Celtic Banter Archive October 26 2014

 

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26 Oct 2014 23:13:37
Ultimately we watch sport to be entertained, but also we are connected to a club for reasons that go beyond mere sport. Celtic the company with their present stance both on and of the field can now in my eyes gtf.Watching, god forgive me, Davey Proven kicking ball from the Celtic end in the middle of November, eating a pie and looking forward to a double vodka in the London Rd tavern was all part of the experience. It's no more an experience.

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27 Oct 2014 23:02:49
7 points out of 9 unbeaten in the europa league, 3 points off top of the league with a game in hand, 1 game away from a domestic cup final and your saying the club you supposedly support can 'gtf' that is baffling 2 say the least

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26 Oct 2014 22:53:32
I am just back from the match so I have only just seen your reply.
I think you know full well that when I talk about spending money, I am talking about spending money on improving the team and squad, .
For a long time now, we have sold players for decent transfer fees, and only replaced them with either loan signings, or players who don't cost much, and these are usually picked by John Park and Peter Lawwell. That to me is not spending money
This is what the board want Ronny to go along with, they would not appoint a manager who asked for a transfer kitty.
If your idea of the board backing the manager is allowing him to employ a couple of backroom staff and buying a couple of rowing machines for Lennoxtown, then fair enough, but it is not mine.
We will just have to agree to differ on this one.

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Most of us would think P L 's bonus is excessive but at the end of the day that half million would probably pay for another loan payment . Looking at the accounts I cannot see how we can spend 4/5 millions every year on one player . Maybe our problem is not getting good quality through our academie .

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Still no straight answer then Gerry? And the old 'you know what I meant' favourite from the book of talking bullcarp. You quite clearly stated that the board hadn't spent any money and that was obviously a lie no matter how you try and dress it up. We'll know to take your posts with a pinch of salt from now on. It's nothing to do with my idea or your idea, I'm calling you out on a blatant lie you made, a lie you've spent a whole day trying to wriggle out of. Here it is again

"Anything he has done so far has not cost any money which is what the board want"

Are you sticking by your statement that the board haven't spent any money? If so then where's your proof I've provided plenty that they have so it's upto you to back up what you said with some.
P.s. You won't find any proof Gerry, the proof actually proves the opposite of your blatant and shameless lie. I think we can safely put this one to bed, no need to agree to differ on it, you said something that wasnt true, whos differing from it apart from you. Everyone else knows the club has spent money, they might not be happy with the amount or where it was spent but they know it was spent, it's only you saying it wasn't. What is there to agree to differ about except facts saying one thing and you saying different. I'm not agreeing to differ, I'll agree that you werre wrong if you're man enough to admit it.

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Stop being pedantic, you kow where gerry was coming from. The money from sales once again looks larger than money spent on players.

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{Ed007's Note - How do you know what he meant? How do you know AH knew where Gerry was coming from? We've got a psychic here now lads (and Mrs E), it's tinfoil hats on time, he knows what everyone is thinking! Why can't people just say what they mean, life would be so much easier for everyone, especially me. Why is it RD's fault that incoming money is less than what was spent, when was the last time it was any different, or didn't you mean it that way?}

Aye I was on the wind up. It's obvious we've 'spent money' Ed, no fan of any club can say they aren't spending money. Wether it be on star players or A4 paper, clubs are spending money. Gerry clearly mentions player sales, pretty easy to take from that, that he's frustrated about the reinvestment in the side or whole carry on with mostly loans in the summer. I didn't mention RD either. The biggest constraints on Celtic managers, apart from Scotland, is the way we operate. We're heading more and more for a continental approach. I think it may be a good thing. Problems do arise though - managers aren't in total control of player recruitment, tugs of war can arise and normally it's the he'd coach that gets the boot.

