Celtic Banter Archive August 27 2020

27 Aug 2020 21:13:18
Ajer, Ntcham and Christie : If they want away then let's get them out fast and get them replaced fast too. Should've been done before now. HH.

27 Aug 2020 21:32:34
I’m surprised Christie wants to leave, he’s played out of his skin so far. Disappointing to hear that, not surprised about the other two.

27 Aug 2020 21:34:09
Think we can take it that Eddy will be off as well; We must get the replacements in the door FIRST or we will struggle to name a team.

27 Aug 2020 21:55:02
Why is Lennon playing players that don't want to be here? Interesting team selection this weekend.

27 Aug 2020 22:35:40
I think you are overreacting, wanting away,?, wanting to better themselves,? of course they do want to better themselves, but if they are being asked to play out of their best position, asked to leave themselves to be open to criticism from the fans, because they don't perform well, of course they are going to want to leave, but there is an easy solution, play the best players in their best position, don't play the best players in a wrong position because someone, not so good is playing in that position,
It's like Feng Shui, grasshopper, harmony will be achieved by playing the best players in their best positions, you understand?
Yes master.

27 Aug 2020 23:04:06
Scottish football gets a lot of stick at my work. I always give an honest assessment of where we are. I talked up virg (how could I not) , wanyama and tierney. To me dembele is ok. Decent epl standard but not brilliant. Eddy is a class above. I was asked about Christie. For me he isn't good enough for EPL. Armstorng is gar better and.

27 Aug 2020 23:09:32
Clicked send by mistake. Armstrong is far better and it took him a while to get used to the demands. If Christie wants out then see you later. Guy thinks he's better than he is. If he wants to stay then fair enough as long as he keeps trying to improve. Ntcham is a good player but rarely turns up. Ajer can be replaced. He isn't a lenny type of centre back anyway. By the way Barkas isn't a lenny keeper either. We need to decide how we want to play. Barkas would be brilliant for brenda but doesn't look like he want to punt it like lenny wants. What is our style? These are the tactical decisions he has to make.

27 Aug 2020 23:12:15
no being funny but where is an actual source that they have asked for valuations? im no doubting it but lennons comments last night along with 2 players that clubs have shown interest rocks up headlines.

27 Aug 2020 20:36:49
I thought that psg had a first chance of buyng back Eddy? Lennon with his comments is right he was calling iut there attitudes and desire to play for the club now its up to the players to prove his right or wrong but if reports are correct from sky two have proved him right by their agents askng for valuations for them to be sold on.

27 Aug 2020 20:12:17
so after lenny calls out players wanting away they come public and say it now. i say well done on lennon for going public about it. get them out now it would have been worse to keep them going into a major season for us when there heads some were else. ntcham and christie out we have a brilliant player in the door today for there role turnbull wee can use elyounoussi there to. suprised at christie a good season with us and he thinks he is it.

27 Aug 2020 20:00:17
Guys like Christie and ntcham have a cheek asking away. they were nowhere until Celtic signed them and as for ajer somebody telling this boy he's a player and he's a long way from being top class. from the outside it looks like our club is imploding this year if all years . fecking joke.

27 Aug 2020 20:08:16
do we know if christie is asking for a move? genuine question.

27 Aug 2020 20:23:45
The big question is why are these players wanting away this season of all seasons.
It must be up to Peter Lawwell to find out what’s going on in the dressing room.
We heard the same stories in the media at the start of last season,
Which we thought turned out to be untrue.

27 Aug 2020 20:31:00
Christie IS absolutely wanting a move .100% . he will play and try and be happy enough but he wants England or the continent . preferably continent BUT he has agitated too soon

He will get eaten alive at a west Brom or palace . he is championship level. as he is far far too messy with his decisions and passing

He is a player who sees the lights and wants the glory . he is not a team player and his ego is inflated

Get tae.

27 Aug 2020 19:13:45
Lawell should give Edouard a £60k a week contract for 3 years. We win the League for 10-in-a-row, then listen to offers. Its likely that Edouard has been offered an extra £3k a week, which is not enough to make him want to stay. Tierney went to Arsenal for £75k a week.

27 Aug 2020 19:35:37
Celtic might not need to sell Edouard after all to balance the books.
It looks like a few of his teammates are stepping up after our managers outburst last night.
Lennon can’t ask players to leave if they want too and then the club refuse to give those players their valuations. What a total mess.

27 Aug 2020 20:33:02
A COMPLETE CLUSTER FLIP

I SAID LAST WEEK THERE WERE ISSUES . AND THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES FOR A WHILE NOW.

27 Aug 2020 19:02:34
Omg its a media frenzy players leaving who is one game lost and we are all at sea talking about the football park lights and sevco this is so crazy we have only played 3 games and we getting slaughtered if players want to leave that's up to the club not the media put in the transfer and see you later its absolutely crazy media has to be controlled and people who believe this tripe are clueless we are celtic and come on strong players gone or stay so don't listen to this as the haters want us to lose so
Give the the finger and win the 10.

27 Aug 2020 17:27:47
Here is what I think after last night.
FORGET about europe altogether, take the financial hit, regroup, get rid of players wanting away and concentrate fully on the TEN.

