Celtic Banter Archive November 27 2020

27 Nov 2020 21:30:26
The fans have been told the Chief Exec, Major Shareholder and the Manager have had a meeting. Its been agreed apparently that everyone is united and the Manager has full support. No reason to disbelieve this. However. where is the statement from the Chief Exec, Dermot Desmond or the Chairman, or indeed a board member or anyone in authority at the Club? We only know because Neil Lennon told us which is not really fair. Why are the board not coming out and making an announcement? It was the same with the Boli Bolingoli incident earlier this season. Neil Lennon was left to front-up. It’s not credible.

27 Nov 2020 21:37:04
Too busy somewhere sunny and warm?

27 Nov 2020 22:58:41
Bolongoli was also at he meeting and danced all the way through, in the enD all joined in and said F*CK IT, I can boogey.

27 Nov 2020 23:20:48
Isn't one statement enough?, is it like NL comes out with a statement saying such and such, then you expect PL to come with another statement saying, just in case you think NL is lying, I fully endorse what NL has just said, and then DD comes out later on, just to make it totally clear, I have to say that NL and PL weren't lying, because it's the truth.

28 Nov 2020 02:05:01
They are quick of the mark when condemning the GB. Get all the pyromaniacs outside the ground and a statement would be out in minutes yet when it comes to the club in freefall at an alarming rate everything's fine and we carry on as normal.

28 Nov 2020 08:03:23
The silence is deafening and tells you all you need to know about PL and the board. happy to grandstand with new announcements sponsorship, player signing, laugh at other clubs "boumsong £9m from an unidentified club in an unidentified galaxy" but not to be seen fronting up during a rough spell. If you back him come out and say so and let's get on with it.

28 Nov 2020 11:54:23
I am no fan of lawell or Desmond for that fact! For me lawells days are numbered! And if it’s true he’s leaving in June i for one am delighted! But to think anyone from the boardroom will publicly come out and back the manager is naive at best! Look through the history of football and it’s very rare that anybody with power at a football club will publicly back the manager, especially at bigger clubs! They’ve put it out through their lackeys in the media! Do I agree with that? Hell no! But none of these sh**e bags in power will stick their necks out by publicly backing the manager! It’s the way it’s done by these cants! By backing Lennon lawell and Desmond have signed up for the dogs abuse they will receive when this gets worse, which it will! And it will hopefully mean we see the back of lawell!

28 Nov 2020 19:08:03
Who’s asking for multiple statements aindoh? The post was about the board hanging Neil Lennon out to dry. Why yesterday of all days, was the only person we heard from, Neil Lennon? I want to know what the Celtic decision makers are thinking. Nobody is suggesting Neil is not telling truth but with respect to Neil Lennon I want to hear from PL, DD etc. They haven’t done him any favours yesterday. Maybe that was the point but the fans aren’t stupid.

27 Nov 2020 20:11:14
Get the old 4-2-4

Barkas

Ajer
Duffy
Juillen
Laxalt

McGregor
Soro

Christie
Ajeti
Edouard
Mio.

27 Nov 2020 22:25:54
Barkas

El hamed
Ajer
Jullien
Taylor

McGregor
Soro
Turnbull
Laxalt

Ajeti
Klimala.

27 Nov 2020 17:19:02
when you look at the way the celtic boys play in the scotland team setup they are quick agile and full of energy. back at home base they are devolved of ideas sluggish and lost. so how can that change so quickly one wonders.

27 Nov 2020 17:25:06
Not playing for the manager. It looks like NL has lost the dressing room. Throwing the players under the bus week in week out confirms that.

27 Nov 2020 18:11:37
I haven’t actually seen Neil through any players under a bus. Has there been any deaths reported? Was it Parks of Hamilton? McGils? This is indeed worrying.

