Celtic Banter Archive February 27 2021

 

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27 Feb 2021 22:17:47
Thoughts on Laxalt? It's highly unlikely we would sign him or want too, but tbh I know he has flaws but I have never seen a player give his all as much. He needs coaching and calming down but if AC wanted rid and we could get him for 2m, a good coach could make him a very good gull back. Just my opinion.

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27 Feb 2021 23:44:38
Every time he is in play he gives away fouls. rank rotten.

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27 Feb 2021 23:46:56
He’s too old calm down enough.

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28 Feb 2021 00:07:47
He's 28 and likely as good as he'll ever be. It's a no for me. I don't think Taylor is the answer either but he's much better than Laxalt.

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28 Feb 2021 08:43:52
I thought Laxalt had something about him when he first joined us, unfortunately whatever that was has long disappeared.
It's a No from me.

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28 Feb 2021 09:37:46
Heidless chicken with nae end product Diego Christie.

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28 Feb 2021 11:09:38
Hes had 1 good game for us and even in that game he cost a goal.

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28 Feb 2021 11:27:29
I actually think he is better than some of you are giving him credit for.

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28 Feb 2021 12:53:23
He is not good enough to wear a Celtic jersey. His positional sense is terrible, he gives away to many silly fouls and he cannot defend set pieces. (Then again, he is not the only one)

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01 Mar 2021 09:51:46
Not a terrible player but also not a player i would want to pay anything over £3m for.

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27 Feb 2021 20:51:15
Please get Bain out of the No. 1 spot. He’s a liability. Hazard. If they’re in the squad and good enough then give them the chance. Today was always going to be brutal. Playing the same team again so soon. 3 points was all that mattered. Win ugly. And it was ugly. Edouard is trying to get his stock back up but he’s not flipping Messi. Greedy player now without his mates. I think the subs were actually good. Reacted to the Aberdeen changes. Shored it up a bit and left his captain on rightly. The Aberdeen TV commentary guy Lee Mair was raging that Brown was dictating play. Good. Also seemed better communication on the sidelines between JK SM and GS. Next game will be the real indicator of whether or not anything has changed with Lennon’s departure. JK was on a no win scenario today. Clean sheet and 3 points. Still fans moaning. JK doesn’t even want the job going by his post match comments.

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27 Feb 2021 17:12:11
Step up WGS brilliant and for me hits a few nails right on the head. Steady pantywetters lol ' what realistic change do we need '
Hail Hail and hope you and family well ED. Me and mine have all been hit by C.V. so stay safe guys 🙏

The Happy Turnkey.

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{Ed007's Note - Sorry to hear that mate and hopefully you're all getting sorted and back to the best of health. We're all fine thanks 👍

28 Feb 2021 00:19:40
Sorry to read you and your family have had issues with C. V.
I hope you all get back to very good health Turnkey.

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27 Feb 2021 17:38:06
A bit of an anti climax if I'm honest. Was expecting JK to change things up and put across his own ideas. Same s#$t different game.

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27 Feb 2021 17:50:59
The thing that had to be changed first, as I have been saying for ages, Brown has to be dropped, with him in the team, you have someone who plays mostly in defence, doing the stuff, defenders should be doing, leaving your midfield short, ridiculous substitution today, taking of Turnbull, instead of Brown.

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27 Feb 2021 18:19:25
Think Kev83 summed it up earlier with the 'Who' lyrics:- "Meet the new boss - Same as the old boss" I suppose you can only pick from the squad you have, but it was definitely a 'deja-vu' performance.
At least we won, but still can't wait for this to end and hope to God we get the right appointment in place ASAP and find the real Celtic!

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27 Feb 2021 20:49:57
Kennedy is just holding the fort. Honestly Fans are so fickle. He's obviously played brown for leadership on the pitch. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. But some of you are just moaning B#stards. The guy takes charge midweek and you expect him to revolutionise the team? We wanted Lennon gone and he is gone. So what is it? Just moan at the next thing not to ypur liking? He won the game, He done what he had to do.

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27 Feb 2021 21:06:42
It’s my team and I’ll moan if I want to 😎😂.

