Celtic Banter Archive July 25 2013

 

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25 Jul 2013 23:39:11
Have to laugh about the other site, how they are congratulating themselves on the fans performance in sheffield? Even making up posts from Wednesday supporters!
This will be the new seat counting routine won't it! Our supporters were better behaved than your supporters lol

But facts are facts, it won't be long until they show their true disgusting personalities once again!
I think the only award those low lifes will win is the one for the most cheesiest and cringeworthy supporters lol

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Sort out your own house before commenting about Rangers, then your more than welcome to comment. I think your last three matches have shown your true colours where chanting etc is concerned PB

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@PB: Perhaps you should have a look on youtube at some of your fans chanting?. green jhedi

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Your right pb but in all honesty we haven't perfercted the art of rioting yet we seem to shake policemens hands and take photos with them on the park rather than hunt them down in packs then attack them,,,,, deep river bhoy

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PB have you got any evidence or proof about anything that supposedly happened in Brentford? Have you read what the police have said? Have you heard what Brentford have said? Have you heard what Brentford fans have said? There is PLENTY of evidence telling people how well behaved we were, plenty saying that there was no unsavoury singing. It was all made up by the twisted mind of that knob that represents every SEVCO fan, he has even been wheeled out on TV to talk about your rancid, toxic club. I see you aren't bragging about the pub that was smashed up in Sheffield. You must be one of the biggest idiots on these sites, I bet you don't even go to Ibrox and I'm certin you weren't in Sheffield Oh and I heard that Kate was mortified by your cringy banner at Sheffield, she doesn't want associated with the same people who wrecked Manchester over a broken TV, she doesn't know what she has done to deserve it and is taking advice, she thought it was the EDL but police told her Sevco fans are only a crowd of wannabes.

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I love the way how they carry on because the "supposedly" behaved themselves at ONE football game! Their cheesy banner were an absolute embarrassment! And having heard conflicting reports of The Rangers supporters urinating in the streets and causing trouble after the game, I just love their holier than though attitude lol

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@3 yes remember those scenes from Manchester! It will probably haunt every decent person who seen it forever! I bet PB was there too, weren't you! That's why people like him need to have the wee brainless head clapped like a wee child when they think they have done good lol truly pathetic comes to mind lol

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Two Quotes for you PB;

"Supporters began to vent their frustration on property and police".
"The police had never encountered scenes of such ferocity and intensity".
Mr Ricky Holland (prosecuter at Manchester Crown Court)

Here's ours;
"I am writing from Seville to you on the excellent behaviour, good fun and good manners shown by thousands of Celtic supporters during their stay in our city.
"You should feel proud to have fans such as these in Glasgow who give their city and country a good name.
Alfredo Sanchez Monteseirin (Mayor of Seville).
Now get back to the dark side, Sevconian!

BigRab

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26 Jul 2013 15:37:08
BigRab, now you own PB, what will you do with him?

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25 Jul 2013 22:52:21
i think celtic should keep eye on stevie may looked at his stats is goalscoring record is unreal for a 20 year old

alloa 22 games 19 goals 7 assits

Hamilton 31 games 24 goals 11 assits

never seen him play can anyone let me know if he's anygood? it looks like he's not been capped for Scotland youth level {Ed007's Note - Bit of MOTD fever there mate, because he scored tonight you think we should sign him?}

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No I never seen the game just heard he scored then I checked his stats and seen he was young and scored a lot of goals don't think we should sign him just think we should keep an eye on him and see if he can keep the goals coming

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Never heard of him before last night let's see if he has a good season in spl defo has potential I've heard, cool hair due as well lol

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25 Jul 2013 23:23:19
****ed off yet again as we're sold down the river
cant wait for a midweek in dec when CL on TV and lawell puts on a great night showing us P&Ls and lovely spreadsheets of money in the bank
that's what we're heading for.
if anybody thinks our current strike force going to see us in last 16 needs medical advice
since as long as I've been going since late 80s same old same old
Stevo dundee

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FFS man the season has not started yet and your moaning, why not take my advice from last season and stay in the house with the wife
Tambhoy

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Here stevo wind your neck in are u forgetting how good samaras is the europe and old firm specialist give baldee a chance joe bhoy

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A months holiday with yer uncle crocodile might help . take yersel away a lock af days stevo, come back chilled and ready for the new season . TTTS

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25 Jul 2013 22:03:40
cant understand how they are not searched prior to entering ground what are the stewards doing they are quick enough to take a bottle of water from you when entering if stewards do their job no need for the police to be involved saving any of the we are being picked on mentality

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25 Jul 2013 21:55:48
If you sell 30 goals a season then ye have to fecking replace 30 goals a season end of story would be happy to se Doyle sign as long as we put our hand in our pocket and sign an out and out goal scorer.the money's there this is time to restore a bit of faith and show everyone we mean business!


