Celtic Banter Archive March 26 2021

26 Mar 2021 22:52:44
Hey all, posted on this site years ago but read it almost everyday, first of all just want to say thanks to Ed007 and all the other Ed's for their hard work, it's great to see how the website has grown over the past 10 years.

Secondly I hope each and every one of yous are safe and well and the same to your families and friends

This isn't a rumour just my personal opinion

Brown is definitely up there with the greats, you hear the term legend loosely used but that fella is a legend, best of luck to him I say.

I know it appears that we are close to a new manager but I would have loved Julian Nagelsmann, been following him since he was at Hoffenheim. His playing career was cut short by injuries so he went and did his coaching badges as well as sports science and business administration. He is only 33 years old and has transformed every team he has been at. He is now the Leipzig manager and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being either in the EPL or at Bayern in the near future. I think he would have made an amazing Celtic manager.

My lady is a massive hoops fan and I love them too but I support the Gunners, yous should have seen the look we got when KT moved to us. We where coming back from a wee stay at Dundee, she had her Hoops top on and I had my Arsenal top on. The train conductor asked if I was feeling safe lol, anyway he has been amazing for us thanks folks and I have no doubt he will return to wear the famous Hoops again,

Cheers for reading and stay safe :)

26 Mar 2021 23:13:46
Welcome Richy, great post mate. HH.

27 Mar 2021 21:50:46
bestbhoy, many thanks chief :)

26 Mar 2021 22:09:00
Discussion earlier about the rumour Lewis Ferguson on his way. Some for it and some against. But some posters saying no way will he get into our midfield. We have calmac, soro and Turnbull. Troops we ain't winning anything with 3 midfielders. We need another 4 to compete with CM, DT and IS. We need to replace Brown- and that ain't with Soro! We need to replace ntcham, and get shot of rogic and Christie. So if lewis Ferguson is coming, get him in and let's work on another 3 centre mids. Hate to say it but they have 6 or 7 midfielders that come in and out of team and midfield is still strong.

26 Mar 2021 23:27:00
At this moment in time Soro is playing better than Brown. Wealso have Shaw coming in the summer.

26 Mar 2021 23:13:23
Ferguson and Soro both put themselves about and pick up plenty of bookings.
Similar to a younger Scott Brown.
The older and more experienced they get, the wiser they will become.

27 Mar 2021 00:40:28
Great point Buzz. These young lads have all the potential we need and I think Ferguson would be a tremendous long term acquisition. Both of them have all the natural ability to become true legends at Paradise if the next manager can realise and develop their potential.
The young Broony was a bit of a tearaway on the pitch but my goodness, didn't he mellow like an exceptionally fine wine?
Damn it, I'm going to miss him big time! HH.

27 Mar 2021 07:04:45
Personally I've always thought Ferguson could play and he's maturing, getting game time and will be an asset in the future.

We need a squad of players, how many times this season have we looked to the bench and it's thread bare?

I'd go for Ferguson and Campbell from Motherwell.

27 Mar 2021 07:53:57
No one has answered this yet.

How much do you think he would cost if they wanted 5 million for mckenna?


Would you play ferguson ahead of mcgregor, soro or turnbull?

Personally i think they would want a similar fee and is not as good as the three players i mentioned, which would make him an expensive bench warmer.

27 Mar 2021 13:28:35
At celtic Ferguson would get booed sent of most games from the honest mistake mob hh.

26 Mar 2021 17:23:32
Was reading something there about turning season ticket refunds into shares? Anyone know what that's about? As far as am concerned the club can have my money not wanting a refund but am interested in what that's about any info would be appreciated.

26 Mar 2021 17:50:04
It is a group of Celtic fans who are trying to put the club into fan ownership.

26 Mar 2021 17:51:03
Have a look at Celtic shared on twitter mate.

26 Mar 2021 18:09:31
Thanks will do.

26 Mar 2021 14:39:21
3 bookies now going betting on next manager again with Keane 1/2.
Now bookies aren't renowned for giving away money and given that Benitez was previously as low as 1/9 in the betting, I don't think the appointment of Keane is a guaranteed thing like a lot of people are saying.