27 Aug 2020 17:50:40
P*ss poor take I'm afraid Tim.

27 Aug 2020 18:16:02
Is the Europa worth all the extra hassle playing Thursday/ Sunday, tired players and little cash.
Pedro will sell at least one player Ajer/ Nitcham maybe both to compensate, put all our efforts this season into domestic football only.

27 Aug 2020 18:20:12
I am a massive fan of Ajer who I think will be a future superstar playing on his natural side.
I’m disappointed he doesn’t want to stay for 10IAR but I can see why he wants to go.
He has constantly been played on the left side of defence ( back 3 or 4 ) .
Even when he partnered Jozo it was the same.
Yet he is the youngest 1st team CB at Celtic.
I think he’s frustrated at Celtic especially when the Celtic fans constantly criticise him.

27 Aug 2020 18:24:18
I'd much rather another treble over a poxy last 32 in EL and jeopardizing the 10. Not a fan of Thurs/ Sun football particularly this season with a hectic enough schedule.

27 Aug 2020 18:42:29
Tim, that is utter Bo**ocks. Do you seriously think we could attract Any kind of decent player without the attraction of European football?
Players that come here know we are a stone to bigger clubs and know playing in Europe helps get them noticed.

27 Aug 2020 20:46:58
Sorry Tim but I just can't agree with you. We should have been at least last 16 in the EL last season and if Copenhagen could get past Istanbul then so could we. Success in Europe is the yardstick by which all Celtic teams are measured and it's why this era will never be at the level of the Lions and the Stein era in general. MON's team came close. Don't get me wrong, 10IAR would be an unbelievable achievement but the club and support are becoming consumed by it in an unhealthy way. It's like the unbeaten run under BR, towards the end we were celebrating dross, scrappy draws because it kept the run going. After that pressure was off we saw a massive improvement in the team again. I'm probably in the minority here but I'd trade the 9IAR we have now to have seen us lift that cup in Seville.

27 Aug 2020 16:35:42
Ntcham and Ajer haven’t been good enough consistently for a while cause they think they can go to a “bigger club”. Get them gone along with Rogic, Griffiths and Bolingoli. Christie needs benched until he can do the basics better. Start Turnbull and Ajeti at the weekend. Go get hickey and let him and Taylor fight it out. Do what Ajax do and give more youth a chance especially homegrown. Lennon is away the end of the season no matter what happens. The fight for the ten starts at the weekend and hopefully a few folk get the kick up the bum they’ve been needing from this including Lennon who seems to be goading Peter Lawwell with his rubbishty team selections in the first rounds of Euro comps.

27 Aug 2020 16:59:55
Why you picking on Ntcham and Ajer?, there has been somebody else who has consistently not performing, and you don't even mention him, I would keep Ntcham, with McGregor, Christie and Turnbull and him, you have the makings of a very, very good midfield.

27 Aug 2020 17:14:29
Aindoh is that Brown or Lennon or both?

27 Aug 2020 17:38:39
Brown should be dropped, captain or not he offers nothing nowadays - always slowing the play and passing backwards

I even think Cal Mac has been poor he seems less confident and is starting to play sideways and backwards

Forrest - not sure where he has been over the past few footballing months

Taylor is poor, Boli is a joke

Something isn’t right at Celtic as we have too many players nowhere near an acceptable level and seem unable to score goals despite 20 plus shots a game

Lennon with this wild blast at players shows he hasn’t learned anything, he is the manager the blame is on him, especially this result - can’t believe Celtic played the Craig Levein formation.

27 Aug 2020 17:44:32
The damage is done. Now sadly a witch hunt will commence on who those players are, Lenny is not just content in knocking us out of the CL qualifying round but now they're will be a witch hunt on the players. Fans are only human and will scrutinise every player now in a way thank God there is no Supporters in the ground or I think we as a club would be at a high risk of emploding.

27 Aug 2020 18:28:41
Like to see us mix it up a little and go with McGregor, Soro, Turnbull in a middle 3. See what they can do together. All 3 put in a shift and link defence and attack well.

27 Aug 2020 18:36:27
Just Brown, dropping Brown might help Lennon, it will be like a catharsis, he will be able to play players in their best positions, rather than shuffling them about to accommodate their captain, such is Browns influence on the team, it is almost unthinkable to drop him, but I think it will benefit the team, especially players like Christie and McGregor.

27 Aug 2020 18:48:17
Jambo
How can you say Ntcham when the boy can't get a game because Lennon won't drop his wee pets?
Forrest, Brown and McGregor could go out on the pitch, sit down in the centre circle and have a tea party whilst we get beat 4-0 and Lennon would pick all 3 for the next game.
He Was the same the first time around and will never change.

27 Aug 2020 16:06:01
Shane Duffy now coming n yes or no if he wants to really join celtic it should not stop him.

27 Aug 2020 17:16:06
I've explained the impasse . he does t want a long term deal and cketic won't pay 3.5m to consolidate on 10iar.

27 Aug 2020 15:45:32
very dissapointed from last nights result but rather calm about it. need the players out the door who do not want to be there and another 1 or 2 brought in all pulling in same direction and kick on as europa league is our standard TBH. would rather have a seaon in europa league like last season and kick on in knock out stages than a BR season in the champions league were i could no longer watch after the 5th goal. no team in scotland will ever be champions league intill our league has major investment and sky has no intentions of doing that.

