Celtic Banter Archive August 27 2015

 

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27 Aug 2015 22:52:51
Im beginning to think its going to take another team to win SPL, to finally get shot of DD, PL and JP

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27 Aug 2015 22:43:31
Europa League group stage seedings

Pot one

Schalke 04
Borussia Dortmund
FC Basel
Napoli
Tottenham Hotspur
Ajax
Villarreal
Rubin Kazan
Athletic Bilbao
Sporting CP
Marseille
Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk

Pot two

Sporting Braga
Fiorentina
Lazio
Anderlecht
Liverpool
AZ Alkmaar
Viktoria Plzen
Club Brugge
PAOK Thessaloniki
CELTIC
Besiktas
APOEL Nicosia

Pot three

Monaco
Sparta Prague
Fenerbahce
Legia Warsaw
Bordeaux
Lokomotiv Moscow
Lech Poznan
Saint Etienne
Slovan Liberec
FC Augsburg
Rapid Vienna
FK Krasnodar

Pot four

Partizan Belgrade
Asteras Tripoli
Belenenses OR SCR Altach
Molde
Rosenborg
Qarabag
Groningen
FC Midtjylland
Dinamo Minsk
Sion
Skenderbeu
Qabala

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27 Aug 2015 23:23:13
Got a feeling might get quarabag from pot 4 fernabache from 3 and one of the German sides from pot 1 there is a few good teams in there

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27 Aug 2015 23:45:37
yes and whose interested,more embarrassment I feel.

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28 Aug 2015 00:40:31
Glamour draw would be. Dortmund, Monaco and Rosenborg.

Teams that have formed a dislike to us over recent years could be. Ajax, Legia Warsaw and Quarabag/Sion.

Easiest draw which we would possibly have the best chance of progression to the knock out rounds would be. Rubin Kazan, Slovan Liberic and Skenderbeu.

Would take the glamour tie though, would love a trip to Dortmund even though I'd fear a doing but their stadium and support/atmosphere is special and I'm sure they'd appreciate our own. I know we didn't fill out our whole stadium for EL Group matches last season but think Dortmund would be a sell out, also to see players like Reus, Aubameyang, Hummels, Gundogan and Kagawa grace Paradise would be pretty special, they'll be a CL team again next season and it's always great to see such good players play at Celtic Park.

That glamour group is a bit of a belter if it were to happen.

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{Ed007's Note - I said earlier on I would like to get Dortmund, Legia Warsaw and Sion. If we can't sell out playing Dortmund in any competitive match we need to really start worrying about where we are, I think most people would see Dortmund as a CL quality team. Drawing Legia Warsaw and Sion would hopefully catch the supports imagination with a chance to settle some old scores on the pitch.}

28 Aug 2015 00:41:10
It might be better to play against teams we can compete with rather than the better standard of the Champions League .

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28 Aug 2015 05:16:26
Dortmund are scoring for fun at the minute but we are bound to get them as they're probably the best team in it. I would rather Ajax over Rubin Kazan as Russia is a mission. Dortmund/Celtic will be a test of whose fans are the best in the world

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27 Aug 2015 22:41:55
Ed I never said I wouldn't go but perhaps wouldn't have purchased as many tickets I will still be there every week as always but my point is not only me but many fans have been let down by the club after spending a lot of hard earned cash at no point have I said I would not be there if you had read it properly.

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{Ed007's Note - You spent the money on a season ticket, you'll get access to every home game and the chance to buy cup tickets, you're guaranteed at least another 3 home European ties that you can purchase tickets for, so what else did you want for your season ticket money?
Why does it matter what other fans feel, do you not feel strong enough to say that it's how you feel without dragging anonymous people into it in some feeble attempt to give your post credibility, tell all the people that you've spoke to and feel the same way to post in, otherwise I couldn't give a to$$ what they say.}

27 Aug 2015 22:26:34
Maybe next year Celtic fans should adopt the boards business model and not part with any cash until they know for sure what or who they will be watching. And before the usual apologists come up with the crap, this will only hurt the club, in case you haven,t noticed, this club is already hurting.
The rate at which we are going backwards is actually gathering pace and this was apparent even before Tuesday. The way our club is being run, is like someone saving for old age and dying before they get there. If we can,t put a successful attractive football team on the park, then the whole thing has become a pointless exercise.

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27 Aug 2015 23:17:36
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27 Aug 2015 22:00:37
Seen a lot of people suggesting who should be shipped out and I agree with a lot of the names mentioned, Gordon, Mulgrew, Forrest, Commons, Stokes, Borregtier, Scepovic to name a few but who would really want to sign them considering how poor they have been for us. It will be as hard to move these guys on as it will be to get replacements, and where do we even start there?? The prospect of playing for Celtic seems to get less attractive to players every year, mainly due to finances admittedly. For me the signing policy needs to be ammended. The idea of buying potential and developing them to sell on for a profit is the right idea but that should not be the case with every signing we make. I think we need 4 or 5 older heads with proper experience, even if they are on bigger wages up to say ยฃ40k per week, every year I see bosmans that I think could do a job for us. Not guys hitting 35/36 looking for a final payday but someone like Rosenberg was probably not a target due to his age but his experience the other night in the centre forward role was everything we didn't have and very much needed.

I'm not one of these football manager fantasists who can rhyme of a full new starting 11. Does anyone have any ideas on any realistic targets? The only player in the Premiership I would take is Johnny Hayes as a replacement for Forrest, other than that for me no one else is anywhere near the standard we should be aiming for. The boy Barker that ed mentioned sounds promising but I've never seen him play.

Ideas/thoughts?

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27 Aug 2015 22:57:34
CW agree with the outs with the exception of Gordon. I know Ed does not like him but he was not at fault for either of the goals the other night and has consistently been our best defensive player since he joined, admittedly with a couple of high profile gaffs
I would add Ambrose and Van Dyke to your list.
I agree 100% with your amendment to signing policy. we do need a couple of older, more experienced heads around the place. the model of moravcek, sutton, hartson come to mind
Rosenberg good example and the guy who played striker for Brugges last night was a good looking experienced guy.Hayes I agree with. would help us and hurt Aberdeen at the same time

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27 Aug 2015 22:57:43
The biggest problem is that too many posters are reacting to one desperate bad result . Before Tuesday most of us would have been happy with a goal scoring striker a good commanding centre back and a left back to keep Izzy on his toes .
One desperate bad result shouldn't mean that we need a whole new team . Certainly we need many of our players to play at their best . That didn't happen on Tuesday .

