t be able to pay/ buy to watch the Motherwell game.

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28 Aug 2020 15:44:02
hesgoal dot come and p2p dot net usually have them as well.

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28 Aug 2020 17:12:15
Whats the best iptv subscription.

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28 Aug 2020 21:15:31
Iptv Ireland is great and the guy is a mad tim.

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30 Aug 2020 11:44:26
Thanks Welsh.

Could you PM me please?

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28 Aug 2020 12:26:48
guys. eddy is a terrific player and like all great players they have ambition. i believe we have seen the last of him in the hoops. lawell is selling the family jewels before he jumps ship at the end of the season. also seen lenny press conference and he has been gagged and told to shut up and like the puppet he is he duly obliged. i fear for us going forward this year.

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28 Aug 2020 11:43:17
The key to Eddie staying and him signing a one year extension could well be selling those player's who don't want to be here (Ajer, Ntcham, Christie, Rogic) . I wouldn't lose any sleep over any of those 4 being sold BUT I'm not confident we'll get the right player's in during this window. PL runs the show, Lenny can huff and puff all he wants but he's a puppet - not a healthy scenario IMHO.

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28 Aug 2020 11:56:16
Lennon has confirmed Edouard will be out of the Motherwell game on Sunday.
But he should be available for the game after the International break against Ross County.

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28 Aug 2020 12:09:08
Dont know if I'm as confident of getting the right players. let's face it though the players who want away are no world beaters. We have been regressing since the invincible season. We were just lucky we got Eddy. Have we upgraded on boyata, armstrong, sinclair (at his peak) , Roberts, Lustig (again at his peak) . In my opinion the replacements haven't been good enough. To lose quality and replace it with projects and journeymen isn't good enough. Certainly not on the european front. I still think we will win the league. Our biggest problem is how weak we are. A complete lack if fight throughout the team and it shows against Rangers. We need a strong centre back, a midfield enforcer and a target man. It would give us options. All we have just now is the same team every week but we change formation. Sometimes you need to change your style as well. Lenny wants crosses into the box. What for? We don't have anyone who can header. Too easy to play against.

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28 Aug 2020 12:14:44
true pedro we should actively be looking to sell these players. if we play this out correctly we could have a blinder of a window. definitely gives us the cushion of maybe knocking back bids for eddy and to use the money to bring in the right players needed. the downside would be the settling in period of the new players. but its celtic that would be to simple.

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28 Aug 2020 12:23:49
fifer couldn't agree with this anymore mate I've said for a while a target man is needed to mix it up and as you say lennon has always wanted his widemen to get to the byline with crosses unless its a cutback there's never anyone there.

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28 Aug 2020 12:28:44
Christie would be a big loss. Ajer as well but only due to the lack of CBs at the club.

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28 Aug 2020 12:37:03
BigBubs, I honestly think Turnbull is a better player than Christie right now. It's no coincidence that Christie has the same agent as Armstrong and after one good season his Da thinks he's Messi! F$@k him and his Da, enjoy the Championship Ryan, later.

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28 Aug 2020 15:03:05
Pedro his stats from the last couple of seasons are superb. It would be a big ask for someone to replicate his goals and assists. Hopefully Turnbull is the man for the job.

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28 Aug 2020 10:48:00
Chris Sutton sums up the week very well:- Lawell etc sell or release players before any replacements lined up and we never have a 'complete' team in place before the these qualifiers every year.
Lennon was wrong to make public the unsettled players situation and now has to name, names or bids will come flying in for all and sundry.
His outburst was heart-felt - but unprofessional and something of a deflection tactic after the result.
Team selection was questionable.
Stupid, nervy defensive mistakes occur every time we play in Europe.
Team fights back well for a time, but lose concentration/ bottle to see it through and turn it around. The rebuilding talk at this time makes it look like zero planning incl contract talks were done last winter when we should have been properly planning for this season?
Griffiths, Klimala and Ajeti also get a mention regarding the lack of forethought and preparation for Eddy being injured or absent?

It underlines what myself and fellow posters have all said.

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28 Aug 2020 11:05:39
Celtolic mad . eddy injury and we come unstuck. that's chronically inept

Central defenders that blatantly aren't improving but where 1 thinks he can stroll seria a or the Bundesliga

Lennon had HUGE shoes to follow after BR ( love him. or loathe him ) and its possible that with DUFF away and Lennon more removed, the players haven't been getting words of wisdom and gentle reminders every so often .