27 Aug 2020 16:38:14
I agree on the champions league. It's only really about the money now anyway. We are way off the required standard. We are getting beat every year by teams who are at the level of an Aberdeen. That's the biggest concern. I think we will be lucky to qualify for Europa. Hope the draw is kind to us. Nit a big fan of the Thursday nights but at least we have a chance to pick up some points.

27 Aug 2020 14:24:30
I can't remember how many celtic fans turn on there team and manager so quickly its a disgrace ok things didn't go our way but we had to play through a difficult period what if nitchams scored and won its so sevco like we have to weather the storm together and stop blaming this season is so special as history will be made Barcelona got humped it happens we have to keep going and look at the big picture 10 in a row the champions league needs a crowd for celtic and maybe this will sort out a few things but I wish these negative so called celtic fans would jump on the big green bus and ride to glory without beings so upset keep the faith we are the celtic and that's what makes us the best hail hail.

27 Aug 2020 14:49:30
🙏🏻 Well Said Rapalla88.The keyboard warriors need to **** off on their holidays until after we win the 10,

27 Aug 2020 14:52:07
Rapalla88. Neil Lennon said after the match that 4 players wanted to leave, if that is the truth then there is something seriously wrong behind the scenes and the fans have every right to speak out.
A lot of fans have forked out heavily for season tickets with no guarantee of even getting to a match so the very least they can expect is for the team to repay them by giving everything they have.
They also have every right to question a manager who has made the same mistakes over and over again, these mistakes are costing the club millions in lost revenue and means we continually have to sell players to compensate for these mistakes.
Fans have invested heavily in the club whilst not being able to go to any games, they shouldn't also be denied their opinions.

27 Aug 2020 14:54:01
This isn’t a ‘freak’ result or just a one off poor game. And being a fan doesn’t mean blindly accepting everything, it’s about wanting the best for the club you love. We were poorly prepared and we didn’t look as if we wanted to win.

27 Aug 2020 15:04:42
I have allowed a little time to process what went on last night. I believe most fans were coming over to becoming NL believers. Then last night happens.
The defination of supidity is to repeatedly doing the same thing and failing. It appeared NL had found the answer after xmas and played a new formation, two strikers with wide players providing the support and two holding midfielders.
He changed this formation only for the Copanhagen game and now this season
I have tried to think of a good reason to support NL but even SB cannot find a good word for him.
Yes the defence was poor but quoting NL we were after Julien for a Long time and only days ago he was praising El Hamed.
This is Celtic and other teams should fear us Martin O'neills teams would never have lost those goals and The **** would never have played without strikers.

27 Aug 2020 15:15:09
Do you honestly think its acceptable to play any team without a striker on the pitch? We crucified Levein when he did it, therefore the same must be said of Lennon.

Lennon also said the game was easier than he thought it would be. Aye so easy we lost.

27 Aug 2020 15:18:55
It’s about standards. If your standard isSPFL or spl and Europa that’s fine. Mines is SPFL and champions league nothing less.

60k week after week
Over 100m turnover 2yr ago
Paying a chairman between 1.2-3.2m a year in wages bonus
Selling players for 20+ million
Squads of over 32 first team players

You god damn better believe this keyboard warrior expects much better.

27 Aug 2020 15:28:06
If that means NL leaving then the fear is that John Kennedy will take over. Whether he's a realistic option I don't know but he's been groomed by PL to eventually take over. If that's now then time'll tell but it smacks once again of the PL Puppet Show.

27 Aug 2020 13:49:12
First time posting but enjoy reading.

We have been spoilt for a long time but the Sevies are improving, think big Pete has been resting on his laurels for to long. last night was a massive gamble that didn't pay off as well as the last two years.

Will we never learn, could be a long hard season but if we strengthen in right positions with the right player we will win 10. that's a big BUT.

27 Aug 2020 12:50:21
Today is the 20th Anniversary of ‘Demolition Derby’ when we hammered Rangers 6-2.
Since then Celtic have dominated Scottish football and loads of Celtic fans have only known success.
Our support have been spoiled in recent times and when Celtic have a bad result, some Celtic fans behave like spoilt brats.
My daughter recently turned 16 years old and I had a look at the Celtic results when I turned 16.
On the weekend of my 16th birthday Celtic lost 3-0 at home to St. Mirren.
I had a closer look at the results from that season and it showed, in our last 18 league games in the 1989/ 90 season, Celtic won only TWO league games out of 18.
I know I would’ve been at all 18 games because I never missed a game back then.
But I still went and supported Celtic Football Club no matter what.
The Celtic fans should get behind the manager and his players because there is still plenty of time to make history and make it a season to remember.

27 Aug 2020 13:20:19
I remember all those days as well Buzz, great post, hope the prawn sandwich, I know better brigade that we seem to have a lot of on here would take a look at a bit of history. We are Celtic, we pick ourselves up and start again.

27 Aug 2020 13:25:03
Your right mate but it just feels as if I’ve been to 10 funerals this morning.

27 Aug 2020 13:37:58
Buzz Bomb
100% agree Celtic fans have been spoiled recently but last night's managerial disaster is one the fans deserve to vent there disappointment.