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27 Aug 2015 23:24:23
I will throw a name out there Mihai Roman young target man 6ft 3'' looks affordable and a decent player

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27 Aug 2015 23:35:12
Gordon was definitely at fault for both goals he's an excellent shot stopper but as far as a cross into box he is hopless

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27 Aug 2015 23:51:49
Old Bhoy
Agree there is some over reaction
However, moving out Mulgrew ( too slow ), Forrest ( constant under achiever AND injury prone, Commons ( past it ) Stokes ( not good enough ) Dirk ( over rated and always injured and even when not is never picked ) and Scepovic who never gets a game will drive some transfer fees and free up wage budget.
Problem is only a few days to make it happen so will not happen

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27 Aug 2015 23:56:51
I don't get the hype with Gordon and think he makes a lot of basic errors that are often overlooked by fans and the press when reporting on games, he is not the worst keeper I have ever seen in a Celtic jersey but for me he has cost us big time over the last year or so and we should look to strengthen in that area.
My post isn't so much on the back of Tuesday I just feel we have implemented a business model over the last 3 or 4 years of buying potential to sell on for profit but it seems every player we sign has to fit that model. I don't think it does and the loss of ยฃ40M or so in 2 seasons from missing out on CL football suggests a tweak here or there might be worth it, the wage cap for instance is holding us back in terms of signing targets and not signing players who have little or no resale value is a bit naive but that's just my opinion. I think we have a really good young manager with some really good players, Brown, GMS, Lustig, Armstrong, Biton, and for now VVD. 3 or 4 quality signings and in my opinion we could do well in Europe.

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{Ed007's Note - I've said since Gordon signed he wasn't good enough to be CFC's No.1 and nothing that has happened to change my mind, he's let us down in every big game he's played. I don't even think he is a good shot stopper any more, since he joined us he just parries the ball back into the danger area, a good shot stopper doesn't do that, they'll knock the ball away from danger, not help create more.}

28 Aug 2015 00:52:51
Have to agree with that Ed on the point about parrying the ball back out into the danger area, the most obvious flaw in his goal keeping and then he's having to make an even better save than the first to prevent a goal when all he had to do was palm it out wide for a corner(Although corners these days are like giving penalties away for us atm).

Surely Stevie Woods should be sorting this out? He improved Forster immensely. Gordon is also is not commanding enough in the box at corners, could have easily came to try and punch both corners away we conceded in Malmo as both were delivered into the 6 yard box, should be going through players for the ball keepers are always given extra protection by the refs these days.

He isn't a terrible keeper but nowhere near Boruc and Forster heights. Still though I feel there is far worse outfield players we need to get shot of first before even rethinking the GK position.

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{Ed007's Note - I thought I was the only one who was seeing it with Gordon, it was like hitting my head against a brick wall at times.}

28 Aug 2015 05:27:07
I guess you didn't like Gordons double save in Malmo Ed? I did laugh at that as you always say that's his biggest weakness

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{Ed007's Note - Is that the Malmo game we lost 2-0?}

28 Aug 2015 21:03:46
Aye. All the heroics from his mistakes mean nothing when he can't command his area and clear 2 simple corners

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{Ed007's Note - Exactly, his overall positioning when he needs to think about anything is diabolical. He has let us down in so many big games it's hard to understand why more people don't see it.}

27 Aug 2015 20:55:34
I know Ed that you may have explained this before ,but can you explain why Celtic as Champions of Scotland had to play 3 qualifiers whilst the likes of Manchester United who didn't win their league only play 1 . CHAmPIONS league surely should mean champions of each country go into the first round proper and let the other runner - ups play qualifying rounds . I'm pre forecasting your answer . TV ,money. HH

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{Ed007's Note - You're right about it all being about making the rich clubs richer but it goes with the countries coefficient, the better a country, NOT the particular team, performs in Europe the more coefficient points they amass and that moves them up the ratings.}

27 Aug 2015 22:55:18
Thanks Ed .

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{Ed007's Note - (yes)

27 Aug 2015 22:50:52
Ed see the malmo game weren't we the seeded team if this was case why are we not playing second leg at home

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{Ed007's Note - Wasn't it because we were drawn first?? I'll check in the morning mate so remind me and I'll get you an answer. I'm sitting in bed using my tablet* to edit just now.

*Just look at the quality of this typing using a tablet, I'm wasted doing this! And Tom Cruise still gets the MI jobs |-)

28 Aug 2015 00:46:37
We have no idea if it was Gordon's job to come for the corners . It may have been his or it may have been big Virgil . Big Virgil shouldn't have let the ball go past him if it isn't the role of a big centre half to clear theses crosses then don't need a big Centre half

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{Ed007's Note - If it wasn't his job then why did he do it? He either followed orders, came for the ball and messed up again or didn't follow RD's orders. You'd think an experienced professional would choose one or the other, either way he failed and cost us...again.}

27 Aug 2015 21:50:26
Is anyone else seriously worried that we are going to be left with only ciftci and Griffiths.ciftci is one of the most disappointing signings I can ever remember. Yes its early but he has shown nothing and having watched him last season I think we have totally wasted 1.5 million. Griffiths will get goals but we do need another more than I can remember for a long time.

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27 Aug 2015 22:12:01
There's strikers out there who'd do a great job such as Beric from Rapid Vienna (scored about 25 league goals last season) or Soriano (unreal goals/games ratio and funnily enough scored tonight on his return from injury). Guys like this would probably cost ยฃ2-3 million and would pay for themselves with their goals return.

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27 Aug 2015 22:19:37
Scepovic has been extremely disappointing so far. but I would rather see him get a run of games. I think if he was a regular in the team he would produce goals (along with a few misses I am sure). Far from the finished article but I would rather put my faith in him than Nadir Ciftci.

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27 Aug 2015 22:28:26
I tell you what is scarier than that cm!

They have sent Fisher out on loan, no way is Lustig going through a season injury free IMO , no much cover at LB and Lustig is going to replace VVD @ CH to try and keep his injuries down! Janko can play maybe wing back but is no RB IMO

But heh ho all is cool because we have Mulgrew & Efe as a back up plan :-0

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27 Aug 2015 22:58:14
Seems that a lot of fans admired the job Rosenberg did on Tuesday, using all his experience to help his team through.

Can't help but think big Samaras' experience would have helped us on Tuesday night. Big man would've provided a target man or an out ball if he was playing up front or even wide left.

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27 Aug 2015 20:32:32
See Morten Rasmussen is running riot against Southampton, except he now appears to just be called Duncan! This just made me laugh.

Are there any other Celtic flops who have gone elsewhere and turned out alright?

'Duncan' may still be rubbish, but he seems to be playing well here.

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27 Aug 2015 21:46:50
Why don't we start with Berget! He is the one playing in the CL instead of any of our bhoys! Pukkie is doing ok and is playing every week yet could not get a game with us.

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27 Aug 2015 21:52:27
Daryl Murphy springs to mind. What a job he is doing at Ipswich now. Wish we had held onto the big fella. At least we have Nadir Ciftci, praise the Lord!

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27 Aug 2015 22:11:21
Tony Watt too Richard, Ronny did an hour long presentation about how he takes young players and players with poor attitudes and improves. Other than wee Tony!

