Celtic Banter Archive January 27 2021

27 Jan 2021 21:43:59
NL on Barkas and Bain "I don't think his performances have merited keeping his place.

So I'm going with Scott for his experience, and in the league he hasn't let us down too much. "

Manages to say publicly neither goalie is good enough. That will really help their confidence! Unbelievable.

{Ed007's Note - I mentioned this video on the live chat. I know it's "just Youtube" but Barkas looks like a totally different player and you can see why Woods and Hammond were so interested.

27 Jan 2021 21:59:02
Ed007, what's happened to him? Although playing with that defence won't help. He will never make it with us now regardless so best to cut our losses.

{Ed007's Note - I know he didn't speak any English or Irish 😜 before he joined so that along with moving to a new country blah blah blah will have had an effect as well. I think that also shows that the board expected to sign Forster again or Barkas would have been taking English lessons before moving over.}

27 Jan 2021 22:09:48
I don’t think it would have helped him moving to a new country you don’t speak any English and can’t leave your house will have helped any of the new signings. I’m sure I read an article, he has lost about 2 stone of muscle looked bigger in those highlights and even when we played ark. now he just looks like a big streak of piss.

27 Jan 2021 22:11:38
I thought Barkas got a Dutch education and would’ve got English lessons.

{Ed007's Note - I'm pretty sure I seen a video of him speaking English a while back but according to a Celtic blogger I spoke to the other day he couldn't have.}

27 Jan 2021 22:19:53
I can just remember him time wasting against Celtic.
And I watched the last few minutes of Aek in their play off game after they knocked Celtic out and Barkas spent half the injury time faking injury again.

27 Jan 2021 22:25:19
We must have got his twin.

27 Jan 2021 23:20:39
If Bain hasn’t let us down to much in the league as Lennons put it, why has he been playing Russian roulette with the 3 goalkeepers all season. absolutely clueless.

27 Jan 2021 23:43:21
In that clip he looks a bargain for 5 million playing against top clubs. I hope he comes good as woods must see something we don't. Mabe down to a backline that's all over the place confidence or communication problems as Ed says.

28 Jan 2021 00:56:36
Did I see that right? They used a chopped off goal as one of his highlights 😂.

28 Jan 2021 01:13:13
Was going to say he looks vocal in that video so he can't know any English. Lockdown hasn't helped for settling in either. If he can discover that kind of form he could do us a turn. I remember watching that video when we signed him and thought we got a real good keeper in.

28 Jan 2021 09:47:38
Barkas is symptom of what’s in front of him. Every single match this season has had a different back four. Be lucky if he even recognised anyone let alone knowing their strengths and weaknesses are 😳.

28 Jan 2021 07:35:53
I have said numerous times that the only time I seen Barkas playing was against us and he looked a great keeper, I still think there is a great keeper in there, I beleive its down to few things like needs time to settle, learn the language, coaching and the backroom unrest may have all contributed to him not settling as quickly as we would have liked. That's just my opinion though. What do you think Ed?

{Ed007's Note - I think Stevie Woods will help Barkas find his confidence and turn things around.}

27 Jan 2021 18:59:33
Think it will be 442 with moi rm and cal pushing towards the lm. soro sitting with turnbull further forward in the diamond. Bain is probably the best out of the 3 keepers we have but changing all the time is just ridiculous for any of the keepers confidence. Shows how clueless our manager is and how he has no clue as to our best 11.

27 Jan 2021 21:40:53
Bain flapped at a few tonight. Still needs addressed for me.

27 Jan 2021 16:25:27
The new banner outside Celtic Park says it all sums up what is happening at our club.

27 Jan 2021 16:50:01
What does it say?

27 Jan 2021 17:31:23
It says:- 'OUR REVIEW IS COMPLETE; MISMANAGEMENT AT EVERY LEVEL'

27 Jan 2021 18:02:39
Yeah sums the club up 15 titles in 20 years, 9 titles in a row, quadruple treble.
Money in the bank developing players and selling them on.
Get these scumbags out our club the mismanagement.
Is this Celtic page now just Rangers fans or Celtic fans below the age of 35 and don’t know how lucky they are.

