Celtic Banter Archive December 27 2014

27 Dec 2014 22:05:18
Disappointing result but anybody who has played football knows the hardest thing to do is break down a team who are not interested in playing. Fair play to County they are fighting for their lives at the bottom of the table, but we really should have won.

I never seen the possession stats but they must be incredibly one sided, as the corners and goal attempts should be, but we need a schemer to play slip passes in behind teams set up like they were.My biggest concern was our final ball, at times it was appalling.This must be addressed as this is what we will face all season, perhaps some more long range shooting might help?

I also think we are not carrying one piece of luck at the moment, Guidetti from mcGregors rebound being a perfect example, nothing is falling for us at the moment. The players need to have a look at themselves, are they putting in the kind of shift we get from Broony EVERY game? January might be the most important time in our recent history, because we need the deadwood out and some freshness injected into the first team.Starters, no more squad or projects.

27 Dec 2014 22:33:36
The bottom line is,no matter how much we try to make sense out of the way we're playin,be it formation or changing players! The truth is there is no quality in that squad!! From front to back! We've struggled to break down bang average teams from the 1st day of the season! And the guy who scored 32 goals for us last season and is the current player of the year still can't get a start! All this Commons can't fit in to the way delia wants to play is utter nonsense! If the manager can't find a way to fit our best player into the team then Uve got to ask if he knows what the hell he's doin! The facts are there for all to see! If Aberdeen win 2morrow they go 2 points away from us,goin into January! Not even nearly good enough for our great proud club!

Forget about Commons he WAS great last season . He has had numerous chances this season and has been very poor . There isn't much Deila can do when everytime he plays him, Commons plays poorly .

I would say maybe the Bhoys had too much Turkey but performances have been up and down lately mainly down bit on the plus side we kept a clean sheet some people can't be pleased haha

I know its controversial, but maybe RD is the problem, a good coach but not a manager.

28 Dec 2014 01:13:07
Numerous chances!! When? Forget commons!! Use have got short memories by the way! When did commons last get a run of games? Now I'd understand totally if we were bangin in goals for fun every week! Then I'd see your point! But how can u forget a guy who's scored 30 plus goals last season who's goals per game ratio is better than anyone at that club when we can't score a single goal against the leagues bottom team!!

{Ed007's Note - Stokes scores a goal every 2.36 games and Commons averages a goal every 2.38 games. John Guidetti has the best ratio with a goal every 1.54 games, so that puts Commons in third place..... if you go with the stats. Commons' one goal in 33 apps season (2011/12) is always going to drag his stats down.}

28 Dec 2014 01:31:49
Totally agree that the season he scored one drags him down ed.just think that at the moment we need all the goals we can get! And on the subject of Guiddeti,who I rate by the way! How many games is that he's gone without a goal? And how many chances has he passed up? Should we forget him to? I know everyone has there opinions,just think with the lack of real quality at the moment commons is a better option than what we've been playin lately.

{Ed007's Note - Why when he's not going to be here?}

Statistics, statistics and damn lies, don't suppose, ed, you could break those statistics down into games against easy teams, goals from penalties, etc

{Ed007's Note - You suppose right.}

28 Dec 2014 01:40:28
What and that's a good thing he's not going to be here? Suppose not,we've got stokes Forrest mcgregor scepovic and wakaso bangin in the goals so we'll be Awrite a guess! Roll on New Year's Day when they all score a barrel load against partick!

{Ed007's Note - It looks like Stokes will be injured for the Partick game.}

Wasn't KCs only goal that season against the team that is no more?

27 Dec 2014 17:01:59
How many points have we dropped so far in the league? How many more weeks of trial and error in the attacking positions? How many more games of history repeating itself? After last week the cry was 'give Griffiths a start!' This week it will be 'give scepovic a start!' And the drop Guddetti calls will be next. There just seems a genuine lack of real quality in all areas. I personally would love to know what Biton offers to the team that he can get a regular game in such a vital position. Brown must be raging having to do the work of 2 in there every week. Markie.