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27 Feb 2021 22:27:26
Not sure what people are expecting after one game tbh.

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27 Feb 2021 23:46:12
a lot more than that pish today. its simple they are professionals start to prove it. you get well paid to perform.

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28 Feb 2021 01:03:43
I fecking can't believe Lennedy is real Ed!

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28 Feb 2021 02:12:21
Ed. Still up etc. Very surprising for me tbh. Can we have a Putin of the Week award going forward? The craic for the nominations would be sensational imo. Keep up the good work. Best F.

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27 Feb 2021 17:26:33
Celtic TV has been like PRAVDA all season but there was a bit of dissent today. Why only now? The female commentator asked 'What was the point of Neil resigning if John Kennedy changes nothing? ' Fair point.

Strachan said JK needs to forget what went before and stamp his own ideas on team. He also asked what kind of change do Celtic as a club want? Decide the style of football we want to play then go find the manager that plays that style. He didn't sound like he thought for one second that JK was a long term solutions Fair point.

Stubbsie said JK needs to stamp his mark on the team over the remaining games to stake his claim as a contender for the job. Fair point but I can't see it and obviously at odds with Strachan.

As i said though the strange thing was the dissent and their didn't appear to be a party line any longer. Why? Why now? What's changed? Why was what we were watching beyond criticism previously?

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27 Feb 2021 17:31:07
Kennedy looks like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world right now to me. I've always got that impression from him that he's disinterested or maybe that's just his normal demeanor?

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27 Feb 2021 17:45:43
Kennedy probably knows that he has no chance of getting the Celtic job but he should use these next games to show other clubs what he can do instead of just carrying on the same crap that Lennon put us through.

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27 Feb 2021 18:20:30
JK is a number two in every sense of the word.

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27 Feb 2021 18:41:42
OAB lol
Jonbhoy I think jk showed us what he can do today, that may be the problem.
For me we miss too many chances and don't kill teams off early and that is down to the players, yeh tactics, game plan etc can be worked on but Strachan hit the nail on the head when he mentioned mentality and you have to want it, want to do and be better and I think too many are and have been going through the motions. It would appear that we supporters lifted many of these players the way only the Celtic support can, which some can't do on their own.
But I still feel not enough effort has been put in, can't blame the manager for Christie's/ eddy's miss against Ross county, ajeti hitting the post against them in the league cup game and there are many more I could go through but I'd rather not.
I'm with jfp on this 1, feel it's weird timing so not sure if the girl presenter is not worried about repercussions as lawell is on the way out, or there has been a change of stance in terms of who may come in and who isn't getting the job, JK?
Who knows but if shes not on the next game we will know why lol.

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27 Feb 2021 17:06:22
There was never going to be a bounce back or massive change in preferences because basically we aren't a very good team.
The sooner the season ends the better.
Imagine how many goals eddy would get if he would just shot more often.

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27 Feb 2021 18:05:16
We’ve not got a bounce back in us. We’re on our ar$e.

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27 Feb 2021 17:05:31
Ok I'm done with klamilla. When did Eddie start being so greedy he's got so bad when moi came on he had fight. Christie passing woefull calmac there is no belief anymore. The amount of passes to the side we had it was a borfest. I was looking forward to this game for changes we need a clean out. As for eddy doing a couple of things great in the game is not enough he misses more sitters than he scores not gd enough. Kennedy can go might as well cal him wee Lenny.
The sitters we miss to Finnish games off no wonder teams believe they can steel a point.
On the positive pass marks for defence except laxault. What where the subs about . All of a sudden we have no flair players except Turnbull who sees a pass. Christie calmac use to do great passes this is dire and probly worse. I'm trying to defend us but I can't and as for bain another who messes about going to cost us games with that crap.

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27 Feb 2021 17:44:01
JK is just going to carry on where NL left-off and the players are well and truly in a rut; either waiting for their moves in the summer or desperate for a new manager to come in and give them the guidance and inspiration they crave - not to mention a fitness program as a lack of stamina has been very evident.
Again we dominate, again we fail to capitalize on huge possession. Too many sideways and backwards passes, no drive, flair or spark from a team low on confidence and lacking ideas and creativity.
After an hour we tire (as usual) and give opponents a sniff; this time the defense who had a solid performance, stood firm.
It's three points more than Aberdeen and Hibs got today so it virtually guarantees a very weak runner-up spot, but on these very average performances and lack of energy we will struggle to defy Sevco at Celtic Park in three weeks?