27 Jan 2021 18:12:55
Cmac1980 spot on.

27 Jan 2021 18:18:22
Thanks OaB.

27 Jan 2021 18:19:44
Very true Cmac. Pple seem to forget what we have won over the last couple of years. This year has fell apart for number of reasons and change is needed to bring fresh ideas to the club to bring us back to where this club needs to be.

27 Jan 2021 18:21:57
Cmac very true. Still think Lennon should be gone Already though so this could have been avoided.

27 Jan 2021 18:27:03
It's not a history lesson Cmac its president time No way should Celtic be that far away from any team in Scotland in January. As you said we are running at profit we have the best team IMO yet the team is not doing good team selection has been questionable at least interviews have at times been cringeworthy to say the least. Trip to Dubai questionable all at present times we can't live on past time we have to look at present and the future and just now the future looks bleak. The board will want people to just think of the past but that is not what it's about.

27 Jan 2021 18:34:56
Agreed Camac it smells of self entitlement when you consider what we’ve achieved but you can’t eat yesterday’s dinner. The board gambled and lost the 10 and were found asleep at the wheel as they were warned. The reincarnation of Rangers were indeed coming. The lack of communication from the Celtic board is arrogant and Neil Lennon’s comments yesterday that he didn’t understand the fans frustrations beggars belief. Would you or Oldkilly disagree that there has been mismanagement at every level?

27 Jan 2021 18:35:25
Now there’s a Celtic da. all is forgiven Celtic cos we were good for a while and rubbish in the 90s and maybe good again next year.

27 Jan 2021 18:42:03
Ss what could have been avoided. Boli going abroad and having 2 games postponed and already playing catch up.
We were unbeaten in the first 8 games. The international break left us without Eddie, Christie, bitton, elhamed due to C.V. Having to play the Scottish cup another 2 league games postponed playing catch up again. Coming back from the winter break and losing the team for 2 matches. We have never been able to put any pressure on them as they have always been 3 games ahead.
We have never had a settled team with Eddie being out for so long during the season and with forrest and julien out injured has left us with no creativity and a powderpuff defence.

27 Jan 2021 18:45:10
Mismanagement us the right word from recruitment to Dubai it's a shambles. you can't live on past glories you've got to move forward. and we've hit the skids.

27 Jan 2021 18:47:57
Fed up listening to this entitled BS. The club is toxic just now because of the decisions our board has made. But hey its ok because we've been successfully recently.

27 Jan 2021 18:55:28
The entitled fans are toxic. Outside the stadium. Why was Dubai a shambles in the next few weeks a number of clubs will be flying all over Europe for football matches and 3/ 4 days in 5 star facilities and training. Should that be called off. Eddie has started 12 league games all season scored 7 if he was able to start the other 11 Forrest missing all season between goals asists they provide you are missing around 20-25 goals within that period.

27 Jan 2021 19:03:03
Calmac what could have been avoided? Eh getting out thought by the reincarnated Rangers dugout and out fought by the reincarnated Rangers team. Nick Hammonds recruitment. Unfit players. The boards disconnect. A trip to Dubai that caused the scenarios you described. A team on their ar$e we should have been out of sight of but who caught us through the boards arrogance after being backed by the fans until our nose was bleeding. Losing the 10. Horses out Europe and the cup. That’s what could have been avoided.

27 Jan 2021 19:10:31
Big Bubs you don’t think abusing players and the team bus after 15 titles in 20 years and 12 trophies on the trot made the parkhead protestors look self entitled?

27 Jan 2021 19:17:05
I had yesterday's dinner today JFP was delicious👌. Lawell should stick to the financial side and stop being the Unofficial Director of Football. When Rodgers was in charge Lawell wasn't the main man anymore which put his nose out of joint. He never bought the players Rodgers wanted near the end of his tenure. Negotiated 9 million for BR which would have covered Rodgers 3 year wages.11 million for Frimpong, 7 million for Armstrong who was in his last year 11 million for VVD 10 millionfor FF,25 million for KT and 20million for Dembele and more is what he's good at. The Board must keep him the feck away from the football side. We have needed a CB for a while with Julien out for 4 months and they knew months ago Frimpong was wanting to leave yet hadn't any replacements lined up.2 loans will be rushed through isn't good management. Letting Lennon stagger on from November is Bad Management. The fitness of players an arrogant Board and manager who are way out of touch with our fanbase is Bad Management. A Hearts fan that walks about with a clipboard in charge of PR, terrible transfer business in the last window apart from Turnbull Waiting over a year to play Soro bad management.