Kieran

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25 Jul 2013 21:44:38
Word is hooper has passed his medical. But who'll replace him?

NE Gooner

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25 Jul 2013 20:36:18
c, mon lenny we need a striker ASAP thuis will end up costing us our champions league place

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25 Jul 2013 20:20:51
We need a CL group stages proven goalscoring striker.

An EPL third tier guy at Celtic park just because he's an Irishman is not on. Forget it PL, forget it Lenny, its not on.

Don't start treating the Celtic support as brain dead zombies the way the other lot get treated by their board.

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Are you the same guy that brings up the "because he's an Irishman "slant all the time? I agree about Doyle but its because he's not good enough .Maybe we should sign crouch since he's english and Hooper was english and he scored goals? TTTS

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We need to buy someone with potential, that was what we bought when hooper was bought, there no point in buying someone who might turn out to be a has been, cause there is always that chance if you buy someone who's a 'proven cl goalscorer'

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25 Jul 2013 20:17:15
Hibs embarrassing come on st Johnstone!

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25 Jul 2013 20:10:19
Ed do you think there will be a signing or two tonight? {Ed007's Note - It doesn't look like it Marco. Remember we can sign ONE player up to 24 hours before kick-off against Elfsborg.}

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No one coming tonight

Ska Bhoy

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25 Jul 2013 18:19:50
Regarding this probable fine from UEFA on the fireworks at Celtic park, what's the consensus on here? Personally I have defended the Green Brigade, I think they provide colour and add noise and atmosphere at a sometimes quiet game.But do they now think they are bigger, and have more power than they actually have?

Lots of clubs in lots of countries tend to cut their ultras, and that's what the GB profess to be, plenty of slack.They are consulted on lots of matters concerning the club and have varying degrees of power.I would hope that Celtic never go down this road.As I said I have defended them, but it now seems as if they are actively trying to push the club into a very awkward situation.

Their loyalty and love of Celtic cannot be questioned, so why continually overstep the mark on so many things? Over one hundred seats damaged in their section at the Cliftonville game is ridiculous.Do they really expect the club to pay for repairs every home game? Then there is fireworks. They know this is not allowed so why do it? Add constantly using terminology in songs that offend people, and give the anti Celtic lobby ammunition, is another thing I cannot understand. If they love Celtic why risk a banning order?

The smoke bombs are another issue.Firstly I quite like them at big European games.I think they add colour and look fantastic.How many of us have looked at Galatasaray or Besiktas and thought how great it looked? And let's not forget UEFA like to show these images on TV to accentuate the viewing atmosphere.But the fact is some people don't like it.People who, like the GB, have bought a ticket and want to see the game without being blinded every now and again.If the GB leaders maintain this anti authority stance it will end one way. Guys who love Celtic, and who add so much to a game, will be lost to Celtic park. Surely we don't want that?. green jhedi

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In terms of the bangers set off tuesday it now seems conclusive that was not down to the gb and let off by some neds outside 111 section who are trying to hang onto the gb. This is what has got uefa involved.In terms of other aspects GJ I don't wish to pass opinion Gally

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All seat holders in section 111 should pay the £21,000 fine from 2011. After all why should the club pay? Which is basically other fans money.

The recent damage to our paradise should also be paid before section 111 is reopened.

Section111 should pay any new UEFA fine.

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Love theG.B and the colour atmosphere they bring is second to none let's face celtic park would be a pretty dull place without them the atmosphere out with the big games would be flat if it wasn't for that corner of the ground that being said they must realise in the modern game safety inside stadia is paramount and the club must be seen to inforce these laws I think the return terraces in a section of the ground would allow fans to express them selfs in such a way that would have little impact on the stadium or other fans allthough I can't see it happening there for I think it maybe time for the G.B to maybe tone down some of their antics as it would be a sad day if the club was forced to close this section of the ground because the impact on atmospher would be catostophic so come on guys for the good of the club yourselves and the expierience of a visit to c.p play the game
H.H thommyj

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Their love and loyalty to Celtic can be questioned GJ.

I'm not for a minute saying its everyone sitting in that section but if you did love the Club and were loyal then you would not carry on like this.

