Celtic Banter Archive August 26 2020

26 Aug 2020 23:21:48
Lennon has came out and said a few are pushing for a way out of the club. If we were to get rid of them, would the fans want him to be the man that is in charge of rebuilding .
Not for me unfortunately, I don’t blame him for being in the job. He’s a massive Celtic man and was offered it, who wouldn’t accept.
The one I blame is lawell for his amateurish attempts whilst hiring him.
Bandied big names around while never actually interviewed anyone, then appointing him in the shower. What supposed big club performs like that. We have 40 days left in the transfer window, get rid of the ones that don’t want to be here, and get a coach in that can alter games with different solutions.

26 Aug 2020 23:33:52
Agree. Let's be honest lenny biggest claim to fame is being the man on the opposite side of tonight. He was the rebrov against barca. Who knows how we won but somehow we did! But difference is Tony watt found his level on Motherwell bench. lenny is somehow back at celtic.

27 Aug 2020 04:35:39
Some Celtic fans say. We are the best fans in the world. I say, only when Celtic are winning. When Celtic loses. The same fans are the worst in the world. Lose one game and they wet their knickers, sack the coach they say. No loyalty at all, Oh, only when they win.

27 Aug 2020 05:07:07
Who are these players Lennon refers to as not wanting to be there? Come out and name them. I watched that game last night and yes mistakes especially in defence were made but I didn’t get the impression players didn’t want to be there so come out lennon and tell us who they are.

27 Aug 2020 05:35:35
The issue is with the club. Downsizing over the past few seasons (including the appointment of NL) . We just aren't a Champions league club. When you spend less on signings than you receive you tend to go one way unless you have a world class manager.

27 Aug 2020 08:53:21
Jim Tim

You are right, we are not a champions league level club. Europa perhaps IF we get in to Groups but that will be tough

When the Players aren't good enough to go toe to toe, some coaches and teams manage somehow to " do am Iceland ' and find a way to make up for the technical deficit. whether it is being more disciplined with a shape or fitter or hungrier or all of the above. you train and train and perfect the means by which to be competitive

I YHINK a lot of players are pampered. They aren't improving. they think they've done all the improving required ( at Celtic) and atlas a consequence we become very average very quickly

We need to rally around AN ODEA and get busy improving ( marginal gains ( but will the group knuckle down or face in the opposite direction?

26 Aug 2020 23:11:35
"It was easier than I thought it was going to be. "

Is there really anything more to be said?

26 Aug 2020 23:35:29
There really isn't. That and the fact he's now just thinking out loud while not really thinking makes us look amateurish. His wee quips and comments in press conferences have always been clumsy but now just look like a fella floundering at work after being caught out.

27 Aug 2020 02:00:12
Lenny has to go surely found out too many times tactically now looks like he has lost the dressing room. Get him out before we lose 10iar.

27 Aug 2020 05:09:06
100% correct mate. I mean he was asked last night “ how is Edouard”, to which he replied “ I don’t know”. how can he not know? He’s the most valuable asset at the club yet he doesn’t know.

27 Aug 2020 11:15:07
He has developed a care free ego
Nl with an ego is a dangerous thing

He is not the answer to our quest for 10iar . as much as I thought he was an undervalued and underrated player.

26 Aug 2020 22:49:23
All Lenny has to do is utilise his squad that HE built. If Eddy is injured and Ajeti isn't match fit then play Klimala up front before you play a CM in there. Alennons tactics well he doesn't have a tactical plan nevermind a plan a b or c. Time to go Lenny.

26 Aug 2020 22:27:33
Scott Brown isn't even at Gary Dicker's level now.

26 Aug 2020 22:18:40
This type of result cannot be a shock anymore after cluj, copenhagen and aek Athens. Can anyone honestly say we have made any improvements in europe during the chase for 10 in a row. We have got progressively worse in europe ans have accepted it because we kept winning the league. we are all to blame for this because for a decade we have accepted it as long as we won the league. Maybe once this season is over we can move forward as a club and hold the manager, players and the board to account like we should have been doing all along.