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27 Feb 2021 17:51:07
92 mins I'll never get back.

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27 Feb 2021 18:15:12
Pedro you should have had a Bovril.

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27 Feb 2021 20:53:54
Klimala is never a celtic player and we were warned prior to signing him that he was average.

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28 Feb 2021 07:06:17
Said before we need a 6 yard striker hh.

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27 Feb 2021 16:51:18
Kenny is a proper fb excellent again and we need to be signing this boy.

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27 Feb 2021 17:20:50
Mally I said it on the live chat get him signed up ASAP whatever it costs, great fullback n plays like he’s been here for years. Polish paddy should score from his fantastic cross in the 1st half.

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27 Feb 2021 17:27:37
Definitely Mally. But Laxalt is not the answer at left back. We can certainly do better than him.

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27 Feb 2021 17:54:31
Agree Mally, I said in the Live Chat today that Kenny at RB looks the business (I know he's only been here 5mins) but good on the ball, solid tackler and get's forward with good crossing ability.

Laxalt isn't an option for me at all.

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27 Feb 2021 18:03:13
no chance that we will sign Kenny on a permanent deal, Ancelotti has already said that the boy still has a future at Everton and that's why there was no option to buy in the deal.
Also with the valuations and transfers in the EPL it would also take between £15 - £20 million to get him and we won't pay that for a RB.

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27 Feb 2021 18:31:21
Jonbhoy I'm sure ed007 reckoned it could be nearer to £5-7 million as he only has a year odds left on his contract, if I'm wrong apologies. At that price he would be a steal.

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27 Feb 2021 14:45:50
Let's see if klamilla can finally take his chance up front with eddy or we could try klamilla and ajeti.
New young lad on the team mongumery think he's a forward let's see what he can do. I get a feeling a few will up there A game today and play better. Well they are fighting to keep there jobs or do we need a clear out.

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27 Feb 2021 15:47:28
Well Andy up till now he's been single fish.

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27 Feb 2021 16:51:31
Thoughts on today’s performance?

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27 Feb 2021 17:07:04
As soon as he set up and played the way I expected his team to play, that was enough for me to make my decision.

Kennedy, is not the man to be our manager and the quicker he gets replaced by a quality manager the better.

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27 Feb 2021 17:08:06
🤣Yep @mally klamilla garbage Eddie misses more sitters than he scores not gd enough. How could it go so bad so quickly as for brown he was done in by the 60th min Christie drive him to the airport.

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27 Feb 2021 17:08:13
Typical performance can't Bury teams eddy should have 3.

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27 Feb 2021 17:36:46
I don't think anyone expects Kennedy to be there in any capacity next season, certainly not on the coaching team. I understand he's been promised a job for life and that's a class gesture from us but total rebuild is required. I've alluded to our lack of fitness before and it was evident again today. Fitness is the bare minimum and we haven't even got that. Roll on next season.

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27 Feb 2021 17:56:02
Job for life, , Kennedy should be away in May.

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27 Feb 2021 14:43:00
Anyone think we need a new goalkeeping coach when new manager come in. Due to the shambles in the position this season.

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27 Feb 2021 14:53:20
Or is it poor goalkeeers?

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27 Feb 2021 14:57:28
Naw Woods is one of the best in the business.

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27 Feb 2021 14:58:39
No cork, I’m happy with Stevie woods . He’s done well with previous keepers, yes barkas hasn’t worked out, some of his saves on YouTube suggested there was a keeper there, unfortunately the move doesn’t look like it’s worked out for him.

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27 Feb 2021 15:03:32
The defense needs sorting before the goalie IMO.

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27 Feb 2021 16:50:04
The manager needs sorting before anything.

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27 Feb 2021 17:06:31
The board needs sorting before appointing a manager 😜.