Celtic are facing another probe by UEFA because someone in that section seen fit to contravene UEFA's Safety and Security Regulations by letting of bangers which we all heard! ~ Mrs E

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The Green Brigade are a tiny minority of Celtic supporters. Their spirit and carnival atmosphere is usually a positive contribution. The flip side is every now and then they are wholly out of order. They provide ammunition to our critics. Bill them for all fines and damages.
There's precious few lawyers, accountants, architects in section111, if you had to guess where in the stadium the density of criminal convictions were it would be section111, let's be honest. {Ed007's Note - That's a bit of a sweeping and unsubstantiated generalisation you're making there. Maybe you should look a bit harder, try starting at the South Stand, you might get a surprise and that is the 'snobby' seats.}

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They have had there final warning as far as I am concerned. Okay, the fireworks might not have been down to them (though I think that's stretching it) however what about the damage to the seats. I hate that kind of behaviour. I was pissed off at the last home game of last season when the stewards were getting pelted with paper every time they walked past the GB section.

As I say final warning then get them tae feck if there is a repeat.

Bankie Bhoy

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Seems fairly easily sorted for me. All ST holders are responsible for the seat they sit in. Any damage to it and you pay for it personally. Your ST is invalidated until damage is paid for . 3strikes and it doesn't get re activated. As a group they bring a lot to CP but lines have to be drawn. As for flares anyone wearing them these days needs to have a word with the self.

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Glasgow City Council (unionist labour party) run.Hassling Celtic, Are you surprised!
Not a mention of the public safety concerns off them about Ibrox being a asbestos toxic time bomb.
Stevie bhoy.

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Lets put this into perspective and look at the bigger issues pretty much ignored by UEFA.
Italy would be the first port of call but due to finance and viewing figs what goes on there is almost an oversight. You think our "ultras" are anything like that? FFS. as for the racism, where do I start

stevo dundee {Ed007's Note - Look at Turkey as well Stevo.}

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Fair point Ed, I used Italy as case in point due to the positioning.
The word scapegoats comes to mind and no doubt papers will be lapping it ip next few days
Stevo

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25 Jul 2013 17:55:41
With reguards to earlier posts about the ex old firm and the exclub from govan did we not make steps to distance our selfs from the new shower namely the refusal to share a sponsor with this reincarnation I for one will never return to parkhead if we are tagged with that lot again that means sharing a sponsor or the club indorsing the use of the dirogotory phrase auld firm again call me bitter if you like but I've never been happier to support my club than now as we are reguarded as a seperate entity finally
HH no old firm
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Agree 100% mate. posted the same earlier. green jhedi

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Top post and entirely correct.
They are attempting to clean themselves up a bit by associating closely with Celtic and in turn sully and dirty us. We must brand ourselves totally separate no them. There is no old firm.

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The old firm is deid and buried. Celtic FC have moved on to bigger and better things with no association with the manky mob. jk

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25 Jul 2013 17:41:36
Jamie Mackie handed in Transfer request at QPR. I would take him

Samson

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Is he not just a younger Doyle? I may be wrong but I don't think his scoring record is great either.Good line leader though and a hard worker. green jhedi

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25 Jul 2013 17:08:05
This is nothing to do with celtic, but about Monaco and PSG. Falcao and cavani 50 million plus each, who do you think is better? Cavani for me I actually think he's worth his price tag, I would say falcao is overpriced by about 25 million, thoughts?

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Judging by the amount of teams that were bidding for falcao I would have to disagree with you . for me he is the most natural gifted finisher on the planet just now. cavani is a beast of a target man. but falcao is a poacher who can link up play . not many of them about at all!

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Cavani needs 2 or 3 chances to score, Falcao only needs one. Falcao is better in my opinion, and that's from one of Cavani's biggest fans

LM67

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Falcao was 35 mill when he moved to atletico from porto anyway and pretty much smashed la liga under big fee pressure so for me fact he went up to 50m plus fee to monaco is something I find hard to argue with
Gally

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Having watched both for a long time, including their stints in South America (Falcao was a favourite of mine whilst at River Plate), I'd say they are two totally different kinds of player!

Both are (obviously) very talented, but Cavani has a tendency to drop off and/or float out wide, while Falcao is a sniffer- and while Cavani is obviously utilized in a target man (albeit a very technically gifted one) for his height, and for my money, Falcao is much better in the air.

The truth is both would be exceptionally good foil for one another, but if I had to choose, it would come down to who would I prefer a chance fell to (anywhere in and around the box- Falcao is a poacher from 20 yards out sometimes), then it would be Falcao every single time.

I genuinely believe if you were looking for a World Class goalscorer (and to be fair, he does link the play well- you have to at that level), then Falcao is there with Messi and Ronaldo. (That's not to say he's comparable to those two, but for chances converted)

So- after all that guff, Falcao :)

The Patient

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I don't think there's an awful lot in it with both players but Cavani is a bit more mobile around the pitch than Falcao.