27 Aug 2020 08:41:09
Well said Mick and spot on. The model we use doesn't work and teams that used it have became shadows of what they were i. e Porto, Ajax and before everyone cites Ajax's recent european run that came because they abandoned it and bought big. We sell our best each season and try and replace them with cheap prospects, our most valuable player now just happens to be our record transfer purchase. It does okay in the SPL but in Europe it doesn't work. We should change our name to PL United because that's what we have become, balancing books more important than the club's reputation and standing.

26 Aug 2020 22:11:01
So the team lenny picked was the team that we all picked apart from eddy being injured. so with ajeti not fit enough and griif doing his usual what was he to do. This result is down to the players not the manager. they were well within themselves to win this game. horrendous defending from players we all like julien and elhamed. how the eff is that lennys fault.

26 Aug 2020 22:35:55
Klimala is fit and stayed on the bench we are losing 2-1 and he brings frimpong on which is fine if he brings on another striker too and went to 2 up top the more I think about this the more I think lennon has to go. His tactics are rotten. A home game against A ok team and we don't have a CF up front what is the matter with Lenny does he want us pumped out of Europe.

26 Aug 2020 22:38:23
👏 totally agree Mally the players need to take responsibility.

26 Aug 2020 22:39:54
Sorry mally the blame lies with Lennon. No strikers? If eddy is injured then we play Klimala or Ajeti. His substitutions are baffling and once again he got it all wrong in a game we should have won comfortably.

26 Aug 2020 22:44:40
Why is ajeti then fit enough after we go behind?

26 Aug 2020 22:46:24
Problem we have is big julien is totally lacking in confidence/ form should be dropped but we have no one to replace him, it happens to players bad form or mistakes they get dropped and come back stronger, but we don't have the option to do that. Thought we had enough chances tonight i think with a striker on the pitch they would of finished one of those cross balls because that's natural to them. A striker should of started even give them a half each if there lacking match fitness, lenny has to take some blame but no real drive with the players on the pitch.

26 Aug 2020 22:53:54
Mally the manager must look at the game and outhink his opponent, and he simply hasn't.
Ajer and Jullien as a pairing scare the life out of me.
But this has to go down to the tight fisted board not backing the manager as I'm sure he will have had players requested to be brought in for certain positions and they have simply failed him, the greedy persons won't put the cash on the table to improve the team, and the result is no CL money, which from a business point of view is utterly shocking.
We aren't CL quality, no where near, yet the revenue provides opportunities to strengthen the team and attract better players.
This has made it almost certain that Eddy will leave and that the money will not be reinvested as it should be.
The board have blind sided us for long enough by keeping the blinkers on and the focus of 10IAR.
I have no interest what so ever in Uefa Cup, I think we shouldn't even get the chance to play in the tournament as both the CL and Uefa Cup should have separate teams entered in and never cross over from CL to uefa after being knocked out.
So Lennon play the u21s in the uefa Cup ties and focus only on the league as that is the only trophy anyone will remember you by.

26 Aug 2020 22:59:33
I’d start with the fact lennon signed a good part of them. Year after year we constantly bang on about strengthening the defence and what’s Lennons answer “ let's go sign another midfielder or another striker”. Absolutely screaming out for a LB, especially if he’s wanting to play with Wing backs because Taylor isn’t that man. Final ball isn’t good enough and the boy can’t take the man on. Screaming out for a no nonsense CB. Yes u can’t legislate for piss poor defending . We’ve 4 strikers at the club and not 1 according to lennon is match fit, who’s fault is that? Taking ajeti aside, for me griffiths has let celtic down once too many times now, and as for klimala, how can this lad not be fit, he’s went away baulked up and has scored a few goals already so again if he’s no fit how far away is he? Lennons came out tonight and questions players wanting to be there. Wonder if Forrest was one as how he lasted 75 minutes is beyond me. Lennon can blame the players all he likes but he isn’t beyond scrutiny either. yet another shambolic European result. He has to take responsibility aswell.

26 Aug 2020 23:00:55
I wouldn't have picked that team.

26 Aug 2020 23:04:27
cause playing a game with 11 on each side is about shape, form and position as much as individual talent? and cause that--rather than tackling, shooting, passing--is the coach/ manager's job?

26 Aug 2020 23:21:41
Lenny has no clue. Brenda is a rat but with him in charge we would have won tonight. He would have been decisive. Instead of sitting waiting. Would have gone to pens if they hadn't scored. Lenny has bot a clue how to change a game. Disgrace!