Little voids becomes chasms and chasms become great big gaping canyons

We can be very very amateurish when it comes to the footballing operation in terms of forward planning . sometimes it's as if the balance sheet trumps the need for an attractive product on the park

I recall the boli incident. When asked if this alters NLs transfer plans he said flatly and plainly " no. why would it ".

A weird response

He could have said. yes we need to look at that as he was a recognised 1st team player or back up

Or he could have said. we were looking to strengthen in all departments and always will, where its practical to do so

Keep it vague

But don't try to be a smart aƗƗ.

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28 Aug 2020 11:18:05
After Lennon telling the players to leave if they are unhappy,
He is now saying for them to concentrate on winning the league.
I have stuck up for Lennon many times but he has made a complete mess of this.
The players could turn on him and down tools.
If this happens Lennon will need to be replaced.

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28 Aug 2020 12:20:17
And who will be favourite to replace him? John Kennedy - another puppet from the PL Puppet Show.

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28 Aug 2020 12:28:11
Buzz bomb it is because he is a little bit silly. we think top players and managers and board members are all super intelligent and wise and progressive

They aren't

Their audience ( the gullables ) make it easier on them because they don't demand excellence in terms of

Communications
Consistency in communication
Vision building
Philosophical views
Context
The sum is better than the parts etc

What is OUR plan for talent development this year? Do we have one? What is our plan for players off form? Do we reet then, tell them to go away for some respite and find ways to inspire them?

Lennon does not ( I repeat DOES NOT) seem like a man with a plan, and if he does have one hed be far more

Emphatic
Consistent
Coherent
Positive
Professional

He is a mug talking to gullables and when that happens . cracks appear and we come. to realise that he cannot be trusted to turn the tide because he doesn't have a plan ( maybe PL makes a plan impossible)

When we scored the other might, we had a solid 10 minutes afterwards. When we wilted that was THE TIME to make match winning adjustments and substitutions. he had NO PLAN to go and grab the game and suffocate our opponents

They scored and then we looked desperate

We should wise up and accept that we have a mediocre manager. Like all of us, he needs to look within seek help and grow and improve in all aspects just as players need to improve.

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28 Aug 2020 10:45:01
Have said this a few times in the past but Julien doesn't do it for me.

Came in and i thought he looked very shakey, then had a great game against rangers and rightly so was praised to the heavens for it and made out to be a godly defender.

Since then he's slipped back to mediocrity and for me looks a poor Ā£7m spent, i highly doubt we will return anywhere near that when we move him on.

We need to be realistic about Ajer, good young player and we should keep but if he wants to go how does this effect our price tag, reckon we will be lucky for Ā£15m.

Ntcham can't get into our side half the time so why would English clubs break the bank for him. I think he's a top player but from their perspective you can see why they would have doubts.

Now it looks like Eddie will also be away with his Agent noising up about a move, our side could very soon look a shadow of last seasons with our boards signings looking like projects rather than finished articles.

On top of this a manager who is stubborn and clearly doesn't fancy many of the signings. aswell as his inability to drop brown or christie from the side.

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28 Aug 2020 11:55:26
Have to disagree with you about most of that.

Why would you drop your captain (Brown) and one of your top performers (Christie) ?

Also, I rate Julien highly, yes he has the odd shocker but on the most part is a good defender, brilliant passer and goal threat from set pieces.

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28 Aug 2020 12:30:30
Jullien needs a commanding, experienced partner in beside him.

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28 Aug 2020 12:37:00
You've summed it up perfectly, 'Why would you drop your captain'?, . Years ago, I think, the captain was just a go between the manager and the players, now the captain is undroppable, you need someone on the field that can fire the players up, but the manager should have the most of the motivating done all ready, maybe Lennon is relying on Brown too much, to be his commander on the field, and even when Brown is holding the team back in a playing sense, Lenny still thinks he needs him there in a captains role, the captains role shouldn't be so important, there should be 11 captains on the field, all trying to achieve the same thing, all striving for the same goal.

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28 Aug 2020 12:40:04
how is he being stubborn by not playing players that he doesn't fancy that doesn't make sense.