26 Mar 2021 16:36:09
I really hope its not Keane I love him as a pundit he is so blunt with the truth or as he sees it he was great as a player. But he hasn't been a great manager or even a good one IMO and that is what we need a great or atleast a good manager not a publicity stunt some one that can build the full club and structure up fast a good DoF and manager will do that next season is a automatic pass into the CL we can't throw that away with just publicity.

26 Mar 2021 17:06:25
Sunderland. won 42 drew 17 lost 41
Ipswich . won 28 drew 25 lost 28.

{Ed007's Note - He took over Sunderland sitting 2nd bottom of the Championship and won the league & promotion to the Pub League that same year, he was doing well at Sunderland until the problems with Ellis Short started - they still haven't recovered from that time.
Remember as well it was Niall Quinn that was their Chairman at the time and there was no love lost between him and Keane but Quinn rated him as a manager and put that to one side.
Keane's win percentage at Sunderland hasn't been bettered since (apart from Lee Johnson just now) and that includes guys like Bruce, MON, Advocaat, Di Canio, Moyes etc etc.}

26 Mar 2021 17:32:05
Where do you sit with the possible Keane appointment Ed? If it’s to be him I hope it’s sorted soon so he can look at players for next year and get his team sorted . I feel time is of the essence now due to so many leaving.

{Ed007's Note - I'm nor exactly overwhelmed by the prospect but as I 've said elsewhere the appointment of his coaching staff will be crucial if it is to be Keane.}

26 Mar 2021 18:20:56
think he also beat Newcastle at home or something first time in 28 year. people on here are screaming out for wilder and howe who roy keane has matched in achievements in a shorter spell.

i don't know how i feel about keane a small part of me is hoping it is him and he smashes it. as ed says it all down to who he brings with him. i will get behind him 100 percent if he gets the job.

26 Mar 2021 18:21:50
You forgot to add that he hasn't been a manager in 10 years Yes he has been an assistant since then but not a manager. with those credentials would he really be a good fit for the job? Are you really saying that more experienced and modern managers have not expressed a interest for the job? ( I don't know who has asked about it) Or is it because he is Irish and played for us in his latter years?

26 Mar 2021 18:55:41
Plus DRB % 50 win %50 loss is not encouraging to me we will be lucky to be in the top 6 with those figures.

26 Mar 2021 19:57:55
tony keane is definitely not my first choice and its nothing to do with him being Irish or played for us. im just stating facts if people are going to slander him for the negatives at least add his positives to. if your going to go by win percentage to tony then lenny has one of the best win percentages as Celtic manager yet fans hounded him out the club. and as for experience roy keane is one of the most experienced in the game at the elite level. been there and done it at every level

people are shouting for maresca and a bet not one of us have even seen his under 23 side play just know he plays attacking football. so did mad pedro and that's why the sevies took him and look how that worked out. tbh i do not know who would be the perfect manager.

if its keane i will get behind him like every celtic fan should as he will be the manager of our club.

{Ed007's Note - MON - Irish, Brendan Rodgers - Irish, Neil Lennon - Irish if you're holding someone's nationality against them, well do we really need to go into that? Maybe we wouldn't have had any of them as manager if they weren't Irish or Celtic supporters, sometimes the emotional pull gives us an advantage but it looks like only when it suits differing opinions whether it's an advantage.
Ffs there's people want Larsson to get the job!!
Can anyone can give me 1 reason that can back up why Maresca should get the job? I've never seen City's under 23s play and from that to the Celtic job is massive, why is Maresca more qualified or a better option than Keane? He's never managed a first team dressing room and squad let alone everything that would come his way as Celtic manager.}

26 Mar 2021 22:30:49
I am not intentionally trying to say because he is Irish I was trying to say we don't have to go with some one with a connection with the club we can go out of the box and as I have said I really really like Keane but I don't think he is the man for the job.

{Ed007's Note - I totally agree, Tony but if he is going to be appointed let's see what the bigger picture is, with the right DOF and coaches it could prove to be a masterstroke. I don't know why people seem to think I'm all for Keane being appointed but the way folk are going on about him is already beyond ridiculous.