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If Ronny asks the board for a new desk for his office, and they give him it, is that them spending money and giving the manager their full backing?, it obviously is in your world. So I humbly apologise for misrepresenting them, I am an awful liar, and beg your forgiveness, God help me if they've bought him a box of tea bags as well.
Seen as you hate liars, maybe you could get Ronny deila to apologise for promising fast attacking football, when most of the performances have been anything but.

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You never mentioned anything about backing the manager in your original post Gerry but at least you've manned up and admitted it was a lie that you had made up and couldn't back up. Good on you but think of the time we could have saved if you had just admited it yesterday. I'd hazard a guess that Scepovic cost more than a new desk for Deila's office, as will Jim Mcguinness and Lunovs wages, the loan fees and wages paid for Guidetti, Wakaso Tonev and Denayer. Only today we're hearing the manager talking about signing Guidetti permanently. We can let it go now, I'm happy enough to be proved in the right, it grinds my gears when people make up lies about the Hoops especially when its people who are meant to be our own supporters.

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I don't need any lectures from you about supporting the club.
Yesterday I left the house at 4am and returned at 10pm, that is the lengths I go to support my team I do this every home match
last season I wrote my car off on the M6 and was lucky not to be killed, returning from the Inverness match in march. But I now have a new car and continue to drive to and from every match.
Obviously with you though I am not a true fan ss I dare to voice an opinion on how things are run.
You can sit there hurling insults at me till you are blue in the face, but watching the team over the last few years, you can see a decline in standards on the pitch there badly needs some money spent on the squad.
If it makes you happier, I will stop coming to the matches and you will have another empty seat, as you obviously don't think I am a true fan?

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Don't take this the wrong way Gerry but going with your past record of being economical with the truth I'll take all that with a pinch of salt. You see I never said you weren't a real fan or a true fan so that's just more made up lies by you, and I don't see how questioning you over something you said that isn't true is insulting you. I said I hated fans telling lies about our club even though you see yourself as some superfan and a better supporter than everyone else because you say you travel so far, you still told the lie. I didn't know it worked like that so can you explain the relevance of how far people travel to games, that's usually Zombies that I hear that from. I missed yesterdays game because the Mrs was working and our daughter was ill, does that make me a better father than you? I'm actually surprised you're old enough to drive. Reading some of your posts the other day I thought you were about 15 or 16, you seem so easily excited. I'm really only keeping this going for sh1ts and giggles now mate but you were wrong in your first post about the money (finger)
P.s. Sorry to hear about your accident Gerry I hope you've made a full recovery and are doing ok.

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{Ed007's Note - I thought the pair of you were at the wind up, it was boring the nipples off me! And all the Eds hope you're keeping well, Gerry, you've never mentioned anything about your accident before, sounds like you had a lucky escape.}

I am 54 years old and not married, so there is no doubt you are a better father than I am.
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{Ed007's Note - I don't think we need as much personal details of your life on here, Gerry, AH didn't know your situation and to be fair there was some winding up from both sides IMO. You take care of you and your family mate and if you ever need a moan or a blether about anything I'm always here and nobody else will see it or find out. God Bless, Gerry and keep your chin up.}

Gerry calm down I didn't mean you any harm or upset, I was only bamming you up but I still stick by my main point about the money. I never meant to cuase you any grief and if I have you have an apologiy no bother from me and I wasn't being sarcastic wishing you well after your accident.

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26 Oct 2014 21:24:06
3 wins in row time to get behind the team as the next 3 games are vital if we beat thistle on wed night then we are in the semi of the league cup and can forget about this competition until jan next year and a win in the league on Saturday followed by a win away to Astra we are in Europe after xmas so can concentrate on the league.

I know we are not plying the greatest at the moment but with the additional matches in Europe allowing the team to gain more experience together it is time to get behind the team and ignore the negatives I the msm who only have the agenda to promote sevco at all costs and any negative against celtic.

