Celtic Banter Archive June 27 2012

27 Jun 2012 23:35:00
Not a chance Timalloy mate. I've tried before and failed miserably. Something about monkeys who wear slippers as I recall. Reading through some of the Celtic fans posts, you're all clearly loving what is going on over at the stadium formerly known as Ibrox, as I would be if City went bust, but does the quality of the SPL not concern you? Sure you'll be odds on to win the next 10 SPL titles but do you not worry a lack of Rangers will mean a lack of interest/revenue which in turn may affect your European chances? Maybe not in terms of the coefficient as Rangers never progressed anyway.

TK-Red

TK Red, yes all us Tims are enjoying our neighbours demise, it has been a long time coming.
To answer some of your other points about lack of money etc..
If Celtic get to group stages in Champions League next 3 seasons we make about 6 times what SKY offer.
Also if that happens and one or more SPL picks up wins in europe our coefficient will RISE not fall.
You probably keep being told about loss of revenue because no ex RFC, well it has been worked out that if every SPL club (Celtic excluded) gained only 1000 more season ticket holders that would compensate for lack of ex club, so no doom and gloom in scotland. Timalloy
PS I am going to send wee Pat on to Man Utd site ....... LOL

TK-Red, I am not for one minute condoning the finiancial wrong-doings at
Ibrox but the SPL could have become a much stronger league if it received anywhere near the amount of money given to the EPL. CM

I hate to say it boys but "If 'Ifs' and 'Buts' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas". My point being that Rangers demise creates alot of unknowns and the SPL could very well flourish and nobody would notice the demise of Rangers but it does rely on an awful lot of variables going the right way.

TK-Red

27 Jun 2012 21:59:42
Would someone please tell john bobobomber broon that there is no Glasgow rangers anymore their deed. Watched him nearly bubbling on the news 'what a thick t**t,lol

If he's the front man for the consortium newco are in deep doo doo

It is astonishing the amount of fans that are swallowing this stuff.Why did all these great "rangers men" watch the club die? Did Fergus let us rot into liquidation for a cheaper deal? Guess he loved his club more than these guys............green jhedi

As much as i can't stand the wee bigot, i had to applaud him when he came out and said that no-one has had the davinas to apologise, and he said sorry on behalf of deadgers to the whole of scottish football

so...credit where it's due, he's officially the first man to publicly say sorry for all the sh^t they've put everyone through


taco

27 Jun 2012 21:34:40
Hi Ed, Thought I would introduce myself properly since you don't like anonymous posts. Love this site, some very intelligent posters from both sides of the city. Not seen the site today but glad to see I'm not the only one to think Mcshagger could do a job for us. The bears would be severely peed off!.......BigRab {Ed007's Note - Thanks Rab and welcome to site.}

27 Jun 2012 20:52:07
Tomo tweeting that Green has tranfered Ibrox, Murray park and the Albion from Sevco 5088 into the Sevco Scotland Limited company for £500k.

He is allegedly going to then sell this to a Canadian Pension Fund for £8m.

K-Dot.

27 Jun 2012 19:33:27
speaking too a few of the lads tonight about the whole rangers saga & a few points came up.

1st being the players walking - when you think about it, its over 10m thats just walked from rangers in the last 7 days leaving just 3 players so far for the newco. 2 who are in their 30s & one who would probz end up back at hearts if he says no to newco.

2nd- celtic/spl money - we have alot of players on big wages 1st one being our captin whos on around 20-25k PW.if rangers go down & we dont get into the groups of the CL i think we would need to sell our top stars to make the books balance.

3rd - rangers & what league - the biggest problem. this was a big one that had us halved.if rangers go into div 1 or 3 then will they ever come back up? when you think about it money will be tight they might not even have a decent team as div 3 is really part time players etc.if div 3 is the only route left then i cant see them holding onto ibrox,would have too many overheads to keep up so would need to sell that & maybe murray park.however if rangers didnt make it up within 3 years i do believe a new league of a spl1 & spl 2 would be formed in some shape or form so that rangers can play celtic some how.

4th - where does it leave celtic ? - they are a big team with a good rep on & off the park (ok forget the banner but other than that really) would we stay in the spl ?

5th - europe - our ufea points will go down with or without rangers & if our league is just a sunday league then will we ever do half decent in europe ?

just a wee debate to take the limelight off the saga thats been going on since feb lol

lenny

1. I think that was the issue, the players did not want to risk being used as just an asset. There's no way they are going to risk less wages and playing in whatever league..if any. They've been messed about since 14th Feb, faced uncertainty and taken a wage cut. Where is the benefit of transferring ?

2. The players were on those wages last season and all we had was Europa league football. I don't think we pay wages just because Rangers are in the SPL.