26 Mar 2021 22:31:02
In the space of a few hours Keane's odds on being next manager have drifted from 1-2 to 2-1.
It's all guesswork at the moment which is good as the confidential matters are being kept exactly that, "confidential"

26 Mar 2021 23:02:19
As has been said here if Keane is appointed it's the backroom team which is key. If he has the right people behind him it could work. I couldn't see Keane allowing some of the rubbish and nonsense behaviour by some players this season. Plus he will demand he brings in his own people for his backroom staff. Which was a major error Lennon made. But if it is Keane l will give him my full back. Have to agree l think it's a bit strange people think an u23 coach/ manager is right choice. Only time will tell what happens. Well done ed too on the podcast 👍.

26 Mar 2021 14:11:45
Maresca and Harkin make the most sense for me. Both worked alongside eachother for the past year at City.

26 Mar 2021 13:31:02
Can't believe the amount on supporters with their knickers in a twist over Roy Keane potentially being appointed.

So what if he demands 110% from players.

When did it become a crime to raise your voice in a dressing room?

Is football really that soft these days?

McGregor, Turnbull, Soro could flourish under the guidance of someone like Keane and he'd probably force out the deadwood who clearly are not putting the effort in, Griffiths, Ntcham etc.

I'd be happy if he came in and built a team of men like o'neill did rather than stupid wee boys who think they have made it by age 22.

He may be one of 4 or 5 candidates interviewed.

Keane is a winner and will raise the standards throughout the club that Lennon let drop through his tenure.

Whoever gets the job the fans need to get behind them and support the team. Talk of booing a new manager on day one or having eggs at the ready shows you the bratty mentality of so called fans who are probably not old enough to remember the dark days or who only bought season tickets towards the back end of going for 10IAR. I listen to asses like this on a weekly basis in work and its nothing short of embarrassing, some of them you can count on one hand the number of times they've ever been to a game.

26 Mar 2021 14:05:13
Great post. I'm a bit torn about Keane tbh but one thing is certain and that's he's a professional and will expect the same from his players which can't be a bad thing.

26 Mar 2021 14:14:54
Spot on.

26 Mar 2021 14:37:03
I think you are basing that hope rather than past experience.

26 Mar 2021 15:09:00
LAW you need to get a Bovril with JFP 🤣 😂 😆.

26 Mar 2021 15:37:22
I am going to need something stronger than a Bovril. :D.

26 Mar 2021 17:16:22
Del you can’t tell me he is the best man for the job . What’s wrong with wanting the best of the best to be our manager is that not allowed. If Keane wasn’t a Celtic fan no one would want him as his record isn’t great and hasn’t managed in 10 years . If Keane is the man I think it would just be the same as Lennon all over again .

26 Mar 2021 18:43:51
Mick within our reach I don't see many better candidates.

The weight of expectation at Celtic is massive. Keane knows this and will handle it and will slap down the main strem media up here as well. I fear other inexperienced manager would crumble if they didn't get off to a good start.

Its easy for clubs like Arsenal or Gladbach to take punts on coaches like Arteta or Xabi Alonso in the hope of they are the next Pep. They are protected by the income generated by the league they play in and their fans accept mediocrity. This is not an option for Celtic. The expectation for us is to win every game.

Fans dream of managers like Benitez, Martinez or Rangnick but in reality they will never be attracted to manage in Scotland. These guys have recently turned down the likes of AC Milan and Chelsea. What would attract them to the west coast of Scotland?

If its Keane the backroom setup will be key. Maybe Harkin will come in and bring a load of staff from Man City, maybe with Maresca as no.2? Who knows.

26 Mar 2021 21:16:41
Best guys for the job would be coaches with a philosophy and vision. Guys like Marche, Howe. But we won’t attract them to Scotland as they will be waiting on the perfect job. Other managers like Clark don’t really give you that excited feeling. Maybe we do need a Roy Keane in there to shake it up, to be strong with some, to fire off some home truths. He achieved so much in the game as a player and knows his stuff as a pundit. And if MON thinks he would be a great manager for us, I’d go with that rather than an untried youth coach.

26 Mar 2021 21:21:54
I haven’t been to a game doesn’t make me any less of a supporter or that my opinion matters any less than yours del Bhoy we are all Celtic if Keane was any good heed have had a job instead of ten years as a pundit it might work for him at Celtic but I highly doubt.