I would go with the OP and say Cavani for me. ~ Mrs E

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I'd go for Falcao, La Liga is a better league than Serie A and he managed 34 goals in 33 games and agreed about Cavani, He does need around 3 chances to find the net pretty wasteful for a guy that bagged 38 goals.

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25 Jul 2013 17:02:22
Not a rumour more of a vent of frustrations!

But if reports that Celtic are going for Doyle are true then its bang out of order! i'm no manager but Doyle is no where near as good as Hooper. They have the momey there are no excuses get the finger oot and get someone signed Celtic!

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Falcao everyday for me mate guys an amazin talent could walk into any team imo. GunnieBhoy

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That was meant for the above post lol

GunnieBhoy

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25 Jul 2013 15:17:04
Well looks like another fine coming our way. Under investigation from UEFA regarding flares, smokebombs and fireworks being set of the other night.

When will these persons realise that you are giving our club a bad reputation with these foolish antics. Are they going to continue this until some person injures or worse kills someone.

THIS MUST STOP NOW.

Ian

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Gers fan here . personally I hate flares we've started to see a few pop up as well and I really hate them (mainly cause my cousin got really badly burned down his right cheek with one accidently) they should not be in the stadium . not to mention they are a huge fire risk (they are designed to not go out in water!)

plus I also think they look very neddy . to me its a very aggressive looking image the flare and the smoke.

D-Boy

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25 Jul 2013 15:14:16
Not great news, but let's be sensible at paradise folks:

Serious safety concerns at Celtic Park
By: Newsroom Staff on 25 Jul, 2013 15:01

THE Directors and Board of Celtic Football Club are responsible for the safety of all supporters, and this is their primary objective.

For some time the Club has been under close scrutiny by the Glasgow City Council Safety Advisory Group with regard to serious safety concerns within Section 111. The Safety Advisory Group is responsible for recommending the annual renewal of the General Safety Certificate which determines the safe spectator capacity of Celtic Park and allows the stadium to operate.

The Safety Advisory Group's primary concerns, which are shared by the Club include:

� Overcrowding of Section 111 resulting in unsafe congestion.
� The refusal of spectators to comply with the direction of safety stewards.
� The unsafe lateral movement of spectators blocking aisles.
� �Moshing� - mock fighting/jostling - causing crowd disruption and damage to seating (131 damaged at Tuesday's night's match).
� The �body surfing� of young people over the heads of spectators.

Regrettably, all of the above concerns were evident at Tuesday night's fixture against Cliftonville FC. In addition, three fireworks were exploded within Section 111, causing the Match Referee to require a stadium announcement to be made instructing such behaviour to stop. As a result of this unprecedented step by a match official, Celtic FC will now be the subject of a disciplinary action for contravention of the UEFA Safety and Security Regulations.

Following the events of last Tuesday's match, the Club's position was to close Section 111, but following discussions between the Club's Supporters' Liaison Officer and representatives of the 'Green Brigade' that decision has been reviewed and the section will remain open. However, the situation will be monitored at both the Celtic FC v Borussia Monchengladbach match on Saturday 27th July, and the Celtic FC v IF Elfsborg match on Wednesday, July 31.

The Club is keen to work with spectators in Section 111 to resolve safety concerns. However, it should be understood that failure to stop this unsafe behaviour will require the closure of this area in Celtic Park.

The Club recognises the many examples of good support for the team emanating from this part of the ground and in particular the efforts of the 'Green Brigade' in organising positive displays which are commended. However, the unsafe aspects of spectator behaviour in Section 111 require to be addressed with immediate effect.

The Directors and Board of Celtic Football Club consider their responsibilities with regard to Spectator Safety to be of paramount importance. We will continue dialogue with representative of fans in this area to resolve these serious safety concerns however this unsafe behaviour must stop.

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When I look over at the GB section, it looks to me like its mostly kids/teenagers yet it can't be.

I don't mind the GB and the Club has given them a platform at Celtic Park but I do not know why the GB seems to think this is a platform to do as they please. They are not bigger than the Club, never have been and never will be.

Mrs E

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I like the GB and certain things they bring to the stadium they like myself love celtic, however when health and saftey is questionlbe i'm afraid pass we andy and flares must go. Please keep up the singing and dancing bhoys its a wonderful sight to see and here. that does us proud

Peter cardiff

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Surely this wishy washy statement from the Board could be worded much more harshly! I'm sick of the GB getting away lightly all the time. As Mrs E says they are not bigger than the club and the Directors shouldn't be tiptoeing around their behaviour. KOBXC 67

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The only thing you should be allowed to bring into the grounds are a cell-phone a flag/banner and a good pare of lungs.