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28 Aug 2020 13:01:49
but there isn't aindoh that's that thing. right now especially with the last few days scott brown is most important man at celtic right now.

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28 Aug 2020 15:49:32
Hes being stubborn by leaving players we have spent good money on out of the side, playing players out of position out of spite.
Julien has his moments of looking a rock and is great at attacking set peices. There is a reason he was playing for the side 3rd bottom of ligue 1 though and i think he gets shown up more often than he plays well.
Brown still has a big role to play but shouldn't be undroppable.

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28 Aug 2020 10:41:37
Lennon saying
He has no problem playing players that want to leave. Hopes they can refocus on season and not going to name players that want away.
this is our manager at one of the most important seasons we have had for year's. Weak Weak management from top to bottom.

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28 Aug 2020 10:44:57
Doesn't take a genius to work it out ninja don't think he needs to name them.

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28 Aug 2020 11:14:09
As long as they play to the top of their ability, he should play them, every single player in that team, and every other team is only playing for the money and nothing else, .

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28 Aug 2020 11:19:09
Mally
Agree we can work it out. My problem is Lennon bringing it into the public to save himself after a nightmare result. Then saying he HOPES! the players can refocus. Blind leading the blind. He's out his depth.

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28 Aug 2020 11:23:28
Agreed mally

He won't drop assets . PL wouldn't allow it

The focus has to be on proactive replacements AND in the interim, try and rally the want away stars to re focus and work hard for their move.

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28 Aug 2020 11:35:20
Just saw his interview on SLY; Wee bit of back-peddling, trying to defuse the situation simmering underneath.
Obviously we don't want to keep unhappy players; but as professionals have to play, as there are not enough quality replacements - as yet.
It's not like Argos, where you take it back for a better replacement, these transfers will take time and the window is open until 11pm on Oct 5th and when clubs know we have unhappy players they will 'low-ball' all day long. It's a mess that needs a level head, logic and assertiveness, to turn this around and lift the team spirit.

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28 Aug 2020 12:30:36
Level head
Logic
Assertiveness

Celtic mad the job is yours.

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28 Aug 2020 14:46:53
Sorry Lubo; I'm too stout to fit in Lawell's back pocket ha ha.

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28 Aug 2020 10:16:25
See all this players leaving its only for one thing money as wages are always what you work for and the old saying is the grass is always greener on the other side of the road come today gone tomorrow so it won't stop celtic as more players will come as they know put that on your cv and big clubs come a knocking we are a business and produce quality and that's why raw talent become stars and we profit as there is no talent in sevco and the few who stayed at celtic are legends ie larrson example so I can't see what all the hype is about the wheels just keep moving forward for the 10 so if they want to leave all the best and cheerio you will miss history and its never been done before and Lennon will get us there because he is a celtic man and knows what it takes so let's all be there for the party and keep the green flag flying high to victory.

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28 Aug 2020 09:49:51
Get Ajer (overrated) and Ntcham (inconsistent) out asap. Turnbull will be good addition to midfield and I would move for Benkovic and Duffy. Julien and Bitton should be squad players, neither are good enough to be 1st picks. Why Klimala never started is baffling, if a midfielder starts in your place it's time to worry. Not buying the he isn't fit enough story. NL clearly had doubts on his a ability.

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28 Aug 2020 10:24:49
Exactly but it's the scouting and whoever is buying these players that need to get theyr act together because it's clearly not Lennon who's buying them when he doesn't rate him.

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28 Aug 2020 12:09:54
Not the Benkovic suggestion again šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø.

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28 Aug 2020 09:18:49
I wasnā€™t happy with Lennonā€™s outburst after the game because it causes more unrest in the changing room and puts extra pressure on himself and the players.
But it could turn out to be a blessing.
It could mean Ajar, Ntcham and possibly Christie will be moved on and replaced by Duffy and Turnbull.
It could also mean that Edouard wonā€™t be sold to make up for our Champions league exit.
The money Celtic receive for the want away players will fill that financial gap and let Edouard stay.

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28 Aug 2020 09:59:07
Something good has to come out of this - and pretty quickly, so we can regroup and focus on - what should be - a historic season.
Celtic need players that WANT to pull on the Hoops and commit 100%.
I saw Stokes being interviewed yesterday and he was hurting like the rest of us - maybe a swap deal with Livi for Klimala ha ha ha.