27 Aug 2020 14:20:19
Get behind the manager Are you talking about the man that gets paid probably more in a week than most of us get paid in a year To play a one off game without a striker and think this is good. Then to blame the players for HIS incompetence is that the guy you are talking about? I will always support Celtic I have done for more than 50 years but you don't have to agree with everything that goes on in the club or back every one in it . We are going for history this year and at the head of our team we have a guy that looks like he has lost the dressing room with the statement he came out with and tactically inept as I said above Who would play a one off game with no striker and 2 on the bench? He is a Celtic man so just leave him alone back him even though a blind man can see he is not the man for the job. Because he is a Celtic man no sorry can't follow that logic.

27 Aug 2020 14:34:45
are you real who would you appoint as the new manager on these so brilliant managers who I interested because you seem to forget we won 9 in a row with Lenton and 13 points clear so if that's not enough who because maybe 50 years experience you should give it a go because we need to be behind the team not running it down win or lose that's football anything can happen.

27 Aug 2020 15:08:32
Tony

Best post of the day, but like you. I will support the team when game day comes around. and support the manager. but i currently don't rate him.

27 Aug 2020 15:25:26
Seriously do you really think that playing a one off game without a striker a team that is not Barcelona or PSG just a bog standard team is okay? Sevco pumped us last 2 games out played us easy last 2 games Winning against Cluj with only 10 minutes or so left to play what does the great tactician do? Yes replace a defender with a striker and we lose out of champions league But that's ok he is great he is a Celtic man just move on. Yes we were 13 points clear last season but it was Sevco that pressed the self distrust button they were ahead of us on points in December we didn't win those points off them they lost those points themselves we had nothing to do with that. Yes we won 9IAR not with just Lenny don't forget And if we are going to win 10IAR I personally don't think Lenny is the man for the job its a opinion page if you don't agree with my opinion that's fine.

27 Aug 2020 16:18:14
Tony, both of your posts are bang on.
I am personally sick of these fans that think we need to support Lennon because he is a Celtic man and it doesn't matter about the results.

28 Aug 2020 12:56:40
Once the hysteria has died down we all know we're not a Champions League team and the Europa League is our level. The money men will be busy behind the scenes as I expect 2 or 3 players leaving after listening to Lennons interview. Probably Ajer Ntcham Rojic. Hopefully Edouard stays but as I said the money men will be beavering away to line the boards pockets during these uncertain times. Keep the Faith🍀.

27 Aug 2020 12:32:36
So question for the Lenny is the best manager in the world only one game we have been bad in question is this IF we get pumped against Sevco like we have done in the last 2 games against them not just the score but the play also do you still think Lenny Levine is the man for the job?

27 Aug 2020 11:32:46
Like everyone else I am deeply disappointed that we didn't go through last night. Unfortunately (or perhhaps fortuately) I didn't see the game last night due to other commitments so I can't comment on it. So whilst I am disappointed at losing I am also saddened by the fact that we are behaving like Sevconians on here baying for blood and the managers head because we lost a game we should have won. After years of laughing at them and all the banter years they have had a banter night and it hurt to read their comments and laughter. I realized that if it hurt me just one night of banter how much it must hurt them 9 years of it. We lost, let's dust ourselves down, realize that we are not invincible and be more careful in the future. I don't think we were ever going to win the Champions anyway so let's just go and win the TEN. We are Celtic.

27 Aug 2020 12:15:08
Cheered me up

For me its not about winning per se
Its about PROGRESSING not REGRESSING

if we can progress ( even slightly) and win more often than not AND put in performances that leave no doubt that we are committed and bought in to a philosophy ( with a plan B) then I'll be happy

At the moment winning is clearly important, but I'm more interested in the holistic performance.

27 Aug 2020 12:16:14
The recent failures in Champions League qualifiers needs to be addressed though. Shaking it off every year just allows those managing the club to get away with it will still pocketing the supporters hard earned cash.

27 Aug 2020 12:19:06
Lennon loves the club, no doubt about it, he wants to do well, but he definitely isn't back by the board and is the scale goat, he should of played a striker last night, should of probably played AJER CDM instead of Brown, but we don't know what players want to stay and what ones want to leave, what players aren't good enough that keep being bought, but the board are marketing success straight to their back pockets without a care for the fans as the past 2 seasons the team haven't been bolstered the way we should have. I bet our top earners get paid way more than players in say the championship so we could afford them but our tight board won't pay as they want the cash themselves, sock of it and it needs changed before the glory days are over. These young players at the club like dembele must look at what's going on and think might as well go elsewhere and get better chance of playing, which is totally wrong they should be playing.

27 Aug 2020 12:37:04
Lubomir bang on we need to be better each year as a fan that’s what we want to see. Lennon has to go pure and simple he’s been getting away with it for too long. Never mind the Celtic man pish we need someone who is respected as a coach by the players to get the best out of them. Last night has to e the worst I’ve seen in a long time it was like we were set up in an away tie in Kazakhstan not home at parkhead pure embarrassment.

27 Aug 2020 14:05:21
Completely.

27 Aug 2020 10:41:58
so everyone that had a pop at lennon and his team selection and tactics were right, His arrogance to go with no strikers when there is 8.5 million pounds worth on the bench is the actions of someone who is incompetent, There is no excuses then he throws the players under the bus after accepting responsibly, shameful Lennon should be showen the door.

27 Aug 2020 11:07:14
There was a third striker on the bench - 18 year old Cameron Harper. He was fit and cometh the hour, cometh the man. David Marshall was 19 years old when he faced Barcelona on his first team debut, so what was to stop Lennon putting Harper on say for the last 20 mins or so if the other two on the bench were either not up to it or not match fit?