Remember "faithful through and through"

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26 Oct 2014 19:14:19
Ed, fellow hoops,
Has jim mc Guinness being promoted to the first team, been part of the recent revival.Ed considering wot he done with the Donegal senior footballers, it wouldn't surprise me, he's a genius.

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{Ed007's Note - McGuinness is pretty much working full-time with the first team squad. If you search for 20 Oct 2014 09:06:08 using the search function you'll see an interview he gave the other week in the thread.}

26 Oct 2014 22:52:44
Mcguiness is 1 of the reasons that GAA football can be unwatchable any one that follows GAA will know that, he's well matched with Ronny.

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27 Oct 2014 00:02:29
TTTS, he's a master tactician, he led Donegal minors to first all Ireland final in years and won first provincial title since 1995
After being promoted to seniors they won 3 of 4 Ulster titles, and competed in 2 all Ireland finals in which they won 1.that's no mean feat.Gaelic football has changed, for the worst I believe, but Jim is good @ wot he does.

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{Ed007's Note - BTW I answered your question earlier, DBB, it's on the Sevco page on here buddy.}

The Dublin media who has to please the massive Dublin population always preach about Ulster's puke football in general and McGuinness Donegal in particular . What McG has done is shown a poor mountainy county with players all over the place can beat the Dublin team that has millions upon millions poured into it to try to keep a decent percentage of Dublin people interested in GAA. The population of Co. Dublin is 25% of Ireland .
Will Mc G be able to have Celtic competing regularly with the very rich clubs in Europe . He can!

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27 Oct 2014 01:20:29
Thanks ed, was thinking it was him,seems like every crook wi a few quid.is or has been involved in the darkness.ha ha
P.S, reading recently bout that hollie greig case, thank f#ck for alternative media or we would hear nothing.

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{Ed007's Note - It's a strange one, there's certainly plenty of disinfo out there about it, from both sides.}

27 Oct 2014 01:46:19
Chris, Dublin should b split in 2 to give other countries a chance, fiance wise anyway,I really have great belief in jim,hope soon to have same belief in ronny, p's chris, could u c jim taking ar pre-Madonna footballers to recharge in the atlactic sea after a match in the middle of the winter, mite harden some of them up.lol

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Delbhoybhoy, Jimmy he had the Donegal players prepared to run through a thorny hedge, do anything that was needed to prepare for their next battle . Best man manager in any football code .
By the way I am not a Donegal man but I appreciate greatness.

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26 Oct 2014 18:41:21
Just read that Lustig played on Thursday despite his 4 week old baby being ill in hospital.
It must have taken some courage to put all thoughts of his ill baby aside for 90 minutes.
Baby is now home and recovering hope everything now well. My prayers are for continuing recovery of the baby.

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Seconded. His loyalty and commitment to Celtic has never been questioned from day one but this is above and beyond.

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Surprised you didn't have had a go at RD for picking him Tim

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26 Oct 2014 22:20:29
While I don't subribe to this" celtic minded pish", if I did, lustig would represent it. HH

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26 Oct 2014 18:23:21
season 2011/12
played-10
points-19
goal diff-+10

season 2012/13
p-10
p-20
gd-+10

season 2013/14
p-10
p-26
gd-+13

season 2014/15

p-10
p-20
gd-+15

Shocking stats for RD eh? Might it just be a fact that teams are being managed better by forward thinking young coaches who want to attack. Or are far too many Celtic fans reading the tabloids and listening to anti Celtic nonsense on phone in's?. Crowds up overall it seems in the SPL, clubs freeing themselves of huge debt burdens and playing young players.But that can't be true because we need sevco. don't fall for it.

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Green Jhedi, Delia is getting a raw deal of it. Only just in door and it's obvious the faction of support that are on his case are living in dark ages of this celtic minded pish. The stats you have provided clearly verifys this.

Your right about media and sevco. There are many contributing factors as to why attendances are low, but again I think many just like to find any excuse to blame Delia. They seems to forget that scottish game has been in steady decline past few seasons due to no old firm and to be honest a boring situation where there is no real competition for league.