26 Aug 2020 23:25:43
Give it a rest Mally with the Lennon fan club bit.
How can Lennon say that Klimala isn't match fit when he never plays the boy?
He could have played Klimala for 45-60 mins then brought Ajeti on for the end of the game.
Something is going on inside the club if Lennon won't play certain player but keep playing Brown and Forrest who were brutal.
Forrest knows with Lennon in charge that he doesn't need to even try.
Also for Lennon to come out and say "some players don't want to be here and they should leave" but when asked about the quote he says "in some cases"
He is out his depth and that quote was pathetic especially after his team lineup and then he couldn't use the bench to change it
Lennon needs to go and go now,

26 Aug 2020 23:29:48
The players don't come out of this well at all; just like most did at Tannadyce and Kilmarnock and our sloppy defense is criminal.
There are also some who think they are better than they are.
However, every manager has got to carry the can as the buck always stops there - Players don't get sacked.
His tardy substitutions are legendary and sometimes the choice of who comes off also causes some debate to say the least.
The situation where, out of FOUR recognised strikers - not ONE was fit or able can't just be bad luck, but we'll never know for sure?
Then we have The person responsible for signing unfit players - or failing to address quality and positional gaps that need filled at the most crucial time of the season, when there's big-money to be earned to appease the bank, keep our best and attract better players for what is apparently our biggest season for decades.
Another small point that may or may not have made any difference; Why do we release players like Simo. Rogic, and Hayes for example without having better replacements in the door first?

26 Aug 2020 23:45:10
I tell you give Brown a rest, and everything will move on, others will step up to the plate, he doesn't mean to, but his very presence in the team stifles others creativity, he is the big brother looking over the younger ones shoulders, he has to get the ball, because, well he is the boss, they can't express themselves, incase they incur his wrath, maybe the Fast Show can make a sketch out of it.

27 Aug 2020 10:39:52
RC over expresses himself every game, sweating on a move that lad, he thinks he's a world beater but the chances he gets if he finished half of them he'd be sold for 30m but he simply can't.

28 Aug 2020 12:51:06
The stats were awesome and I’m aware stats don’t win games but we played well the players looked well coached and motivated just individual errors and judgement cost us not Lennon!

26 Aug 2020 22:05:38
Lenny saying some players don't want to be here.

26 Aug 2020 22:37:31
Let's hope one manager doesn't want to be here. I hope PL starts earning his wage a sorts this mess out.

26 Aug 2020 22:32:20
You have to wonder why he's playing them then.

26 Aug 2020 22:40:34
You would think by playing like that it is NL who they want out. Surely the way for a player to get to best team you need to be playing with them, not also rans. Maybe our level is EL not CL but any celtic team should beat the hungarains. If im a scout watching that tonight im not wanting any celtic player.

26 Aug 2020 22:42:01
I said that and got shot down

Why is he playing them then?

26 Aug 2020 22:46:20
It's funny how it's never lennon fault it's always someone else's this time some players don't want to be here. No wonder if I was a player I would not want to play for us either while we have a tactical moron in charge.

26 Aug 2020 22:58:21
That'll help sell them. Certainly knock a bit off their value. A la Stevie g guide to throwing your players under bus. Be angry disappointed pwiddled off but keep it professional. He also said it was easier than he thought it would be? okay Lenny get yourself off to bed.

26 Aug 2020 23:05:26
Lenny's pressie was about as embarrassing is the rest of the show. Taking responsibility my arse.

26 Aug 2020 23:09:41
Talking about poor attitudes
Poor attitudes during C.V.
Record season ticket sales
Big merchandise deals
A historic season potentially
AND
Poor attitudes.

Celtic's undoing this season was always going to be ourselves

Many fans think we handle pressure well
I don't think we do

We deserve better in terms of players who are hungry, want to be here and have a good positive attitude

Those who don't want to be here we need to move on rapid .

Not a season for half heartedness

Worrying times if the manager is talking about bad attitude.