3. I know I have my green tinted specs on but when I hear Rangers fans say we'll be back, I always ask them how ? Granted they have a bigger income than most in Scotland but they have the overheads as well. The only way forward for them, in my opinion, is investment in the youth and bring them through..this will take time as well. I'm sure Celtic U19's finished about 20 points ahead of Rangers.

4. I've already been shouted at in this page for asking is it realistic for a Scottish team to play elsewhere...enough said lol

5. Without a crystal ball, i've no idea about the co-efficient or the effect. Something else you can lay at the door of RFC with their arrogance.

Mrs E

27 Jun 2012 18:49:44
Interview with John Brown on Sly. At first I thought it was Only and Excuse. This is hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmt6HOoHUQ

K-Dot.

{Ed007's Note - I am trying to find a link to his interview on Talksh1t radio earlier as well.

This is craig whyte part 2...green doesnt want to sell ? am sure he would be happy to just let the new rangers just disolve & keep the assessts

lenny

"This stadium here, that I was proud to play for" lol! FFS is this guy for real? Hope he stays around a while as you said ed, there is a lot of fun to be had with him.

Briggs

Ed - can you try to find the one on STV News as well. It was comedy gold.

K-Dot. {Ed007's Note - I can't find it to embed without breaching copyright but here is a link:

news.stv.tv/video/1708679756001/

Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! PMSL! LOL!

27 Jun 2012 18:34:31
so looks like forster wont be signing permanently after all , kinda had a feeling anyway, and i know i wasn't the only one, so lets get our new no1 in swiftly with no messing about ,

peacheybhoy

27 Jun 2012 17:43:18
" the day that rangers are liquadated then thats the day when I'LL start looking like a wee card oot a cluedo game"
donald finlay QC( queens cross, n so she shood be)
here twice av been in the same courtroom iz him n shoutit
"thats him Thats him arrest that man!"

27 Jun 2012 17:31:26
Edd.
On monday their was a post in regards to the commentator saying he wished a injury of a player you remarked on my post that a tv pundit should not make remarkes of such.
On your comments about mccgregor i would say i take a dimmer view of that than a tv pundit not being impartial.
Your comments could easily put actions into other heads or anything posting comments of such are imature i thot better of you.
Didnt c johnstone in danger or kenny miller.
Anybody who would think or do anything to a human going from green 2 blue or vice versa are mindless and should have no place in society never mind football. {Ed007's Note - Obviously your brain has problems digesting and processing information. Where did I wish any harm to anyone? I was commenting on the society we live in. I am only responsible for what I say and write, I am not responsible for what you hear or interpret. If you are thick then that is neither my problem or my concern. Is this 'green' and 'blue' you speak of your crayons?}

Dear god ED: you have to question the sanity of some of these people...........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - That's the standard you get from unsigned posts GJ, that's why most get deleted. They can't even think of a tag to use so why should anyone bother about their opinion? With the school's breaking up we expect an outbreak of Gilfnards, any posts from mobile devices without an e-mail address or a logged tag will just be automatically deleted. All of us Eds are not spending another summer trawling through inane drivel from sad little trolls.}

I would have thought the OP would have taken into consideration the difference between when Kenny Miller signed and (if any) of the current players.

Obviously feelings are running a lot higher and some Rangers fans see the fact they don't want to tranfer their contracts to the NewCo as a 'betrayal' never mind if they sign for Celtic...free ! Mrs E

Here ed violance canae be toluratit in the days society thats why am agreein 100 % tae gie me his name n address so ah kin pit ma point acrose n a fashion thit gets his heed stitched?
anonie moose

Mrs extisy how huv ye highlitit the wurd free wae blus writin is thur sum signifokinse mibbee yur rinse?
a nonie moose's pal jist moose

Edd iam original poster you have taken my post by the scruff.
Fair play my 2 examples were on reflection off the mark.
My point was more of being a dad of 3 if my son was looking threw site but maybe was not fully aware of the hatred.
Reading a remark of such could plant the seed the same thing cfc promotes i.e sectarian songs banned as it influences decisions the less air time such things get the better as i hope you would agree.
I dont think for one second you wish anybody harm & iam man enough to say sorry to you if i left that thought with you.i honestly never ment it coming accros like that.
In previous unsigned posts i have said its humans & jobs y not go between 2 people need to grow up a worker from tesco cant go to asda

o but its celtic 2 rangers or

vice versa thats what has to stop {Ed007's Note - I apologise for ripping you a new one, it seems we've misunderstood each other. I would never condone anything like that, I was merely pointing out the problems that it would cause if McGregor did sign for CFC, no matter how much we disagree with it we all know it is there. Not talking about it doesn't mean it isn't there though.}