27 Nov 2020 18:24:37
And how the feck can he no find the dressing room? He’s been here for years!

27 Nov 2020 21:27:25
What bus did he throw them under the First one that came along.

27 Nov 2020 21:54:47
It's a different midfield setup.

28 Nov 2020 08:06:09
^ crap patter alert.

27 Nov 2020 16:15:02
If the board backs NL, then for me this has to happen. As unpopular as it will be on here, julien and Duffy have to be paired together in front of barkas and stick with it until transfer window. Brown has to drop out and may only be used one game in 3 max. If team plays well then he doesn't need to play. If Turnbulls isolation period is up then he has to play 3 full games- RC, Milan, StJ. We need to create a spine. Other positions should be filled on merit and based on opposition. But need to keep spine together. My choice would be.
Barkas
Duffy
Julien
Cal-mac
Turnbull
Eddie
That leaves 5 places up for grabs.

27 Nov 2020 16:25:39
Going by that I'd put elhamed rb, Taylor lb, Christie rm, moi lm and ayeti as st.

27 Nov 2020 16:29:29
Duffy is slower than a horse with no legs. Ajer is a cracking player and seems to be one of a few that actually show passion on the pitch.

27 Nov 2020 16:29:51
It’s not going to happen but I would play Ajer at right back.
And I would try and make a 4-4-2 formation work.

27 Nov 2020 16:35:05
Spot on mate. The spine of the team is weak and disjointed.

The stats don't lie when it comes to the goalies. Barkas is ahead by a mile.

I'd put Duffy and Julien together at CB with Laxalt and Elhamed at FB.

I'd put Ajer in at CDM with McGregor and Turnbull ahead of him.

Moi and Christie either side of Edouard.

Ajer could easily play that role. Drop into a back 3 when needed like brown did in Rodgers first year. More height and power through the middle of the team and at set pieces.

27 Nov 2020 16:54:27
Ajer couldn't keep weans out a close.

27 Nov 2020 17:29:50
Ajer has been our best CB this year and that's saying something about our standards. Duffy should be no where near the 1st 11. Agree with BB about a 442 but would also like to see a 433. We have the players for it:

Barkas

Elhamed
Ajer
Jullien
Laxalt

McGregor
Turnbull
Christie

Griffiths
Edouard
Elyounoussi.

27 Nov 2020 18:40:13
I'd play Ajer in Browns position also.

27 Nov 2020 20:11:25
Buzz; we have both suggested Ajer at Rb as he showed at Pittodrie last season - or midfield, where his tackling, energy and ball-carrying would be an ideal replacement for the spent Broony.
Unfortunately the manager's thoughts and plans are at least misguided and at worst rigidly incompetent.

28 Nov 2020 05:41:57
It seems like ajer only player who nlc trusts at lcb
He would be better in mid or as I have said previously rb just my opinion lads hh.

27 Nov 2020 15:33:58
We are looking for the board to sack Lennon. Don't think that this will happen soon as D. D. and P. L. will surely have to have someone lined up as I presume that his back room staff will go as well.

They have to get the next appointment right if we still have aspirations to win TIAR. It will need to be someone of the calibre of B. R. I really hope they don't go for Davie Moyes as that would be a backward step.

They should push the boat out a and go for Rafa Benitez as this would give the players and the fans a massive lift by going for someone of his stature.

27 Nov 2020 15:56:10
According to reports he had a Zoomers call and he has the backing of Lawell and DD 3 (. Y. ) s who are deluded that NL can turn this rubbishshow around. Any other manager would be out the door with 2 wins out of 10 games but not Lawells puppet.

27 Nov 2020 16:41:46
That seems to be the case Pud; Lawell takes the support for granted anyway, with his Ego treating us with patronizing contempt.
Now fans are literally 'Out-of-sight-out-of-mind', so mediocrity and potential failure on several fronts is alarmingly acceptable?!
Everybody and their dug can see how serious this deterioration has become, during this calamitous run - conceding 21 goals in 9 games. However, it is the time of year when we crave 'three wise men' to come in and sort it; we are stuck with three wise monkeys.

27 Nov 2020 17:33:01
Moyes is doing decent in the pub league. No way we could get him. We should be adopting the same type of culture as the likes of RB Leipzig. Young team to develop and sell at a profit with a young, modern coach overseen by an experienced DOF. Full control given to both.