26 Aug 2020 23:26:17
Who would want to play for that clown?

26 Aug 2020 23:33:07
Well name names the rat-bags and get some who do.

26 Aug 2020 22:00:57
This team will win nothing this season, if Scott Brown plays every game, leave him on the bench for important games, bring him on in the easy meaningless games, you say he is our commander on the pitch, well let him command from the bench, you say the stats show he is as good as ever, for distance covered and passes made, well he used to be a middle distance runner but now he is a marathon runner, he might cover a lot of distance but he does it at a slower speed, he might make as many passes as before, but there are a lot more sideways ones and back the way ones,
He has been, is a great captain, and a loyal servant to the club, but now he is a liability in the team, make him the non playing captain.

26 Aug 2020 22:10:26
Aindoh . a good servant . servant? He is on 35k a week

Good luck to him
When good he was good x within his and out limitations

But he is passed his best
Calmac also overrated for ne . but he may have more space to find another level without Brown

It wasnt just Brown tonight however. we didn't do enough generally.

26 Aug 2020 22:21:19
As long as that clown is in charge nothing will change I’m astonished at how he can leave subs so long refuses to change things and then plays with no striker we could go on all night about his failings he was the cheap easy option and it shows. Were shown up tonight to be the wee team we are. Lawwell has a lot to answer for aswell. Ad love to hear from anyone that thinks NL is the man to take us forward or was the correct appointment.

26 Aug 2020 22:28:50
And ntcham and mgregor where outstanding?

26 Aug 2020 23:07:22
He wasn't always on that, if he is on that, he was young and brilliant when he came in, couldn't believe the other lot chose Thompson, but his time is past, (well it passed last year, or maybe the year before) , but it's this loyalty thing, he is now like an old pet dog, that you still love, but the vet wants to put down, so you cling on to him, and pet him and say good boy, well done, and fool yourself that the vet is wrong.

26 Aug 2020 23:18:30
Lubo have to agree on calmac. Tidy player but what does he bring. Everyone seems to think that dropping brown is the answer. We have no leaders. He is past his best btw. We will sell rogic who I agree doesn't do it enough, isn't fit but who do we have that's better? Christie runs around but come on he can't play 10. We were playing a bang average team at home in the 2nd champions league qualifier. We think we shouldn't even have to play these games. Prove it! . The talk about then and their co efficient points. I have respect for them due to them coming through despite lot being seeded. Fighting for european football. To grow. We have too many players that think they are better tha they are. If anyone is day enough to offer 20m for Ntcham, 20M for Ajer, 20-40m for eddy, 20m for calmac I say bite their hand off. I believe Eddy can play for Barca/ real one day but other tha that we are bang average. Sorry for ranting but so frustrated with same old.

26 Aug 2020 21:57:26
The team selection puzzled us; the early goal conceded gave us deja vu; The team regroup gives us hope; the equalizer lights a spark of delight; the lack of substitutions when the team needed them most infuriated us; the choice of substitutions baffled us; their winner sickened us; The fact that Celtic never, ever learn from these early qualifying disasters every season bursts our arses; The way we give our critics, rivals and detractors unlimited ammunition; totally unforgiveable!
L and L Incompetence strikes again.

26 Aug 2020 22:06:27
He had no fit strikers and do klimala not ready What s he to do.

26 Aug 2020 22:11:52
Theres egos will see the blame laid elsewhere.

26 Aug 2020 22:18:57
So who would you have played different.

26 Aug 2020 22:44:02
How was klimala not ready he came on as a sub against Hamilton then he doesn't get back on again. Play they guy he will. chase everything down. He will come alive in the penalty box but he needs games.

26 Aug 2020 21:56:15
Ronny Deila? I know he has a cushy job, but he has some unfinished business at CP. With Moi and Ajer (who I thought were both good tonite) that might be a working core.

Lenny square pants is a dud.

26 Aug 2020 22:14:42
Why would he come back? We were quick enough to get rid when we got beat by sevco in cup. Nobody will want to work with lawell, apart from NL.

26 Aug 2020 23:16:00
Yes, I think the kitchen has the need of a new menu, for these C.V. times, think Ronnie will just about manage that.

26 Aug 2020 21:48:46
That celtic team won't win league the past 3 games we been pish no finishing touch, pish in last third no killer ball, should be smashing you killie dun utd and ferencavaros pish poor.

26 Aug 2020 22:03:27
Yes we were poor tonight but some of the comments 👇are shocking! 10 iar is what matters this year hail hail 🍀.