27 Jun 2012 17:18:36
Jings crivens help ma boab,are ye sayin thit charlie greens no been tellin the truth granpaw?
"AYE daphne it seems it might be that way!"
" bit whit shall we dae granpaw?
" we'll merch thru the lonely streets ae govan tae confront mr green daphne"
"but whit if he disnae come granpaw whit then for the downtrodden support who have done nothing to bring this on"
" then we'll jolly well listen intently tae BIG JOHN, as he is eftur aw A BROON & we know that he can be trusted tae,also Ive asked oor wullie n fat boab tae cum is they are also diehards ae "The Rangers" right c'mon daphne ther's work to be done,,& remember to pit your sensible walkin shoes oan for its down tae glesga we are bound!"
"bit whit aboot oor tee fur maw ,jean & the bairn granpaw?"
"tea ? tea?,wha's thinkin aboot tea it a time like this ya daft lassie,when the cry comes you dont ask daphne ye go!" anywaey hen its only fish finger sarnies the nicht, yer maws goat hur periods, n the offy's shut fur renovations," AYE RIGHT GRANPAW LETS MERCH!"
"& shall we sing that old battlecry from yonder years granpaw?"
" aye hen, JOHN BROONS boady lies a smouldrin in its grave, john broons......"
"bit granpaw thats no the song a wiz thinkin aboot,
ah thote mibee somethin fae yon destinys wean or mibbee the proclaimers!"
" Blasphemy blasphemy daphne wash yur mooth oot wae soap n watur proclaimers indeed, they bloody chancers fae embra, never when theres a breath left in auld granpaws lungs thit ur clogged wae coal dust fae wurkin 83 years doon pit!"
"so whit shall we sing then granpaw THAT song?"
"aye daphne the ONLY song in this "The Rangers daurkist hoors,
" furacry wiz... listen daphne kin ye hear mer voices?
"aye granpaw theyre comin fae every where doon the glens n oot the bothys, led aff bae PC Murdoch,blootered oot his skull while still oan duty!"
makes ye proud tae be a highlander dapho!
to be continued....
next week.....
BIG HEN tells maw he's gay, while jeans telt joe thit she's aewaeys fancied him. the bairns 44 years auld ,
maws hid hur nipple pierced, oor wullie admits tae secretly lovin fat boab, while the twins URNAE!
oh & PC MUrdoch has a secret we arra peepul tatoo where only people who are doggin kin see it!
dont miss the next episode ae "the broons"

Whit aboot Wee Eck?

Wee eck left "the broons" tae go tae the big city only tae become unemployed due tae bein ginger n huvin his nose wacked wae milly willer & a lack of talint... he tried his hand at several things, modelling spot removal, & more importantly learning brummy..... all of which he failed

27 Jun 2012 16:17:02
John Brown interview on talksh*te! Do not miss this! Somebody needs to tell him rangers are no more.............green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I was practically roaring with laughter GJ! I wonder if he has a Stanley sellotaped to his mobile a la Big Man from Chewin' the Fat? What was he on about with the buses and small business BS, if this clown is fronting a consortium then there is more comedy gold on the way.

Ed and GJ i just cant get my head around that it is Celtic supporters who are putting up the money for this consortium,why would any Celtic fan want anything to do with that lot.Macca

ED007; LMAO! It actually redefines the term "comedy gold" If he is the best person to front things you gotta ask who the rest are? ............green jhedi

27 Jun 2012 16:23:00
I'd also take McGregor he's top quality and it would be a kick in the b*lls to the Rankers if wee snatched him up, agree with the post above he wouldn't be the first to cross the city

27 Jun 2012 14:52:41
Ed - you hearing anything about how Green intends things to pan out at Newco. Apprecaite there is nothing confirmed out there.

I keep hearing that he will retain the property assests in a stand alone company (and that his purchase contract by Newco from Oldco allows him to do this ) and he will sell the footballing side to another party who will opearte this as a seperate company, leasing the property assets from Green.

Hearing that in order to do this the preferred option is to take a year out of the game.

One of the difficulties I see if this were to be correct, would be the costs Green would have to incur to renovate Ibrox to a standard where he could then rent it out on a FRI lease.

Any thoughts.

K-Dot.

27 Jun 2012 15:38:44
Not made up:

Duff & Phelps wins UK - Corporate Restructuring Advisor of the Year

Jun 27 2012
Duff & Phelps, a leading global financial advisory and investment-banking firm, has been awarded UK - Corporate Restructuring Advisor of the Year at the recent ACQ Finance Magazine Global Awards 2012.

The award winners were selected following nominations from readers of the magazine, who assess the quality of service received rather than the size of billings.

Paul Clark, Partner, Duff & Phelps, stated: “The awards highlight outstanding performers across the professional services spectrum and celebrate the best advisors working across the world – as identified by the readers of ACQ Finance Magazine. It is a real achievement for us to be recognised, not only locally, but also on a global scale by our peers, and one in which our entire team can take great pride”.