JJ

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25 Jul 2013 14:44:01
Celtic should look at John Guidetti as a replacement for Hooper.

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25 Jul 2013 14:20:40
I think Gary Hooper will regret leaving Celtic. In my opinion he is not Premier League class and will struggle big time down there. Wouldn't be surprised to see him play second fiddle to Ricky van Wolfswinkel for the most part anyway. He is obviously leaving because he hopes to break in to the England set up, but his overall game just isn't good enough for the step up to International level.

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I disagree mate, since we've signed hooper I think he's improved every year especially his link up play. Good luck to him though I hope he does well down there

Bman

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I agree with this . People seem to forget the guy was like the 4th top scorer last year in season with no rangers. I can't imagine inverness getting 5m plus for Mckay or wolves getting the same for griffiths at the beginning of their contracts let alone in the last year of the contract.

Hoopers goals if u ask me are more than replaceable for a fraction of the price celtic will recieve.

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I have never been impressed by his all round game. He is great in and around the box, sniffs out chances very well and is a fantastic finisher. But for me his link up play is severely lacking and he will be found out down south like the majority of players who move from the SPL to the Premier League. Only really Stan Petrov and Barry Ferguson have shown any real, consistent quality down there having made their names in Scotland.

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To be honest the ENGLISH FOOTBALL TEAM are no great shapes at the moment so he might get to play for them. Hope he is playing at the Scotland/England game coming up when the Scottish boys give them a doing. JK

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GDR, I think you will find hoops is not far away from the finished article, he has as much goals in him as anyone who has played in Scotland in the last 5 years or so, his link up play has came on leaps and bounds and he will get the call from England as well as a top 6 team down there in the next couple of seasons IMO. I think he will be the most successful Scotland to England transfer since Petrov and wish him well

Vambo

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GRD what about Arteta then there's McCarthy, Mcarthur, Maloney all just had good seasons although they got relegated.

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@GRD: Barry Ferguson! Are you serious? . green jhedi

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Arteta left Rangers and went to Sociedad first. McCarthy has been consistent yes and will develop into a very good player, but I will reserve judgement on him until later as he moved very young. McArthur I am not a fan of. Maloney is doing well now but he took his time to settle. He's been in England on and off for how long? 6-7 years? Only now is he really showing his quality.

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Are we having a laugh here . @2 So you think because Sevco weren't in the league he should have scored more? . I think you'll find he scored his fair share against the Oldco and even scored in the last ever Old Firm game . @3 . As a Celtic fan his goals were enough for me . I couldn't give a f@@k about his link up play . I take it you were really critical of your current manager when he played and would rather he was a link up player than goal scorer . And you really must enlighten me how Barry Ferguson made it big in England . DH

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Ferguson did nothing in England your blue tinted spectacles are causing you some vision problems

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I agree his goals are most important to you as Celtic fans. What I am saying is I don't think his goals will be enough in the Premier League, particularly when he is playing for a bottom ten club who will not create as many chances for him. That is what the post was about, so your points are basically irrelevant to be honest.

I actually watched various games Barry Ferguson played in during his spells with both Blackburn and Birmingham and he was awarded man of the match more often that not, and that was regularly against the top four, I'm sure he also won Birmingham's player of the year in 2010. He was certainly a success in England.

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Ferguson? You mixing Barry up with Duncan grd? Barry ferguson is a disgrace to our country a thug with very little talent. And hooper is better than jelivic I know it must be hard seeing celtic produce world class players while one of your highly rated youngsters has to have a trial with accretion Stanley (spelling)

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You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is entirely different though. I've been a season ticket holder at Ibrox since 98-99 and have seen some top class players, but Barry is probably the best of them all. He was unplayable in the 2002-03 season when we won our 50th league title. Captained us to the treble and scored 20+ goals from midfield. Fantastic player.

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Hooper is not a better all round striker than Jelavic, though I'm not sure what relevance that has.

As for your point about producing players, I thought Hooper was signed for around £2m from Scunthorpe. My mistake.