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27 Feb 2021 14:40:15
A gd performance and win today. Hopefully. We can see where we are at for the future.
Playing gets soro zero game time now is the time to we'd out the ones who could not raise there game for Europe and domestic. A few won't be here after 10 games so let's see what the other can do.

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27 Feb 2021 14:48:53
Diro is a good player mi doubt but I think he'd been off it a bit recently, but will be huge next season Imo.

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27 Feb 2021 14:22:23
Well when jk picks his team the day it's Got to be an attacking team as he couldn't defend to save his beak lol.

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27 Feb 2021 14:29:26
Very disappointed with the team line up today.

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27 Feb 2021 17:39:13
John Kennedy was a great defender before he was cut down long before his prime. Not sure where you get that he couldn't defend from.

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27 Feb 2021 13:05:27
ED and fellow Tim's, a wee recommendation to watch a documentary called "The Three Kings" It's a great bit of nostalgia about Stein, Shankly and Busby.
HH and KTF🍀.

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27 Feb 2021 14:37:12
I liked the quote by big jock and Shankly "The holy trinity is the manager player's and fans. Director's are only for signing cheques"

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27 Feb 2021 16:52:26
Was a good documentary, watched it a couple of weeks ago.

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27 Feb 2021 12:15:18
Just seen what is porported to be JK provisional Squad.
Of 28 players as many as 19 could be gone come June.
AS i see it only the following players may be there next season

Ralston
Welsh
Taylor
MacGregor
Soro
Forrest
Johnston
Connell
Turnbull.

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27 Feb 2021 13:04:01
I reckon McGregor will be gone. His form has been terrible and I think he wants out. Didn’t we knock back Rodgers for him recently?

Ajer, Duffy, laxalt, Kenny, hendry, boli, brown, McGregor, Christie, ntcham, rogic, moi, shved, Eddie could very well all be away. Barkas and ajeti might also fancy moving on, or be moved on. Will be lucky to field a side.

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27 Feb 2021 13:31:06
That should be about right apart from ralston.

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27 Feb 2021 14:56:54
Sorry not Ralston meant to say Ross Doohan.

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27 Feb 2021 10:27:24
Lads was thinking about the new manager situation.
I don't follow English football And when Rodgers came in I'd never heard of him and if he had actually won or done nything.
When Lenny came back i thought be gd to Finnish the rest of Rodgers season when he left.
I also thought we would have a replacement manager for Lenny and Lenny could have left like a super hero. But I support Celtic so we go with it.
My point is I supported Lenny how can it go so bad so quickly all that in house stuff and secrets etc is pathetic grown men and all that. The bitching was unbelievable do some of these players forget who pays there wages.
Today against the Dons If we see a huge difference today in about 5 celtic players I won't mention them, then we wil know. My opinion is for them allegedly downing tools they can GTF.
We could all see something was wrong at Xmas then it all crashed Lenny said BACK then he would leave if he thought he was not the right man.
So I judged him on his confidence or arrogance, I'm starting to think HIS arrogance the sneering and bad attitude in the live interviews. You could see something was off.
Now this did not just happen it was accumulating and accelerating fast. There was nothing to worry about at Xmas Lenny should have left then I think the changes could all have been made and we would not be in this situation then boom why did Lenny not hand in notice when it got to much for him as that decision was not for the love of the club that he stayed.

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27 Feb 2021 11:21:19
Let me ask you this Andy, if you were doing your dream job would you just leave, especially if you had no other job to leave to?

Lennon was never going to leave and I am sure that he tried his best and never gave up while he was there.

At the end of the day, this decision was the boards to make and they made it far too late.

This downward trend was visible at the start of the season and gradually got worse. There was the occasional upturn but the overall trend was a decline. At the start of the season I attributed it to a dip in form and fully expected things to change due to the quality of our squad. However, that kickstart never happened.

The board should have acted in December when they gap would have been easy to close and should have been done before the Rangers game. This would hopefully have kickstarted our season, gave the new manager time to assess the squad and try and strengthen the key areas in January. Why that did not happen, only the board know but they dropped the ball on this, big time. This in my opinion is unforgiveable and I suspect many of our support will not forget this neglegance.