It makes no odds that we may have temporarily increased our lead until Aberdeen play; the facts are plain and simple we are a shadow of the quality and standard we expect at Celtic.
RD is obviously perplexed and maybe panicking as to how many missed chances he sees week in week out and it must be addressed in January.

Completely agree Markie, the worrying thing for me is this was a typical performance from us. We have a good performance once in a blue moon and everybody thinks we going to be world beaters because of a system and a pressing game. Total nonsense.This is exactly the type of game we would a scored a late goal in past seasons.Good to know Rd has a plan B tho, throw the big yin up.

27 Dec 2014 17:38:02
Rookie manager lacking any sort of tactical awareness.At least the players are in contention for sliders the year.

27 Dec 2014 17:54:30
Slimers *

Slimmer's even

It's so sad that our members on here although fans, are not supporters .
We all know that we are not world beaters and that it would be very nearly impossible to be so in such a small league . When we play well and win there are no comments, there are very few to praise them but after today's performance and result the editors will be on overtime. As Deila tries to enforce his game plans, there will be good, bad and indifferent performances
We cannot change from a defensive minded team from the O'Neil era to the attacking and pressing game Deila is determinated to achieve .

27 Dec 2014 18:33:32
I`m afraid no amount of tinkering with formations is going to radically improve us. We simply lack any real quality in this team. Also too many ineffectual, average players for any one team to cope with at any one time. I also can`t think of anyone I would miss cone January. The sad truth is, we are only top because the teams around us are worse than we are, and that really is a sad indictment for Celtic FC.

As a have said in countless occasions in the backwater of Scottish football it is far far to easy for opponents to cancel/countermand this style

Against a team that are bottom of the league ffs!, we were dire / awful today, Maybe a 6 for Brown who was our best player

Just like to congratulations to Alan Stubbs today for the result/performance of the day a team build on maximum flexibility built on shape/formations well done Stubbsy

27 Dec 2014 18:52:02
Thanks for that Big D

@ chis you are seriously havin a laff mate. If this is the standard you want for our great club then I pity you.On another thread you talk about last8 of CL. We are a million miles away from that. There has been plenty of praise on here for Rd (some blinded praise). You mention a defensive team previously, I ain't no statto but I would have a good guess that this team has scored less goals up to now than many if not all the defensive teams you mentioned.

I have supported RD on here and still do, but he needs to switch to 4-4-2 straight away.

I think you just read what you choose to read Chris. I have posted plenty of praise on here when it has been warranted. But the idea of a forum I thought was to debate/discuss both the good and bad not just the good and then stick your head in the sand when things are going obviously wrong. And I'm problably not the only one on here who takes exception to being told we weren't 'supporters' of the club we love just because we have the audacity to critisize the obvious failings. Markie

Team needs investment. January is a few days away and players Deila needs will be signed.

End of the day we are top of the league, in all 3 competitions and team will be bolstered in january. Clear cut case of people wanting Deila to fail

Dn30 it's more clear that people are sick of watching inept performances especially at home, if anyone who thinks ronny and the team are doing ok then they obviously don't go to games.

Jim1972 that comment you made about "going to games" is that meant to give some sort of superiority of opinion againist someone who can't go to every game?

The vast majority of us are not happy with things at present - or have been for a season or three now - so it is neither a case of not supporting the team or a Deila witch-hunt.
The Standard of football is not good enough for a club of our traditions and reputation.
Entertaining performances are few and far between and we are not utilising our vastly superior advantages in Scotland.
The players have had more than enough time to adapt to new systems, techniques and tactics, but too many players are ineffective from week to week and that is wrong.

No it's just a fact if you sit and watch the games in person you'll be less inclined to post garbage like " IN DEILA WE TRUST" what we are watching is very poor and ronny can tell us what we want to hear but I personally doubt he can deliver a style of play of he says he wants.

Well heres a wee fact for you. Although I gave up season ticket cause moving abroad next month, there's actually hardly any games I've missed. Again total irrelevant to the fact that squad has been $hit and only got worse past few seasons!