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28 Aug 2020 10:14:57
Won't be long until we hear BFKB and Commons coming out and saying they have heard Lennon has lost the dressing room and aall our players want to leave.

Not long after our team galvanise and come back and put them all back in their place.

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28 Aug 2020 10:46:15
All good filling the gap but eddie will be wanting away. Also reading his agent is noising for a move now.

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28 Aug 2020 11:10:11
Like all workplaces if thereā€™s a bad atmosphere then itā€™s a bad workplace.
If we can sort out the unrest in the dressing room,
then I think Eddy will be happy to stay and make history.
Edouard will be watching to see how it all unfolds.

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28 Aug 2020 11:28:33
Eddy going nowhere unless, as I've said

Ac milan
Inter
Napoli
Roma or lazio
Marseille
As monaco
Top 8 epl come for him

And that's not happening. yet . surprised Lille haven't had a sniff oddly enough.

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28 Aug 2020 09:18:33
Can I invoice Celtic or Lennon for the damage to my phone the other night?

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28 Aug 2020 08:46:56
Good Morning Friends, would like some people's opinions on what's transpired the last few days regarding players wanting to leave, I'm of the opinion if they want to leave get them moved on ASAP cause having disharmony in the changing room will just not work and will certainly have a say in what we are trying to achieve this season! Ajer? My opinion is that I have never really rated him and gets turned far to much aswell as constantly jumps into needless tackles. Christie? Wouldn't lace Stuart Armstrong's boots and with signing Turnbull, see ya later! Ntcham? Again certainly never set the world a lite with Celtic and if a offer comes in that's acceptable get him moved pronto! As long as Celtic have better ready made replacements ready to be signed the players that look like they want to move get them moved! On Edouard? I personally think the guy will sign a new deal and be sold next season for mega money. The guy has never once said or giving the idea he wants to leave and I honestly believe he will be here for 10. Have a good weekend everyone, HH.

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28 Aug 2020 09:03:32
The big question should be why are so many top players wanting to leave and why did Fraser Forster not want to come back to the club in such an important season?

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28 Aug 2020 09:32:01
Because he gets paid more money in England.

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28 Aug 2020 09:44:55
I only want players committed to the team wearing Celtic jerseys, itā€™s inevitable that players will move on, the key thing is getting quality, match ready replacements and let's face it Hammondā€™s choices and Lennonā€™s coaching/ man management are woeful, any replacements we purchase now could be money wasted if we get a new coach. So letā€™s replace the coach, then the players.

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28 Aug 2020 09:50:33
Im surprised its took a loss for all this to come out and changes to be made surely better doing early before the big games, but i understand players wanting to leave some aren't celtic supporters and don't have the loyalty we feel they should, so our club is a stepping stone, but there's no excuse for lack of effort how these players can one day lose to a team like that then think the next day they can move on to bigger and better because there above that level is crazy, celtic will be the biggest club most who leave will play for. Obviously eddy is a standout, same as vvd you can see they oose class but i think the rest would struggle for better things. Let them go, get good money buy players who want to buy into celtic and we move forward, every player has a shelf live unless there die hard. Im glad lenny came out and said that hopefully that's a kick up the arse for everyone. Although i do still think he should of started a striker. But effort is effort if there not willing then of you go, good luck getting your millions in a relegation team epl.

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28 Aug 2020 08:37:52
Of the players rumoured to want out; Is it for more money, better league standard, Celtic career ran it's course, or they don't like NL?

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28 Aug 2020 09:00:00
He's not the answer a this stage of his career and as for players wanting away, were they wanting away when we played Copenhagen, or Sevco last season or Cluj or AIK before that, we qualified for the group stages 2 out of the last 7 years, were players wanting away then? Everyone of those games we lost cheap silly goals that our defence and coaches never seem to learn from, players wanting away is a red herring, we are a big club run like a corner shop and till PL, NL and DD go we will see repeat after repeat of this shambles.

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28 Aug 2020 10:46:54
All of the above.

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28 Aug 2020 01:07:47
I see Bologna have made a bid of 1.5m for Hickey. Surely a no brainer for that type of fee - go get him Celtic.

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28 Aug 2020 07:17:45
We need better than hickey.