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{Ed007's Note - RD told Tony Watt and his agent that as far as he was concerned everyone started with a clean slate and he was looking forward to working with him. The next day Peter Lawwell agreed a fee with Standard Liege and Watt and his agent were told the decision had been taken at a higher level and that he wasn't in the club's plans. The cynic in me has a hunch that there is someone with PL's ear took a personal dislike to Watt, and it's not Danny McGrain.}

27 Aug 2015 22:27:38
He was always called nt87 after Duncan Ferguson I can remember reading it in the paper when he signed for us

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27 Aug 2015 22:29:20
Hooiveld did well for Southampton helped them get promoted to the prem but hasn't had a sniff at BPL

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27 Aug 2015 22:30:31
Cant have been bad for us to sign them. Not bad players now but for whatever reason it didn't work. With the high percentage of purchases, deemed failures and free/low value punts that follow youd think it good business to work out the reasons.

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27 Aug 2015 22:53:43
Ed that kind of behaviour from those up above certainly doesn't do a new manager any favours and RD therefore never got a chance to work with Watt. Would it be fair to say however that there may have been quite a number of people at CP who had a personal dislike of Watt because of his attitude?

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{Ed007's Note - No mate, that wouldn't be fair, even the Danny McGrain story was blew out of proportion by whoever leaked the story.}

27 Aug 2015 22:55:29
That would make sense. I remember that he was sold only a couple days after getting his first pre-season run out and made a good impact. I think he had a lot of maturing to do but we should have stuck by him because of his abbility/potential.

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{Ed007's Note - Who would you rather see on our bench, Richard, Tony Watt with a year under RD or Ciftci and Scepovic?}

27 Aug 2015 23:03:45
We have had numerous strikers over the last ten years who haven't achieved the standard required on the field. Usually our supporters let them know they were not good enough . With confidence draining the only road for them was out . Some of these have left and remained not up to it , others have done well.
We need to get strikers who do well for us , we need to ensure their fellow attackers play to their strengths .

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27 Aug 2015 20:23:24
Can't beleive I purchased 4 season tickets for the family last week thinking we would get through against Malmรถ I now feel angered and let Down by lawell Ronnie and the players we pay good money and get what In return.

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{Ed007's Note -You'll still see CFC playing at home over 20 times this season, after all CL tickets aren't included in season ticket prices and if you only bought them only to guarantee CL tickets then hell mend you. I hope it's really scunnering you.
It's fairly cheered me up that you feel like that and if you aren't bothered about going and supporting the team I'm sure everyone on here knows a family that would love a day out supporting the Bhoys, perhaps you could donate them and we'll all make sure they get used by people who deserve it.}

27 Aug 2015 21:12:36
Well said Ed! Heard a few folk saying they are fed up and stopping watching, stuff Europa league and everything else. maybe players don't come to us as they don't want to play for half a stadium. Does my head in that a whole section of our stadium is constantly covered with flags now!

Not coming to games will make no difference, the board wouldn't lose sleep over it. So just get to every game. Kerzo you can still get first dibs on the Europa league package, or will you just not go?

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27 Aug 2015 21:20:59
You must be one of the ronny roar men, I admire you to keep going to support the bhoys., but come on surly you must get fed up seeing Celtic players that can't string 2 passes together the ball bouncing off them, crosses going into the stands, wingers running into defenders, bottom of the league teams pegging us back into our own half at home, we scrap pass a crap team and then he comes on for the ronny roar, fair play to you

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{Ed007's Note - I'm a Celtic supporter mate, I stopped being surly when I gave up drinking, perhaps you should try both.}

27 Aug 2015 21:21:28
Totally agree ed yeah were all still down about champions league but c'mon what's that all about we will be back someday but for now let's support the bhoys on our March to 10 in a row

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27 Aug 2015 21:24:09
Some people on here actually amaze me seriously wtf

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27 Aug 2015 21:35:50
Kerzo I hope your post has just come across wrong, but it sounds like you have purchased 4 season tickets purely for Champs league. When you say we pay good money it sounds like you mean your family

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27 Aug 2015 22:15:05
I do get fed up with it, as anyone would with their team playing badly. But I will still go and support my team. I'm not claiming the football is outstanding, but teams always go through a wee poor spell. Itll hopefully get better!

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27 Aug 2015 23:35:21
If we can't support Celtic through thick and thin .
What about not caring if we win lose or draw.
Is that only for those who stood knee deep in urine in the jungle

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27 Aug 2015 20:00:55
Morten Rasmussen remember him? Another one of our dud signings playing for that Danish mob that are playing Southampton tonight, mind you would have him back instead of Ciftci

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27 Aug 2015 20:44:16
He has just scored

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27 Aug 2015 21:18:49
He is having a good game. Think their LW Pione Sisto looks decent holds the ball up well looks strong and has a goal ratio of 1 in 4 wouldn't be a bad squad player

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27 Aug 2015 23:14:07
There are players who can't play for Celtic for whatever reason perhaps the pressure, anyway Ciftci might struggle but Rasmussen was hopeless for us and so was Berget, if we brought them back tomorrow they would be hopeless again. lots of posters are proposing wholesale changes to the playing squad including Brown and Gordon who were great for us last year. So was Charlie Mulgrew until his injury. I I think we still have a decent squad, it is a new manager we need who can set the team up to utilise their strengths rather than pursue his fantasy football

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27 Aug 2015 20:00:48
For the first time since the overspending cheats disappeared, I am concerned about the domestic year. If Hearts and Aberdeen take points from us this season (which is not out of the question if we don't shore up our defence) we could be in for a fight in the league. Our opponents in the cups will have no reason to be scared to have a go and if we cannot take these games by the scruff of the neck and finish teams off, we will be in the hands of the seriously inconsistent referees. We must invest in our defence.

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27 Aug 2015 20:37:05
arrowh

We are a poor team and have been for a long time now, watching our team play is cringing and not only under delia lennon was no better, let's be honest our reserve team should be good enough to win the treble let alone our first team getting destroyed by malmo. Ronny needs to be sacked asap and get in a manager that can bring back some pride.

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27 Aug 2015 20:39:25
We are miles ahead of anything in Scotland and will stroll the league 100% sure of that.

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27 Aug 2015 20:43:51
Its likely we are going to lose our biggest doner of goals Virgil , whether he is replaced in house or by someone bought in we won't be weakened .
The most important thing is for all our fans to prove they are Celtic supporters and support all our players and try to build up confidence in all our defenders . Players low in confidence cannot do themselves justice on the field .

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27 Aug 2015 21:10:16
Sands you need your head examined big style!

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27 Aug 2015 21:23:51
Hearts and Aberdeen will take points off each other too so the challenge will be over by February

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27 Aug 2015 21:26:03
Biggest donor of goals chris02 u don't half talk a lot of ๐Ÿ’ฉ why do u even post anything on this waste of time

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27 Aug 2015 21:37:22
Old bhoy honestly do u sit and think of garbage to spout! How about we reverse the roles for a change and those at Celtic from boardroom to player give us fans some confidence! Some confidence that we don't just pile our hard earned cash in for sod all! Sick of it falling back onto the fans every time! We've nothing to prove pal! Its your lawells and the rest that have got the proving to do! Prove to us that he's not a bullshittter who settles for EL football and spend some money on decent players! RD has had more than enough support from the fans! Any other manager who had been put out of the CL 3 times,yes 3 times in the space of a year would have been hounded by now! And especially in the fashion that we've been knocked out! Without laying a glove on the opposition! So don't give me this prove we're Celtic fans shite pal!