27 Jan 2021 20:16:43
Jft We have lost 2 games in the league look at the side in the first rangers game. On another day we would have beat them at Ibrox. Sometimes you just have a bad season and unfortunate with C.V. and injuries. The group in Europe have look at where Lille and ac Milan are in there league had the toughest group.

27 Jan 2021 20:48:11
Cmac eddy has scored the 7 goals in 12 games which looks decent till you remember he scored a hatrick on the opening day against Hamilton so when you look at it like that he has scored 4 in 11 that's not good for a "Prolific" Striker, why do we keep playing eddy when he doesn't even want to be here. Give Ajeti or Klimala the game time.

27 Jan 2021 21:03:36
Sorry Marco never new Hamilton were not in the league. Your post is ridiculous what other teams don’t count. The point is in those other games he would have been the one to score a goal or provide an assist. I don’t know why play Eddie because he is by far the best player that we have. We have been a selling club for years we bring these players in to help them progress to a bigger team. That is the model it will not change. Is that 8 goals in 13 starts. 😂😂.

27 Jan 2021 21:55:35
JFP I'm not talking about the protesters who probably make up a tiny percentage of our support. I'm talking about the large volume that believe NL should be sacked, Lawwel should not interfere with football matters and we should appoint a manager fitting of our stature. We deserve to be heard and not dismissed as glory hunters or being entitled. This season has been a disaster that has been in the making since NL was appointed. I repeat our board has made the club toxic.

27 Jan 2021 22:01:56
Thing is if you remained eternally grateful for what happened yesterday you'd lose sight of tomorrow. That's what the board hoped happen and we'd keep ahead just and not spend too much money while raking it in. Fans have a right to expect a standard if professionalism and progress. Weve seen neither for a while. History is a wonderful thing to look back on but it's not getting the fans dancing in parkhead on Saturday is it.

27 Jan 2021 22:28:12
I don’t think the board did. I think we are just in a bit of a strange time in society the board went out and signed players we all thought would have done a job but have just not settled and kept the Eddie, Ajer, Christie etc. The C.V. has had a big impact on Celtic this season and playing catch up has not helped.

28 Jan 2021 09:39:07
There it is, a true Lennon comment

CV has had an impact on Celtic - yeah cause only Celtic are affected

Simple facts are - Lennon has regressed Celtic, the board are at fault for not removing him in October when 99% of Celtic minded folk knew he was incapable of getting the league won.

Lennon for his own health more than anything else now should be sacked immediately.

He describes the win against Hamilton as a great performance - eh far from it. Soro played well and Taylor was better than his usual average performance. The rest where again just bang average again.

28 Jan 2021 09:48:50
Cmac my point is its not like he is scoring in every game, my point is he is having flashes where he is scoring a hatrick in one game then nothing in the next 4 or 5, but his figures look good because he has scored 3 in 5/ 6 that's the point I am trying to make. Every single person in allowed to have a view and a point and that is my perspective on him flashes of brilliance now and again is irrelevant when you look at the bigger picture. When Griffiths scored 40 in the season a couple of years ago yes he he scored doubles but he scored almost every game he played. That's the difference. We need a guy who will score reg. Not one who doesn't want to be here or shows lack of spirit and looks like he has stopped trying imo.

27 Jan 2021 15:35:59
Can we recall the bhoy Oconner from tranmere ? give him the RB spot till end of season to see if he's up to it .