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@11 . Ferguson 7 years in England 4 goals . Blackburn 3 goals Birmingham 0 goals relegated . Blackpool 1 goal loaned out to Fleetwood now back at Blackpool . 7 years one winners medal . Success is not winning man of the match awarded by Andy Gray or Hateley . And you have the cheek to question the abilities of Gary Hooper . DH

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GRD I do think been at Celtic has improved hoopers alround game and going to the EPL is the next step for him, unfortunately he doesn't love Celtic the way I do so I can understand him wanting to go down south and try and break into the international set up


Bman

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Maybe the new rangers should buy ferguson as well as Kenny Miller. Living in the past isn't healthy but as the new team are recruiting old rangers players is there any truth that Walter smith is taking over as manager and Sally is going back to a question of sport

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25 Jul 2013 14:08:40
As I posted yesterday we must sign 3 quality players to replace what the manager has just lost.
The CL deadline is tonight and as we have sold Hooper at the last minute, I sincerely hope we have sorted out a REAL class striker to lead the line, before the games against Elfsingborg.
We must not settle for journeymen or rejects as this will in no way enhance a squad that has been severely depleted since the Cup final.
OK other clubs will know we have cash and prices will inflate, but that is our own fault for selling our top players in advance and leaving ourselves in this position (naivety or stupidity?).
The supporters and manager deserve - and require - the players that will ensure domestic domination and CL group stage football for the foreseeable future and if the board do not back the manager and force him to bargain-buy we will all suffer in the end.
I hope before the day is out I see at least one significant signing made by Celtic. Any ideas?


Jungle Jim

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25 Jul 2013 13:03:07
This is my 3 post now wishing Gary Hooper good luck with his new team lol seriously though he was worth his weight in goals that lad. Hope he enjoys EPL and the cash it brings him. I hate to say but he will be joining a long line of players who are lured by cash - the grass sure ain't greener on the other side, but who in this world would not switch employers if offered more cash? Now Lenny get the finger oot and spalsh some serious millions on a straight replacement before deadline tonight. I feel we will get the victory at Elfsborg but let's not leave that to chance, an in form goal scorer is required ASAP HH ShottsBhoy

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I wouldn't swap a 25 grand a week deal at Celtic (which he was being offered) for 10-15k more at any other club, anywhere else in the world pal. I can promise you that. Difference is i'm Celtic daft and Hooper isn't. Its certainly won't be a wrench for him to leave today that's for, he's wanted away for over a year.

Good luck to him, he will regret his decision sooner rather than later. Maybe 18 months down the line.

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Also in the history books as the last EVER goalscorer in the now defunct OLD FIRM game would like to see this commemorated by some type of plaque being presented to him on this acheivement

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No he won't lol. No matter how much you want that to be true.

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@3) And no matter how much you want Celtic fans to fold like the media have GRD, it will never ever happen. We're not sheep, the old Rangers rid the white horse, end of story. You seem to have convinced yourselves that football clubs can't die, maybe because it was a club the size of Rangers. The undeniable truth is though they did and you and your fellow supporter sat, watched and did nothing.

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When I am sat at Ibrox, surrounded by nearly 50,000 people every other Saturday, that does far more to show me that we are alive and well than you could ever say to convince me otherwise. But thanks for your input, no name.

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@grd or ostrich to use the proper title. liquidation = dead simples

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By that rationale, if I sit at Celtic Park with 60'000 people singing that the Old Rangers are dead, that would make it even 'more true'.

The Patient

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25 Jul 2013 12:54:05
Would have been good if we had signed Glenn Murray from the championship down south top goal scorer last season. Think it just goes to show there ARE british players out there who CAN replace hooper. Maybe we shouldn't be so worried about losing hooper.

@jockdj83

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Not being funny but the guy just had his best season helping Palace get in the Prem he's hardly going to want to turn that down to come to Celtic let alone Palace agreeing to selling there top goal scorer especially after selling Zaha!

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25 Jul 2013 12:34:07
Afternoon folks.

Great to see Stan Petrov standing toe to toe with his illness and beating it. Fantastic spirit and I have the upmost respect for the man, just as I had the upmost respect for him as a player. Long may it continue.

Would just like to say I find it very refreshing the way in which the real fans from both sides of the Old Firm stick by their own, as well as each other, in times of struggle. Of course there are persons who claim to sit on either side of the fence, but they are not real fans, so their opinions are neither here nor there.

Rangers fans have been very supportive of the legendary Tommy Burns, John Hartson and Stan Petrov to name a few. Just like Celtic fans have been nothing but supportive to the likes of Craig Moore, the great Dane Brian Laudrup and Sandy Jardine.

It's during times like these that the Old Firm divide shows that as well as being the fiercest rivalry on the pitch, it is capable of being the most compassionate off it. We may get bad press, but we have all seen the good side in equal measure and it's for that reason that I'm proud to say I am just one small part of the greatest rivalry in world football.

Well done Bhoys & Bears alike.

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Nice post GRD. Good lad.

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I agree with all you have posted but there is no more old firm mate. The sooner some people accept this we can all move on. green jhedi

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@ green jhedi

I think the faster people like yourself accept the fact that it is still there the better off we will all be.

