Celtic Banter Archive January 26 2016

26 Jan 2016 22:15:43
Ed, anything in the rumour that we are still in the hunt to sign Michael O'Halloran?

{Ed007's Note - I'm not convinced we've ever been in for him.}

26 Jan 2016 23:18:23
Firstly, I didn't think we were in for him, but he may offer more of a goal threat than Ciftci, Cole or even the unreliable Forrest?
The standard of player we are linked with and indeed have pursued in recent years are obviously lower than a few years back, but there is the chance, players will develop and improve given the facilities and proper coaching at the biggest club in Scotland?
There is also the matter of interest from Govan and I know that's no reason to sign a player; but a wee voice is telling me -if the shoe was on the other foot - they would be in there like a shot.

26 Jan 2016 21:01:15
What is going on with our club! I can't for the life of me understand why we are signing an 18 year old winger for 6 months! Why the hell do we need another midfielder? Brown, Biton, Johansen, Commons, Rogic, Armstrong, McGregor, GMS, Allan, Forrest (and that's just off the top of my head) why do we need this kid for 6 months, completely baffles me! Also what kind of message does that send to Aiden Nesbitt? The boy has been going great in the youth team and on the verge of first team but now the club would rather sign an 18 year old from man city than give him a go in the team! RD said last month that he was looking to sign experienced players and also didn't want to bring any players on loan as it's no good to Celtic when the players return to their clubs! I think he's being made to look a laughing stock by the powers that be!

26 Jan 2016 21:24:54
Is this actually happened?, this must be the craziest thing evr, an 18 month loan would make some sense, but 6 months just does not make sense.

26 Jan 2016 21:25:58
Maybe we have an agreement with Man city for blooding in there fringe players? Only reason I could think of otherwise its crazy to me.

26 Jan 2016 22:06:05
Tony, that's the conclusion I am coming to, what other reason can there be.

26 Jan 2016 22:26:36
Not too keen on this either, I was hoping to see Nesbitt get a chance. Here's a thought though. what if its a case of a six month loan to see if he could make the grade and settle in then in the summer he comes back on a season long loan if he's thought good enough to make an impact on the champions league for us?

27 Jan 2016 00:43:51
Another thing to think about is this! Next week is the beginning of February and the season finishes in mid May so it's actually only 3 and a half months tops.

27 Jan 2016 03:38:14
If he comes in and helps ua win a treble then fair enough, but there's no reason one of our own young attacking players couldn't do that.

27 Jan 2016 10:40:19
Ice man you've just listed several central midfielders and only 2 of them out and out wingers who are the only 2 we have at the club. IMO we are really crying out for a winger as we are playing central midfielders out of postion and against better opposition we are severly lacking width and speed as a result. I was hopeing for the boy from Molde tbh (cracking player) . Molde are apparently not willing to sell until the summer and although it's very wishful thinking. I'm hoping that Roberts will be used as a stop gap until then and then we can hopefully get our man. Being reported today that the lad Roberts is till end of the season and then we have the choice of extending it. If he does well brilliant he is a quality that if we were to sign him outright we would be lucky to hold on to him for longer than a year and half anyways. it strenghens our relationship with City (who can provide us with players well above our reach) and we still could potentially sign the Molde winger in the summer. I don't think this is as bad as people are making out. Before the window I said I'd be happy with a CB and a winger that could walk into the team and it seems we now have that.

26 Jan 2016 17:54:34
No more loans, we celtic need to buy a couple of young Scottish talent. The 2 I like are Spittal, of Dundee Utd and Mikey Ohalloran up at St Johnstone. i'm sure Celtic will sign Mikey. at the end of the week, I'm sure he is not interested in signing for Sevco.

{Ed007's Note - O'Halloran's nowhere near the quality we should be looking at. He's no better than players we should be getting rid of, in fact he's worse, there is not one single player in our first team squad he's better than and if our youngsters aren't better we'd be better just shutting the academy.
The only plus point in CFC signing O'Halloran is that the Zombies would be raging.}

26 Jan 2016 18:30:41
That's what worries me Ed our ambition becomes to sign anyone/ everyone that marginally improves Sevco :-s

Agreed O'Halloran not good enough we already gave him away would only stifle young Nesbitt IMO

Surely we are not going to start moving for anyone to eclipse Sevco?

26 Jan 2016 18:40:00
Upsetting the zombies is not a good enough reason. I think it's all getting stupid now. We are only buying players that we feel we can make a profit by selling them on. There is no strategy to build a team. It's a squad full of inexperienced but promising youngsters who the board want to sell as soon as someone makes an offer. We are buying players who won't even get in the side. Look at the carton Cole deal. Another stupid signing. It's just going to pot.