27 Nov 2020 14:58:22
Neil Lennon had a zoom call with Peter Lawwell and Dermot Desmond this morning about how they can make things better.
It was a productive call and they are backing their manager.
Form now on I will blame the board for anymore poor results as long as Lennon is there.
When players are out of there depth but still get picked, it becomes the managers fault for still playing the player.
This is the same with Lennon.
It’s plain to see he need removed ASAP and the longer he now stays, the blame for bad results will now be on the Celtic board’s head.

27 Nov 2020 15:06:33
Thing is we used to wallow in Sevco plight when Sally was in charge laugh about the garden leave saying he is not much of a fan talking the money. How things have changed come full circle In the clubs Any clubs most important year going for history and the board are letting it slip away Lenny as a football fan must surely see he is way out of his depth no one can be that blind but now we are in a position that we should never have got ourselves into and the board are doing hehaw about it.

27 Nov 2020 15:16:13
It seems to me that only the supporters give a monkeys about 10iar. if any off us in our jobs preformed poorly like that we would all be for the sack. with his comments and now the board if it gets worse it just won't be sack the manager. it will be manager and board.

27 Nov 2020 15:27:22
What I don't understand if this goes pearshaped as It looks like it will, think of the knock on for next season's ticket and merchandise that will be lost, can you imagine the money to be made off 10 if it happened.

27 Nov 2020 15:58:28
Its Lawells last year so he won't care a jot. He still will have his SPFL and UEFA roles raking in the cash.

27 Nov 2020 16:04:45
Whatever happens this season I’d like a complete overhaul, board and management to go. Yes they have presided over a sustained period of success but we need a clean sweep as it’s clear the club have gone stale from top to bottom. Desmond is an absent boss, lawell is more concerned with his bonus every year, he has nothing but contempt for the fans . And we all know about the management problems .
I’m getting to the point now where I don’t want to watch them but can’t bring myself not to. Seem to think I’m
Going to wake up and this was all a bad dream.

27 Nov 2020 12:36:55
Team for sunday

Barkas

Elhamed
Juillen
Ajer
Taylor

Henderson
Soro

Dembele
Ntcham
Mio


Edouard.

27 Nov 2020 13:25:19
No even thinking about Sunday yet.

27 Nov 2020 13:56:44
Soro got married last week which looked overseas.
If that’s the case he will be in isolation.
Lenny can’t think much of Soro to allow him a leave of absence in the middle of a crisis.

27 Nov 2020 14:05:47
BB. If he got married last week, it was probably arranged before this was classed as a crisis. It would be pretty unfair in those circumstances to stop a player who is not getting game time from getting married.

27 Nov 2020 14:06:50
Lenny doesn't see a crisis buzz.

27 Nov 2020 14:34:06
arrowh
I wasn’t being clear about the point I was trying to make.
Soro has been that bad a signing we are giving him a leave of absence in the middle of the season.
Soro and Klimala was a wasted £5.5 million in January.
Some will say they haven’t had a chance but I think they haven’t been playing because they simply aren’t good enough.
To let Soro go and get married proves that point.

27 Nov 2020 15:36:50
BB. I get what you’re saying now mate, i still think that without giving the boy some game time, it’s just Lennons opinion that he’s not good enough. From what little I’ve seen of him, the boy looks a pretty good wee player.

27 Nov 2020 15:56:40
To be fair to Soro,
We’ve seen much less of him than Klimala.
It’s possible a new manager will give him and Turnbull a proper chance arrowh. 👍.

27 Nov 2020 19:41:26
That would be a coincidence buzz if a club buys them both, as much as we want it we are not getting a new manager any time soon.

27 Nov 2020 11:36:59
A few things from last night although lenny is on borrowed time it's the players who gave to look at themselves. first goal why the feck doesn't ajer deal with it why does Callum not burst a gut to stop cross and why is Bain not braver.

2nd goal what the feck is brown doing with the fresh air ballerina swipe at the ball and why is Callum so lazy in not coming out if he does it's offside. 3rd goal elhamed al leave it at that. 4th goal what is bain doing out there. calamity of school boy errors costing us week in week out and it has to stop.