The award win follows Duff & Phelps’ recognition at the ACQ Finance Magazine Country Awards in 2011, where it was awarded ‘Turnaround and Restructuring Advisory Firm of the Year’ UK and ‘Debt Advisory Firm of the Year’ UK for the second year running.

The ACQ Awards are presented across 49 different geographical regions, recognising organisations and advisors that have performed to exceptional levels over the past year. Since its launch, the Global Awards have grown in stature and importance becoming a focal point of the M&A community’s calendar.

Source - Company press release

Voting was for Celtic fans only and they got my vote

How bad were the rest?

Jungle Bhoy.

We have to assume "wee Pat" was the other finalist?...........green jhedi

27 Jun 2012 15:18:40
It seems there is another protest planned at ibrokes tonight at seven pm.Since last nights had the huge turnout of TEN,should we run a sweep? Another day,another march to an empty building............green jhedi

27 Jun 2012 14:53:59
ten blue boatles crashin aff the wa'
ten blue boatles widnae stay at aw,
n if wan mer boatle shood ,
go n shoot the craw,
thats a whole team ah boatlurs,
that huv aw sade naw!

27 Jun 2012 13:28:09
posted this earlier dont know if i forgot to click send or you never posted it ed lol ?
i agree with one of the earlier posts on dunno why forster is gettin alot of stick. nothing wrong with someone trying to wanting to try there luck on a bigger stage. just the same as anyone else would do in a normal job i.e higher pay / promotion i mean he wouldnt even get in the england sqaud playing up here never mind being there second choice.

27 Jun 2012 12:51:20
Honestly,if you were part of a consortium trying to wrest control of newco from Mr Green,would you have John Brown as your spokesman? Sounding,and indeed looking,like a moneylender in the Govan pubs,Ultimatums and warnings were aplenty.It seems he has some overseas investors lined up(that rings a bell somewhere) and will organise a share issue(again bells ringing)where every shareholder will receive one share He also is demanding to know who owns ibrokes and murray park,why he would think he is able to demand this is strange as we have not seen anything of his money or consortium.I wonder where these "rangers men" were post administration and poss liquidation? Could they have been hiding because this was an inevitable event?This is what had to be done to move this toxic money pit of a club forward,but the "rangers men" could not be seen to do that to the club they love,could they? So,if they could not stop all that has happened so far,have they got the money to move things forward with a player budget,stadium upkeep and running costs?All this and you dont know what,if any,league you will play in next year.I would think Green might be nearing the stage where he thinks enough already.But instead of rolling over who knows what he might do,lets be honest he holds the aces.The biggest surprise for me though was quotes from an exposed high profile sectarian bigot.Donald Findlay,yes he is back,is supporting Browns bid.You must just be feeling warm all over John...........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - Don't forget they have Nick Griffin onside now as well ;-)

I could be wrong about this but did David Murray not have some kind of share issue that failed miserably.

Everyone that comes in as the new saviour seems to be quoting and modelling themselves on the Fergus McCann takeover of Celtic. Big differeence though as Celtic had a team, league and (granted post 1994) stability. Mrs E

Wondered when Findlay would appear, looking likely newco wont be accepted for any league which leaves one option.... Buy another club
Findlay tied in with Cowdenbeath who will play in the first division could this be the game plan along...can see it now 'we had no choice it's our only option' no debt/sanctions and spl footy in a year....blinder

ED007, Green Jhedi my two bear mates asked where were all these so called consortiums when the club really needed them? Now we have them all coming out of the woodwork arguing with each other.
It reminds me a bit of the old Ulster unionists parties, The UU, DUP, PUP etc..
all supposedly with the same idealogy but could not get on with each other. Timalloy

Everyone, regarding Findlay do you think as a "QC" he is advising Sevco on a takeover of Cowdenbeath on the "QT?"
just a thought..... Timalloy

27 Jun 2012 12:04:53
anyone else here think all these rangers stars are not going with the newco to force green to chuck it?..then sell to rangers minded people ? and hey presto all the shipjumpers return to save the day at sevco?


just a thought

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ......... No.

K-Dot.

27 Jun 2012 10:15:09
Rangers fall into the same category as Elvis & Michael Jackson.... Millions of fans worldwide who believe they are still alive.

Lenny

What about The Ibrox Irn-Bru Fannys for a new name and sponsor?

27 Jun 2012 09:27:28
At last some truth out of ibrox..
We dont do walking away.FACT.
We run a country mile.
Ha ha ha.

27 Jun 2012 00:29:20
Ed just a wee question for you sir
Will the rangers page now be taken down? People have been stating and you have allowed it to filter through that r f c are dead so why is the rangers transfer rumour page still up?? ,.,.kbarry {Ed007's Note - The Rangers site has nothing to do with me mate. Rangers are dead, there is no Rangers, it's over....The fat lady has sang and the parrot is an ex-parrot!! I have not let anything filter through.}