26 Aug 2020 22:18:10
I agree but that team won't win league if that's our level.

26 Aug 2020 22:18:16
Yes sevkev67, that maybe true. But do you think after last 2 league games and tonight we are showing good form? We play like that for much longer and we will be not only behind sevco, but probably hibs too. And if that teams are rubbish what are we?

26 Aug 2020 21:42:36
Neil Lennon Tactical genius.
hope he does the decent thing and resign was gutted when he got appointed he's done nothing to change that.

26 Aug 2020 21:49:01
I wish hed go as well . not a fan and his in-game management is way below average.

26 Aug 2020 21:59:27
TAXI for Lennon NOW not tomorrow not Friday NOW. Two strikers sitting watching the game with Christie as the main striker baffling.

26 Aug 2020 21:39:53
Another absolute shambles. Utter disgrace, team selection horrific and Jesus do we need a defender that can actually defend. So many European lows like this is recent years, joke club.

26 Aug 2020 21:45:15
Aye let's blame lenny for full international players being bang average eddy not fit ajeti not fit griff not fit klimala orib not ready and the defending from or back line was a joke 2 decent balls all night and coyudnt handle it . This was the players who embarrassed us.

26 Aug 2020 21:49:53
Why do we have three unfit strikers and one who isn't good enough? this has been going on for 3 seasons!

26 Aug 2020 21:50:33
Embarrassed indeed. Not even close to a champions league team. This was still two rounds BEFORE the champions league. Disgusts me.

26 Aug 2020 21:53:36
Mally BEHAVE . NL is the manager . according to you we train like. maniacs every day. the whole club is in a malaise with players who THINK they are better than they are and a manager who was shocked to get the job again, showed willing, brought energy and has since become a slob in the job . he needs to wise or call himself a taxi.

26 Aug 2020 21:53:46
Mally he’s tactically inept he’s absolutely pathetic excuse of a coach can’t/ won’t drop his mates when was last time brown Cal Mac Ntcham Christie all playing worked?
Teams are a reflection of their manager we looked lost and no ideas they were buzzing about organised closing down space the blame falls at Lennons feet.

26 Aug 2020 21:53:51
No this was lennon 5 subs 2-1 down and he brings a CF on with 15 mins to go his tactics were pathetic we should have a striker or two on at home. This should be lennon last chance. How many times in big games has he gone with no cf upfront a put a midfielder up there. Why sign these guys if he doesn't trust them he could have started with ajeti and took him off when he tired and then brought klimala on it no he plays rubbish tactics as normal against bang average opposition I feel totally let down by lennon I didn't want him in the first place but gave him a chance and plaudits when he won the cup and the league so he can take my criticism. Total disgrace.

26 Aug 2020 21:37:17
Lennon is a puppet. He's not a manager at all.

26 Aug 2020 21:41:52
I agree . after 60 moi was done . forrest was absent . what did NL " do " to go and get that game won . when they scored he got up of his backside and sent on an unfit ajeti. we are a shambles. a total shambles. midfield strongest part of the team? You're having a giraffe. we are getting worse.

26 Aug 2020 21:42:27
Tactics all wrong again tonight no striker upfront. Ajeti is good in the air and leaves him on the bench 5million for a sub brilliant and what ever it was for klimala and with 15 mins to go he brings our only recognised striker on and a rb I think he should have brought the two strikers on we were on our way out bring the two on and try and get the equiliser. I am feeling pig sick tonight sorry for the rant.

26 Aug 2020 21:46:32
Aye and the players were great look at them.

26 Aug 2020 21:55:48
Molly by your reckoning we don't need a manager as they are accountable for diddly squat .

26 Aug 2020 19:57:06
Here we go again, conceding early and making it difficult. HH.

26 Aug 2020 20:03:55
I know Ajeti isn't fit but How must Klimila feel if Lennon is playing a Midfielder up front in front of him.
It's like going back to the Cup Final again when he played Mikey up front.
Total clueless.

26 Aug 2020 20:09:58
CB that isn't scared to header please jesus what's wrong with Julien he's such a soft CB.

26 Aug 2020 20:19:59
Imagine having a Duffy in the centre of a back 3 in this game.

26 Aug 2020 20:25:38
If i were klimala I'd be fuming makes no sense what so ever.

26 Aug 2020 20:30:09
Darren o’dea sounds as though he’s going to be a top coach 👌🍀.

26 Aug 2020 20:36:55
Hope that's sarcasm sevekev67.

26 Aug 2020 20:37:25
Or he wants a job as editor of the celtic view . if you shut your eyes and just listen. you'd think brown is bossing it.