27 Aug 2020 11:14:28
daviebhoy67. If so many players seemingly want away then that is down to Lennon.
Part of his job is to create a good team spirit where the players are totally committed, if so many players are unhappy then he should ask questions of himself.
Lennon knew when he took the job the conditions he would have to work under, after all he has been here before.
Looking from the outside he seems to have his favourites and this is causing bad feeling, he needs to treat everybody equally and show them all that if they work hard and play well they will get their chance.

27 Aug 2020 11:54:38
Maybe time for a new defensive coach on board, its at the back we are failing miserably, fair enough we aren't converting chances but that's a confidence thing, and when your in the right head space goals come, however defensive frailties are crippling us. Lennon can't have a say in which players arrive at the club, there is no way he had heard of klimala soro bayo etc they just come in from the sporting director surely, dykes would have been better option in my eyes or a player like him, wish LG would get his finger out.

27 Aug 2020 12:17:03
Doesn't say much for Lennon if all these players want to leave
Players like Dembele, Shved, Soro and Klimala aren't being given a chance
Just left on the bench to rot while others can play poor every week knowing they won't be dropped.

27 Aug 2020 12:43:23
Losing games happens, we come back from it. Losing dressing rooms is a harder thing to come back on. Should have taken full responsibility for team and tactics, and saying players want to leave in public will only add to unrest and discontent. Who do we feel are the players he is talking about. My worry is players on the brink of going down in history want to leave! Which points to the behind the scenes situation being grim.

27 Aug 2020 13:19:04
Although Klimala is raw he still should've started. I can understand Ajeti as he's not had a pre season and not fully fit and still looks to be carrying a bit of timber still. No reason why Klimala could'nt have played 70 mins and subbed for Ajeti far too many chances passed by in the box where we was missing a strikers instinct to tap them in.

27 Aug 2020 10:27:08
Whoever it is at the club making these signings (Klimala Soro, shved etc) has to leave. We need to ditch this Brentford model and stop trying to find the next bargain wanyama, big van and Start signing players that fit the current managers style of play. I'd much rather we Gambled on a 5-10M u21 french player for example. These players Will Also make us profit if they come good. Every signing is a gamble but I'd much rather be gambling on better quality.

We have over 32 first team players again! 3-4 are youngsters, couple on loan. Far to big a squad and waste of cash!

Never forget Lawwell was the second highest paid CE in the uk 2yrs ago! Let that sink in, above Spurs, Liverpool, man c, Arsenal, chelsea CE.

A UEFA cup run and getting 10 and it'll all be forgotten probably.

27 Aug 2020 11:07:47
how can you say soro he is not even started a game so how can you tell what type of player he is. you one of these ones wanting 10 mill spent on every player we play in the scottish league look were that got the sevies abit of succes then liquadation. soro has brown and mcgregor infront of him wich will be hard for him to move out the squad. people can say what they like about brown but he brings a lot to the team a lot we will not see on and of the feild. we had a poor game we move on its a dissapointment. were europa league standard because of the scraps sky feed us. neymar cost more than our 5 year sky deal says it all.

27 Aug 2020 11:19:35
Because I don’t believe those signings I mentioned are the last or current managers signings. None of them have got near the first team. You happy to keep signing these players who aren’t ready? Brown hasn’t been on top of his game lately and signing we make aren’t ready to step in, brilliant policy 👍🏻

And aye I’d rather gamble with a 5-10m big nation u21 (like eddy) than these unknowns. All them together can’t be far off 10-15m wasted. We’ve made far more money than we’ve spent in the last few years.

27 Aug 2020 12:22:01
Brown should have been phased out of the starting 11 by now. His replacement should have been signed (McGinn) and settled into the team over a season or so. Instead we have no natural successor. Everyone has a right to believe Soro isn't the answer. The fact that he's had zero game time since signing points to the fact it's more money wasted. Just another Bayo, Compper etc. Couldn't blame anyone for thinking that.

27 Aug 2020 12:39:29
you use eddy as an example. he was an unknown to and did you know eddy was wanting out to start with at celtic as he was not getting game time and then when he got it he took his chance and look now what chance has soro had tell me.

27 Aug 2020 13:39:05
He was a french u21 Or u19 if I remember correctly. He was PSG’s youth top scorer too. Better quality than some unknown from Israel or the likes. Every signing is a gamble but it’s less of a gamble when you re looking at these types of players, quality. It’s just my opinion mind.

And to say we can’t afford that quality is nonsense.

You seem happy signing players who aren’t ready to replace first team members who have dipped in form, injuries etc. Smaller clubs manage to make the champions league. Young boys and red star last year. And Switzerland get less tv money than Scotland!

27 Aug 2020 13:40:20
Eddy was wanting out? We loaned him for a year then he became first pick second year. What you talking about?

27 Aug 2020 15:35:35
ryan no one had herd of eddy the same as they had no herd of soro. eddy was starting to regret joining us on loan after BR was not giving him game time then he decided to be pateint and wait for his chance and he did and took it and look now so maybe you should be patient and wait till soro gets his chance and see how he gets on before classing him as a dud mate.