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Totally agree bhoys, the stats prove its just a normal start to the season.

Anyways, I would say that given there is no Hearts, Hibs & Rangers then all the managers are no longer thinking about games they have no chance of getting points in and just going for it.

Said all along, the wheels will come off the teams sitting in the top 3 soon enough. Apart from Celtic there is not really one team that could potentially go on a 10 game winning streak.

Just think about it, if we can win while playing poorly then what will happen when it all clicks and RD has players he knows he can rely on.

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As I don't listen to radio phone ins, my friend told me today at the match that many rangers fans had expressed their concerns regarding mike Ashley on radio Clyde, weasel face keevins said it's the celtic fans who should be worrying now, whatever could he have meant, a £2 million loan and he is going to write blank cheques wishful thinking me thinks, what a sad and bitter old man.killy.

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Is the Scottish Media following the negative Celtic fans in ridiculing Deila or is it the other way round .

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26 Oct 2014 21:38:15
A lot of people sayng no hearts and hibs but what did they ever do anyway really? when is the last time hearts or hibs got a result at parkhead? they have took a few draws at home here n there and a win once in a blue moon same as any spl team but them being out the league doesn't make any difference imo both were pish in the spl

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@5 You're absolutely right, what have they done? Or any of the others for that matter. If they had put out a bit more maybe the Scotland European coefficient would be a bit better and all this three qualifying games for CL garbage would be allow our champions to progress and bring some cash in (not only to the club who are champions but the knock-on effect is good for all) Celtic have been going it alone for years.

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One was relegated because they were such a poor team . Another was penalised because they spent far more than they could ever pay back and the third one is the dark horse, availing of every possible assistance from the Scottish football governors referees etc they have made remarkable progress for a club only just over 2 year old .

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26 Oct 2014 17:28:00
Anyone no when Forrest will be back?

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26 Oct 2014 18:32:02
think he's supposed to be doing some training at the moment. think the astra game will be the one he gets the nod. there full back seemed to have the measure of mc gregor all game so forrest will prove a different problem or so I hope anyway

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26 Oct 2014 15:43:29
Was at the game today, the green brigade apart
There was no atmosphere at all. Our home
support is awful, it's not easy saying this but
it is true. Not good enough in my opinion!

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26 Oct 2014 18:06:41
Although I don't go to games any more I seem to remember the home atmosphere being consistently pretty bad on league duty. Especially minus the zombies

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26 Oct 2014 15:35:22
Nothing to get excited about but a pretty solid display nonetheless. of course the game swung on a sending off, how many of us were surprised to see blind willie collum do that, but it was entirely justified.

Scepovic is slowly starting to get his game together, some of his runs were really clever, and Guidetti looks like scoring every game he plays.Still not flowing freely enough for me but we are steadying the ship with these performances.I would like to see Matthews play right midfield with Lustig at right back, that would be interesting and should tie up other teams left sided players.

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26 Oct 2014 15:06:21
Well done bhoys
Clean sheet and 3 points
Hope this run continues.

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Notice no credit mentioned for Delia yet you feel need to give running commentary of lennon at bolton

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If you want to praise rd for today why don't you do it yourself dn30 rather than snipe at others. Personally I don't really care how NL does at Bolton but if someone wants to comment on him on a forum fair enough.

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Jim I have done nothing but be supportive of RD. I have expressed my views regularly on the situation.

Probably best you ascertain the facts before diving in with your opinion. Dabhoy and I have a disagreement regarding a certain topic from last week! Only reason lennon was mentioned

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The original post was positive which is praise for all inc manager but you put a negative slant on it. I still haven't seen you praise rd or team today.

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26 Oct 2014 19:28:59
Cheers Jim
Thought I was on a football forum

My bad.

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Im full of praise for Delia. Always have been. Since when did sarcasm become negativity?