{Ed007's Note - It doesn't matter how many games you've been to, as long as you're a Celtic supporter - and not LAW or JFP - you're allowed an opinion. That stuff does my nut in, Frank, I've not been to a game for about 8(?) years and nobody's shutting me up lol.}

26 Mar 2021 22:13:54
It’s what makes our club great im from jersey in the Channel Islands my dad is a jock he raised me to love the club and told me what it was to be a Celtic fan we are loved all over the world I have met people from all over the world who love Celtic I even met a guy from chile who could barely speak any English he seen ma top and went nuts he’d never seen a Celtic game but loves Celtic as much as me and all our fans we are one club one history it doesn’t matter who the manager is I will still support my team no matter what.

27 Mar 2021 00:05:43
Frank you seem like a football man and my post isn't aimed at guys like you at all. I'm not just talking about a hoops game mate, I'm talking about any football game. Guys who have never played the game or don't really watch it (any game, league or level) . I know guys who latch on to Celtic as an excuse to go to the pub. They believe everything they see in the rags or on twitter. When I hear them speak I don't value their opinion. That's why I'm on the page most days reading. Apart from one or two posters this site has been quality reading for years. I'm hoping the podcast takes off as I will get involved in that as well where I can around work.

I gave up a season ticket years ago due to financial reasons. I don't go to many games these days either and I don't believe that makes me any less of a fan for not doing so.

By the way, if you look in to Roy Keane you'll see he's not exactly been sitting in the sky studio for the past 10 years. I'm sure in 5 years working with a martin O'Neill he's learned a thing or two.

27 Mar 2021 07:38:39
MON who I love and respect for what he did at Celtic but is outdated as the Nottingham forest fans saw and his spell with Ireland wasn’t exactly great either it should be a forward thinking coach with fresh ideas who can galvinise the players we saw what happened when Lennon called them out and threw them under the bus that style of management doesn’t work in modern football.

26 Mar 2021 13:07:52
On a more serious note I think the board are taking the fans for granted and do not realise the extent of the backlash of appointing an unpopular manager will have on season book sales.

This season, a lot of fans forked out their hard earned cash on season tickets, despite having some reservations regarding the board, the manager and the recruitment. However, if we had not been going for 10 in a row, I suspect there would have been less season ticket sales.

Now with the anger and dejection of not achieving 10 in a row, still fresh in our mind. I suspect the wrong managerial appointment will have huge ramifications. The reason I say that is because it will only reinforce what many fans thought at the start of this season. However, this time the carrot of 10 in a row won't be there to entice people.

So hope the board realise just how important getting the right manager in is going to be to get fans back on side.

26 Mar 2021 13:20:36
The problem there LAW if you give up your season ticket someone on the 17000 waiting list will just take yours. I will keep mines and am sure more will be with me than with you.

26 Mar 2021 13:25:11
LAW, who is the 'right' manager?
What appointment can we make that will keep everyone happy?
Even the most unpopular choice will quickly become a fan icon if he's winning games. Every name that has been mentioned so far has drawn comments of approval or rejection from fans on this site alone, never mind the wider fanbase.
It's a big job and it'll need a strong character to fill it and the likes of Keane is certainly that. He has flaws too.
Wilder has drawn equal amounts of praise and criticism. Apparently he's not up to it in the eyes of some.
Steve Clarke is another one. Just this morning he's being lambasted after last night's international yet some fans think he is the obvious choice.
Maresca at Man City's U23's is supposedly a terrific fellow in the eyes of some fans and not experienced in the eyes of others.
Benitez was never an option.
Rangnick gets equal praise and criticism.
Jindřich Tripišovský at Slavia Prague has been mentioned by some fans too but has been dismissed by others.
I could go on and on but there's a common theme running alongside every name that has been mentioned.

What is the right answer? HH.

26 Mar 2021 13:26:37
How many fans do you think will be allowed in the stadium in August?

26 Mar 2021 13:26:53
That is entirely your choice but as history has proven, that waiting list dwindles quick when fans don't like what is getting served up.

Everyone who bought season tickets this season has been short changed with an inferior TV subscription, although in hindsight many of us were glad when the stream didn't work as the football on display was that bad.