27 Aug 2020 10:18:08
I am disappointed we r out of CL but l want to concentrate on only 1 thing the 10iar that’s the prize we can try again next year for CL we r starting behind Rangers in the league they will have games in Europe too but we have to have a better squad that can handle everything thrown at them this season so this is were buying quality is essential.

27 Aug 2020 12:24:08
Losing Edouard would be a big blow to our chances of 10. Failing in the qualifiers mean is his the likely candidate to go.

27 Aug 2020 09:18:59
Still don't feel any better this morning and whether you blame Lennon, the players or Lawell; it all boils down to the same thing - we are not as ambitious, focused and professional on the football side as we seem to be in the property and business side.

Hotels, Walk-ways, Laser-displays and all the money in the bank means very little to The lifeblood of the club - The Support - while we repeatedly fail at the first real hurdle every single feckin time.
It's not just older fans like myself that see the decline and drop in standards, it has been happening for over a decade.

Granted, qualification is difficult at this time of the season - maybe more-so in the current situation - but we consistently fail to prepare and prioritise these games by not filling the problem positions again and again and even more damaging is the manager and players never learn from their mistakes.

Every year a player is sold for big bucks and I am certain the Board gear more towards that, rather than try to assemble a better team.
It's become a habit, as apparently, there's a queue forming at the exit door wanting to leave, at a time when you want your players to pull in the same direction with the same passion as the support in such an important and relevant season.

I know we have had some hammerings in the CL in recent years, but now we are losing home games every year to teams we should be beating where Celtic Park was once a Fortress.
There was no excuse for losing a one-off HOME tie against a team, our manager said were 'easier than he thought', that has continued a vicious circle of failure and blame that will thrive as long as we tolerate mediocrity on the pitch, while admiring the multi-million pound architecture and accessories.

27 Aug 2020 10:08:15
Bang on Celtic_mad. We're not as good or feared as we think we are and that gets delivered to both Lawwell's and Lennon's door. The team generates the income and allows for the fripperies such as the Celtic Way, hotels and museums. Without the team and the magnificent support there is nothing. There needs to be a clear-out and there needs to be players brought in who understand the mentality of playing for the jersey.

27 Aug 2020 10:08:34
Good post Celtic mad 👏🏻👍🏼.

27 Aug 2020 09:07:23
My friends Enrico has a sore head and heart this morning.

Very disappointed after going out last night. But he feels that while we should be good enough to beat the opposition the club at this moment in time at best are a europa league side!

Last season the bhoys crashed out of europa league and even sevco went further in it.

It is importante that we focus on 10 this season and that is not an excuse for last nights show.

What is problem with klimala? Enrico thinks he should have been up top last night in Frenchman eddys absence. Take nothing away from young Christie but a striker should be playing. Klimala must be fit he has had pre season he must have been ready to go.

27 Aug 2020 08:37:14
Celtic will go down the ‘champions path’ to try and qualify for the Europa league.
Celtic go into Tuesday’s draw because we will now enter at Europa qualifying round 3.
At this stage of the ‘champions path’ a couple of clubs out of 10 clubs will get a bye to the Europa play offs.
If Celtic are drawn out to play in round 3,we will be seeded in a one off game.
Coefficient points don’t count in the ‘champions path’ playoff stage.
Due to Celtic losing last night we will now be unseeded for the playoff round.
Celtic will now be drawn against a seeded club who gets knocked out of the CL in qualifying round 3.
The playoff in the Europa is also a one off game.

27 Aug 2020 08:19:00
after cluj last season i says keep calm we will have a good season and wee did and i say the same again.

im dissapointed to go out but maybe europa league its just scottish footballs level come on sky give us 160 for 5 seasons and that's to be split between the whole country and wee need to qualify from 4 rounds wile winning our league wile the so called big big leagues ye can finish 3rd and claim a automatic spot and the cash intill this country has major investment in our league we will never be champions league matrial or compete in it and have a run in it.

lenny says players want out well let them go and sign new players no point in keeping people who want out i think ntcham is one of them i think ajear maybe one wich is why he was dropped for a few games and i think eddy may want out now there's no champions league or his contract would have been signed wee could pull in over 50 mill for these 3 so take the cash and invest it and get every one who wants to be here pulling in right direction go back to 352 and we will blow that league away and that mob to and have a good run in eruopa the league and a good run in eruopa is what will be a good season for lenny after tonight.

its clear he dis not fancy klimala. last nights game was calling for wee griff missed him badly wee created a lot of chances. anyway im loveing that mobs gloating once again as the end of season result is what matters and i know 10 will be a cert once we get going i think one or two is causeing a bit of unrest with wanting to leave wich is way they have to go. c'mon lads here we go 10 in a row. europe comes and goes every season we have our ups and downs and some brilliant nights at paradise europa is our lever just now even with a manager like BR wee took some thumpings in champions league.

27 Aug 2020 08:49:18
Personally id play our under 20s in the europa qualifiers the league is more important this season and then when we win the 10 hopefully lennon and lawell both leave.

27 Aug 2020 09:01:10
Brilliant post United Ireland. I totally agree with you.
We are a Europa level team at best and I for one just want us to get up to speed and get this League won in style.

27 Aug 2020 09:30:20
Great Post United, couldn’t have put it better myself.
We still can win the SFA cup and create another History making treble
We Will win the League and create immortals and make never to be taken away history.
We can still compete at our level, which is Europa League, we made group history there last season.
Lenny is the manager who will take us there.