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27 Aug 2015 22:04:32
Old Bhoy it does not matter what we say on the forum. That won't make players better or worse. This is just banter between fans. Believe me RD or Ordro are not on reading this and neither are the players. Also I can't see how you can say we won't be weakened if we lose VVD. Losing him will be a big loss, who else do we have? Looking at Stevies post, I agree we are ahead of any other Scottish team but only because of the size and depth of the squad. If Hearts and Aberdeen have their full squad out they will take points off us, but over the season we should have too much for the rest but We need that squad as we have Europa League to play whils Aberdeen and Hearts don't have that distraction. I am telling everyone now, this team under RD is going to go backwards this season and it's going to be closer than last year.

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27 Aug 2015 22:14:26
Boom love it mate excellent post

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27 Aug 2015 19:29:25
ED007 do you think a rift is developing between Ronnie and some of the senior players after both Commons and Brown, our captain publicly disagreed with him.

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{Ed007's Note - There's no problem with Scott Brown, he's the club captain and give his honest opinion. I don't pay any attention to anything Commons says.}

27 Aug 2015 20:45:41
Commons spoke nonsense , if he didn't know whether the plan was to attack or to try to hold on to what we had , he should have asked

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27 Aug 2015 18:56:12
Goalkeepers
1. C. GORDON - Keep
26. L. BAILLY - Keep
38. L. FASAN - Keep

Defenders

3. E. IZAGUIRRE - Keep(Back up LB)
4. E. AMBROSE - Keep(Back up CB)
5. V. VAN DIJK - Keep(But he's off)
20. D. BOYATA - Punt
21. C. MULGREW - PUNT
22. S. JANKO - Keep
23. M. LUSTIG - Keep(Only if he can stay fit though, if injuries continue needs to go)
34. E. O'CONNELL - Keep
63. K. TIERNEY - Keep

Midfielders

6. N. BITTON - Keep
8. S. BROWN - PUNT(Time is up, enough is enough, time for change)
11. D. BOERRIGTER - PUNT
14. S. ARMSTRONG - Keep(Back up only on bench, not first choice)
15. K. COMMONS - Punt(Times up)
16. G. MACKAY-STEVEN - Punt(Not good enough)
18. T. ROGIC - Keep
19. S. ALLAN - Keep
25. S. JOHANSEN - PUNT
42. C. MCGREGOR - Keep
49. J. FORREST - Keep(Needs to stay injury free and have better end product though)

Strikers

7. N. CIFTCI - Punt(Should never have been signed)
9. L. GRIFFITHS - Keep(Back up domestic striker only)
10. A. STOKES - PUNT
12. S. SCEPOVIC - PUNT

First team Players - On Loan

41. D. FISHER - Keep(Looks promising)
53. L. HENDERSON - Keep

This is what Ronny needs to do if we are to improve, he needs to put his own stamp on the team, that means choosing his own captain, dropping the old guard that played under Lenny entirely(This means Brown, Mulgrew, Stokes and Commons).

If we are to progress, prosper and move forward these are the things Ronny must do. He really needs to grow a pair now before it's too late, he also needs to drop his favourite Johansen to send the message his performances aren't acceptable any longer.

On top of all this, we need to bring in.

2 Goalscoring STs

2 CBs

1 LB

1 RB

1 CM

1 LW, RW and CAM

These are the changes that MUST be made to stop the rot that we are seeing imo, our team has grown extremely STALE and needs freshened up BIG time, a complete clear out is warranted similar to the kind that happened under Lenny once he was appointed as manager.

Will we see it? No chance and with that I believe will cost Ronny his job, there's only so much you can do with the players he has in front of him.

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27 Aug 2015 19:40:01
I can't believe you would get rid of Brown yet keep Ambrose.
It doesn't matter whether Lennon signed the players or not, the idea is to get rid of the poor players, whoever signed them.

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27 Aug 2015 19:41:13
Keep smoking your fun fags

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27 Aug 2015 19:42:40
These aren't the changes that MUST be made by any stretch of the imagination. We need to offload a few players and then add quality to what's the basis of a decent team. Getting rid of your captain and last season's player of the year? Come on man.

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27 Aug 2015 20:07:03
It's not what Ronnie has to do, I honestly give up, what a stupidly rediculous post that wasted time in my life reading it.

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27 Aug 2015 20:10:41
Keep McGregor but punt Stefan, Brown and GMS - your nuts

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27 Aug 2015 20:19:34
So get rid of brown and McKay Stevens and keep ambrose what is the world coming too while we are at it we should also sign kris Boyd and rafael sh!!!e

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27 Aug 2015 20:20:19
What a load of SHITE

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27 Aug 2015 20:20:43
Punt Brown but keep McGregor. really? Enough of what? Being our best player every week in Brown's case?

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27 Aug 2015 20:55:26
Celtic for ever , if Celtic took your advice it would be Celtic for never .
You are forever dreading the next match and then when it is over you. Go over the top. After the last round you were very quick to apologise for expressing so much fear before the game .
Tuesday night was a disaster , however our main defender who wants out , could not organise our defence to defend straight forward corners . The last minute of the first leg and two corners on Tuesdaynight , he messed up big time . Our team played rubbish but it was simple non defending of corners that put us out . Brown didn't play nearly as well as we expect him , but to punt him now would be crazy .
Hartson hadn't done anything for us in the same number of games Clifti has had , and Hartson came good .

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27 Aug 2015 21:24:29
Browns pish lads I'm sorry to say, his passing is some of the worst I have seen alongside Johansens this season, Brown is in general an all round poor player on high wages which he shouldn't be on. There's a reason that he hasn't moved on to pastures new while loads of others have, just like Commons, Stokes and Mulgrew who are also rotting away still with us whilst players that show promise like Wanyama, Hooper, Forster, Ki get moves away. Because they're unwanted commodities from teams down south or there would be at least some public enquiries in them which there hasn't.

WAKE up to guys like Brown, he's imo the most over rated player in our history, he didn't turn up when we needed him most to turn up against Malmo, we don't need him to beat sides like Inverness and St Johnstone as was shown against Dundee Utd at the weekend. A lot of our fans are deluded when it comes to Brown it seems he can do no wrong, had that been Ambrose on the lash eating pizza at the side of the road he'd be getting pelters off the same fans that stuck up for Brown just because of the player he is. Our fans are deluded when it comes to Brown who have a blind faith in him, he was out captain in the season under Mowbray ffs he should have been stripped of the armband there and then after that season. When I said keep guys like Ambrose and McGregor I'm meaning more squad back up players. Although McGregor has got more football ability in his pinky toe than Brown has in his whole body. Wtf does it have to take for folk to wake up to how poor a player Brown is? Effing madness and so frustrating.

Let Ronny decide his own captain and own team and own players, let Ronny put his OWN stamp on it why should he settle for what players had what before him? Effing shoocking for a guy like Brown as captain to be forced upon Ronny, he can't play the way Ronny wants, which is free, fast flowing attacking fitba but he isn't the only one. For as long as he is a first pick we are going nowhere, I'm pigsick of the sight of him in the middle of the park. That's 8 years now and Ledley, Kayal, Ki, Wanyama and Bitton have all been better than Brown in the middle of the park over the last five years.