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27 Feb 2021 11:33:56
A lot of good points and questions Andy in your post.

The truth is we'll never really know what went on in the background this at the start of this season but a culmination of several factors sunk our ship before it even the the dock.


* NL was a downgrade on BR - modern day biscuit tin mentality by PL
* Key 1st team players wanted transferred last Summer and never got away
* These same players downed tools and no doubt that negativity went through the dressing room like a cancer
* Poor transfers were made during the transfer window
* Players bought in the transfer window who proved, when it was too late that they could do a job, weren't played
* Form went out the window
* Poor team selections/ tactics/ formations
* Defence was non existent
* Add in Dubai and impact of C.V. and it's the perfect storm.

But if I were to pinpoint one key decision went a very long way to deciding how we were going to prepare for and perform this season it would be;-

(1) the board, by not having a quality manager and coaching staff ready to come in at the end of last season to replace NL, caused a domino effect that ripped the arse out of the entire season and ensured we were at a disadvantage before the first ball was kicked. IMHO.

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27 Feb 2021 11:55:05
LAW, to be fair your question is not comparing like for like.

If you asked me, as a Celtic supporter, if I were a millionaire former player getting paid a small fortune to manage the Club I loved amd despite every best effort failed to the extent that even my friends and former teammates said that by not resigning I was hurting the very Club I loved, yes, I would resign.

Why, because I love the Club, I love my family, I'm not greedy and also continuing with the level of criticism, day in day out, would not help my own mental well being.

I'd also like to think that by doing this, for the reasons stated, any reasonable Celtic supporter would understand and respect my position.

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27 Feb 2021 12:44:12
Fair views lads. Cheers for input.

Is anyone getting excited about what Kennedy can do or change. He's workef under a few winning manager surely he must have thought I could be a winner at this. Maybe he could do it better. Think my heart is ruling head today. 🙃🤣.

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27 Feb 2021 13:03:53
Am not excited Andy can't wait for season to be over . only comfort is the new club can't celebrate the way they would like, sad yep guilty as charged and they would be the same.

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27 Feb 2021 13:09:45
@Pedro - Fair enough Lennon's circumstance may be different from ours. However, it is still his dream job and I am sure he felt he could turn it around and tried his best to do that.

Also, we do not know his financial situation or what else was happening behind the scenes.

Personally I don't think Lennon done anything wrong by not resigning sooner (I also doubt he resigned at all) and it is hard to judge if we would have done the same if we were in his shoes.

Perhaps in the future details of what happened behind the scenes will emerge and we will have a better understanding of his rationale.

All that being said, do you not think it was the board who should have acted sooner?

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27 Feb 2021 13:10:31
LaW, Lennon was already a multimillionaire thanks to football and Celtic. Having no job to go to isn’t a good argument here. I’ll accept the dream job part, but surely he could see it wasn’t working, and if he cared about Celtic as much as he says, then walking away is for the good of the club. If I’m in his position (millionaire) after the 2 in 12 slump, I genuinely believe I’d consider the damage I was doing to the club and the fans if I let going. It seems clear he’d lost the dressing room, and I can’t he how that cane ever be fixed without wholesale player changes.

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27 Feb 2021 13:12:39
IMO Lennon should have gone after the first the rangers game, but the board should have definitely pulled the trigger after losing 4-1 at home to Prague.

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27 Feb 2021 13:25:43
How on earth have you not heard of Brendan Rodgers. Fitness? Give me a break. .

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27 Feb 2021 13:26:52
Thats thd issue with Scottish football. Very blinkrred.

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27 Feb 2021 14:15:33
@Aussie ray
I really only follow Celtic don't really care for the rest.
Rodgers was never in the bookies list till the last min when they stopped taking bets.
The sports I follow you would not know any of them but these guys earn 10 times more than any footballer that's why. You asked me to give you a break which part do you want me to break 🤣.

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27 Feb 2021 15:37:21
LAW, we're on the same page. Three things that should have happened;-

* PL should never have offered NL the job in the showers
* The board should have come to an agreement for NL to leave on the back of Europa pumpings from Prague
* NL should have walked far earlier than he did.