26 Mar 2021 13:37:27
Give it a break LAW. We get that you don’t want Keane but you don’t speak for all Celtic fans. I, like you and many others, have dearly missed watching our team and whoever is in the dugout will get my full support whether he was my choice or not. Celtic have always done better when there is unity. What I will say is that we would not see some of the pansies performing as they were last year under Keane. If he’s our man, let’s get behind him.

26 Mar 2021 13:43:03
Only time will tell its everyone's own choice but if we want the club to get better and improve we will need the fans on side.

26 Mar 2021 13:44:18
I can see it being another full season without fans as C.V. ain't going away anytime soon.

Bestybhoy, I agree that there is probably very few managers we could appoint that would keep everyone happy. However, I am seeing very little desire from fans for Keane to be given the job.

26 Mar 2021 14:02:03
LAW, I respect your opinion. I feel your pain. We all do.
Everyone's in the same boat but being so anti-Keane is not the reaction I would go with at this stage. If it is him and he delivers the league or even the Treble next season with good football and an assembled team of hungry and driven players will you still have the same view when the season finishes?
Football fans are a fickle bunch no matter what club they support. I wouldn't say Keane is my first choice but like I've said before if he can keep his positive qualities and control his outbursts then he really could be a masterstroke of an appointment. No one knows so it doesn't help to kill the guy in public when he hasn't even been appointed and may never be.
One thing that has become clear is that the club made a mistake in creating the environment that made Rodgers want to leave. His timing was unpalatable to most fans and it'll live long in our memories but if the rumours are to be believed about why he left then perhaps he did make the right decision. The club do need to up their game now, it's going to be a massive call and all we can do for now is hope that they don't get it wrong. HH.

26 Mar 2021 14:07:04
Law, can I ask who you would realistically want? Martinez isn’t leaving the number 1 ranked team in the world with the euros and World Cup coming up . So a realistic option who would you fancy? As it’s obviously not Keane . I initially didn’t want him and he probably wouldn’t be my first choice but I can definitely see positives in him, especially with him supposedly having desmonds ear, I can see him possibly getting more funds than most .

26 Mar 2021 13:59:12
We should be back into stadium for start of season if this vax works as they say.

26 Mar 2021 14:12:58
3rd wave in the post. Can't see any fans back in August. Hope I'm. wring but the odds are in favour of another utter balls up.

26 Mar 2021 14:14:39
I’m sitting on the fence this time about our next managerial appointment because I had enough to say when I backed Lennon and I admit I got that wrong.

26 Mar 2021 14:45:43
@Quinn, I would like us to go for Roberto De Zerbi if we want attacking football and Diego Martínez Penas if we want a more defensive approach.

26 Mar 2021 14:48:04
Wouldn't say you got it wrong buzz as we did win next 5 trophies. This season has had many contributing faults and no one thing is to blame, from being desperate to claim 9, to players not fit, to players not wanting to be here, recruitment wrong and fans forcing board to dig heels in along with manager not handling it well and not having his own backroom team etc🙄.

26 Mar 2021 15:02:13
@Besty, I am not anti-keane as a person, pundit, player or manager.

I am only against him being our next manager as I do not think he will do well at the job.

The reason I have been so vocal is because I think it will just lead to a repeat of what we had witnessed this season and it is going to cause a lot of friction between the fans and the board.

Like you say we need unity at this time but that unity is only going to happen if Celtic appoint the right manager to get us to unite behind.

26 Mar 2021 15:24:56
I'm not sure about Keane.
But then I'm thinking our fitness level dropped with Lenny and his coaching staff maybe Keane would fix this. A few Celtic players think they are better than they are maybe Keane could sort out the entitled.
I still think we have a gd team but still missing spark and playing together.

26 Mar 2021 12:39:20
Re keane if indeed he is the man for dd why isn't he here yet (or replacing lenny at christmas) . no club no hurdles? is he on any sky contract that could be holding up any announcement . an aside . can't get good quality podcast it's all reverb and echo was there a problem on podcast or ist it my pc?

{Ed007's Note - It was a problem at our end, DRB but should be fine from now on.}

26 Mar 2021 11:32:46
Broony leaving, Keano coming in?
Is our captain's decision to leave fuelled by a lack of interest in working with the latter?
Just a thought. HH.