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27 Aug 2015 21:29:19
I wouldn't punt Brown or Johansen and keep Mcgregor and Ambrose. I agree Johansen does need dropped as he's been shocking this season but think he needs a rest like Armstrong did

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27 Aug 2015 23:20:51
brown is vital to the team suggestions of getting rid of him are lunacy. Personally I would move Johanssen on, his performances have deteriorated while he seems to have become increasingly a prima Donna. however if he was dropped then I think I would give him some leeway and see if he comes back improved. I think the thing that agitates me about him is the idea he is undroppable no matter how bad he is playing

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28 Aug 2015 01:01:08
Old Bhoy come on now John Hartson had proved himself at Arsenal, West Ham, Wimbledon and Coventry in the Prem which was a decent level and a tough league, also scored a good few goals for Wales.

A level Cifcti hasn't come close to playing week in, week out and proving himself. A ridiculous comparison quite frankly tbh.

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27 Aug 2015 17:41:23
What a group! PSG, Real Madrid and Shakhtar. We'd have got hammered but imagine the CP atmosphere.

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27 Aug 2015 18:10:11
it really does depress me , always fancied a trip to Madrid ๐Ÿ˜ข

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27 Aug 2015 19:27:30
Guys you are all assuming Malmo simply took our place, but I am certain if Celtic had got through we would have been in a higher pot, so teams would have been different.

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27 Aug 2015 19:54:48
Not quite the point really is it Tim! It's just an example of what would could have been! And it makes me sick! And it's the perfect example of why the EL means nothing to me personally! It's the poor relation! And the crowds will reflect as such when it comes round!

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27 Aug 2015 21:31:17
Would've been nice to play PSG and Madrid not in the same campaign though and not had we qualified as they would have crucified us

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27 Aug 2015 17:38:26
Unbelievable u saw the draw for champions league real Madrid psg shaktar malmo what a group. Fuming

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27 Aug 2015 17:56:54
Would have gotten skelped in every game there on present form. Still, what a treat for the fans: precisely what we deserve.

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27 Aug 2015 18:49:43
Doesn't matter one iota now ,

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27 Aug 2015 21:00:12
We had our opportunity and Malmo out foxed us , out fought us and we got what we deserved . We are not good enough to compete against the teams Malmo are playing . I would hate to see us getting beaten and the crowd giving abuse at certain players from the stands and in the forums . Our fans at this stage don't seem to want to build confidence in our players .

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27 Aug 2015 23:45:59
Don't think the main thing was malmo outfoxing or outfighting us, the main thing was once again Ronnie picking the wrong team and playing the wrong tactics and on top of that resting most of the team before an important game instead of using any game as an oppurtunity to develop team bonding and pick up on possible frailties in the team he was thinking of playing against malmo,this resting players smacks a bit too much of supersalaries luxurising his 'superstars' in gleneagles and turnberry ,i think if Ronnie wants to keep his job he'd better get his act together,don't consider ciftci until his suspension is over,give Ambrose a good long run at right back to see if he can recover his form,get Allan into midfield as soon as possible and give him a long run,all this criticsm of Brown is ridiculous,even the best of players can look bad in a badly set up team,over to you Ronnie pick the right team and play the right tacticts

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27 Aug 2015 17:20:21
Ed can we expect any signings before the deadline or has us being put out the champions league thrown a massive spanner in the works and the only thing to be happening is Van Dijk for the off can you tell us anything always appreciated.

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{Ed007's Note - There will be more than van Dijk heading towards the exit door, Scepovic, Boeriggter and possibly Stokes and I really wouldn't be surprised to see Izaguirre leaving if there is any serious interest in him.
I expect there will be a couple of diddy loan signings we've never heard of and the usual soup takers and board apologists will be on here saying that we need to give them a chance a la Miku and Lassad etc. that in Pedro and John Park we trust and that we shouldn't spend money in case we end up like Rangers.}

27 Aug 2015 18:32:26
But Ed haven't you heard the Malmo team only cost ยฃ3 million to put together? Heard that plenty on here too and the muppets saying it are expecting us to do the same when big Peter is telling every selling club we can afford 6 million pound players.

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{Ed007's Note - If you pay peanuts you monkeys, Craig Gordon looking like a diddy again in Europe, LG's spolit brat act of when he's not getting his own way he decides to risk a red card by returning to full blown ned mode and assaulting an opposition player, Ciftci doing what he does best - nothing (that's over 300 mins of football and still not one single goal), Charlie Mulgrew's running about like startled rabbit chasing shadows. And anyone suggesting Mulgrew should start in front of Izaguirre needs their head testing, at least Izaguirre brings an attacking FB option whereas Mulgrew brings us the worse than a man short option.
Has the ego known as Kris Commons done anything since he signed a new deal? While his 'I'll do anything to be famous' WAG was out touring supporters buses her man was in the dressing room trying to undermine the manager, I have never known a a more odious or repugnant couple than those two. RD is the second successive CFC manager Commons and his concubine have had problems with, remember the 2011-12 season when him and NL fell out when he spat the dummy and got deliberately red carded at Tynecastle?
Then there's James Forrest - pound for pound by far THE worst player I've ever seen in a Celtic top, including kids and fat blokes down the park - the concerns over his fitness only mask the fact he is dog-muck, before the game the other night BT showed you about 7 or 8 clips of Forrest from the first game and every time he ran into his man and the lost the ball, the only time he didn't lose the ball was in one of them and that was a cross that went out for a throw-in. He can't beat a man, he can't cross a ball and he can't shoot, what does the fraud actually bring to the team?}

27 Aug 2015 18:52:51
Things are going to get worse. Have absolutely no faith in our chances of progressing with Dermott Desmond, Peter Lawwell and John Park at club.

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27 Aug 2015 19:07:07
And failings like Tuesday will only make the problems worse. Like every Celtic fan I know we have resigned ourselves to being a selling club but barring VVD, Bitton and Johansen we would be lucky to give the rest away.

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27 Aug 2015 18:47:59
I agree ed but do u think we will try and replace VVD? If not I'd rather start with oconnal than mulgrew and just say feck it let's see what the Bhoy can do! We could really use another academy John Kennedy with out the horrific injuries tho!

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{Ed007's Note - We will probably replace van Dijk with a loan from Man City, we've not got that yet. We were linked with taking winger Brandon Barker on loan from them to replace Boerrigter but that looks like it's doomed now as well.}

27 Aug 2015 19:02:54
I agree Ed007 as I sense all is not well with a few of the squad and the blame-game after Malmo will not help.
Well done on the last few days by the way, keeping the site boiling over with all the comments and reaction that was flooding in. This is a fantastic forum and we all appreciate the graft you put in to keep us informed and involved.
Cheers mate.