27 Aug 2020 10:12:27
thats it macca just need up to speed and the players out who do not want to be there and other players signed and to get going and every one pulling in right direction. i beileve some players think there to good for us now and want a piece of down south wich is fair enough let them leave and cash in. i think last night was a night for griff he would have found the net. but were out its happend let's move on. europe comes and goes every season.

27 Aug 2020 06:55:53
Who are the players the manager says are not committed and want away? I'd say, Jullien, Ajer, ntcham.

27 Aug 2020 07:58:41
Whoever they are they can go. No point in keeping unhappy players regardless of who they are. Interestingly enough you’ve now got a report of brown ( club captain) saying he has no knowledge of players wanting out etc, you’d think if there was unrest he’d surely know about it working closely with them day in day out. Lennons came out saying this has been ongoing the past 6 months. Despite that though the bottom line is since lennon took over results in champions league qualifiers especially against teams I’m all sure we agree are beatable have been totally unacceptable and I nearly spat my beer oot last night when the commentator on the game says “ Celtic will learn from this”. clearly he hasn’t watched us try qualify the past 3 years 😡😡.

27 Aug 2020 08:29:23
I think Lenny's just looking to divert the blame away from him. Im sure you'd all agree that there wasn't a player on the pitch who looked disinterested. The issue is, you can have the best team in the world but if your tactics are wrong then you are f*cked.

27 Aug 2020 15:12:19
Good posted rob hh.

27 Aug 2020 00:57:34
Anyone who think a club of our size shouldn't have to play so many qualifiers should think again. Our level is now the Europa but I wouldn't even be confident qualifying for that the way we have started this season.

NL's tactics, selection, substitutions and game management are severly lacking. Only silver linings is Gerrard is exactly the same. Though if I was a Sevco fan I'd fancy my chances this season.

Starting to think the rumour Lubo posted about discontent in the dressing room is true. How can a side thst looked so dominant at the end of last season suddenly look so poor? Guaranteed Edouard leaves now. Who could blame him?

27 Aug 2020 08:43:08
Why would you not believe me? Why would I make this up? The source is solid and I dnnt make things up . in terms of our captain contradicting NL . that is hardly a surprise. they contradict themselves every week if you listen ( really listen) .

Managing celtic is not easy
Every team needs a philosophy and the best ones are targeting a style and a way of playing. Celtic's press last might 1st half was all wrong and that is about intelligence and a ONE team approach

Let me explain a few things

Ajer wants away
His pal christie wants away ( you think christie didn't advise his dad to run the " come and get me interview"?
Julian's nerves are shredded and he wants away to easier climes
Brown is aware of the surge in negativity towards him and it will bother him. he wants to lay but knows he is limited
NL knows brown's influence and brown has the respect of many 1st team players ( not all ) and so NL is in a bind with that
Ntcham plays to drive his value. when he plays it's not because he wants to stay ( hed be back to france in a heartbeat) he plays to GET HIS MOVE
Forrest has signed a new contract. his inconsistency is the reason he never got his move away plus he never wanted to go anywhere as he is very comfy at Celtic. big wages and a comfy number where he only needs to go at 70%.
Forrest can turn it on when he can be bothered and when its not clicking he can work in lieu of the tricks coming off . but he doesn't and so when he is off it . he is off it and GETS AWAY with a being lazy ( driving useless stats to overstate his effort )
Calmac is an enigma. loved by many many fans ( rightly so ) but can also blow hot and cold and would move but the reality is that he isn't going to change a team.

Moi is very inconsistent and doesn't like the rough and tumble. in a 3 5 2 set up . a real problem to play him

Eddy could become an issue . he is the GREAT HOPE . if he is happy here we have a chance of a turnaround as we need an anchor point . someone we can look too .

It womt be brown or julien or Ajer. it needs to be eddy

We need at least 2 to 3 starter signings

Duffy
Turnbull
And possibly another to push taylor or even forrest

This is a team that needs to rally and find the strength to come together and move forward as a team


When so many players want a different reality ( a move) they play like they want a move and that can mean being selfish or indeed being half hearted.

A new manager could resolve this but it would need to be high profile . and I can't think of any .

Maybe Eddie Howe

Thus, it'll be the cheque book if NL stays because NL Kennedy and Strachan won't be able to drive the turnaround in attitude and discipline and togetherness

A manager told me about the alleged discontent incidentally.

27 Aug 2020 09:20:30
Who told u then Lubo? You are quite assured with this info n happy to share all of that n whilst i agree with certain points funnily enough i would like to know the name of your source.

27 Aug 2020 11:10:18
Why would I give you my source. its a direct family member who is a manager in Scotland and the way the pals network works, a lot of information flows.

See when I report something that's wrong, I will apologise .

I get decent information. nothing more nothing less

I WANT us to succeed. and so does the source.

PL couldn't handle BRs ego
BR thought PL ego and influence was out of control

Our remedy? The ex hibernian manager that nobody wanted. Nkt exactly a hard sell. NL wants to be successful but he is only as good as the skills that he has . his limitations are now being laid bear

I'll say it again. His limitations are being laid besr. I also think that CFC winning the league this year won't be about us winning the sevco head to heads . we are too disinterested. and weak for that particular battle . sevco rightly fancy their chances

Our best bet is consistency beyond sevco and eddy staying ( a motivated eddy ) .

