Celtic Banter Archive October 26 2017

26 Oct 2017 20:09:08
Some comments in a separate thread got me thinking about loans and what is the best way to develop youngsters and lead me to the following question.

Is loaning out our players to other SPFL clubs really the Best for their development anymore?

Going out to the likes of Killie is all fair and well but are they receiving a grounding in the type of football that is required of them for playing for us anymore? How many players do we really loan out who come back and go on to be regulars? I can’t think of many where that has been the case, perhaps McGregor being a recent example and he didn’t go to a Scottish team.

I think that in any sport the only way you can improve is to play and train against players of a higher quality than you are currently at and we aren’t going to get that by loaning to other Scottish clubs, otherwise why aren’t we sending the likes of Ralston, Aitchison, Kouassi etc out to the likes of Dundee, St Johnstone etc?

Perhaps a more realistic route for us is to try and get these guys out to other countries where technique is more of the philosophy, set up a partnership with some teams floating at the fringes of top divisions in Spain, Germany, Holland and Italy and see if any would be willing to take a few of our prospects on for a year and see how it goes. At the very least they will be getting a better football education than they would be getting at Ross County or wherever. Or maybe I’ve been playing too much championship manager.

26 Oct 2017 20:28:36
@Evinguu may I make two points
Firstly, you are far too sensible to be on here
Secondly, in the absence of Wee Pat can I remind you of our agreement to keep your posts short lol.

26 Oct 2017 21:44:07
Why do people keep mentioning Ralston for lone when he's our number 2 right back?

{Ed007's Note - Loan out Ralston, spend millions on a new RB and bench Lustig.}

27 Oct 2017 06:47:43
Erving: ok so some of the EPL clubs get us to give their youngsters a start . What I have noticed with some of the younger players down south is, they don’t want to go on like an they want to play football and as such are walking away from teams like Chelsea to get a start at a lower league team: This is where the real Gems are and they will be cheap.
Getting a player like PR and Moussa sends a message out to these kids that we will give you start and a chance to make a name for yourself.

27 Oct 2017 09:13:29
I agree with you Evingu. It's player depending of course, foreign players may need to adjust to the Scottish/ British game. Likewise a youngster may add the strings they need for their bow in a different environment, such as Spain. I think the coach/ manager of the receiving club is a big factor too. How are they teaching players to play? I think that is more important than where they are playing. Bang on with the idea of setting up partnerships abroad, I know we have some official ones already but I don't hear much about players swapping Celtic for Santos Laguna or vice versa.

27 Oct 2017 10:17:03
Evingu. we now have Clark at killie regarded as a great coach in epl and most would have had him here coaching. they need players without spending our boys need experience an opportunity? . kev . yes he's no 2 but six month or a season playing regularly rather than possibly a dozen as back up must be better for boys like Ralston.? . don't know . but do the loan boys train everyday with their loan clubs.

26 Oct 2017 23:50:33
Timalloy, that is short by my standards, I could have gone on as well you know.

Kev. I’m not saying he should be one out on loan just using as an example. But have not seen it mentioned myself that he needs it.

Ed now that is what I call thinking, need a new 6 mil right back who can also play centre mid.

27 Oct 2017 07:55:28
Hope that is sarcasm ed007.

{Ed007's Note - :)

27 Oct 2017 13:51:51
Deep river bhoy he would have played plenty games here if he hadn't been injuried. He's already played against some of the best in the world and is by far a better player than gamboa.

26 Oct 2017 18:43:55
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Ferenc Puskas

26 Oct 2017
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Tragic Roundabout

26 Oct 2017 15:30:28
ED : well done you said Pedro would not last till Xmas, hope you have a few £££ on it . 😉😉.

{Ed007's Note - Nah I didn't mate.}

26 Oct 2017 15:52:21
ED007 with this sad news today for all us Tims, I thought I would cheer everyone up by compiling my top 5 Caravan songs.
Planet Caravan (where Pedro lived)
Caravan of Love (not any more)
Camper Van (all he can afford now)
Spanish Caravan (split in two)
But my favourite has to be.
If Jesus drove a Motor Home, and the irony goes on with the composer JIM WHITE.

26 Oct 2017 15:52:45
So, Pedro goes and is probably relieved. What next for the Ibroken club? No decent manager worth thinking about will go near that basket case of a club, no money to get one in any case. Number 1 scenario is on an 'internal reshuffle' with Miller taking on a coaching role under Murty until they can convince some eedjit to take on the job. Number 2 scenario is Murty might do well and be given the job full time with Miller as assistant, Number 3 scenario, a 'real ranjurz man' is found (Mcleish, Ferguson, Gazza, King William etc etc) Number 4, 5, 6 etc etc. Any of those scenarios are going to cost the club a serious slice of wedge.
Better go get my Ice cream out the freezer and make my Jelly!

26 Oct 2017 16:10:43
Murty in till new man found any name apart from usual list big Eck etc.

26 Oct 2017 16:29:38
My call that he wouldn’t even make Halloween was better 😜😜😜😂😂😂🙈🙈 I for one will miss the guy! What a laugh he was! 😂😂😂.

26 Oct 2017 16:34:41
Big Eck couldn't even comb his hair last night and he knows fine well the gulf that exists

It will be Tommy Wright IMO to bridge the gap to Aberdeen.

26 Oct 2017 16:40:29
Gutted about this! What a laugh we've had. To be fair they looked better under Murty than they have anybody in their history.

26 Oct 2017 17:32:06
Big Eck looked uneasy when asked about Pedro last night Rich T .

26 Oct 2017 18:37:07
if a team formed in 2012 had reached three semi finals and a final and had a few top six finishes it would be seen as abrilliant achievement and progress; however.

26 Oct 2017 22:21:41
Just waiting to collect £50 from each of 2 work colleagues. A daft bet made in the heat of the moment after we drew 0-0 with Rosenberg. They reckoned we wouldn’t qualify for European football. I bet we’d have European football longer than they had a manager. 😂.

27 Oct 2017 06:46:33
It's their failure to look in the mirror and see the pig looking back at them that stops them seeing their club for what it is, they see the king looking back and expect the money and success that comes with it. So they'll never be happy, but we'll be as happy as pigs in shit, n that's all that matters.

27 Oct 2017 06:55:14
Congratulations evander.

26 Oct 2017
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Get me out of here

26 Oct 2017 12:18:32
He's actually holding the phone upside down!

26 Oct 2017 14:48:26
Well spotted dasa! 😃😂😂😂😂😂 guys a legend honestly! 😝😝.

26 Oct 2017 15:19:58
Pedro sacked Pic of him leaving Murray park in his car with his Caravan lol.

26 Oct 2017 16:46:17
Bhoys, there were two posts with same pic. One was for the airport and the other said - can't even get that right about the phone.

26 Oct 2017 10:54:54
The best performance of the season by far! A strong squad when all fit that will get better and better under Rodgers. This is totally enjoyable and delightful this "Karma" thing. Across the city the howls of the undead are ringing out and all are ready to self implode!

26 Oct 2017 08:01:12
Out of the 11 that started last night 10 of them were here before the manager arrived.
Have we ever seen that many players improved by a new manager coming in at Celtic before?

26 Oct 2017 10:51:29
I went to my first game in 1962 and the obvious comparison would be big jocks transformation in 1965/ 66
However there are very strong similarities to the belief and confidence being instilled with wise words, practices and motivation that augurs well for the future of Celtic.