JJ

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27 Aug 2015 20:01:12
wow Ed donthink I have seen you quite this hot all in one go. Well said and great coments. long may it continue

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{Ed007's Note - We've got far too many players that just aren't good enough and yet there are still some fans refuse to see it, or they just refuse to admit it.}

27 Aug 2015 20:07:37
Never heard about the Brandon Barker link Ed, But out of all the Man City loans he is the one I would want the most

Boy would run riot up here he has been @ Man City since before they had money played @ under 15 level when 12 played at under 18-19 when 15 scored four twice in big games at his level mate and runs like the wind with a low centre of gravity boy has every chance IMO

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27 Aug 2015 21:36:49
That post is a belter ED POTD!

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27 Aug 2015 21:44:11
The Ed is exactly correct. If we shortened our squad a bit it would allow us to increase our wages by enough to attract a better standard of player and we would be no worse off money wise.I would rather have young players as back up than overpaid passengers and we all know who they are.

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27 Aug 2015 22:34:55
I watched a Larsson documentary on youtube the other night we was paying him ยฃ38k a week all those years ago. Not saying he didn't deserve it but we managed to pay all these big fees and offer a decent wage for the quality then why not now with the money we've made over the seasons and the sponsorships being the best we've had as well

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27 Aug 2015 16:15:57
Don't know if it is possible re seeding and different pots, but with our luck our nightmare draw would be Qarabag (all the hassle of getting there) Rubin Kazan (hassle of travelling again) Legia Warsaw (just hassle and more hassle)

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27 Aug 2015 14:48:38
"Frightened and scared" they should be with Ronnie at the helm. Time to cut the losses and reinvest in a new manager.Farm out the DUFC 3, Scep, dirk,Mulgrew, Forrest and Allan until such time they can be shifted on or improve.

Gordon /Bailey
3 - 5 -2
Lustig Boyata O Connell
Janko Rogic Effe Brown Izzy
Griffiths Stokes/Commons
Drop Izzy back for a 442 and replace Effe with commons

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27 Aug 2015 15:20:48
I don't know what to say, I'm lost for words, so many things to say but Are you mental?

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27 Aug 2015 15:42:27
Jbhoy
I thought exactly the same lol
I was going to reply but decided not to!! lol

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27 Aug 2015 15:59:49
A good team for a testimonial game, but not a competitive game

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27 Aug 2015 16:20:11
Mass hysteria

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27 Aug 2015 16:32:07
Maniac - what made me laugh most was Commons.

He is done , waste of a shirt now and please don't quote what he did 3 years ago cause I don't care

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27 Aug 2015 16:47:23
That team would beat Malmo with anybody but Ronnie at the helm.
Malmo are a bad team, no excuses Ronnie had the players at his disposal to beat them, he failed.
mass hysteria involves masses?
Mental? Not that I know of, just not believing the party line about Ronnie and his wonder system.

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27 Aug 2015 17:07:07
Commons might be done but still a better option than Stephens, Armstrong, or Forrest,that the situ the club is in existing players better than recent signings.

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27 Aug 2015 17:19:50
Manaic says Kev. The guy who's says I like RD but he has to change his system. WHF do you like him? Nice hair do?
he's paid to win matches and get Celtic into CL, has failed miserable to date but I like him. Yes I'm the maniac ok.

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27 Aug 2015 17:30:03
Who is stephens is that a player u have in your fifa 15 team ttts your fast becoming the new chris02 lol

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{Ed007's Note - Isn't Old Bhoy the 'new' Chris02?}

27 Aug 2015 17:34:49
Commons is past it. The future is gms sa and Stuart Armstrong. So get over it

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27 Aug 2015 17:45:29
Oops didn't use his double barrelled name, shame and spelt the Stevens wrong. He's the big named signing our club scooped up.
Scooped sounds good.

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27 Aug 2015 17:45:34
Awwww is that right lolol that makes lots of sense then

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27 Aug 2015 17:55:04
Aw away u go take a happy pill

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27 Aug 2015 18:02:52
What has Biton done do be dropped for an in proven player too

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27 Aug 2015 18:04:22
Just as I'll get over the Libor Kovak rumour Marko.

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27 Aug 2015 18:08:49
Did you see him on Tuesday? Biton.
for the amount of mid fielders RD has at his disposal Tuesdays mid field was shocking Biton included.

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27 Aug 2015 18:27:27
TTTS I usually read your posts and in the main they are correct but I honestly don't know what you are smoking today. LOL but amongst all the doom and gloom it made me smile. Away to yer bed big fella and have another go tomorrow. No offence fella!

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27 Aug 2015 18:33:10
ha ha Ed , mate you are so fargin right a wanted to ask you if you thought old bhoy was chronic02 in disguise pmsl & don't forget I spotted him first :-D

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{Ed007's Note - There's no question about it, I spotted his pointless, sanctimonious and mundane tone right away. Read his posts, they very rarely actually say anything.
Voltaire once said 'The secret of being boring is to say everything', that encapsulates Chris02 pots perfectly, I just ignore him and I have no interest in interacting with him, anything he directs at me will just be deleted, let's not forget this is a poster and supposed CFC supporter who accused CFC fans of being racist for slating Ambrose.}

27 Aug 2015 18:13:43
Nice to see TTTS trying to make fans smile after a tough week. Efe in centre midfield,Allan being shipped out before playing a game, along with Trevor Steven??

Quality mate

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27 Aug 2015 19:06:57
Ha Ha ED, I have been thinking the same, it's a bit of a coincidence that shortly after chris02 Disappeared that old bhoy came on the scene, and chris was also an older poster, and he is just as annoying!

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27 Aug 2015 19:12:24
None taken Johnny Mac. Some line out all the same.

Effe and Brown anchor, Rogic spreading it round like a std, and izzie, Janko storming the flanks, supplying our teacake,elvis loving strikers.

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27 Aug 2015 19:19:50
Yeah Ed, accuses many a fan on here of NOT being a fan! struggles to refer to people as there names a clocked it right away when he referred to a decent poster on here as JimJim instead of JimTim always niggles at a point and never an OP to offer (y)

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{Ed007's Note - That not calling people by their right name is a Zombie trait, take a look at any of their forums and you'll see it's usually only them that are that pig ignorant.}

27 Aug 2015 19:33:32
Who mentioned Trevor Stevens nt87? Only your good self.๐ŸŽˆ

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27 Aug 2015 19:37:45
Och what the laddies like here, Bobby Murdoch ran with his chest puffed oot. Pride burstin when he scored again Leeds. Never mind the wee lassie sniggerin at fellow posers oan here. I like that old wee are family number, brothers sisters you n me. Celtic isnae for sniggerin lads. I now await some paradise nights.

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27 Aug 2015 19:52:04
Right lads iv supported RD big time and still do. We should give him one last shot at the champions league, if he fails again he will walk himself or should be sacked. I strongly believe the board should be sacked and new leadership brought in through the board. Dermot the absentee owner does nothing but advertise his other businesses through Celtic. I'm telling you all know that there will be less than 30,000 at the game this weekend. Hail Hail

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{Ed007's Note - If there's only 30,000 at the game on a Saturday that means the glory hunting fair weather fans haven't turned up, to me that's a good thing.}

27 Aug 2015 20:00:52
Spot fkin on Ed, That is a zombie trait! It stems from a lack of concentration IMO! no fkin wonder you blame the schools and the lack of a father figure ;-D

Keep it up mate (Y)(Y)

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{Ed007's Note - It sticks out like a sore thumb, and it is pig ignorant.}

27 Aug 2015 20:13:44
ttts, Rogic has done nothing in a Celtic shirt to warrant replacing Biton, what I've seen of him is he can't turn with the ball, and passes it the way he's facing.
By that thinking scepovic should be kept & played in front of griffiths.