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Not all of us think the old firm is dead. Rangers have been well and truely humiliated but its eleven guys still wearing the same strips. If and when they aren't I will agree they are dead. HH. Joe

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Gj the old firm is a "tag" it ain't official its when rangers meet celtic.
I have a sneaky suspicion that the next time we meet both teams will market it as an old firm match don't you agree?

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I can guarantee the next time Celtic play Rangers everyone except bitter Celtic supporters (the minority it has to be said) will be 100% aware of the fact that it will be an Old Firm game like any other. The only difference being Rangers are a few divisions lower. Do you think tv will say it's not an Old Firm game? Don't be daft.

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To be fair GRD, you will probably go bust again before any game will take place.
Personally i'm with GJ on this one. The Old Firm tag wasn't a nice one, it was a tainted brand for both team might I add, and I hope its gone forever, just to be quite clear too, i'm far from bitter.

Joeshmo1888

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Nah.Sorry the old firm tag died when rangers were liquidated. As for a minority thinking the tag died? not on your life. I do not know any Celtic fans who think that The rangers are the same club as before. As for TV? I don't really care what they will use to sell the game. I will say if I see one piece of marketing from Celtic saying it is an old firm game I will hand my st back. green jhedi

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@ Joeshmo1888

There will always be a Rangers and there will always be a Celtic. Therefore there will always be an Old Firm imo.

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GRD I don't know where you were educated but go check what liquidation means. Sevco aren't even a recognised team by UEFA I know the truth hurts especially for an Orc like yourself but face it the war is over the rebels have won. Gandalf the green

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The fact my post about Petrov turned in to this shows the mind set of those who have commented.

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@11 GRD: When you use the term old firm on this site you will be pulled for it, that's why this thread developed along this line. green jhedi

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@ green jhedi

Answer the question then are you going to do what you said you'd do and give up your season ticket? Celtic have talked about the Old Firm numerous times so batter in. Big man. {Ed007's Note - Celtic’s official website described/advertised the last Old Firm game as “the last-ever derby”. CFC haven't really said much about Rangers' demise and the new club starting up, why would they even need to? I am actually very glad, and proud, by the way CFC have kept a dignified silence when it would have been so easy to use our power to put obstacles in the new club's way.
It's the hierarchy of The Rangers/Sevco that have been more vocal about CFC, Charles Green couldn't guddle through an interview without mentioning CFC.}

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26 Jul 2013 00:28:42
I understand what you are saying Ed007, but my point to GJ was that Celtic have made reference to Rangers and the Old Firm on many occassions since then. The official twitter did so in the lead up to, during and after the u17 cup final. GJ made a very bold (and imo ridiculous) statement about handing back his season ticket if Celtic do so, which they have, so he will be handing it back tomorrow I would imagine.

At the end of the day the majority of Britain and indeed the world have accepted that Rangers are still Rangers and are very much alive and well. Sadly, there will always be an element who will not.

I am very much looking forward to the next Old Firm match, as I certainly have missed them. {Ed007's Note - Jim Traynor, Charles Green, Richard Gough, Stevie Naismith and The Rangers/Sevco official Twatter account might disagree with you. Failed CVA = liquidation= No more Rangers. You can't just walk away from that level of debt. Sorry mate, but just like Lisbon 1967, this one isn't going away any time soon. Even Rangers fans accepted it would wipe out your history until it actually happened, then they changed their tune (sadly not literally, it's still the same bigoted, hate filled songs that are sung). I will admit I am looking forward to the next time we meet, it's always an adventure and interesting when you play a team for the first time, I remember Gretna getting promoted (what happened when they ran out of money????) Why is your new wee club any different from them?}

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No need to call the guy an Orc. He's entitled to an opinion. HH joe

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My point is Rangers are still here. We have a team on the park at Ibrox and are still in our colours with our badge. Conflicting reports regarding the status of the club and everyone will never agree. But while there is a Rangers I will be there supporting them, and while there is a Celtic and a Rangers there will be an Old Firm. As I say it is all my opinion and I take your points on board Ed. PS I liked the 67 point very good lol.

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25 Jul 2013 12:33:41
Hooper off skies to Norwich feel sorry for Harry now though just read an article on tv and he
Said celtic are one of the biggest teams in the world so respect for that and good luck hooper. Kevin Doyle though? Not good enough, I'd say stokes is better than him, we don't need him. Just cause he's Irish doesn't mean he will be good doesn't exactly bring experience with his age playing bottom ended EPL experience no way champions league quality. Really hope we don't sign him.