26 Jan 2016 19:33:00
I hope any signings we do make are done to actually improve us. For too long now we just seem to bring in mediocre players in the vain hope that one of them will earn a lot of money for the club.
According to what some posters have been saying, O'Halloran is a Celtic fan, he is supposed to have family members who are either season ticket holders, or work at Celtic park.
If this is true, then how could he even think of joining sevco. If I had ever been good enough to play football at professional level, they are the one club in world football that I just wouldn't play for regardless of what money was being offered, my family past and present would disown me.
If O'Halloran bides his time, other clubs will come in for him, and he'll probably earn as much as he would get at sevco.

26 Jan 2016 15:30:23
Ed, as a man in the know, maybe you could shed some light on this alternative view on the touted Patrick Roberts loan deal. Whether or not there's any substance to this particular rumour do you think it's possible that at some point Man City will start insisting on us taking some of their young players on loan? Basically saying if you scratch our back we'll scratch yours i. e. if you want guys like Denayer in future then you need to take X, Y and Z as well?

{Ed007's Note - It doesn't work like that, Kev and besides Patrick Roberts is a fantastic young English player. If an 18 month loan was being pursued it would be a good deal as loan signings go and in my opinion Roberts would make the same kind of impression as Denayer did.
My problem isn't the quality of the player, it's the fact it's a loan deal and only for 6 months, well 4 months really.}

26 Jan 2016 17:23:11
I'd hope it doesn't work like that Ed, just a thought. From what I've heard he would be a terrific player for us but like you said he would be of no benefit to us beyond the summer. In my opinion we have the squad to win the domestic treble already. The only other name that's really piqued my curiosity is the winger Santos from Nijmegen. Other than that I'd be more than happy for us to sit tight until the summer, provided the board are willing to go out and get the targets Ronny wants.

26 Jan 2016 17:58:18
If he and the other young city player come in . then all the boys in the youth/ development team would / should he thinking what's the point of me being here
. I personally would hand in a transfer request imO this would be a slap in the face to the whole youth system .

26 Jan 2016 18:01:29
Afternoon Ed, Am i right in saying the deal for Roberts is virtually done and be tied up by the weekend?

I would prefer the Molde winger young then young Ajer? signed for CDM from the other Norwegian club or a massive push for Nordveidt @ Munchengladbach

that would be my perfect window

Shift the deadwood along with Ciftci in the summer and spend our entire summer transfer budget on a striker to really challenge LG I would be contented with that (y)

{Ed007's Note - It's looking like it'll be done mate.}

26 Jan 2016 19:00:28
Ed is it possible that we initially get him on loan for 4 months, but there may be an agreement if he settles and enjoys it there could be an extention to next season and CL possibility. As he will prob be still only 18 and no chance of getting in the Man City side and we are just getting in there first. Just a thought.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah it's a possibility and would make it a lot better from our perspective. Would an 18 month deal for Roberts cover us if Forrest leaves this summer?}

26 Jan 2016 19:24:36
Wud be good if that's how it ended up as I say he only 18 so it takes a lot to uproot and be here for someoene so young and for such a short time so maybe it best 4 months initially for all parties.

26 Jan 2016 20:44:06
Are you hearing anything about James Forrest Ed?

A believe RD when saying they cannot get his agent

Is it poker/ hardball on JF's part? Does he want more money in England? do you know?

Obviously the "wee willy winkiegate" affair is past a honestly thought he would have bitten the clubs hand off for a new deal given that was hanging over him and how injury prone he is

That's it for me a winger and a proper CDM in this window (or signed pre contract) then all cash spent on a striker in the summer (y)

{Ed007's Note - All I know is Forrest is not happy with the club's offer and that Derby are very interested in him.}

26 Jan 2016 11:25:24
Does anyone know if we have a sell on fee if wanyama moves somewhere for silly money?

26 Jan 2016 12:05:50
I think it's 10% of the fee Southampton recieve.

26 Jan 2016 12:59:21
I think JimTim is right. The papers said we were due £2m when he was rumoured to be going to Arsenal for £20m. I find it strange though as sell on fees are usually a percentage of profit.

26 Jan 2016 13:53:23
And sometimes i think they can also be a percentage of the initial fee a club recieved kev.

I know Newcastle were keen for Forster to go back because Newcastle would essentially be recieving money back for what they would have paid, due to such clauses. The issue was that hey already had Krul.

I fully expected Vuc to go to the top. Just to get a ayer in there who even resembles him would be a plus as I really think we miss such a combative engine.