27 Jan 2021 16:34:34
All the chickens are coming home to roost as the saying goes.
Lennon is in denial as is the board, chairman and cheif exec.
This should be seen as an oppertunity rather than a scourge.
A time to complete a spring clean to usher in a new summer.
Out goes Bain. Ralston, El hamed, Ajer, Bitton, Duffy, Laxalt, Rogic, Ntcham, Brown, Christie, Eduoard, Kilmala and Henderson.
This team should start from now until the end of season

Barkas {let us find out if he is good enough}
O'Corror Welsh a. n. other Taylor
Forrest {when fit} Soro Turnbull Elnounossi
Griffiths Ajeti
Other youngsters on the bench such as Robertson Connell and any others who we think can make it
As you see no Macgregor Give him a month off and come back refreshed and ready for the cup and next season when a new manager an look see and bring in his own choices.

27 Jan 2021 21:05:33
That's a good shout Jonace, it'll neex to be a big brush though for that spring clean!

27 Jan 2021 12:44:03
Ed my friend who would you like to see come in as the new manager whenever this will be?

Enrico is unsure but would like to see capitano Brownie move into player coaching role when the new manager installed. No head coach but he remains important to the team and the future of our great club.

When some players leave I think it will be important to Turnbull continues the good work and is made a centrepiece of the next Celtic team when it is put together.

Jus some of enricos thoughts my friends. 🍀.

{Ed007's Note - I would be happy with Phillip Cocu or maybe Dan Petrescu coming in as I don't think the likes of Benitez or Rangnick are realistic targets. From what I've heard Brown could sign a year's contract as a player but I do think he will concentrate more on starting his coaching career, he'll wait to see what happens & how he feels in the summer before deciding.}
We should definitely be building our team around Soro & Turnbull and hopefully a rejuvenated McGregor.}

27 Jan 2021 14:03:17
Many thanks for your thoughts Ed.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

27 Jan 2021 14:47:34
Why cocu ed. I'm not familiar with him as a coach.

{Ed007's Note - He won PSV their first title in 6/7 years and won the league 3 out of his 5 years at Eindhoven and a couple of cups. He's also known for developing & promoting young players.}

27 Jan 2021 15:58:57
What went wrong for Cocu at Derby? He done a terrific job at PSV and when he went to England i was sure he would be a big hit.

{Ed007's Note - Derby have been in a bit of a mess behind the scenes for a while now with the still ongoing on/off takeover.}

27 Jan 2021 16:11:25
I've said it a few times on the live chat but I'd like ferguson from Aberdeen added to the squad/ midfield. Id not sure if mcgregor will be here next season, got a feeling he might move on.

27 Jan 2021 19:01:38
We are not signing anyone this window, as the Board and everyone else still don’t have a notion when the lock down is likely to ease up . Nobody knows if there is will be any elite sports played next season.

27 Jan 2021 19:38:49
Cheers ed I can remember thinking derby got a cracker when they appointed him. All the hype round rooney kinda deflected away from cocu and was to lazy to check back his previous record.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

27 Jan 2021 21:19:39
Ed, I'd love Ralf Rangnick to come in and be given full backing and control but I live in the real world, nevermind.

Cocu is an interesting shout but whoever comes in, do you think John Kennedy is going to survive yet another manager leaving?

{Ed007's Note - Kennedy will have a job of some description at Celtic until he decides to go out on his own as manager. Remember Brendan Rodgers was all for Kennedy becoming DOF before he left.}

27 Jan 2021 21:30:02
Why is that Ed?

{Ed007's Note - What mate?}

27 Jan 2021 21:43:36
I'm curious why Kennedy will have a job at Celtic until he decides to leave?

{Ed007's Note - Well he's not struggled so far has he?}

27 Jan 2021 10:06:57
I'm genuinely feeling quite depressed by all that's going on at Celtic just now. Bad enough the whole country's locked down but the horrendous results and player unrest is making me not want to read the news each day. I dread it. I obviously still love my club but at the moment I can see no end to the misery.

Why can DD and PL not understand that many fans are hurting and that they need to act now. Mutual consent contract termination for NL which would leave him with the dignity that he has earned. Please act now CFC!

27 Jan 2021 12:07:20
Maybe DD has spoken to a couple of managers but as rumoured, no one is willing to come in to be associated with losing the 10 or the don't want to work under a CEO who thinks he is also the DOF.