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26 Oct 2014 15:01:29
Glad with the win today but we all need to admit that the 4 4 2 didn't provide the results everyone was expecting.

Yeah both strikers scored and yes it was even until the silly Frenchman lost the plot but we are still struggling regardless of formation.

I wonder if its down to the home fans? Are the players scared to make a mistake?

God only knows but hopefully we can keep this winning run going and keep building confidence

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I posted earlier that some players are a bit scared, the newer ones mainly, with the fact they are playing for a club expected to win every game. It was pretty obvious that when Killie went down to ten men a weight was lifted off a lot of shoulders, more so when we got our second.

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Well if it was that obvious that 4 4 2 would be a runaway success I am sure Delia would have used it earlier. Most teams have ditched but on the other hand it looks as if the two were dangerous and opened up Killie ( or was it Dundee Utd ) today .

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26 Oct 2014 21:54:12
Chris the problem is that Ronnie does not want to play 4/4/2. He wants to play his 4/2/3/1 or use just the 1 striker. He knows he needs to get Scepo some game time but I think he was not confident enough to drop Guilletti just in case it all went wrong. So the safe thing was to go 2 up front. At this time he does not have the personnel to play his system do he needs to play a system that takes that into account right now. So yes it was that obvious that playing 2, strikers would work better. Let's see if or when he goes back to his preferred formation.

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26 Oct 2014 14:59:47
Well well well! he ditches the 4-3-3 for a 4-4-2 and after taking 25mins to get used to it we never looked in doubt against the inform and defensively composed team!

Delighted RD has it in his armoury to have changed it even the substitutions made so much sense today

Scepovic is a worker for sure!

Now Ed if you could just tell me where to send the invoice for RD taking MY advice I would be much obliged mate lmao

Even the worse Ref in Scotland could not ruin a really good solid performance!

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26 Oct 2014 15:25:55
looks like scepovics goal has made the world of difference to his confidence. its almost as if after it he feels part of the team. his movement was great today and caused them lots of problems

subs were also well made particulary happy with the johansen one. just at that time I think the ref would of quite happily shown a second yellow to even things up for the silliest of fouls

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Good to see we have a striker who can move and is dangerous in the air .
Hopes this means our full backs and wing men will become more confident with their crossing .

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Jamiebhoy we scored 5 and were far more convincing in our last league game, away from home playing 1 striker! When it was 11 v 11 there wasn't much in the game today and against 10 men at parkhead for 2/3 of the match we were nothing special. So how you think after that that we have overnight turned into Real Madrid because we played 2 up front is a mystery to me. It could be argued that when the teams had even numbers that there was nothing in it, and that we need that extra man in midfield against teams. Markie

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Hi Markiebhoy, last week we played the BOTTOM of the league this week we played the 1 of the IN FORM teams

We played 4-4-1-1 last week 4-4-2 today!

Against St Mirren and Astra he had to change from 4-3-3 to get both goals and results!

Not a fan of the 4-3-3 a think a have made that very very clear! Have no issue playing 4-4-1-1

Where you get the Real Madrid reference am not quite sure mate? Maybe you should stay aff the REAL . WINE GUMS?

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No need to get personal. And there isn't a lot between Ross county and killie compared to how we played against both teams and how many goals we scored, and considering we were also at home against killie. Not sure where you decided we were playing 4-4-1-1 (maybe read it in the sun) was 4-2-3-1 although it's irrelivant as it was still 1 striker and niether were the 4-3-3 you hate so much. As I say if playing 2 strikers up front was the way to go then how come it's gone out with the arc? At any level in every country tell me how many successfull teams play this ancient system? Football has changed, football has moved on and systems have, Gordon strachan a great celtic manager nearly always played 4-4-2 when at celtic. He doesn't use it now and was quoted as saying it doesn't really work now in modern football. By the way I don't drink. Another thing I think important is if we play 2 strikers we lose one man in midfield. Most teams play 5 in midfield and with the lack of quality we have there (brown excluded) we will struggle to control games and your 2 strikers won't be getting any service anyway. Killmarnocks midfield at best were the equal of ours for the first 25 mins on sat, at worst for us they were better, only a sending of and us having a man more brought us into the ascendancy. By the way I love your statement 'after 25 minutes when we got used to the system' 4-4-2 worked great' conveniently not mentioning it was anything to do with them going down to ten men on a big parkhead pitch. We are not good enough sadly to play 4 against 5 in midfield against anyone in the SPL, sad but true I'm afraid. Markie