27 Nov 2020 12:25:34
it's been like that all season with too many half-hearted tackles or blocks, no marking, poor concentration, daft mistakes and calamities.
These are mostly players with bags of European and International experience, who are repeating these errors on a weekly basis.
It's clear we are missing a commanding and match-winning 'keeper', but the rest of the team are severely lacking confidence and belief and no doubt some of that is filtering down from the management team.

27 Nov 2020 12:31:11
Lenny says we were good for 35 mins well he needs to realise the game is normally 93 mins and we have to be good for the duration. his comments are getying more and more of a desperate man sad to see but something has to give before the season is a dead rubber.

27 Nov 2020 12:45:17
Bain was the 3rd choice goalkeeper last season yet is now number 1.He has let in far more than Barkas event look at their stats. Ajer was woeful along with Brown Elyounoussi Ntcham Elhamed. It's got to the stage were I'm watching bits of the game whilst doing other things around the house compared to when I would sit glued to the tv for 90 minutes.

27 Nov 2020 12:55:17
I can't watch some of the time. You see the patterns emerging and know what's coming.

27 Nov 2020 13:24:05
It all stems from the back four loosing Forster their leader and having no confidence in either Barkas or Bain.

27 Nov 2020 14:41:10
The defenders can’t blame the goalkeeper for their own poor performances.
They need to take individual responsibility and that starts with more effort and hard work on the training ground to try and sort this mess out.
It was a whole new defence last season and after a slow start, they got better.
Celtic are constantly conceding goals now as if the defenders don’t know each other.

27 Nov 2020 08:47:32
Lennon will be given all the backing he needs to turn this around players just need to start taking responsibility one goal the ball passes three men responsibility take by the first man shouldve launched the ball out the park you shouldn't need to coach that these responsibilities which the players need to do are on them not management Brown doing a swan drive giving the pen away is a brain fart moment this 10 in a row is doing mad things to players minds they need to forget the 10 start getting the one game at a time mentality back get basics right first.

27 Nov 2020 12:06:48
You at the wind ups? We are in free fall because of Lennon and his tactical choices! Added to that players don't want to play for him because of his attitude!


We will be lucky to finish 2nd under Lennon.

27 Nov 2020 00:52:25
Some of the posts on here are mental.

Between the banner to wanting a manager of the calibre of Rodgers back - plenty weren't all that happy all the time when he was here - especially the last 12 months when he got itchy feet.

Like him or loathe him, Lennon has a better record domestically with 76% of a win ratio vs Rodgers and his 70%.

Has everyone forgotten the European experience under Rodgers getting done by PSG and Barcelona?

Guy left us in the middle of a historic treble treble season before a cup game and tried to take all the staff.

In the past 43 League games Neil has lost 3 and drawn 5.

This season there's been Bolingoli putting us on the back foot with 2 postponed games for corona to get his jam roll. Eddy got the virus (I do think there's something else there) , Biton, Elhamed and Christie all got it. Julien is only just back and James Forrest (the same guy that gets pelters all the time on here) has been a huge loss to the club.

The goals leaked are a shocker, but overall we're going for a delayed quadruple treble - thanks to lennon keeping up the cup run rodgers abandoned - and are 4 points behind where we were last year - which turned out to be a record year when we got motoring after the break.

It's not perfect but I think Lennon has earned the right to try and get it on track with a settled squad now we've got most of them back from Corona and injury.

2nd half tonight - despite Bains stupidity was more like the team we know.

Everyone has the right to complain about the manager - we all pay our ST money, but try to remember growing up when we won nothing.

Talking about Howe as a potential saviour - do we really think half way through the season is the time to bring in someone untried with the pressure of delivering the expectations of a +70% win ratio to keep everyone happy? There's no substitute for experience.

I think not having fans in the ground is hurting the team - especially when it means hanging about outside with banners keeping the MSM or whatever in jobs.

27 Nov 2020 06:46:32
Bit of a difference getting pumped in Europe fae a PSG or Barcelona compared to Sparta Prague don’t yae think?

27 Nov 2020 06:52:43
Spot on Garry

It's a big difference getting pumped by Europe's Elite and getting pumped twice in 3 weeks by a team like Sparta.