26 Mar 2021 11:51:36
Besty

No idea but i beat you to the thought. If Keane was coming in and I’d been Broonie id have fecked off as well never mind the opportunity Aberdeen have given him.

At his stage of his career after all he’s achieved he could probably be doing without somebody shouting in his ear especially if that mans CV suggests he has no right to be near Parkhead as manager.

After buying the rodents bollocks and this season’s efforts Keane might have been a step to far.

26 Mar 2021 12:02:35
Hi Besty, I genuinely don't think think so when you consider the various managers that Scott's worked under over the past 14yrs at Celtic.

I believe it's more a combination of;-
* timing (end of contract) especially after the season we've had
* the player/ coach offer from Aberdeen
* taking the next step towards a career in coaching.

26 Mar 2021 12:22:02
Pedro, perhaps you are right. It was simply a thought that came into my mind and I think I read something similar elsewhere very recently. It could have been a previous JFP post, I really can't remember.
It may be that Broony realises he can't offer what's needed in the future to the level he has always delivered in the past, and the last thing he needs is a screamer in his ear telling him he's off the pace or whatever else and that fact could be what has pressed him into looking for an alternative way to work at the highest level he can.
I'm disappointed he's leaving but as with everything in life the good times can't last forever for anyone. He'll be missed by the fans and everyone at the club. He never caused any problems, he has been a true professional from day one and any fanbase or club would miss a player who gave so much to their cause. HH.

26 Mar 2021 13:51:48
Best I'm rarely right (just ask my missus) but I share your sentiments regarding Scott, superb professional.

Going forward I hope we can unearth one or two players with even half the bottle and commitment he demonstrated.

HH.

26 Mar 2021 13:52:05
Pedro Betsy

I think we’re saying the same thing effectively either way Scott Brown is a massive loss we agree and there is no natural replacement currently at the club.

26 Mar 2021 10:48:36
Here is what Desmond said recently:

As with any key appointment at Celtic, there is a process which involves research, investigation, interviewing and negotiation.

It would appear the skipped the research and investigation if they even gave Roy Keane an interview, never mind the job.

26 Mar 2021 11:25:45
Heres the full transcript of the Keane interview.

DD: When can you start my old mucker?

Roy: Next week.

DD: Brilliant.

Ends.

26 Mar 2021 11:47:27
And skipped that whole process when handing Lennon the job in the shower too. If he had used that process beforehand we wouldn't be in the position we find ourselves in this season.

26 Mar 2021 07:24:01
Well ED 007 one of the two stories coming out this week has came true is it going to be two for two soon? Dun dun dunnnn!

26 Mar 2021 09:16:04
with scott brown going to aberdeen do you think he could take a celtic player or two with him. could see griff up there on loan next season banging them in. dons could be a strong team next season. good that they hate the sevies just as much as us.

26 Mar 2021 10:06:32
UI

Can’t see Griffiths being allowed to go on loan to one of our main rival who have just been strengthened by recruiting our captain where he could damage us plus at his age and with his history I think if he goes it will be for good.

26 Mar 2021 10:45:25
could see broony taking a few people up there with him JFP.

26 Mar 2021 11:12:44
I'd be happy to see the back of LG, he's had his time and plenty of chances, sell him and move on.

We need fit players who want to give 100% to this club.

26 Mar 2021 11:56:10
Griffiths only has a year left on his deal and doesn't look like getting a new one. If he is loaned out for the remainder of his contract then he won't be able to play against us anyway next season. But we should be trying to use him as a bargaining tool for another player of interest.

{Ed007's Note - Who would you take from say Hibs or Aberdeen? Ferguson from Aberdeen? Doig, Porteous or Nesbitt from Hibs?}

29 Mar 2021 23:40:16
Either of those mentioned Ed as they're the pick of the bunch. A free loan of Griff plus a few mill for Nesbitt and Doig while loaning Doig back for a season to continue developing isn't a bad deal for Hibs. Ferguson is another we shouldn't let slip through the net either. People on here saying he is nothing but a dirty player. He's just young and daft, Broony was the same arpund that age and that never stopped him maturing into the fine captain he's been for this club.

{Ed007's Note - 👍