Its always cheap digs from a few on this at Deila and standard of football chat. didn't hear too many complaints from these people last season WHEN STANDARD FOR FAR WORSE.

Its fans like yourself that claim to go to games that think they are experts, but are that naive to realise we cannot afford to lose anymore £ on duff transfers such as last seasons wastage. Deila has evidently been told to assess squad, make do with loan signings then in january money will be spent. He has done well with this in mind and it will be interesting to see peoples opinion come May

IN DELIA WE TRUST

28 Dec 2014 00:22:14
Dn30, what makes u think money will be spent in January, I doubt it, maybe a few loans, that will be it, plus no half decent player moves in January, just dead wood that club's are trying to get of the wage bill, and we have enough dead wood.

@DN you havin a laff again.Cheap digs? isn't that what you did all last season to NL. Standards are worse last season? Really? We had more points last season, scored more goals last season, conceded less goals last season, had top goal scorer last season, were in CL last season. Oh but don't worry we may win a cup. Check the attendancies mate the crowd don't believe you.

Nobody can deny that there aren't more posts tonight after the dire draw than there was when we were in the middle of a ten match domestic winning run.
Which wasn't that long ago.

DaBhoy I think they will spend in january. I think they will be well aware they have to as standard has slipped over past few seasons. i'm not talking huge amounts, but enough to improve squad. I know what your saying about decent players don't tend to move half way through season, but I will not be surprised if we sign player(s) from Norway.

DN30, its not investment we need .its managrment, maybe its your opinion that standard was worse last year, but I have to disagree, this year is the worst standard of football that there has been for many years, .

28 Dec 2014 06:44:58
"in Delia we trust"! poor old Dn30, in your haste to discredit our last manager (who's doing pretty good in a much more difficult league with a club you wouldn't even consider to be as good as our great club) threw all your eggs in the 1 basket and are now struggling to defend a coach that has been found out.
Now your knowledge of Norwegian coaches is been coupled by your knowledge of Norwegian players?.
So Delia is hoping to raid the Norwegian market and bring in players, this January, to create the all singing all dancing, free flowing, European winning football team?.
In the words of a famous glaswegian gardeners "who are these guys, I want to know there names?.
That basket you have threw all your eggs into DN, be careful you don't fall into it and end up coming out of it with more egg on your chin.
BTW, happy new year to you and hope you settle well in your new location as Scotlands ambassador in Norway. I

TTTS sorry how can you possibly say we are not doing better than last year at this point? As previously stated we are in all competitions which was not the case last season and were on a good run untill recently- losing againist Dundee United and Drawing againist Ross County.

Clearly you are the type who is more happy with a "clean sheet record" rather than winning silverware. Says it all really.

You have a pop at me for highlighting in past that Deila turned a mediocre club in Stromgodset into title winners and cup winners. Really don't see your argument.

Didnt see you complaing about Johansen or club being linked with Odegaard. Who developed them by the way?

Its smart business this day in age when operating on a budget, to give a new manager time to assess the squad before giving any significant amount of money to spend. Too much wasted by previous management and that cannot happen again.

TTTS as previously exposed only reason you don't like Deila is cause he doesn't fit this profile you are obsessed about.

28 Dec 2014 13:55:33
What profile is that DN?, you continue to bring up this old chestnut, I'm not quite sure what you assume about me?.
Please enlighten so as to give me a chance to answer.
As for Johanson I haven't comment on him as he's quite an uneventful, under the radar type of player(Kayal is a better player than him and Biton) And the wonder 15 year old? He's playing in the Norwegian league! . You'll see young lads performing tricks and turns at many clubs, few make it, another work in progress that might make it . No, I haven't commented on either simply because at present neither of them are Celtic standard.

Some people think Deila is a rookie Manager. That's just the same type of thinking that English people have of Scottish based footballers or management . To my mind Deila had managed a team in Norway who would be more than capable of beating most SPL teams . I don't think anyone following any Spl team should spend too long looking down their noses at other European Leagues .

30 Dec 2014 04:54:39
we are Celtic fc and should set the bar higher!