27 Nov 2020 07:12:43
At least we were qualifying for the Champions league to be able to get pumped by Barcelona and PSG. Now we are just being humiliated by the likes of Cluj, Copenhagen, and Sparta Prague in the Europa league.
You can twist statisics all you like but Lennon's record in the big games is terrible and he hasn't a clue how to deal with Rangers.
I don't know if changing the manager at this stage will save our season but I think if we don't we may as well hand the title to Rangers now as I don't believe Lennon has the tactical ability or the man management skills to turn this around.
I am not against Lennon the man, I know what he has had to put up with and he stepped in when Rodgers walked out on us but that doesn't make him a great manager and I think the perfomances this season has shown that.

27 Nov 2020 07:43:05
Well said Lubo. COYBIG.

27 Nov 2020 07:59:35
At the end of the day, the previous manager is now more remembered for his desertion and bail-out rather than The Invincibles, several Hun-skelpings, great football and the foundations of a treble-treble.
NL is in danger of being hounded-out of the club he has served and loved with any past glories and memorable times, blurred and faded by two-wins-in-nine, humiliating, shock defeats by the likes AEK, Cluj, Ferencvaros and Sparta (twice) ; a team that is disorganized, deflated leaking goals, drained of confidence and credibility; while failing to meet the challenge of TRIFC, losing twice at home in succession.
Peter Lawell, NL and these players are on the verge of notoriety.

27 Nov 2020 09:17:51
Yup it's right up there with Hapoel Be'er Sheva, AEK Athens and Lincoln Red Imps.

There's not been a settled defence or shape to the team since the start of the season due to all the other stuff that's going on.

Under normal circumstances I'd be starting to question if it can be turned around, but these aren't normal times.

I'm actually glad Europe is gone - I think that with the internationals is a huge distraction.

For me we I think it'll tell us if there's a way back for Neil with the cup games and once he's got a more settled side how they play over the next couple of weeks before asking for a couple of cans and brendan back.

The only thing I'd agree with from most of the other stuff on here is that it's time Brown was used more sparingly - he's still got a lot to offer in big games but should be spared for them and brought on from the bench in the other games if needed. This is definitely time to to help bed in the new broony.

27 Nov 2020 10:13:56
I can’t criticise a fellow fan too much for trying to stick up for our manager.
But he has been given time to make it right and failed.
Most fans wanted a change after the CL exit and rant.
My breaking point was 3 weeks ago when we were first embarrassed by Sparta Prague.
I knew that night Lennon wasn’t going to win us the league.
Celtic have showed Lenny respect in these last 3 weeks and gave him more time to try and turn things around.
It’s not working and it will only get worse to a point of no return.
Celtic need to change the manager now to give us any chance of getting back into the title race.

27 Nov 2020 10:37:42
Time for change, and yes it likely won't get us the 10 (which no-one outside Celtic Sevco give a flying feck about) . What it will do is give us time to build for nxt season and beyond as we know a big turnover of players is imminent. I'd rather start that now than in summer.

27 Nov 2020 12:12:51
LuboLarsson what utter bollocks! Rodgers did not return 2 wins out of 9 games in his tenure, also Lennon has managed less games this tenure so its obvious he will have a higher win rate.

Lennons league points total is 3 points away from being as bad as Tony Mowbray.

LENNON OUT NOW.

26 Nov 2020 23:27:09
My, my how things are always different when the shoe is on the other foot:

“See projects? Forget it. I’m sick of hearing it. I’m sick of hearing about two- and three-year plans. I don’t buy into it. It’s about now. You don’t have time as a Celtic or Rangers manager. Projects are something my daughter does at school. I’m a football man, only interested in results, performances and players. I don’t care about two years’ time. I might not bloody be here. ”

Key point is Lennon stating you don't have time as a celtic manager. Why is he contradicting himself now?

27 Nov 2020 08:06:14
He was funny when he said in the presser it's not for me to criticize the player's. eerm you did Neil several weeks ago.

26 Nov 2020 22:29:41
Lennon will still be hear end of the season win or not board will back him because they backed him in the summer and will do so till end of the season but if the board have any real ambition its now time to show it Dun Dun Dun!