27 Jan 2021 08:16:10
So for the second time Lennon admits more players want out on the back of Frimpong. why is that and why has this been allowed to fester from the summer. naybe they don't like playing for the manager. And ges now saýing we need to bring in a replacement . No another loan surely.

27 Jan 2021 08:34:37
mally it was well documented in the summer they wanted out maybe that was lennys way of letting us know half them isn't bothering there arse and just waiting for the move to happen.

we have had a great last few season and no doubt a lot of players have gained interest and agents have informed them of this and it has unsettled them listen if a lot of our players have interest then it shows we have been doing well big money bids have been coming in every season for our players.

its just hard luck a lot of heads have been turned at the same time and its probably had a big effect on this seasons performances we should ship out as many possible this window and it looks like we will be bringing ben Davies in from what iv read he looks a good signing.

27 Jan 2021 08:41:41
What did Lennon expect. He slatted the players at the start of the season say some players don't want to be there. And if that's the case they can leave. What happens then is guys down tools like eddy and ntcham. After a season like this is it any wonder frimpong wants to go. By the way the lad have a lot to learn. Far from the finished article. Sure more will follow.

27 Jan 2021 09:28:36
United ireland, u make a great point in terms of recent success and players being noticed for that, however is it not also possible that the players just aren’t happy under the current regime at the same time?

27 Jan 2021 10:09:11
yes and no gerry. but there comes a point when players will want to leave we have had eddy for 4 seasons ntcham for 4 seasons ajar has been here since Ronny Delia so i think its just a natural parting of the ways for some players. soon as Christie has a good season he think he is to good for us.

i think Frimpong's head was turned away last January as well cheers for the 11 million see you later and all the above should be moved on to. i like big ajar but if he wants out then its see you later. i don't think its the current regime its the 80 and 90 grands a week and the so called glamour leagues.

ntcham and eddy will probs still talk to dembele he is on 100 grand a week earning more in two or 3 month than what one of them will in a year at us. plus he will be living in a villa now in the sun playing for a team top of la liga they have no connection to the club or love it the way we do so a 100 grand a week living in the sun in a villa or 15 a week staying in glasgow haha that's the way they see it soon as there is interest they will lose interest in staying here.

27 Jan 2021 10:48:13
United ireland, fair points. I’m like most, if any player not wanting to be there then they can go. I get your point on edouard, ntcham aswell to a point, yeah he’s been here 4 years but by god the talent we know he has he’s barely kicked a ball for Celtic for a long time now so I’d gladly see the back of him, preferably this month. Christie rogic etc, wouldn’t bother if they went this month either. Edouard is definitely going as will ajer, just a matter of when but out of the names we’ve both mentioned, I think it’s safe to say in the main only ajer looks like he’s willing to fight, the rest are just going through the motions. Now that for me is where Lennons let himself down. Playing christie, rogic, ntcham, frimpong etc etc. If lennon knows they want out, and performances have been way below expected of them then lennon wasn’t slow in outing these guys earlier in the season, he’d probably have gained more respect had he just put them aside and went with different personnel. These players sign the contracts they’re on, they aren’t forced and while I accept heads can be turned, players want new challenges, players also need to respect the club and play to their ability to get good moves, not spit the dummy and give half arsed performances. if they aren’t committed to giving their best till such times as they get the moves they so desperately crave then they should be wearing the jersey.

27 Jan 2021 11:28:23
agreed gary that's why a lot of the blame should lay on there shoulders for this poor season they have been a joke deciding to through the towel in this season of all seasons after working so hard to get there just shows the club achieving records means nothing to them. and Lennon is at fault for picking them to when they were half interested.

27 Jan 2021 12:23:43
agree with most of you lads about players not interested but the board and in particular DD have not led by example as they seem to be sleeping while at the wheel, if any of DD's other business interests were failing the way the club is he would act immediately by replacing those that are not up to the mark.

27 Jan 2021 14:34:06
These guys are also playing away from home so the connection with glasgow/ Scotland is less than natives
Same or better money somewhere else has less of an emotional constraint.