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27 Feb 2021 09:46:00
I don't have a Scooby how the processe goes as far as appointing a manager or a DoF But surely they have talked about this for some time and surely they have names already to interview or approach. IMO IF we are going for a DoF we need him in Yesterday to start getting things going forward I understand people will say we need time to get the right people in I agree but how much time do the board need They must have been talking about this from ATLEAST Christmas There is a lot of work to do from now until the start of the new season and time is running out to get organised.

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27 Feb 2021 10:53:48
The warning signs were there since as early as Oct/ Nov that this season was taking a nosedive and there was a sideshow of other issues and problems that were not just going to sort themselves out.
Most other big clubs would have heeded the warnings and would have had the foresight to meet, diagnose, plan and execute a solution. However, being Celtic, we waited and suffered; jumping form crisis to crisis all the while, we were humiliated in Europe and domestic trophies were being written-off, one by one.
Here we are almost in March, still wondering, worrying and waiting.

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27 Feb 2021 11:45:03
My hope is that DD has learned a painful but valuable lesson this season if all seasons.

In the past 20ish years we have been second best, with little hope, DD has stepoed in and produced MON and BR, the two most successful managees since Stein.

In recent years when it's been left upto PL its been 'success but on a budget' a bit soap on a rope, novell when you opened it at Christmas but as the year went it proved pretty useless.

IF and until it happens, it's still an IF, we bring in a capable D. O. F followed by a progressive Manager then we should finally put an end to the rollercoaster Managerial experiences we've had in past years.

The D. O. F. implements a structure, ethos and process around the way we play, the players we buy, sell, how we train and our youth set up.

The Manager and future Managers are selected and hired specifically to fit into that style of play and structure and the same goes for the playing staff.

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27 Feb 2021 13:10:40
Pedro71 I’m a bit confused with your post when you said for the past 20ish years we have been second best with little hope and that M O N and BR the two most successful managers since Stein . N Lennon won 10 trophies as manager. O Neill and Rodgers both won 7 and as for being second best how many trophies have we won in that period you refer to.

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28 Feb 2021 16:09:43
Apologies Oldkilly, you're spot on. I've got fingers like Richmond sausages and only noticed I ommitted the word 'when' after I posted and on reflection, should have went further back than 20yrs.

My point being, the days when we were (and some possibly still are) on tenderhooks debating which manager ee should bring in as it seems that one person will somehow wave the proverbial magic wand and make it all great again should be a thing of the past.

All I'm saying is that we need to put as much time and investment into the structure of the footballing side of the club as we've done on the commercial side.

Hence the D. O. F. style of play, process etc

I hope that makes sense.

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27 Feb 2021 08:43:34
I think that JK starting 11 and performance will speak a thousand words in terms of hiw the players felt and acted under Lennon. If they come out and destroy Aberdeen today well we will know how much they thought if Lennon really.

Team line up is anyones guess really but i will throw this out there

Barkas

Kenny
Ajer
Welsh
Laxalt if Taylor injured

McGregor
Soro

Christie
Turnbull
Mio

Edouard.

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27 Feb 2021 11:33:01
I don't think your team or formation will be far from what we see today.

Personally I would go with 4-3-3

Same back lineup, Turnbull, McGregor and Soro in the middle. With Christie and MOI to the side of Eddie.

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27 Feb 2021 06:11:19
We are looking at a big overhaul with possible players leaving and some who should leave. I think that if we bring in the right manager that list may changed and players that are maybe wanting out may end up staying?

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26 Feb 2021 23:59:16
Can't get my head round the Alex Neil Michael O'Neill even Paul Lambert all 3 have rank rotten teams at wrong end of the table actually they should all be in higher leagues We need a coach who can bring on top young players and will all respect I don't see any of those guy's managing to do that.

One guy I would take would be Big Mick Mccarthy for the reason he would probably have us playing an old style rugged 4-4-2 Mick's not my first choice but he would be a safe bet knowing his way around the game if we can't get Steve Clarke in.
HH onwards and upwards.

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27 Feb 2021 09:53:20
And that's me out 🤣🤣.

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