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Doyle would bring something to Celtic but it would not be goals.He has never been prolific. green jhedi

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25 Jul 2013 11:28:48
Norwich now 1/7 to sign Gary Hooper.

Seems Norwich have matched Q.P.R's bid and he is heading for the Premiership now.

Don't imagine Harry the crook will be too pleased after talking up the impending signing of Hooper to Q.P.R for the last 2 days, saying he hopes he will be the Championship top goalscorer next season.


Source:- Sly Spurts

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Hoops always wanted the premiership. he would have stayed and went pre contract in Jan if Norwich had not come back in. green jhedi

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25 Jul 2013 11:23:43
Need to try and sign Alfred Finnbogason as a replacement for Hooper. Was in cracking form for Heerenveen last season with 28 goals in 33 games.

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25 Jul 2013 13:21:47
Ditto. The power of positive thinking

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25 Jul 2013 11:00:30
I think I'm one of the few Celtic fans that has quite high hopes for Kevin Doyle if he comes. Am I?

Danjam

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Don't care who come's, when he pull's on that shirt he will have my support.
Tambhoy

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I think Kevin Doyle would be a terrific signing for us, especially given how we play.

That said, he isn't a replacement for Hooper (and his goals), so either Balde is that man, or we need a Hosiner, A Vossen, or a (dream signing) Rhodes.

I would definitely like to see KD in the hoops, and if we had someone who could convert alongside him I think we'd do well.

The bottom line is, if we do have a goalscorer alongside Doyle, he'll bring a lot of goals to the team, in terms of assists.

The Patient

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25 Jul 2013 10:49:48
Hooper to have medical at Norwich, I would like to wish him well but the grass is not always greener.
Mrs M.

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25 Jul 2013 10:46:32
Norwich agree fee with Celtic for hopper, looks as if its going to be premiership football for hoops. Grheengo.

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25 Jul 2013 10:44:47
Morning Bhoys and ghirls, On the radio here this morning that kevin doyle deal hopefully being pushed through today.? Um, I know there is a lot of guys on here saying no way but I think he will be brilliant if he does still has a lot to give and prove he still has it + poss door back into the irish team for him if successful which i'm sure he will go all out for, well if he does I for one will welcome him, come on u Bhoys in green, Goreybhoy {Ed001's Note - I was talking about this with Ed007 the other day, Lennon loves Doyle and has had him lined up as a replacement for Hooper from the start of the contract issues. Doyle was literally just waiting on a call to go up for a medical one January, the year Wolves got relegated from the Prem. So it is no shock that he is expected to join now, and at least he guarantees effort!}

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I for one would be more than happy if we sign Doyle, he has always been linked with your Man Utd's and Arsenal's until around two yrs ago where it seems he lost a bit of passion for the game (who blames him with the Wolves farce).

I think he has the experience we some times lack in the dressing room and will be a good pro to have around to help develop the like of Watt and Atajic.

He will prove a lot of doubters wrong I am more than sure of that.

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25 Jul 2013 08:37:13
Hearing Manchester United have released Macheda he would be worth a punt if we would give the lad game time to develop as well as a more established striker who would hit the ground running

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25 Jul 2013 08:00:24
Kevin Doyle to replace Hooper ffs PL have you lost your head. This would be a bigger failure than 2003/04 if we don't sign decent .
John88

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2003/2004 wasnt a bad season we won the league with a record amount of goals. We finised 3rd in our champions league group and we put Barcelona out of the uefa cup not to shabby imo. Davie c

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25 Jul 2013 01:18:10
Just wondering peoples thoughts here I might sound stupid but thinking last week lenny said even if hooper stayed we would have still went for another striker so basically saying we would have spent money on a new striker and that's without the 5/5.5m we r getting for hooper so now he has left and we will get that money why can't the board use the hooper money and the money they planned 2 use if he stayed and pay7/8m on a top class striker?. Dunno if am being daft lol just a thought

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25 Jul 2013 10:15:38
Gunniebhoy what about this scenario.
Use the £5m we got for Hooper and offer Blackburn this, PLUS Watt on a season loan.
Blackburn get a replacement and we not only get a perfect fit for Hooper but Watt gets good experience in English Championship. Timalloy

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Great shout timalloy mate would be chuffed wae that. A personally hink a season away from the pressure ae celtic would do watt the world of good

GunnieBhoy

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25 Jul 2013 00:23:51
i know with hoops leaving we need to bolster the strikeforce but I definetly would like to see balde given the chance to prove himself alongside whoever we bring in. Thought the 15 min I saw on tuesday night showed glimpses of a raw potential big powerhouse of a striker

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Totally agree mate!

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