26 Aug 2020 20:54:40
Yasss 🍀.

26 Aug 2020 21:17:23
Well that's eddy up for sale now without champions league money, shocking defending this.

26 Aug 2020 21:21:30
This is brutal wait till 15 mins left
Then bring a striker on?
What is Lennon thinking 😡😡😡😡😡.

26 Aug 2020 21:23:55
Got what we deserved. Too many lenny lovers on here . Lawell puppet . Who now thinks we can get 10? Think back to lennon teams last time he was manager and we wanted change?

26 Aug 2020 21:25:44
Over the last couple of games we have been piss poor. could be out of Europe (cl) yet again transfer windows are our undoing.

26 Aug 2020 21:40:21
Thats absolutely shocking what a disgrace of a performance, you can't keep creating and be wasteful otherwise you get punished, nobody will want to come just to play SPL footy so looks like we won't be able to attract better than the useless players with have playing CB.
There is simply no excuses to this result and I believe with this current starting 11 we won't win 10IAR, this team should be better than last season and it isn't.

26 Aug 2020 21:43:14
Embarrassing yet again. Beaten by a bang average team. It's so easy to beat us. Any compact team with a bit of pace on the counter will beat us easily. We can say goodbye to Eddy now. No way he will stay. Griffiths may as well join him. All he had to do was stay fit and healthy during lockdown. Not having this he's picked up an injury nonsense. His lifestyle causes it. He knows where he needs to be. A fit and healthy griff we win no bother. As for klimala may as well send him home. Another bayo. Clueless lenny sits and does nothing. We are not CL level but should be beating that lot.

26 Aug 2020 21:45:56
Folks we will be lucky to get to EL groups .

We are lacking

There is a lack of hunger and drive and what some call " brilliant basics"

Midfielders that cannot make a forward pass
Defenders that cannot head the ball
1 TRUSTED AND FIT STRIKER

And a wage bill of 55m per annum

What a shame .

Still a long season ahead but I don't like what I'm. seeing and I think we have a poor quality manager.

26 Aug 2020 19:23:58
Anyone else no managing to get logged in for game with pass? 🤬🤬🤬.

26 Aug 2020 19:26:17
Nope fecking farce can't get the sign in.

26 Aug 2020 19:30:41
500 odd quid for a ST and can't even get on telly, feckin joke.

26 Aug 2020 20:38:30
You're not missing much I'll send you a DVD of the low lights.

26 Aug 2020 20:39:24
yir no missing much lads.

26 Aug 2020 20:45:40
Game on p2p dot net.

26 Aug 2020 20:46:39
We are starting to Dominate but I don't know if we are playing better or they are trying to just defend their lead.

26 Aug 2020 21:47:17
We are a rank poor team.

26 Aug 2020 18:39:28
No surprise in that team selection and highlights why Lennon is looking to sign another striker. Klimala miles off this level and Ajeti not fit enough for 90 mins yet. I wish Griffiths hadn't downed tools, shame on him.

26 Aug 2020 18:46:47
Looks to me they've looked at Ferencvaros and reckoned they'll try pummelling Celtic from the whistle. If Celtic can soak up the pressure and then introduce Klimala and Ajeti later on to wear them down. Think this'll go to extra time at least. Also very interested in seeing young Cameron Harper on the bench.

26 Aug 2020 20:49:37
What position does harper play.

26 Aug 2020
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Would love to see this formation today

26 Aug 2020 18:14:38
That is the best way of solving the Christie/ Ntcham dilemma especially when our back up strikers aren't up to speed yet. Same formation as Dortmund usually go with too.

26 Aug 2020 16:17:50
The bold Charlie binned by sky sports.

26 Aug 2020 16:29:46
the less we see of that bright orange mush the better eh.

26 Aug 2020 16:46:26
'He'll be sitting there thinking WTF? ' If you don't get it? - I'm sitting here thinking - go to You Tube.

26 Aug 2020 18:16:42
Best news of the transfer window that is. They just need to bin Boyd next.

26 Aug 2020 08:46:47
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Guillermo Maripan