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27 Aug 2015 20:47:02
Ed good on ye for your connection with like mindedness but 60000 at paradise is manna to most tic fans. let's all make a noise together. Keep your slightly elitist fanhood to yersel. Gie me a selloot oanyday

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27 Aug 2015 21:42:37
That team would get pumped even on football manager!

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27 Aug 2015 22:35:05
Rubbish ED07, true fans will be standing together at the main doors on Saturday to vent their thoughts. I will be there around 2pm, you are welcome to join me or are you one of the sheep that blindly follows all the other sheep within our not so big support?

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{Ed007's Note - Hahahaha I'll believe that when I see it. Are you prepared for the backlash from the #celticfamily Yeah mate, I'm a total sheep, I'm always eager to find a way to get money out of our support, I buy all the sh1te books that fans write to fleece other fans and I need to check social media first before I say anything in case I upset anyone by having an original thought of my own. Oh and I need to check what the latest popular charity is to tag onto to help fleece the support.
It'll be a cold day in hell before I need the likes of you telling me what kind of supporter I am.
I'll give you a wave on Saturday as I pass you going in the front door to get my lunch before the match, oh wait a minute, I'll just be getting served my second course at 2 o'clock - damn!}

27 Aug 2015 13:44:45
Not a rumour, just a thought.
Kevin Nolan has left West Ham. Yes I know he's 33 and he's a midfielder but he has guile, toughness and talent to play at our level. I think he'd be a great signing to put some backbone into our side. He's a decent leader of players and isn't afraid to say what he thinks. He'd be an excellent companion to Broony.

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27 Aug 2015 14:56:37
He has the right characteristics but he just wouldn't get a game.

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27 Aug 2015 16:01:29
Certainly not a long term deal. May do a job until Christmas .
I know things are bad but a 33 year old cast off?

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27 Aug 2015 16:18:34
Old Bhoy age is irrelevant. Moravcik was 33 when he signed and done great job

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27 Aug 2015 16:24:42
Yip, and Lubo Moravcik was a 30 something cast off when he came to us.

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27 Aug 2015 21:45:26
Please God no!

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27 Aug 2015 23:50:14
We didn't know Lubo. Lubo had special powers and ability at striking a ball which enabled him to play until his late 30's . Of course I can't be sure but in my opinion Kevin Nolan is all about hard work bustling and using his strength . I think his end is near I would have loved if we had signed him two or three years ago.

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27 Aug 2015 13:13:48
Anyone no date and time for the end of scotish transfer window. heard english one is at 6pm?

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27 Aug 2015 15:18:38
does it matter mate? other than boerigter leaving that will be us!

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27 Aug 2015 15:49:06
Sadly Jamiebhoy you are right. Had we qualified, then maybe we might have had someone interested enough for CL but now? I would also say our Flying Dutchman is also gone so that's it until Christmas.
I for one am draining of interest very fast. I have no further expectations from this lot now. Naturally the players are defending themselves but as I said previously. If they can't "turn up", are scared, etc. then they have no right to wear the green and white of Celtic. If, as many claim, they did not work hard enough then they should forfeit their salary and donate it to a charitable cause as they certainly have not earned a penny on this one.
We could have put out a team of players from the members of this forum who would have played with more passion and determination.

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27 Aug 2015 16:26:09
A team from this forum may have had more passion but they'd have lost 102-0!!

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27 Aug 2015 17:02:13
Couldn't agree more TinyTim any big decent transfer would have been in to try & get us to qualification and RD said he wanted business did early

Scary part for me is VVD away and a good but injury prone Lustig moving to CH and with Fisher away on loan

Disgruntled does not even cover it! Never mind eh folks we always have Efe & Nulgew to fall back on :-(

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27 Aug 2015 21:44:43
I have a better shot than Commons so chalk me up for a goal

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27 Aug 2015 23:53:04
I would say that Fisher is away on loan because Deila doesn't reckon he will feature this season for Celtic .
Most of us would have expected both Henderson and Fisher to have played a lot more last season.

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27 Aug 2015 12:50:50
After watching that drivel on Tuesday the need for a real playmaker is a must imo more so than a striker we couldn't hold play. dictate or direct play. pass forward or change the point/speed of attack . too many holding defensive players . biton not mobile or fast enough for the role ie rogic . Brown is brown. Johanson is fast becoming a headless chicken just looking for square go's and arguments. commons . past it . mulgrew never had it . Armstrong hasn't been played there yet but has flattered to deceive so far but in his defence and gms I think they are being reined in to keep the teams shape. oh for a Paul mcstay .
Brown saying we were rubbish. as captain he should have been kicking their arses and telling them to get the finger out.

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27 Aug 2015 14:54:09
I think our whole MF ran about like a lack lustre bunch of headless chickens on Tuesday! But I disagree I really feel we need a target man option to hold up play when we are struggling in certain games

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27 Aug 2015 16:05:10
Paul Mc Stay would be a worse signing than Kevin Nolan .
The most important thing is to get the team playing to the style and ability of last May.

Too many players under performing . That needs addressing and changing .

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27 Aug 2015 16:14:29
Think Allan should a sustained run to see what he can bring to the team in terms of creativity.

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27 Aug 2015 18:03:44
Paul McStay even today would still be better than Johanssen

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27 Aug 2015 11:51:45
Still disgusted about tuesdays performance don't think I could care less about the europa league right now if we're going to perform like that

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27 Aug 2015 16:07:58
Definitely Birminghambhoy it is difficult to look forward to the UEFA league draw.
I hate the Thursday night and Sunday lunch time football. I also hate us struggling against teams we know nothing about

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27 Aug 2015 11:31:05
Just seen Kevin Nolan released by West Ham would anybody take him on a free. I'd have him any day of week as can score and is better than what we currently have though isn't really in our age bracket with no sell on value.

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27 Aug 2015 15:06:36
He'd be a free Greg. Useful for a season or two in my reckoning. Doesn't matter if he has a sell on value. We need to get away from this "all players must have a sell on value".

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27 Aug 2015 10:40:37
I agree with a lot of what paradise has said. I'm not sure this big game issue is relevant. I do agree that RD still has a lot to prove and he has definitely made mistakes on selection and substitutions.

However, only 2 Deila signings made the squad for the Maribor games and 3 started the Malmรถ game. He hasn't been backed. Lennon left because he knew that summer the club would sell and not buy so he couldn't take the club further. If you look back at the last 3 consistent regimes we've had it takes time and major overhaul to move on. After o'neill strachan had to reduce the wage bill and move on some ageing expensive pros. Lennon had to do a similar job to get his squad.