We will be hunted this season. Even SPFL teams don't fewr us and when that happens you need to find a way to slap them down

Theres a about the unbeatable NY Yankees. They believe me they were unbeatable and loved being beyond reach. But then they stopped working and felt all they had to do to win was turn up and participate. Rivals saw weakness and dodnt " see the yankee stripes" when they faced them and beat them badly. Others made the mistake of seeing the yankee stripes and freezing.

The point is that when players believe the hype and stop playing as 1 cohesive unit we invite problems

This could be a problem laiden season

We need to get back to brilliant basics

Poor throw ins
Poor set pieces
Lack of fight and desire in the tackle
Poor in the air
Soft centred
Non purposeful possession
Profligacy in front of goal
Cutting inside and passing ( easier and equates to not taking responsibility) as opposed to making something happen

ALL of this will be our undoing

Brilliant basics and commitment to a cause will be the remedy BUT will arrogance and indifference and ego get in the way

Hail hail.

26 Aug 2020 23:58:03
I still stand by Neil Lennon 100% after tonight.
With the players he had available, I believe he picked the correct team.
Klimala isn't good enough and shouldn't be anywhere near the team.
Ajeti also proved when he came on he isn't match fit. Some might say Lennon should have brought him on earlier. But if it went to extra time, I don't think Ajeti had an hour in him.
The 10 players behind Christie where all in their natural positions and although Christie wasn't, he played there last season when Edouard was out injured.
My biggest criticism is why we're bringing in players who aren't ready to hit the ground running.
Lennon clearly doesn't trust Klimala and he should send him out on loan. We never played 2 up front away to Kilmarnock because he didn't trust him and then again tonight.
I'm not criticising Lennon for that because Klimala isn't good enough.
I said at the time when Celtic paid £5.5 million for Klimala and Soro it was a waste of money. Neither of those players will ever start 3 games in a row for Celtic.
If Lennon wanted those players and the other players who are coming to the club clearly unfit, then I will stand corrected and say it is Lennon's fault.
But I believe the squad Lennon had at his disposal tonight, I don't think he did much wrong.
I know I will be in the minority again and the fans who didn't want him in the first place, will be calling for him to be sacked.
It's been a poor start to the season with what has happened in the league and Europe but Lennon is still the man for the job.

27 Aug 2020 00:51:15
With Klimala or Soro either way it's NL's fault. He either wanted 2 players that are not good enough or he is too weak willed to stand up to PL and say I don't want them. For the record I don't want him sacked but tonight's abysmal result lies with NL.

27 Aug 2020 01:29:06
The problem is when players like Soro, Klimala, Bayo, Shved, Hendry, Eboue, Bolingoli, or even Ajeti and Barkas - and all the others down the years - come in; how much consultation does the manager have in the process? Because it makes him look foolish.
Clearly in recent years we have brought in some amount of garbage that are not up to what we would call 'Celtic Class'.
For every, Dembele, Eddy and Sinclair, there are 2-3 flops and indeed I am hard pushed to name a signing since NL took over that has inspired me and at that rate our decline is pretty ominous.
I understand that, at Big Clubs the manager/ head coach has little to do with recruitment and departures, but there surely must be some communication as to what is required urgently and when.
Tonight, we had no fit (or capable) centre forwards out of FOUR possibles and that is damnable/ shameful for any Celtic team.
Every year we approach these games unprepared/ undermanned and it certainly seems to be a convenient way for PL to sell an asset. ; with the season book money safely deposited and the support deflated and furious; with only memories of European glory nights.
I know the players let us down big-time, but there doesn't seem to be any motivation, inspiration or solutions from the dug-out, when things clearly needed big decisions and bolder actions.
Plus when you come out after a defeat and say 'Some players don't want to be here; and 'They were a lot easier than I expected'; it adds insult to injured pride and faith in the future?
Anyway that's hauf wan in the AM. Cheers Celts for the insomnia.

27 Aug 2020 05:03:36
M8, it’s all about opinions but at the end of the day u mention soro and klimala, Lennon signed them it’s as simple as that. Ajeti I can get not being match fit but klimala? What’s the excuse there? He’s been here 8/ 9 months, scored goals in pre season and again against hamilton on the first game of the season. Now I’m no for a second saying klimala is the answer when edouards no Fitbit why sign the guy if he can’t be trusted or if he’s no good enough? Surely that lies with Lennon?

27 Aug 2020 05:24:36
I didn't want Lennon in the first place Leon, but I agree with your post. I thought we set up fine and created 27 shots. Like other games this season though we're not converting them. We just got kippered. Taylor forgetting he's a left back for the first and Elhamed getting done for the 2nd.

27 Aug 2020 08:30:35
simple the manager is not the man for the job. he is either not savy enough or just doing as he's told and either way he is losing any respect players or fans have for him, the players we have brought in are simply not as good as they think or as our scouts think, some don't fancy the life up here in scotland and the lack of atmosphere caused by lack of fans is leaving them flat and they don't seem able to raise any kind of enthusiastic performance, four strikers and not one deemed able to play for various reasons and is eddy really injured or just wanting away.

28 Aug 2020 12:53:40
The guy should never been appointed in the first place, he's tactically out of his depth, and the board know it, but he was the cheap yes man option.