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{Ed007's Note - I'm with you, Markie, 4-4-2 is outdated now and far too easy to play against. I keep saying that RD is trying to get the balance right between domestic and European football so that we can stop having to make drastic changes when we are playing in Europe. We should be using a 4-5-1 when defending and switching to 4-2-3-1 when in possession and on the attack, it's an easy enough transition to make mid-game. You should have a mess about with our team/formation creator app if you're into that side of the game, you can link your set-up into your posts to explain what you're meaning.}

Thanks Edd yeh I'll have a look at that! Markie

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26 Oct 2014 14:59:34
Just noticed that three people on here have voted NO to the club paying the living wage. WTF! I'd no idea Peter Lawell, Dermot Desmond & Montgomery Burns were readers of this forum lol

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Nice one M8

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28 Oct 2014 10:52:02
Archibauld, why should we pay the "Living Wage", I am on Minimum wage and that's just the way it is. If everyone got the Living Wage would not take long for tax and prices to go up everywhere. Givith with one hand and Taketh away with the other. Hail Hail

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26 Oct 2014 03:40:09
Just been reading in the MSM about celtic not paying a living wage etc. Ed, being a fountain of knowledge, what about other clubs and what they (one club in particular across the city). Is Celtic the only club in Scotland doing this? I'm not defending the action but I only see one club mentioned.

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{Ed007's Note - Some CFC fans are the only ones I know of who are trying to get their club to pay the Living Wage. Can I ask why you're not defending the action?}

Ed, post misread. When I said not defending the action, I actually meant not defending the action of not paying a living wage. If we can afford to pay bonuses as we do then we should be paying the people who are the backbone of the club and without whom, the system would break down. My point was really about who else does this.

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{Ed007's Note - Ah right fair play, I wasn't sure what you were meaning. We would become the only British club committed to paying a living wage (£8.80 per hour in London and £7.65 in the rest of the UK), that doesn't mean there aren't clubs paying employees more than the minimum wage or even more than the Living Wage it is just they aren't publicising it or committing to being part of the Living Wage Foundation or the like. There has been a campaign going on in England for about 7/8 years to get all clubs to commit to paying the Living Wage, there's some interesting reading here and I'm sure there are people in the comments section who discuss their wages at clubs.}

It's a bloody disgrace we do not pay a living wage.Have these people, supposedly Celtic people like ourselves, forgotten our roots? When they walk into the stadium they should be looking to Walfrid and remembering what he started this great club for.

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Is it not the case Ed that only ONE club in Britain actually pay it?

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{Ed007's Note - FC United of Manchester pay a living wage but they are only a semi-professional club, Man City also pay the Living Wage to apprentices but nobody else like retail staff etc.}

tv news did a piece the other evening on the living wage and celtic were the club in question after speaking to someone who raised the issue. The reporter stated that only one club in British football pay the living wage and that club was city of Manchester fc.killy.

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Before I get pelters Ed maybe 002 could guide us a think that is essential we start to pay the living wage to ALL full time staff! . The part time staff who only do 4 or 5 hours over "matchday" I think fall into the category of like "pub / hospitality " and am not so sure tbh , but if we gave it to the FT Staff does that leave us open to a claim/legal action from the PT staff?