One criticism I would have of Deila is that he wasn't ruthless enough with some of the deadwood but if you're told that you won't be able to replace what you get rid of them you would be reluctant.

Boyata was brought in to replace VVD so they were always going to be a bad partnership. Both need a Denayer style to compliment them. It is a difficult situation for anyone and we must stop forcing managers especially a new one to manage in short stints of a season.

Stint 1 - use someone else's squad to take on your ideas and get criticized for changing too much too soon or fail with those players using someone else's strategies.
Stint 2 - if you do get into the CL have 1 week to revamp a squad not good enough for the CL Group or struggle to get substandard EL players in and waste 2m per head.
Stint 3 - spend the rest of the season with a squad that is too expensive for what your trying to achieve (domestic success) all the while people forget the cycle mentioned above just enough so that the board push you into the cycle again next summer.

I'd be happy to see up to 10 players leave (maybe 1 or 2 too many) to reduce the wage bill and maybe get a couple of mill in fees so that can be used in summer or jan to get ready for qualifiers rather than get ready for CL if we get through. We have enough to win the double defo and with better luck the treble. We might get a chance to see young players get a run out. Look how raw boyata is having hardly played first team football at his age.

What do you think we could achieve if we list the following?
Dirk, scep, stokes, Efe, VVD, mulgrew, commons, macgregor.

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27 Aug 2015 15:17:00
I would keep commons he still in my opinion has a lot to us as the rest I agree

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27 Aug 2015 20:33:45
AndyThom

Stint 3 - isn't that what we already did last season? Sold Forster for a decent few and brought in players in January with a view to settling them in for this years qualifiers. We were even being told in June that the January signing were actually summer signings brought in early.

Plan sounds good but how about we actually back out manager with at least what we bring in from sales? 10 million brough in from Foster but only 4 spent, 2 million on Scepovic and 2 on the 2 from Dundee United. 10 million about to come on for VVD and again about 4 million spent.

Although season ticket prices have gone down we are making millions from that and other revenue streams so we should be able to spend what we make from sales.

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27 Aug 2015 23:58:50
Wanting rid of the dead wood is one thing . These players are all on contracts and unless some other club want to sign them and pay their wages they won't be going anywhere . These Celtic players couldn't earn the same money anywhere else in Scotland , so they are hard to move .

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27 Aug 2015 10:36:15
Kevin Nolan free agent left west ham by mutual consent should we be interested just askin?

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27 Aug 2015 13:48:52
yes. Definitely. Tough guy who backs it up with drive and determination instead of Broony who just wants to look at players and laugh at them.

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27 Aug 2015 21:47:48
As cover he could do a job he was to West Ham as Broony is to us plus he has more goals in him

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27 Aug 2015 09:55:54
Not a word from Lawell. What is he going to do? Continue ignoring the bleeding obvious or just chuck it.
Doing nothing and hoping we all continue to keep the faith is wearing thinner than our defence.

Everybody and their aunty knows our defence is a shambles. They should not have scored three of their goals. That says it all. With VVD going what will it be like then?

Let's hear your ideas for stopping us being a laughing stock Peter.

We are all ears.

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27 Aug 2015 16:11:12
How could the defence be otherwise , it contains a bombscare and Izzy who cannot defend . How can we expect our back four to perform when our defensive players know how little is thought of our defensive unit as a whole .

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27 Aug 2015 09:36:28
Right bhoys who's looking forward to the draw Tomorrow some good potential opponents we could be in a group spurs legia Warsaw and Southampton would love to get a English team anyway just remember disappointment is temporary liquidation is permanent hail hail

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27 Aug 2015 09:57:10
Our situation has been permanent fir too long. And will continue until we say enough.

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27 Aug 2015 10:03:31
Gordo I couldn't care less who we get in EL! And yeh let's get an English team so they can hammer us and we never here the end of it from there pundits and media! That's a lot of the problem mate,it's let's just forget Tuesday and look forward to the EL and getting a treble! Well I'm sick to the back teeth of just forgetting! I for one won't be forgetting that shambles on Tuesday in a hurry! And couldn't give a toss who we get in the EL! Means nothing to me! And I'm sure that will be reflected by the rows of empty seats in paradise when we play our 1st home game in it!! Let's show these clowns who are running the club that the runners up competition means f**k all to us and they can shove there 3 match packages for it up there arse! That's the only way these pricks will get the message!

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27 Aug 2015 10:22:45
Dortmund would be a cracking draw. Or Liverpool. Hope we get a huge team but also a group we can get out of. Anyone know what pot we'll be in?

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27 Aug 2015 11:49:46
If vvd goes Southampton i'd love to draw them i'm starting to 2nd guess my opinion on him and maybe he can only perform at spfl level and will flop in the prem

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27 Aug 2015 11:54:26
Good to see a positive post Tuesday was an embarrassment but we have to move on would be good if we could get Dortmund that would go some way to make up for no CL. RD still has my full backing his assessment could not be more spot on after the game to many posts blaming RD and his tactics if the players can't show a bit of determination then even Big Jock would have struggled. We can still have a great season

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27 Aug 2015 12:15:15
Spurs and Southampton can't be in the same group but if Virgil goes to Southampton it's probably a stick on we'll get them.

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27 Aug 2015 12:18:41
Well Said Gordo,We to need to move on and get behind the Club again.

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27 Aug 2015 13:09:54
Dortmund are in pot 1 aswell would love to get them

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27 Aug 2015 13:46:06
That's your opinion dh88 but you will be tuned in tomorrow to see who we get let's be honest here you might not go to the game but guaranteed you'll be watchting it.we have people on the board with more money and that want to buy out Desmond but for whatever reason he won't selI I understand your disappointed mate but we are celtic supporters faithful through and through

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27 Aug 2015 13:51:06
LM67, that's a big ask. Get a decent team AND a group we can get out of? It's going to be one or the other, we don't have the strength to get past a decent team.

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27 Aug 2015 13:51:28
Were pot two I think.

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27 Aug 2015 13:58:45
Aye pot 2 so are Liverpool

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27 Aug 2015 14:08:51
Gordo I can assure u buddy,I couldn't give a monkeys who we get! And this faithful through and through pish doesn't wash anymore! Dortmund or one of the other big teams! Are use havin a laugh! We couldn't even compete with Malmo for f**k sake! But it's the same old let's move on pish as usual! And campsie bhoy nothing will make up for faiure to get to the CL! And I mean nothing! Not even if we win the league by 40 points!! There's a time to back your club and there's a time to start wanting answer to what the going on! 3 failed attempts to get in the CL in a year against mediocre opposition! Hardly a penny spent! Crying out for a striker and left back but we waste money on Scott Allan! Who didn't even make the bench in either game! If we had scraped through lawells Fuckn arrogant face would have been in every bloody paper! But the silence is deafening! It's the same old give the fans a few days And they'll forget all about it! Well we need answers!

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28 Aug 2015 00:25:56
Pity Southampton didn't qualify , we can't test ourselves against the Liverpool feeder club . We might have to keep Virgil as there won't be any European football at St Mary's

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