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28 Aug 2020 07:51:03
Hickey is a project
He wants to play

He isn't ready

He will accept not playing in Italy or Germany
At Celtic hed expect to play and I for one wouldn't want him in 1st team at the moment.

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28 Aug 2020 08:52:20
Hickey can come in and challenge Taylor for the spot. He has massive potential and could be the next KT who broke in at a young age. I'd much rather we signed a young, hungry Scottish player than an overpriced foreign based player like Boli.

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28 Aug 2020 09:59:05
Donā€™t really get this ā€œnot readyā€ nonsense. ANYONE who signs for us has to earn a starting slot on merit. Bigger problem is a large proportion of our signing never seem to get the chance which then leaves you wondering why they were bought!
Projects should cost a couple of hundred grand, when you start shelling out over a million, you really should have a good idea of what youā€™re getting.
I get it that not every signing work for a variety of reasons but the money we spend/ waste could and should be better used.

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28 Aug 2020 10:03:23
With NL talking about clearing out and re-building then why not get him into the first team squad. He's got SPL experience and with 5 subs eligible he could play a part - even if it's only from 63 mins!

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28 Aug 2020 15:34:26
We have a 30% sell on clause on Hickey, when we sold him, so could bid Ā£2 million and get him for just over Ā£1.5 million.

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28 Aug 2020 01:00:46
If Celtic do sell the want aways plus some others (Bolingoli, Ajer, Ntcham, Christie, Rogic) plus the sell on for Dembele, we will be looking at about Ā£60-Ā£65 million to rebuild. Add to that Ā£30 million + for Eduard and itā€™s a pretty good budget for a new manager to come in to. The question is, will the board go against the main thing that most supporters hold sacred, (10) and how much of it would they put back in?

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28 Aug 2020 07:52:12
A quid for every million. in all seriousness . maybe 30M.

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28 Aug 2020 08:34:02
As long as we sign better than Klimala, Bolingoli, Soro and Bayo.

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28 Aug 2020 09:05:12
Celtic-mad
How can you say "better than Soro and Klimala" when we haven't had the chance to see them play?
If Lennon actually gave them a chance it might help the team.

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28 Aug 2020 09:11:20
Celtic would only get half of your Ā£65 million for all those players combined.
All of those players can easily be replaced.
Iā€™m confident Edouard will stay because he isnā€™t easily replaced.
At the moment Celtic could get more for Edouard than all the other want away players combined.

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28 Aug 2020 09:22:27
why include soro he hasn't had much of a chance and we haven't seen him play, klimala also hasn't had much time something like 45min of first team football and at least he seems to be taking his chance by coming back to traning having worked hard during the break. theirs plenty imposters taking a wage that's been at celtic for a few seasons and think they're the bees knees when in reality they are mediocre at best,

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28 Aug 2020 10:06:49
Johnboy; there must be several reasons why these players have not been given a chance by now after almost a year at the club.
The phrase NL used when we were in the market at the time was 'hit the ground running' and we are still waiting. What good is that?
Either the coaching is at fault or the scouting/ buying is flawed?

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27 Aug 2020 22:46:48
Manager not good enough or players not trying.? . Here's what should have happened- first choice striker injured, 2nd choice not quite ready, 3rd and 4th not trusted or available. Plan B kicks in and fletcher or cosgrove plays no9 as focal point, roughs them up and let's others play their natural game. They don't appear to be everyone's cup of tea but I bet most would have settled for one of them in the squad last night.

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28 Aug 2020 05:16:48
Cosgrove's injured. He wouldn't have added too much. HH.

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28 Aug 2020 07:53:07
Besty I think he was meaning on terms of a principle.

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27 Aug 2020 22:16:22
Surely, the bigger question is, if christie wants to leave or anybody else for that matter and lennon knows this, why is he playing them. If i was manager and somebody told me they wanted to leave, i would not play them again. Yet along with brown, calmac and julienne and eddy when fit, christie is almost starting every game, the other week, he could cross the road let alone a ball, but was he subbed, no, something not adding up.

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28 Aug 2020 01:43:54
I said the exact same thing, any manager worth there salt would never play someone that told them they wanted to leave.

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28 Aug 2020 07:54:46
Wanting to leave and saying and, and agitating for a move, are different things

Christie certainly tries but I don't think he is a team player. he is playing like he is teeing up a YouTube video . and we need more cohesiveness.

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