The sad part is most of these " hospitality " staff are agency based so we are probably paying that rate anyway I know this from personal experience of having corporate facs at the club

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{Ed007's Note - It would be across the board, Jamie including matchday stewards etc. It would also mean all sub-contractors would need to adhere to it.}

As ever Ed thanks for clearing up, would love to see it happen but with dwindling gates not sure it will

How ironic that PL's BONUS! FFS would just about cover the expenditure!

ATVB JB7

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26 Oct 2014 11:09:44
Morning all. Another match day and another test for RD and his squad. I would think that after Scepovic getting on the score sheet we may well play with two up top. Question is who? Will Commons or Guidetti get the nod or will RD shape the team to accommodate all three?

The tricky aspect is that killie, by all accounts playing with confidence and organisation, will be aware of the areas we seem to be struggling in.I would imagine this will be pretty much a rerun of the Accies game, they will sit in and try to break quickly and with sharp passing to move our defence around.But surely we will be ready for this given the result in the Hamilton game.If this is indeed the way they will play, will there be a place for Commons?

To accommodate him I would stiffen the midfield and tell the full backs not to be so keen to bomb forward, one at a time will do with the non attacking flank full back pushing no further than halfway. This would let Johanson play more like he played v Ross County, forward and slipping passes in to runners.It would also ensure we are not left with only two defenders chasing three attackers, something we have been caught out at a few times.

I would also start with Kayal.Mulgrew cannot be trusted, his habit for looking for the hollywood ball is too costly in my opinion. It's a tricky team to line up today and a big test for RD as the snipers are loading the guns.One thing is for sure we have to start the way we finished in midweek.We have to be aggressive and push them them from minute one.I would assume they will fill the midfield so is that a 4-4-2 we have to go with? As I said, this is a big game for us and RD so let's get right behind them.

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26 Oct 2014 12:53:38
Just seen team sheet. Looks like a 4/4/2 and if that is the case we will have no worries. Scepovic and Guilletti both up front. How it had taken him this long to work it out is beyond belief. This is all he needed to do from the start.

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Could have typed that johnnymac well said atvb jb7

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26 Oct 2014 10:47:31
There comes a time when we have to take off the green tinted glasses and realise this so called manager is a puppet/muppet and get rid it pains me to say but we are rubbish

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So you don't blame any of the players? Does RD give the shockingly bad passes that release teams to pressure us? Does RD lose men when we are being attacked? Ronny is the easy target, you are entitled to your opinion but it is a bit too early to be writing him off surely?

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26 Oct 2014 15:20:23
personally I would be gutted if we got rid cause I think he will be a top manager and to transform a team/squad/club takes time, not just a couple months

7 points in europa league, a game in hand to go top of spl. cup game on wednesday yea sure why not sack him and get coyle in (yes I know you didn't say coyle but worst case scenario and a very possible one)

we create chances or do you just check the scores and not bother watching? as gj says isn't his fault slack passing gives the opposition momentum to attack no more so than on thursday night

last year around this time we had our clean sheet run and during that time we went 6/7 1 nil wins in a row playing sh!t and not even looking like scoring and it was efe took the criticism of everyone and now cause our players can't pass its the manager some are wanting rid of

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@KB - far too much was made of this unbeaten run and clean sheet records. I really like RD and hope he succeeds in transforming Celtic in every way.

I would prefer a record winning streak with goals galore and some fine football along they way.

As for last year we had no real competition and heavily relied upon the defence and keeper to keep most of them 1 nil victories. Its not as if we dominated games, on more than a few occasions we were extremely lucky add that to the poor finishing from our opposition.

This year, the performances have not been great but overall we are still in 4 competitions. The Europa League for me was all about gaining the experience and I am happy with the fact that if we win our next game, it could potentially get us through.

I am well hoping RD gives us all a Treble, especially for the fans that are making the effort to get to the games this year.

P.S - for the record, I have not been to any game this year.

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